Mr. McCLOY. When you are going out to the garage, on which side is it?
Mrs. PAINE. It is on my right.
Mr. McCLOY. On your right. Coming out from the garage to the kitchen it
is on your left?
Mrs. PAINE. That is what he said.
Mr. McCLOY. You said it just the opposite, I think.
Representative FORD. I thought I asked the question and she responded
in the reverse.
Mr. McCLOY. Maybe.
Representative FORD. And it surprised me a little bit. The record may
show two different responses there.
Mr. JENNER. Could we recover that now?
Mrs. PAINE. The switch is on the west doorjamb of that door between the
two rooms.
Mr. JENNER. Perhaps that may help, Mrs. Paine. When you are in the
kitchen about to enter the garage, the doorway from the kitchen to the
garage, and you are going to enter from the kitchen into the garage,
where is the switch with respect to whether it is on your right side or
your left side?
Mrs. PAINE. Just coming into the garage it is on my right side.
Mr. JENNER. That is leaving your kitchen entering the garage it is on
your right side. Now when you are in the garage and you are about to
enter the kitchen, the switch then is on your left? Is that correct?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Representative FORD. That clarifies it. May I now ask in your
observations of either Marina or Lee, were they the type that were
conscious of turning light switches on or off? Was this an automatic
reaction? Were they careless about it? What was their trait if you have
any observation?
Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall any other time that the garage light had
been left on, and I would say certainly I saw enough of Marina to be
able to state what I thought would be a trait, and she would normally
turn off a light when she was done, in the room.
Representative FORD. She had the normal reaction of turning a light off
if she left a room?
Mrs. PAINE. Her own room. Now you see most of the rooms--if she was
the last one in the room she would turn it off; yes; going to bed or
something like that she certainly would turn it off.
Mr. JENNER. Of course if she was going to bed she would turn the light
off. But when she was leaving the room, was it her tendency to turn off
the light?
Mrs. PAINE. Well, the garage light is the only room in my house you
leave not to come back to right away. The whole house is active all the
time until bedtime. It is hard to answer.
Mr. JENNER. So the lights are on?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Representative FORD. Would you make any observation about Lee's
tendencies or traits in this regard?
Mrs. PAINE. I can't say I have observation as to his tendencies.
Mr. JENNER. It was your habit, however, as far as you are concerned
with respect to the light in the garage to turn it off when you left
the garage?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. What were your habits with respect to closing the main
garage door, that is the door opening onto the street?
Mrs. PAINE. That was always closed except to open just to take out the
trash can.
Mr. JENNER. And though it is shown in one of the photographs as open.
Mrs. PAINE. That was done for the purpose of the photograph by the FBI.
Mr. JENNER. So that normally your garage door is down?
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. Was it down when you arrived?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it was.
Mr. JENNER. At your home when you were surprised to see Lee Oswald?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it certainly was.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have recollection whether anytime that evening of
hearing the garage door being raised or seeing the garage door up?
Mrs. PAINE. I have no such recollection.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have a recollection that it was down at all times?
Mrs. PAINE. I wasn't in the garage.
Mr. JENNER. Well, you entered the garage did you not that evening?
Mrs. PAINE. Except then; yes, at 9 or so. It was certainly down.
Mr. JENNER. It was down then?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You say your home is small and you can hear even the front
door opening. Does the raising of the garage door cause some clatter?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it does.
Mr. JENNER. And had the garage door been raised, even though you were
giving attention to your children, would you have heard it?
Mrs. PAINE. If it was raised slow and carefully; no, I would not have
heard it.
Mr. JENNER. But if it were raised normally?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You would have heard it. And it is your recollection that
at no time that evening were you conscious of that garage door having
been raised.
Mrs. PAINE. That is correct.
Mr. JENNER. You had reached the point at which you said you entered the
garage to, did you say, lacquer some blocks which you had prepared?
Mrs. PAINE. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. What did you notice in the garage when you entered it to
lacquer those blocks?
Mrs. PAINE. The garage was as I always found it, and I went and got the
lacquer from the workbench on the west side of the garage and painted
the blocks on top of the deepfreeze. My motions were in the interior
portion.
Mr. JENNER. That is in the area of the garage near the kitchen entrance?
Mrs. PAINE. Right.
Mr. JENNER. How long were you in the garage on that occasion?
Mrs. PAINE. About a half an hour.
Mr. JENNER. Did you leave the garage light on while you worked in the
garage?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You are definitely conscious, however, of the fact that
when you entered the garage the light was on?
Mrs. PAINE. I am certain of that. I thought it quite sloppy to have
left it on.
Mr. JENNER. Did you make any inquiry of Marina or of Lee Oswald as to
the light having been left on?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. No comment at all?
Mrs. PAINE. It is my recollection that by the time I was ready to go to
the garage to work, say 9 o'clock, Lee had already retired.
Mr. JENNER. Now we would like to know, tell us how you were definitely
conscious that he had retired by that time?
Mrs. PAINE. He was in the bedroom. Traffic between the bedroom where he
was and the bathroom crosses in front of the doorway, the front of the
room where I was.
Senator COOPER. Did you see him in the bedroom?
Mrs. PAINE. In the bedroom?
Senator COOPER. Yes.