PARIS, January 12, 1786.
SIR,--You were here the last year when the interest due to the French
officers was paid to them, and were sensible of the good effect it had
on the credit and honor of the United States. A second year's interest
is become due. They have presented their demands. There is not money
here to pay them; the pittance, remaining in Mr. Grand's hands, being
only sufficient to pay current expenses three months longer. The
dissatisfaction of these officers is extreme, and their complaints
will produce the worst effect. The Treasury Board has not ordered
their payment, probably because they knew there would not be money.
The amount of their demand is about forty-two thousand livres, and Mr.
Grand has in his hands but twelve thousand. I have thought it my duty,
under this emergency, to ask you whether you could order that sum for
their relief from the funds in Holland? If you can, I am persuaded it
will have the best of effects.
The Imperial ambassador took me apart the other day at Count
d'Aranda's, and observed to me that Dr. Franklin, about eighteen or
twenty months ago, had written to him a letter proposing a treaty
of commerce between the Emperor and the United States: that he had
communicated it to the Emperor, and had answered to Dr. Franklin that
they were ready to enter into arrangements for that purpose, but that
he had since that received no reply from us. I told him I knew well
that Dr. Franklin had written as he mentioned, but that this was the
first mention I had ever heard made of any answer to the letter. That,
on the contrary, we had always supposed it was unanswered, and had
therefore expected the next step from him. He expressed his wonder at
this, and said he would have the copy of his answer sought for and send
it to me. However, he observed that this matter being now understood
between us, the two countries might proceed to make the arrangements.
I told him the delay had been the more unlucky, as our powers were now
near expiring. He said he supposed Congress could have no objections to
renew them, or perhaps to send some person to Brussels to negotiate the
matter there. We remitted all further discussion till he should send
me a copy of his letter. He has not yet done it, and I doubt whether
he has not forgotten the substance of his letter which probably was no
more than an acknowledgment of the receipt of Dr. Franklin's, and a
promise to transmit it to his court. If he had written one proposing
conferences, it could never have got safe to Dr. Franklin. Be this
as it will, he now makes advances, and I pray you to write me your
sentiments immediately as to what is best to be done on our part. I
will endeavor to evade an answer till I can hear from you. I have the
honor to be, with the highest respect and esteem, dear Sir, your most
obedient, and most humble servant.
TO JOHN ADAMS.
PARIS, January 12, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--I had just closed the preceding letter when M. de
Blumendorff, the Imperial Secretary of Legation, called on me with the
answer of Dr. Franklin. It was that of September 28, 1784, which you
remember as well as myself, wherein Count Merci informed us the Emperor
was disposed to enter into commercial arrangements with us, and that
he would give orders to the government of the Austrian Netherlands to
take the necessary measures. I observed to M. de Blumendorff that this
answer showed the next step was to come from them. He acknowledged it,
but said these orders having been for the Netherlands only, they had
waited in expectation of others for comprehending Hungary, Bohemia,
and the Austrian dominions in general, and that they still expect such
instructions. I told him, while they should be expecting them, I would
write to you on the subject, as it was necessary for us to act jointly
in this business. I think they are desirous of treating, and will urge
it. I shall be anxious, therefore, to receive your sentiments on the
subject; and renew the assurances of the esteem with which I am, dear
Sir, your friend and servant.
TO MARQUIS DE LA ROUENE.
PARIS, January 12, 1786.
SIR,--I have been honored with your letter of the 26th of December,
on the subject of the interest due to the foreign officers. An express
instruction of Congress having subjected their moneys in Europe to the
order of their Board of Treasury only, leaves me without the power
of giving the order you desire. However, wishing to do whatever was
possible for those officers, I went to Mr. Grand's to consult him
on the subject. He informed me he had received no orders to make the
payment, and, moreover, that there was no money, had he received an
order. I have therefore written to Mr. Adams at London, to know whether
there is any money in Holland subject to his order, from which this
sum could be supplied. But, in truth, I have no expectations from that
quarter, and only tried it because there was a possibility of aid from
thence. I wrote, however, to Congress, praying their immediate and
effectual interposition. From this, I hope better effects. But it will
be three months at least before their order can be received. So soon
as they shall be known to me, I shall certainly make it my duty to
communicate them to you. And have the honor to be, with much respect,
Sir, your most obedient humble servant.
TO THE GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA.
PARIS, January 24, 1786.
SIR,--I have been honored with your Excellency's two letters of
September 10th and that of October 14th, 1785. The former were brought
me by Mr. Houdon, who is returned with the necessary moulds and
measures for General Washington's statue. I fear the expenses of his
journey have been considerably increased by the unlucky accident of
his tools, materials, clothes, &c., not arriving at Havre in time to
go with him to America, so that he had to supply himself there. The
money which you were so kind as to send by Captain Littlepage for the
purpose of this statue, he found himself obliged to deposit in New
York, to satisfy a demand made on him there. This was a debt which he
owed to Mr. Jay. He assures me that in a settlement with his guardian,
the latter took credit for this debt, so as to be answerable to Mr. Jay
for it, and of course to the State, now that Mr. Jay is paid with the
State's money. I mention this circumstance that your Excellency may be
enabled to take the earliest measures for recovering this money, and
indemnifying the State. Mr. Littlepage, to satisfy me, had obtained
from the Marquis de La Fayette his engagement to stand bound as Mr.
Littlepage's security for the payment of this money. But knowing the
punctuality and responsibility of his guardian, I did not suppose a
security necessary. Besides, if a loss was to be incurred, I know too
well the sentiments of the State of Virginia towards the Marquis de
La Fayette to suppose they would be willing to throw the loss on him.
I therefore acted as I thought your Excellency and the Council would
have directed me to act, could you have been consulted. I waited on the
Marquis, and in his presence cancelled his name from the obligation
which had been given me, leaving only that of Mr. Littlepage. I have
now the honor to enclose you one of those instruments, duplicates of
which had been given me by Littlepage. The first of the Marquis's Busts
will be finished next month. I shall present that one to the city of
Paris, because the delay has been noticed by some. I hope to be able
to send another to Virginia in the course of the summer. These are to
cost three thousand livres each. The agreement for the arms has been
at length concluded by Mr. Barclay. He was so much better acquainted
with this business than the Marquis Fayette or myself, that we left it
altogether to him. We were sensible that they might have been gotten
cheaper, but not so good. However, I suppose he has given you the
details of his proceedings, so as to render them unnecessary from me.
It will be eight months before they will be ready. The cause of this,
too, Mr. Barclay told me he would explain to you. It is principally
to insure their goodness. The bills remitted to pay for them have been
honored, and the money is lodged in Mr. Grand's hands, who was willing
to allow a small interest for it.
An improvement is made here in the construction of the musket, which
may be worthy of attention. It consists in making every part of them
so exactly alike, that every part of any one may be used for the same
part of any other musket made by the same hand. The government here
has examined and approved the method, and is establishing a large
manufactory for the purpose. As yet the inventor has only completed
the lock of the musket on this plan. He will proceed immediately to
have the barrel, stock and their parts executed in the same way. I
visited the workman. He presented the parts of fifty locks, taken to
pieces and arranged in compartments. I put several together myself,
taking the pieces at hazard as they came to hand, and found them fit
interchangeably in the most perfect manner. The tools by which he
effects this have, at the same time, so abridged the labor, that he
thinks he shall be able to furnish the musket two livres cheaper than
the King's price. But it will be two or three years before he will be
able to furnish any quantity. I have duly received the propositions of
Messrs. Ross, Pleasants, &c., for furnishing tobacco to the Farmers
General; but Mr. Morris had, in the meantime, obtained the contract.
I have been fully sensible of the baneful influence on the commerce
of France and America, which this double monopoly will have. I have
struck at its root here, and spared no pains to have the form itself
demolished, but it has been in vain. The persons interested in it are
too powerful to be opposed, even by the interest of the whole country.
I mention this matter in confidence, as a knowledge of it might injure
any further endeavors to attain the same object.
Everything is quiet here, and will certainly remain so another year.
Mr. Barclay left Paris a few days ago, and will be absent from France
for some time. I shall spare no endeavors to fulfil the several objects
with which he was charged, in the best manner I can.
I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the highest respect, your
Excellency's most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO MR. RITTENHOUSE.
PARIS, January 25, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--Your favor of September 28th, came to hand a few days ago.
I thank you for the details on the subject of the southern and western
lines. There remains thereon, one article, however, which I will still
beg you to inform me of, viz., how far is the western boundary beyond
the meridian of Pittsburg? This information is necessary to enable me
to trace that boundary in my map. I shall be much gratified, also, with
a communication of your observations on the curiosities of the western
country. It will not be difficult to induce me to give up the theory
of the growth of shells, without their being the nidus of animals. It
is only an idea, and not an opinion with me. In the Notes with which
I troubled you, I had observed that there were three opinions as to
the origin of these shells. 1. That they have been deposited, even in
the highest mountains, by an universal deluge. 2. That they, with all
the calcareous stones and earths, are animal remains. 3. That they
grow or shoot as crystals do. I find that I could swallow the last
opinion, sooner than either of the others; but I have not yet swallowed
it. Another opinion might have been added, that some throe of nature
has forced up parts which had been the bed of the ocean. But have we
any better proof of such an effort of nature, than of her shooting
a lapidific juice into the form of a shell? No such convulsion has
taken place in our time, nor within the annals of history; nor is the
distance greater between the shooting of the lapidific juice into the
form of a crystal or a diamond, which we see, and into the form of a
shell, which we do not see, than between the forcing volcanic matter a
little above the surface, where it is in fusion, which we see, and the
forcing the bed of the sea fifteen thousand feet above the ordinary
surface of the earth, which we do not see. It is not possible to
believe any of these hypotheses; and, if we lean towards any of them,
it should be only till some other is produced, more analogous to the
known operations of nature. In a letter to Mr. Hopkinson, I mentioned
to him that the Abbé Rochon, who discovered the double refracting
power in some of the natural crystals, had lately made a telescope
with the metal called platina, which, while it is as susceptible of
as perfect a polish as the metal heretofore used for the specula of
telescopes, is insusceptible of rust, as gold and silver are. There is
a person here, who has hit on a new method of engraving. He gives you
an ink of his composition. Write on copper plates anything of which
you would wish to take several copies, and, in an hour, the plate will
be ready to strike them off; so of plans, engravings, &c. This art
will be amusing to individuals, if he should make it known. I send you
herewith the nautical almanacs for 1786, 1787, 1788, 1789, 1790, which
are as late as they are published. You ask, how you may reimburse the
expense of these trifles? I answer, by accepting them; as the procuring
you a gratification, is a higher one to me than money. We have had
nothing curious published lately. I do not know whether you are fond of
chemical reading. There are some things in this science worth reading.
I will send them to you, if you wish it. My daughter is well, and
joins me in respects to Mrs. Rittenhouse and the young ladies. After
asking when we are to have the Lunarium, I will close with assurances
of the sincere regard and esteem, with which I am, dear Sir, your most
obedient humble servant.
TO A. STEWART, ESQ.
PARIS, January 25, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--I have received your favor of the 17th of October, which,
though you have mentioned it as the third you have written me,
is the first that has come to hand. I sincerely thank you for the
communication it contains. Nothing is so grateful to me, at this
distance, as details, both great and small, of what is passing in
my own country. Of the latter, we receive little here, because they
either escape my correspondents, or are thought unworthy of notice.
This, however, is a very mistaken opinion, as every one may observe, by
recollecting, that when he has been long absent from his neighborhood,
the small news of that is the most pleasing, and occupies his first
attention, either when he meets with a person from thence, or returns
thither himself. I still hope, therefore, that the letter, in which
you have been so good as to give me the minute occurrences in the
neighborhood of Monticello, may yet come to hand, and I venture to
rely on the many proofs of friendship I have received from you, for
a continuance of your favors. This will be the more meritorious, as I
have nothing to give you in exchange.
The quiet of Europe, at this moment, furnishes little which can attract
your notice. Nor will that quiet be soon disturbed, at least for the
current year. Perhaps it hangs on the life of the King of Prussia, and
that hangs by a very slender thread. American reputation in Europe is
not such as to be flattering to its citizens. Two circumstances are
particularly objected to us; the non-payment of our debts, and the want
of energy in our government. These discourage a connection with us. I
own it to be my opinion, that good will arise from the destruction of
our credit. I see nothing else which can restrain our disposition to
luxury, and to the change of those manners which alone can preserve
republican government. As it is impossible to prevent credit, the
best way would be to cure its ill effects, by giving an instantaneous
recovery to the creditor. This would be reducing purchases on credit
to purchases for ready money. A man would then see a prison painted on
everything he wished, but had not ready money to pay for.
I fear, from an expression in your letter, that the people of Kentucky
think of separating, not only from Virginia (in which they are right),
but also from the confederacy. I own, I should think this a most
calamitous event, and such a one as every good citizen should set
himself against. Our present federal limits are not too large for good
government, nor will the increase of votes in Congress produce any ill
effect. On the contrary, it will drown the little divisions at present
existing there. Our confederacy must be viewed as the nest, from which
all America, North and South, is to be peopled. We should take care,
too, not to think it for the interest of that great Continent to press
too soon on the Spaniards. Those countries cannot be in better hands.
My fear is, that they are too feeble to hold them till our population
can be sufficiently advanced to gain it from them, piece by piece. The
navigation of the Mississippi we must have. This is all we are, as yet,
ready to receive. I have made acquaintance with a very sensible, candid
gentleman here, who was in South America during the revolt which took
place there, while our Revolution was going on. He says, that those
disturbances (of which we scarcely heard anything) cost, on both sides,
an hundred thousand lives.
I have made a particular acquaintance here, with Monsieur de Buffon,
and have a great desire to give him the best idea I can of our elk.
Perhaps your situation may enable you to aid me in this. You could
not oblige me more than by sending me the horns, skeleton, and skin
of an elk, were it possible to procure them. The most desirable form
of receiving them would be, to have the skin slit from the under jaw
along the belly to the tail, and down the thighs to the knee, to take
the animal out, leaving the legs and hoofs, the bones of the head,
and the horns attached to the skin. By sewing up the belly, &c., and
stuffing the skin, it would present the form of the animal. However,
as an opportunity of doing this is scarcely to be expected, I shall be
glad to receive them detached, packed in a box, and sent to Richmond,
to the care of Dr. Currie. Everything of this kind is precious here.
And to prevent my adding to your trouble, I must close my letter, with
assurances of the esteem and attachment with which I am, dear Sir, your
friend and servant.
TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE TREASURY.
PARIS, January 26, 1786.
GENTLEMEN,--I have been duly honored by the receipt of your letter
of December the 6th, and am to thank you for the communications it
contained on the state of our funds and expectations here. Your idea,
that these communications, occasionally, may be useful to the United
States, is certainly just, as I am frequently obliged to explain our
prospects of paying interest, &c., which I should better do with fuller
information. If you would be so good as to instruct Mr. Grand always to
furnish me with a duplicate of those cash accounts which he furnishes
to you, from time to time, and if you would be so good as to direct
your secretary to send me copies of such letters as you transmit to
Mr. Grand, advising him of the remittances he may expect, from time to
time, I should, thereby, be always informed of the sum of money on hand
here, and the probable expectations of supply. Dr. Franklin, during
his residence here, having been authorized to borrow large sums of
money, the disposal of that money seemed naturally to rest with him.
It was Mr. Grand's practice, therefore, never to pay money, but on
his warrant. On his departure, Mr. Grand sent all money drafts to me,
to authorize their payment. I informed him, that this was in no wise
within my province, that I was unqualified to direct him in it, and,
that were I to presume to meddle, it would be no additional sanction
to him. He refused, however, to pay a shilling without my order. I
have been obliged, therefore, to a nugatory interference, merely to
prevent the affairs of the United States from standing still. I need
not represent to you the impropriety of my continuing to direct Mr.
Grand longer than till we can receive your orders, the mischief which
might ensue from the uncertainty in which this would place you as to
the extent to which you might venture to draw on your funds here, and
the little necessity there is for my interference. Whenever you order
a sum of money into Mr. Grand's hands, nothing will be more natural
than your instructing him how to apply it, so as that he shall observe
your instructions alone. Among these, you would doubtless judge it
necessary to give him one standing instruction, to answer my drafts
for such sums as my office authorizes me to call for. These would be
salary, couriers, postage, and such other articles as circumstances
will require, which cannot be previously defined. These will never
be so considerable as to endanger the honor of your drafts; I shall
certainly exercise in them the greatest caution, and stand responsible
to Congress.
Mr. Grand conceives that he has suffered in your opinion by an
application of two hundred thousand livres, during the last year,
differently from what the office of finance had instructed him. This
was a consequence of his being thought subject to direction here, and
it is but justice to relieve him from blame on that account, and to
show that it ought to fall, if anywhere, on Dr. Franklin, Mr. Adams,
and myself. The case was thus: The moneys here were exhausted, Mr.
Grand was in advance about fifty thousand livres, and the diplomatic
establishments in France, Spain, and Holland, subsisting on his
bounties, which they were subject to see stopped every moment, and
feared a protest on every bill. Other current expenses, too, were
depending on advances from him, and though these were small in their
amount, they sometimes involved great consequences. In this situation,
he received four hundred thousand livres, to be paid to this government
for one year's interest. We thought the honor of the United States
would suffer less by suspending half the payment to this government,
replacing Mr. Grand's advances, and providing a fund for current
expenses. We advised him so to do. I still think it was for the best,
and I believe my colleagues have continued to see the matter in the
same point of view. We may have been biassed by the feelings excited by
our own distressing situation. But certainly, as to Mr. Grand, no blame
belongs to him. We explained this matter in a letter to Congress, at
the time, and justice requires this explanation to you, as I conjecture
that the former one has not come to your knowledge.
The two hundred thousand livres retained, as before mentioned, have
been applied to the purposes described, to the payment of a year's
interest to the French officers (which is about forty-two thousand
livres), and other current expenses, which, doubtless, Mr. Grand has
explained to you. About a week ago, there remained in his hands but
about twelve thousand livres. In this situation, the demands of the
French officers for a second year's interest, were presented. But
Mr. Grand observed there were neither money nor orders for them. The
payment of these gentlemen, the last year, had the happiest effect
imaginable. It procured so many advocates for the credit and honor of
the United States, who were heard in all companies. It corrected the
idea that we were unwilling to pay our debts. I fear that our present
failure towards them will give new birth to new imputations, and a
relapse of credit. Under this fear, I have written to Mr. Adams to know
whether he can have this money supplied from the funds in Holland;
though I have little hope from that quarter, because he had before
informed me, that those funds would be exhausted by the spring of the
present year, and I doubt, too, whether he would venture to order these
payments, without authority from you. I have thought it my duty to
state these matters to you.
I have had the honor of enclosing to Mr. Jay, Commodore Jones's
receipts for one hundred and eighty-one thousand and thirty-nine
livres, one sol and ten deniers, prize money, which (after deducing his
own proportion) he is to remit to you, for the officers and soldiers
who were under his command. I take the liberty of suggesting, whether
the expense and risk of double remittances might not be saved, by
ordering it into the hands of Mr. Grand, immediately, for the purposes
of the treasury in Europe, while you could make provision at home for
the officers and soldiers, whose demands will come in so slowly, as to
leave the use of a great proportion of this money, for a considerable
time, and some of it forever. We could, then, immediately quiet the
French officers.
I have the honor to be, with the most perfect respect and esteem,
Gentlemen, your most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO JOHN JAY.
January 27th, 1786.
SIR,--I had the honor of addressing you by the way of London on the 2d
instant. Since that, yours of December 7th, has come to hand. I have
now the pleasure to inform you that Mr. Barclay having settled, as far
as depended on him, the account of Monsieur de Beaumarchais, left Paris
on the 13th instant, to proceed to Morocco. Business obliged him to go
by the way of L'Orient and Bordeaux, but he told me he should not be
detained more than one day at either place. We may probably allow him
to the last of February to be at Morocco.
The imperial ambassador some days ago observed to me, that about
eighteen months ago Dr. Franklin had written to him a letter proposing
a treaty of commerce between the Emperor and the United States; that he
had communicated it to the Emperor, and had answered to Dr. Franklin,
that they were ready to enter into an agreement for that purpose, but
that he had received no reply from him. I told him I had been informed
by Dr. Franklin of the letter making the proposition, but that this
was the first I had ever heard of an answer expressing their readiness
to enter into negotiations. That on the contrary, we had supposed no
definitive answer had been given; and that, of course, the next move
was on their side. He expressed astonishment at this, and seemed so
conscious of having written such an answer, that he said he would
have it sought for and send it to me for my inspection. However, he
observed that the delay, having proceeded from the expectation of
each party that the other was to make the next advance, and the matter
being understood, the two parties might now proceed to enter into the
necessary arrangements. I told him that Congress had been desirous
of entering into connections of amity and commerce with his Imperial
Majesty; that for this purpose they had commissioned Mr. Adams, Dr.
Franklin and myself, or any two of us, to treat; that reasons of
prudence had obliged them to affix some term to our commissions, and
that two years were the term assigned; that the delay, therefore,
which had happened, was the more unlucky, as these two years would
expire in the ensuing spring. He said he supposed Congress could have
no objection to renew our powers, or perhaps to appoint some person
to treat at Brussels. I told him I was unable to answer that, and we
omitted further communication on the subject till he should send me
his letter written to Dr. Franklin. A few days after his Secretaire,
d'Ambassade called on me with it. It was the letter of September 28,
1784, (transmitted in due time to Congress,) wherein he had informed
Dr. Franklin that the Emperor was disposed to enter into commercial
arrangements with us, and that he would give orders to the government
of the Netherlands to take the necessary measures. I observed to
Monsieur de Blumendorff (the secretary), that this letter showed
we were right in our expectations of their taking the next step. He
seemed sensible of it, said that the quarrel with Holland had engrossed
the attention of government, and that these orders relating to the
Netherlands only, it had been expected that others had been given which
should include Hungary, Bohemia and the Austrian dominions in general,
and that they still expected such orders. I told him that while they
should be attending them, I would write to Mr. Adams in London, my
colleague in this business, in concert with whom I must move in it.
I think they are desirous of treating, and from questions asked me by
Monsieur de Blumendorff, I suspect they have been led to that decision,
either by the resolutions of Congress of April 1784, asking powers
from the States to impose restraints on the commerce of States not
connected with us _by treaty_, or else by an act of the Pennsylvania
Assembly for giving such powers to Congress, which has appeared in
the European papers. In the meantime, I own myself at a loss what to
do. Our instructions are clearly to treat. But these made a part of a
system wise and advantageous, if executed in all its parts, but which
has hitherto failed in its most material branch,--that of connection
with the powers having American territory. Should these continue to
stand aloof, it may be necessary for the United States to enter into
commercial regulations of a defensive nature. These may be embraced by
treaties with the powers having no American territory, and who are most
of them as little commercial as perhaps not to offer advantages which
may countervail these embarrassments. In case of war, indeed, these
treaties will become of value, and even during peace the respectability
of the Emperor, who stands at the head of one of the two parties which
seem at present to divide Europe, was a lustre to those connected
with him--a circumstance not to be absolutely neglected by us under
the actual situation of things. ---- a letter from Mr. Adams on this
subject. Not trusting the posts, however, and obliged to wait private
conveyances, our intercommunication is slow, and in the meanwhile our
time shortening fast. I have the honor to enclose to you a letter from
the Count de Vergennes, in favor of Mr. Dumas. With the services of
this gentleman to the United States, yourself and Dr. Franklin are
better acquainted than I am. Those he has been able to render towards
effecting the late alliance between France and the United Netherlands,
are the probable ground of the present application. The minister for
Geneva has desired me to have enquiries made after the Mr. Gallatin,
named in the within paper. I will pray you to have the necessary
advertisements inserted in the papers, and to be so good as to favor
me with the result. I enclose the Gazettes of France and Leyden to
this date, and have the honor to be, with the most perfect respect and
esteem, Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO DR. FRANKLIN.
PARIS, January 27th, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--I had the honor of writing to you on the 5th of October,
and since that have received yours of the 1st of the same month. We
were highly pleased here with the health you enjoyed on your voyage,
and with the reception you met with at home. This was no more than I
expected. Had I had a vote for the Presidentship, however, I doubt
whether I should not have withheld it from you that you might have
leisure to collect and digest the papers you have written from time to
time, and which the world will expect to be given them. This side of
the globe is in a state of absolute quiet, both political and literary.
Not a sheet, I think, has come out since your departure, which is worth
notice. I do not know whether before that the Abbé Rochon had thought
of using the metal Platina for the specula telescope. Indeed, I believe
the thought is not his originally, but has been carried into execution
before by the Spaniards. It is thought to take as high a polish as
the metallic composition generally used, and is not liable to rust.
Hoffman's method of engraving with ink was, I believe, known to you.
I sent the other day to Pancouche's, by Mr. Hopkinson's desire, to get
the livraisons of the Encyclopedie which had not yet been taken out for
him, and informed Pancouche that the subscription had been made by you.
He sent me word two copies were subscribed for in your name, and at the
same time sent both of them to me. Supposing that the other may be your
own, and that you had not made arrangements for having it sent you, I
received it, and forwarded it in the same box with Mr. Hopkinson's. If
you have no better means of getting them in future, I offer my services
very cheerfully to forward them from time to time. What I have paid
for these (71 livres 10 sous), or may hereafter pay for others, you
can be so good as to replace in the hands of Mr. Hopkinson. If there
should be any other commissions to be executed here for you, I should
take real pleasure in being useful to you. Your friends here are all
well I think, and make you much the subject of their conversation. I
will trouble you to present my esteem to young Mr. Franklin, and add
assurances of the real respect and regard with which I have the honor
to be, dear Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO COLONEL MONROE.
PARIS, January 27, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--I wrote you on the 11th of December, and on the 11th of this
month I received your favor of July 15th, entrusted to Mrs. McCaulay
Graham. I do not know from what place she sent it. The last papers
from America present us a very disagreeable altercation between Mr.
Jay, and a young man from whom he had deserved better things. Mr.
Carmichael will, I fear, too, think himself involved. With him I am
unacquainted personally, but he stands on advantageous grounds in
the opinion of Europe, and most especially in Spain. Every person,
whom I see from thence, speaks of him with great esteem. I mention
this for your private satisfaction, as he seemed to be little known
in Congress. Mr. Jay, however, knows him well, and, notwithstanding
their little broulerie, his candor will do him justice. Dumas is a
great favorite both of Holland and France. You will be sensible of this
from the application which is communicated to Mr. Jay from the Count
de Vergennes. Mr. Van Bukel had solicited for him before I came from
America. This is a delicate matter, the more so as I believe Congress
had set the example by a letter to the King last year. True there is
no comparison between the characters solicited for. The death of Mr.
Hardy was matter of sincere concern to us. He had excellent virtues,
and only one foible, that of being too good-humored. This intelligence
was written to me from London by Colonel Humphreys, who went there in
November last. There being nothing going on here under the commissions,
to which he is Secretary, and some little matter there, he will
probably stay there some while yet, or perhaps divide his time between
that place and this. I send by this packet drawings for the Capitol
and prison at Richmond. They are addressed to the Directors of the
public buildings. If you have a curiosity to see them, open the round
package which goes herewith, only be so good as to do them up again
in the same way, and send them off by the first post. I think they
will be a gratification to yourself and such members as like things
of that kind. You see by my writing to you of American persons and
things, that I have nothing for you from this quarter. Europe enjoys
the most perfect repose, and will do so at least for another year. I
have been in expectation of receiving instructions from you as to your
Encyclopædie. But none being come, I will endeavor to send it to you by
this conveyance, if it can be got to L'Orient in time for the packet.
The re-establishment of these vessels is still doubtful; and till they
be re-established my correspondence will be very irregular. I have only
to add assurances of the sincere esteem with which I am, dear Sir, your
friend and servant.
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P. S. If I should be able to send on your copy of the Encyclopædie,
it will be accompanied by one for Dr. Currie, which I will pray you to
forward to Richmond by land or water as you see best.
TO W. F. DUMAS.
PARIS, February 2, 1786.
SIR,--I was honored some time ago with a letter from you of December
6th, enclosing two for America, which I forwarded by the first
occasion. On the 18th of this month, I received a letter from his
Excellency the Count de Vergennes, expressing the interest which he
takes in your welfare, and recommending you to Congress. This I had
an opportunity of forwarding from hence on the 27th of January, under
cover to Mr. Jay. Yesterday I was gratified with the receipt of your
favor of January 27th, containing a copy of the resolution of Congress
of October 24th, in your favor, and which I wish had been more so. With
respect to the payment of the arrearages, two things are necessary:
first, an order from the Treasury, and secondly, money to comply with
it. Mr. Grand wrote me this morning that he had not now as much left
as to pay a bill of Mr. Carmichael's for 4300 livres just presented. I
shall forward your letter to Mr. Jay the next week, with a request that
the necessary measures may be taken for the payment of your arrearages
and interest. In the meantime, I think you would do well to write a
line for the same purpose to Mr. Jay, or to the Commissioners of the
Treasury. I do not mean that what I have said above should prevent
your drawing in due time for the salary of the current quarter. I
will honor the draught from a private fund with which I can take that
liberty. I thank you for what you say of the notes on Virginia. It
is much more than they deserve. Though the various matters they touch
on would have been beyond the information of any one person whatever
to have treated fully, and infinitely beyond mine, yet had I at the
time of writing them, had anything more in view than the satisfying
a single individual, they should have been more attended to both in
form and matter. Poor as they are, they have been thought worthy
of a surreptitious translation here, with the appearance of which
very soon I have been threatened. This has induced me to yield to a
friendly proposition from the Abbé Morellet, to translate and publish
them himself, submitting the sheets previously to my inspection. As a
translation by so able a hand will lessen the faults of the original,
instead of their being multiplied by a hireling translator. I shall add
to it a map and such other advantages as may prevent the mortification
of my seeing it appear in the injurious form threatened. I shall
with great pleasure send a copy of the original to you by the first
opportunity, praying your acceptance of it.
I have the honor to be with great esteem and respect, Sir, your most
obedient and most humble servant.
TO JOHN ADAMS.
PARIS, February 7, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--I am honored with yours of January the 19th. Mine of January
the 12th, had not, I suppose, at that time got to your hands, as the
receipt of it is unacknowledged. I shall be anxious till I receive your
answer to it.
I was perfectly satisfied before I received your letter, that your
opinion had been misunderstood or misrepresented in the case of the
Chevalier de Mezieres. Your letter, however, will enable me to say so
with authority. It is proper it should be known, that you had not given
the opinion imputed to you, though, as to the main question, it is
become useless; Monsieur de Reyneval having assured me, that what I had
written on that subject had perfectly satisfied the Count de Vergennes
and himself, that this case could never come under the treaty. To
evince, still further, the impropriety of taking up subjects gravely,
on such imperfect information as this court had, I have this moment
received a copy of an act of the Georgia Assembly, placing the subjects
of France, as to real estates, on the footing of natural citizens, and
expressly recognizing the treaty. Would you think anything could be
added, after this, to put this question still further out of doors?
A gentleman of Georgia assured me, General Oglethorpe did not own a
foot of land in the State. I do not know whether there has been any
American determination on the question, whether American citizens and
British subjects, born before the Revolution, can be aliens to one
another? I know there is an opinion of Lord Coke's, in Colvin's case,
that if England and Scotland should, in the course of descent, pass to
separate Kings, those born under the same sovereign during the union,
would remain natural subjects and not aliens. Common sense urges some
considerations against this. Natural subjects owe allegiance; but
we owe none. Aliens are the subjects of a foreign power; we are not
subjects of a foreign power. The King, by the treaty, acknowledges our
independence; how, then, can we remain natural subjects? The King's
power is, by the constitution, competent to the making peace, war and
treaties. He had, therefore, authority to relinquish our allegiance by
treaty. But if an act of parliament had been necessary, the parliament
passed an act to confirm the treaty. So that it appears to me, that in
this question, fictions of law alone are opposed to sound sense.
I am in hopes Congress will send a minister to Lisbon. I know no
country with which we are likely to cultivate a more useful commerce.
I have pressed this in my private letters.
It is difficult to learn anything certain here, about the French and
English treaty. Yet, in general, little is expected to be done between
them. I am glad to hear that the Delegates of Virginia had made the
vote relative to English commerce, though they afterwards repealed
it. I hope they will come to it again. When my last letters came away,
they were engaged in passing the revisal of their laws, with some small
alterations. The bearer of this, Mr. Lyons is a sensible, worthy young
physician, son of one of our judges, and on his return to Virginia.
Remember me with affection to Mrs. and Miss Adams, Colonels Smith and
Humphreys, and be assured of the esteem with which I am, dear Sir, your
friend and servant.
TO JAMES MADISON.
PARIS, February 8, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--My last letters were of the 1st and 20th of September, and
the 28th of October. Yours, unacknowledged, are of August the 20th,
October the 3d, and November the 15th. I take this, the first safe
opportunity, of enclosing to you the bills of lading for your books,
and two others for your namesake of Williamsburg, and for the attorney,
which I will pray you to forward. I thank you for the communication of
the remonstrance against the assessment. Mazzei, who is now in Holland,
promised me to have it published in the Leyden gazette. It will do
us great honor. I wish it may be as much approved by our Assembly, as
by the wisest part of Europe. I have heard, with great pleasure, that
our Assembly have come to the resolution of giving the regulation of
their commerce to the federal head. I will venture to assert, that
there is not one of its opposers, who, placed on this ground, would
not see the wisdom of this measure. The politics of Europe render it
indispensably necessary that, with respect to everything external, we
be one nation only, firmly hooped together. Interior government is what
each State should keep to itself. If it were seen in Europe that all
our States could be brought to concur in what the Virginia Assembly has
done, it would produce a total revolution in their opinion of us, and
respect for us. And it should ever be held in mind, that insult and
war are the consequences of a want of respectability in the national
character. As long as the States exercise, separately, those acts of
power which respect foreign nations, so long will there continue to
be irregularities committed by some one or other of them, which will
constantly keep us on an ill footing with foreign nations.
I thank you for your information as to my Notes. The copies I have
remaining shall be sent over, to be given to some of my friends,
and to select subjects in the College. I have been unfortunate here
with this trifle. I gave out a few copies only, and to confidential
persons, writing in every copy a restraint against its publication.
Among others, I gave a copy to a Mr. Williams; he died. I immediately
took every precaution I could, to recover this copy. But, by some means
or other, a bookseller had got hold of it. He employed a hireling
translator, and is about publishing it in the most injurious form
possible. I am now at a loss what to do as to England. Everything,
good or bad, is thought worth publishing there; and I apprehend a
translation back from the French, and a publication here. I rather
believe it will be most eligible to let the original come out in that
country; but am not yet decided.
I have purchased little for you in the book way, since I sent the
catalogue of my former purchases. I wish, first, to have your answer to
that, and your information, what parts of these purchases went out of
your plan. You can easily say, buy more of this kind, less of that, &c.
My wish is to conform myself to yours. I can get for you the original
Paris edition of the Encyclopedie, in thirty-five volumes, folio,
for six hundred and twenty livres; a good edition, in thirty-nine
volumes, 4to, for three hundred and eighty livres; and a good one, in
thirty-nine volumes, 8vo, for two hundred and eighty livres. The new
one will be superior in far the greater number of articles; but not in
all. And the possession of the ancient one has, moreover, the advantage
of supplying present use. I have bought one for myself, but wait your
orders as to you. I remember your purchase of a watch in Philadelphia.
If it should not have proved good, you can probably sell it. In that
case, I can get for you, here, one made as perfect as human art can
make it, for about twenty-four louis. I have had such a one made by
the best and most faithful hand in Paris. It has a second hand, but no
repeating, no day of the month, nor other useless thing to impede and
injure the movements which are necessary. For twelve louis more, you
can have in the same cover, but on the back, and absolutely unconnected
with the movements of the watch, a pedometer, which shall render you an
exact account of the distances you walk. Your pleasure hereon shall be
awaited.
Houdon has returned. He called on me, the other day, to remonstrate
against the inscription proposed for General Washington's statue. He
says it is too long to be put on the pedestal. I told him I was not at
liberty to permit any alteration, but I would represent his objection
to a friend, who could judge of its validity, and whether a change
could be authorized. This has been the subject of conversations here,
and various devices and inscriptions have been suggested. The one which
has appeared best to me may be translated as follows: "Behold, Reader,
the form of George Washington. For his worth, ask History; that will
tell it, when this stone shall have yielded to the decays of time. His
country erects this monument: Houdon makes it." This for one side.
On the second, represent the evacuation of Boston, with the motto,
"Hostibus primum fugatis." On the third, the capture of the Hessians,
with "Hostibus iterum devictis." On the fourth, the surrender of York,
with "Hostibus ultimum debellatis." This is seizing the three most
brilliant actions of his military life. By giving out, here, a wish
of receiving mottos for this statue, we might have thousands offered,
from which still better might be chosen. The artist made the same
objection, of length, to the inscription for the bust of the Marquis
de La Fayette. An alteration of that might come in time still, if an
alteration was wished. However, I am not certain that it is desirable
in either case. The State of Georgia has given twenty thousand acres
of land to the Count d'Estaing. This gift is considered here as very
honorable to him, and it has gratified him much. I am persuaded, that
a gift of lands by the State of Virginia to the Marquis de La Fayette
would give a good opinion here of our character, and would reflect
honor on the Marquis. Nor, am I sure that the day will not come when it
might be an useful asylum to him. The time of life at which he visited
America was too well adapted to receive good and lasting impressions to
permit him ever to accommodate himself to the principles of monarchical
government; and it will need all his own prudence, and that of his
friends, to make this country a safe residence for him. How glorious,
how comfortable in reflection, will it be, to have prepared a refuge
for him in case of a reverse. In the meantime, he could settle it with
tenants from the freest part of this country, Bretaigne. I have never
suggested the smallest idea of this kind to him; because the execution
of it should convey the first notice. If the State has not a right to
give him lands with their own officers, they could buy up, at cheap
prices, the shares of others. I am not certain, however, whether in
the public or private opinion, a similar gift to Count Rochambeau
could be dispensed with. If the State could give to both, it would
be better; but, in any event, I think they should to the Marquis.
Count Rochambeau, too, has really deserved more attention than he has
received. Why not set up his bust, that of Gates, Greene, Franklin,
in your new capitol? Apropos of the capitol. Do, my dear friend, exert
yourself to get the plan, begun on, set aside, and that adopted, which
was drawn here. It was taken from a model which has been the admiration
of sixteen centuries; which has been the object of as many pilgrimages
as the tomb of Mahomet; which will give unrivalled honor to our State,
and furnish a model whereon to form the taste of our young men. It
will cost much less, too, than the one begun; because it does not
cover one-half of the area. Ask, if you please, a sight of my letter of
January the 26th, to Messrs. Buchanan and Hay, which will spare me the
repeating its substance here.
Everything is quiet in Europe. I recollect but one new invention in
the arts, which is worth mentioning. It is a mixture of the arts of
engraving and printing, rendering both cheaper. Write or draw anything
on a plate of brass, with the ink of the inventor, and, in half
an hour, he gives you engraved copies of it, so perfectly like the
original, that they could not be suspected to be copies. His types for
printing a whole page are all in one solid piece. An author, therefore,
only prints a few copies of his work, from time to time, as they
are called for. This saves the loss of printing more copies than may
possibly be sold, and prevents an edition from being ever exhausted.
I am, with a lively esteem, dear Sir, your sincere friend and servant.
TO MONSIEUR HILLIARD D'AUBERTEUIL.
PARIS, February 20, 1786.
SIR,--I have been honored with your letter, and the books which
accompanied it, for which I return you my hearty thanks. America cannot
but be flattered with the choice of the subject, on which you are
at present employing your pen. The memory of the American Revolution
will be immortal, and will immortalize those who record it. The reward
is encouraging, and will justify all those pains, which a rigorous
investigation of facts will render necessary. Many important facts,
which preceded the commencement of hostilities, took place in England.
These may mostly be obtained from good publications in that country.
Some took place in this country. They will be probably hidden from
the present age. But America is the field where the greatest mass
of important events were transacted, and where alone they can now
be collected. I, therefore, much applaud your idea of going to that
country, for the verification of the facts you mean to record. Every
man there can tell you more than any man here, who has not been there;
and the very ground itself will give you new insight into some of
the most interesting transactions. If I can be of service to you, in
promoting your object there, I offer myself freely to your use. I shall
be flattered by the honor of your visit here, at any time. I am seldom
from home before noon; but if any later hour should suit you better, I
will take care to be at home, at any hour and day you will be pleased
to indicate.
I have the honor to be, with great respect, Sir, your most obedient
humble servant.
TO DR. BANCROFT.
PARIS, February 26, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--I wrote you on the 21st instant, on the subject of Mr.
Paradise, which I hope you have received.
By the death of Mr. Williams, a copy of my Notes on Virginia got into
the hands of a bookseller, who was about publishing a very abominable
translation of them, when the Abbé Morellet heard of it, and diverted
him from it by undertaking to translate it for him. They will thus
appear in French in spite of my precautions. The Abbé engaged me
to make a map, which I wish to have engraved in London. It is on a
single sheet, twenty-three inches square, and very closely written. It
comprehends from Albemarle Sound to Lake Erie, and from Philadelphia to
the mouth of the great Kanawha, containing Virginia and Pennsylvania,
a great part of Maryland, and a part of North Carolina. It is taken
from Suell, Hutchins, and Fry and Jefferson. I wish the favor of you
to make two propositions for me, and to inform me of the result. 1.
To know from one of the best engravers how much he will ask for the
plate and engraving, and in how short a time after he received the
original can he furnish the plate, done in the best manner; for the
time is material, as the work is in the press. 2. To know of Faden,
or any other map merchant, for how much he will undertake to furnish
me 1,800 copies, on my sending the map to him, and in what time can he
furnish them. On this alternative, I am to have nothing to do with the
engraver, or any person but the undertaker. I am of opinion, he may
furnish them to me for nothing, and fully indemnify himself by the sale
of the maps. Though it is on a scale of only an inch to twenty miles,
it is as particular as the four-sheet maps from which it is taken, and
I answer for the exactness of the reduction. I have supplied some new
places, though the first object which induced me to undertake it was
to make a map for my book. I soon extended my view to the making as
good a map of those counties as my materials would admit; and I have no
doubt but that in the States of Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Virginia,
600 copies can be sold for a dollar apiece. I shall finish it in about
a fortnight, except the divisions in the counties of Virginia, which
I cannot do at all till I can get Henry's map of Virginia. This I must
trouble you to procure for me, and send immediately by the diligence;
and also give me information on the premises as soon as possible.
You will perceive that time will press. I hope the circumstances of
this affair will plead my pardon for the trouble I am giving you.
The expense of procuring and sending the map shall be replaced, and
an infinitude of thanks attend you. Sir, your most obedient humble
servant.
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P. S. I do not propose that my name shall appear on the map, because it
will belong to its original authors, and because I do not wish to place
myself at the bar of the public.
TO THE COUNT DE VERGENNES.
PARIS, February 28, 1786.
SIR,--Circumstances of public duty calling me suddenly to London, I
take the liberty of mentioning it to your Excellency, and of asking
a few minutes' audience of you, at as early a day and hour as will be
convenient to you, and that you will be so good as to indicate them to
me. I would wish to leave Paris about Friday or Saturday, and suppose
that my stay in London will be of about three weeks. I shall be happy
to be the bearer of any commands your Excellency may have for that
place, and will faithfully execute them. I cannot omit mentioning,
how pleasing it would be to me to be enabled, before my departure, to
convey to the American prisoners at St. Pol de Leon such mitigation of
their fate as may be thought admissible.
I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the highest respect and
esteem, your Excellency's most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO THE HONORABLE J. JAY.
PARIS, March 5, 1786.
SIR,--The several commissions to which Congress were pleased to appoint
Colonel Humphreys Secretary of Legation, being shortly to expire,
and a French packet offering him a convenient passage in the month
of April, he proposes to avail himself of that occasion of returning
to his own country, and of then presenting his respects and thanks to
Congress, as a member of the several commissions with which his office
was connected. I think it my duty to bear testimony to his ready, able,
and faithful discharge of all its duties; and I beg leave, through
you, to present this testimony to Congress, and to assure them that his
talents and disposition are such as they may repose themselves on with
security, should they think to avail our country of them on any future
occasion. I have the honor to be, with the highest respect and esteem,
Sir, yours, &c.
TO JOHN JAY.
LONDON, March 12, 1786.
SIR,--The date of a letter from London will doubtless be as unexpected
to you as it was unforeseen by myself a few days ago. On the 27th of
last month, Colonel Smith arrived in Paris with a letter from Mr.
Adams, informing me that there was at this place a minister from
Tripoli, having general powers to enter into treaties on behalf of
his State, and with whom it was possible we might do something under
our commission to that power; and that he gave reason to believe he
could also make arrangements with us for Tunis. He further added that
the minister of Portugal here had received ultimate instructions from
his court, and that probably that treaty might be concluded in the
space of three weeks were we all on the spot together. He, therefore,
pressed me to come over immediately. The first of these objects had
some weight on my mind, because, as we had sent no person to Tripoli or
Tunis, I thought if we could meet a minister from them on this ground,
our arrangements would be settled much sooner, and at less expense.
But what principally decided me was the desire of bringing matters to
a conclusion with Portugal before the term of our commissions should
expire, or any new turn in the negotiations of France and England
should abate their willingness to fix a connection with us. A third
motive had also its weight. I hoped that my attendance here, and the
necessity of shortening it, might be made use of to force a decisive
answer from this court. I therefore concluded to comply with Mr.
Adams's request. I went immediately to Versailles, and apprised the
Count de Vergennes that circumstances of public duty called me hither
for three or four weeks, arranged with him some matters, and set out
with Colonel Smith for this place, where we arrived last night, which
was as early as the excessive rigor of the weather admitted. I saw Mr.
Adams immediately, and again to day. He informs me that the minister
of Portugal was taken ill five or six days ago, has been very much
so, but is now somewhat better. It would be very mortifying, indeed,
should this accident, with the shortness of the term to which I limit
my stay here, defeat what was the principal object of my journey, and
that, without which, I should hardly have undertaken it. With respect
to this country, I had no doubt but that every consideration had been
urged by Mr. Adams which was proper to be urged. Nothing remains undone
in this way. But we shall avail ourselves of my journey here, as if
made on purpose, just before the expiration of our commission, to form
our report to Congress on the execution of that commission, which
report they may be given to know, cannot be formed without decisive
information of the ultimate determination of their court. There is no
doubt what that determination will be; but it will be useful to have
it; as it may put an end to all further expectations on our side the
water, and show that the time is come for doing whatever is to be done
by us for counteracting the unjust and greedy designs of this country.
We shall have the honor, before I leave this place, to inform you of
the result of the several matters which have brought me to it.
A day or two before my departure from Paris, I received your letter of
January --. The question therein proposed, "How far France considers
herself as bound to insist on the delivery of the posts," would
infallibly produce another, How far we consider ourselves as guarantees
of their American possessions, and bound to enter into any future war
in which these may be attacked? The words of the treaty of alliance
seem to be without ambiguity on either head, yet I should be afraid to
commit Congress by answering without authority. I will endeavor, on
my return, to sound the opinion of the minister, if possible without
exposing myself to the other question. Should anything forcible
be meditated on these posts, it would possibly be thought prudent,
previously, to ask the good offices of France to obtain their delivery.
In this case, they would probably say, we must first execute the treaty
on our part by repealing all acts which have contravened it. Now this
measure, if there be any candor in the court of London, would suffice
to obtain a delivery of the posts from them without the mediation of
any third power. However, if this mediation should be finally needed,
I see no reason to doubt our obtaining it, and still less to question
its omnipotent influence on the British court.
I have the honor to be, with the highest respect and esteem, Sir, your
most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO RICHARD HENRY LEE.
LONDON, April 22, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--In your letter of October the 29th, you desired me to send
you one of the new lamps. I tried at every probable place in Paris,
and could not get a tolerable one. I have been glad of it since I came
here, as I find them much better made here. I now deliver one, with
this letter, into the hands of Mr. Fulwar Skipwith, a merchant from
Virginia, settled here, who promises to send it to you, with one for
Mr. C. Thomson. Be pleased to accept, this from me. It is now found
that they may be used with almost any oil.
I expect to leave this place in about three days. Our public letters,
joint and separate, will inform you what has been done, and what
could not be done here. With respect to a commercial treaty with
this country, be assured that this government not only has it not in
contemplation at present to make any, but that they do not conceive
that any circumstances will arise which shall render it expedient for
them to have any political connection with us. They think we shall be
glad of their commerce on their own terms. There is no party in our
favor here, either in power or out of power. Even the opposition concur
with the ministry and the nation in this. I can scarcely consider as
a party the Marquis of Lansdowne, and a half dozen characters about
him, such as Dr. Price, &c., who are impressed with the utility of a
friendly connection with us. The former does not venture this sentiment
in parliament, and the latter are not in situations to be heard. The
Marquis of Lansdowne spoke to me affectionately of your brother, Doctor
Lee, and desired his respects to him, which I beg leave to communicate
through you. Were he to come into the ministry (of which there is not
the most distant prospect), he must adopt the King's system, or go
out again, as he did before, for daring to depart from it. When we
see, that through all the changes of ministry which have taken place
during the present reign, there has never been a change of system
with respect to America, we cannot reasonably doubt, that this is
the system of the King himself. His obstinacy of character we know;
his hostility we have known, and it is embittered by ill success. If
ever this nation, during his life, enter into arrangements with us,
it must be in consequence of events of which they do not at present
see a possibility. The object of the present ministry is to buoy up
the nation with flattering calculations of their present prosperity,
and to make them believe they are better without us than with us. This
they seriously believe; for what is it men cannot be made to believe!
I dined the other day in a company of the ministerial party. A General
Clark, a Scotchman and ministerialist, sat next to me. He introduced
the subject of American affairs, and in the course of the conversation
told me that were America to petition Parliament to be again received
on their former footing, the petition would be very generally rejected.
He was serious in this, and I think it was the sentiment of the
company, and is the sentiment perhaps of the nation. In this they are
wise, but for a foolish reason. They think they lost more by suffering
us to participate of their commercial privileges, at home and abroad,
than they lose by our political severance. The true reason, however,
why such an application should be rejected is, that in a very short
time, we should oblige them to add another hundred millions to their
debt in unsuccessful attempts to retain the subjection offered to them.
They are at present in a frenzy, and will not be recovered from it till
they shall have leaped the precipice they are now so boldly advancing
to. Writing from England, I write you nothing but English news. The
continent at present furnishes nothing interesting. I shall hope the
favor of your letters at times. The proceedings and views of Congress,
and of the Assemblies, the opinions and dispositions of our people in
general, which, in governments like ours, must be the foundation of
measures, will always be interesting to me; as will whatever respects
your own health and happiness, being with great esteem, dear Sir, your
most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO CHARLES THOMSON.
LONDON, April 22, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--In one of your former letters, you expressed a wish to have
one of the newly-invented lamps. I find them made here much better than
at Paris, and take the liberty of asking your acceptance of one, which
will accompany this letter. It is now found that any tolerable oil may
be used in them. The spermaceti oil is best, of the cheap kinds.
I could write you volumes on the improvements which I find made, and
making here, in the arts. One deserves particular notice, because it
is simple, great, and likely to have extensive consequences. It is
the application of steam, as an agent for working grist mills. I have
visited the one lately made here. It was, at that time, turning eight
pair of stones. It consumes one hundred bushels of coal a day. It is
proposed to put up thirty pair of stones. I do not know whether the
quantity of fuel, is to be increased. I hear you are applying the same
agent in America, to navigate boats, and I have little doubt, but that
it will be applied generally to machines, so as to supersede the use of
water ponds, and of course to lay open all the streams for navigation.
We know that steam is one of the most powerful engines we can employ;
and in America, fuel is abundant. I find no new publication here worth
sending to you. I shall set out for Paris within three or four days.
Our public letters will inform you of our proceedings here.
I am, with sincere esteem, dear Sir, your friend and servant.
TO JOHN JAY.
LONDON, April 23, 1786.
SIR,--In my letter of March the 12th, I had the honor of explaining
to you the motives which had brought me to this place. A joint letter
from Mr. Adams and myself, sent by the last packet, informed you of the
result of our conferences with the Tripoline minister. The conferences
with the minister of Portugal have been drawn to a greater length
than I expected. However, everything is now agreed, and the treaty
will be ready for signature the day after to-morrow. I shall set out
for Paris the same day. With this country nothing is done; and that
nothing is intended to be done, on their part, admits not the smallest
doubt. The nation is against any change of measures; the ministers
are against it; some from principle, others from subserviency; and the
King, more than all men, is against it. If we take a retrospect to the
beginning of the present reign, we observe that amidst all the changes
of ministry, no change of measures with respect to America ever took
place; excepting only at the moment of the peace; and the minister of
that moment was immediately removed. Judging of the future by the past,
I do not expect a change of disposition during the present reign, which
bids fair to be a long one, as the King is healthy and temperate. That
he is persevering, we know. If he ever changes his plan, it will be
in consequence of events, which, at present, neither himself nor his
ministers place among those which are probable. Even the opposition
dare not open their lips in favor of a connection with us, so unpopular
would be the topic. It is not that they think our commerce unimportant
to them. I find that the merchants here set sufficient value on it.
But they are sure of keeping it on their own terms. No better proof
can be shown of the security in which the ministers think themselves
on this head, than that they have not thought it worth while to give
us a conference on the subject, though, on my arrival, we exhibited
to them our commission, observed to them that it would expire on the
12th of the next month, and that I had come over on purpose to see if
any arrangements could be made before that time. Of two months which
then remained, six weeks have elapsed without one scrip of a pen, or
one word from a minister, except a vague proposition at an accidental
meeting. We availed ourselves even of that, to make another essay
to extort some sort of declaration from the court. But their silence
is invincible. But of all this, as well as of the proceedings in the
negotiation with Portugal, information will be given you by a joint
letter from Mr. Adams and myself. The moment is certainly arrived, when
the plan of this court being out of all doubt, Congress and the States
may decide what their own measures should be.
The Marquis of Lansdowne spoke of you in very friendly terms, and
desired me to present his respects to you, in the first letter I should
write. He is thoroughly sensible of the folly of the present measures
of this country, as are a few other characters about him. Dr. Price is
among these, and is particularly disturbed at the present prospect. He
acknowledges, however, that all change is desperate; which weighs more,
as he is intimate with Mr. Pitt. This small band of friends, favorable
as it is, does not pretend to say one word in public on our subject.
I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the highest esteem and
respect, Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO JOHN JAY.
LONDON, April 23, 1786.
SIR,--In another letter of this day, I stated to you what had passed
with public characters, since my arrival here. Conversations with
private individuals, I thought it best not to mingle with the contents
of that letter. Yet, as some have taken place which relate to matters
within our instructions, and with persons whose opinions deserve
to have some weight, I will take the liberty of stating them. In a
conversation with an ancient and respectable merchant of this place,
such a view of the true state of the commercial connections of America
and Great Britain, was presented to him, as induced him to acknowledge
they had been mistaken in their opinions, and to ask that Mr. Adams and
myself would permit the chairman of the committee of American merchants
to call on us. He observed that the same person happened to be also
chairman of the committee of the whole body of British merchants; and
that such was the respect paid to his person and office, that we might
consider what came from him, as coming from the committees themselves.
He called on us at an appointed hour. He was a Mr. Duncan Campbell,
formerly much concerned in the American trade. We entered on the
subject of the non-execution of the late treaty of peace, alleged on
both sides. We observed that the refusal to deliver the western posts,
and the withdrawing American property contrary to express stipulation,
having preceded what they considered as breaches on our part, were
to be considered as the causes of our proceedings. The obstructions
thrown by our legislatures in the way of the recovery of their debts,
were insisted on by him. We observed to him, that the great amount
of the debt from America to Great Britain, and the little circulating
coin in the former country, rendered an immediate payment impossible;
that time was necessary; that we had been authorized to enter into
explanatory arrangements on this subject; that we had made overtures
for the purpose, which had not been attended to, and that the States
had, therefore, been obliged to modify the article for themselves. He
acknowledged the impossibility of immediate payment, the propriety of
an explanatory convention, and said that they were disposed to allow
a reasonable time. We mentioned the term of five years, including
the present; but that judgments might be allowed immediately, only
dividing the execution into equal and annual parts, so that the last
should be levied by the close of the year 1790. This seemed to be
quite agreeable to him, and to be as short a term as would be insisted
on by them. Proceeding to the sum to be demanded, we agreed that the
principal, with the interest incurring before and after the war, should
be paid; but, as to that incurring during the war, we differed from
him. He urged its justice with respect to themselves, who had laid
out of the use of their money during that period. This was his only
topic. We opposed to it all those which circumstances, both public and
private, gave rise to. He appeared to feel their weight, but said the
renunciation of this interest was a bitter pill, and such a one as the
merchants here could not swallow. He wished that no declaration should
be made as to this article; but we observed that if we entered into
explanatory declarations of the points unfavorable to us, we should
expect, as a consideration for this, corresponding declarations on the
parts in our favor. In fact, we supposed his view was to leave this
part of the interest to stand on the general expressions of the treaty,
that they might avail themselves, in individual cases, of the favorable
dispositions of debtors or juries. We proceeded to the necessity
of arrangements of our future commerce, were it only as a means of
enabling our country to pay its debts. We suggested that they had
been contracted, while certain modes of remittance had existed here,
which had been an inducement to us to contract these debts. He said
he was not authorized to speak on the subject of the future commerce.
He appeared really and feelingly anxious that arrangements should be
stipulated as to the payment of the old debts; said he would proceed in
that moment to Lord Caermarthen's, and discuss the subject with him,
and that we might expect to hear from him. He took leave, and we have
never since heard from him or any other person on the subject. Congress
will judge how far these conversations should influence their future
proceedings, or those of the States.
I have the honor to be, with the highest respect and esteem, Sir, your
most obedient humble servant.
TO THE COUNT DE VERGENNES.
PARIS, May 3, 1786.
SIR,--After begging leave to present my respects to your Excellency,
on my return to this place, I take the liberty of offering to your
attention some papers, which I found on my arrival here, written by
sundry merchants of L'Orient, and others, some of whom are citizens
of the United States, and all of them concerned in the trade between
the two countries. This has been carried on, by an exchange of the
manufactures and produce of this country, for the produce of that, and
principally for tobacco, which, though, on its arrival here, confined
to a single purchaser, has been received equally from all sellers.
In confidence of a continuance of this practice, the merchants of
both countries were carrying on their commerce of exchange. A late
contract by the Farm has, in a great measure, fixed in a single
mercantile house, the supplies of tobacco wanted for this country. This
arrangement found the established merchants with some tobacco on hand,
some on the seas coming to them, and more still due. By the papers
now enclosed, it seems that there are six thousand four hundred and
eight hogsheads, in the single port of L'Orient. Whether government
may interfere, as to articles furnished by the merchants after they
had notice of the contract before mentioned, must depend on principles
of policy. But those of justice seem to urge, that, for commodities
furnished before such notice, they should be so far protected, as
that they may wind up without loss, the transactions in which the new
arrangement found them actually engaged. Your Excellency is the best
judge, how far it may be consistent with the rules of government,
to interfere for their relief; and with you, therefore, I beg leave
entirely to rest their interests.
Information lately received, relative to the Barbary States, has
suggested, that it might be expedient, and perhaps necessary for us,
to pave the way to arrangements with them, by a previous application
to the Ottoman Porte. Your Excellency's intimate acquaintance with this
subject would render your advice to us equally valuable and desirable.
If you would be pleased to permit me to wait on you, any day or hour
which shall be most convenient to yourself, I should be much gratified
by a little conversation with you on this subject.
I have the honor to be, with great respect, your Excellency's most
obedient, and most humble servant.
TO JOHN PAGE.
PARIS, May 4, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--Your two favors of March the 15th and August the 23d, 1785,
by Monsieur de la Croix, came to hand on the 15th of November. His
return gives me an opportunity of sending you a copy of the nautical
almanacs for 1786, '7, '8, '9. There is no late and interesting
publication here, or I would send it by the same conveyance. With these
almanacs, I pack a copy of some Notes I wrote for Monsieur de Marbois,
in the year 1781, of which I had a few printed here. They were written
in haste, and for his private inspection. A few friends having asked
copies, I found it cheaper to print than to write them. They will offer
nothing new to you, not even as an oblation of my friendship for you,
which is as old almost as we are ourselves. Mazzei brought me your
favor of April the 28th. I thank you much for your communications.
Nothing can be more grateful at such a distance. It is unfortunate that
most people think the occurrences passing daily under their eyes, are
either known to all the world, or not worth being known. They therefore
do not give them place in their letters. I hope you will be so good as
to continue your friendly information. The proceedings of our public
bodies, the progress of the public mind on interesting questions, the
casualties which happen among our private friends, and whatever is
interesting to yourself and family, will always be anxiously received
by me. There is one circumstance in the work you were concerned in,
which has not yet come to my knowledge; to wit, how far westward from
Fort Pitt does the western boundary of Pennsylvania pass, and where
does it strike the Ohio? The proposition you mention from Mr. Anderson,
on the purchase of tobacco, I would have made use of, but that I have
engaged the abuses of the tobacco trade on a more general scale. I
confess their redress is by no means certain; but, till I see all hope
of removing the evil by the roots desperate, I cannot propose to prune
its branches.
I returned but three or four days ago from a two months' trip to
England. I traversed that country much, and own both town and country
fell short of my expectations. Comparing it with this, I found a much
greater proportion of barrens, a soil, in other parts, not naturally
so good as this, not better cultivated, but better manured, and,
therefore, more productive. This proceeds from the practice of long
leases there, and short ones here. The laboring people here are poorer
than in England. They pay about one half their produce in rent; the
English, in general, about a third. The gardening, in that country, is
the article in which it surpasses all the earth. I mean their pleasure
gardening. This, indeed, went far beyond my ideas. The city of London,
though handsomer than Paris, is not so handsome as Philadelphia. Their
architecture is in the most wretched style I ever saw, not meaning to
except America, where it is bad, nor even Virginia, where it is worse
than in any other part of America which I have seen. The mechanical
arts in London are carried to a wonderful perfection. But of these I
need not speak, because of them my countrymen have unfortunately too
many samples before their eyes. I consider the extravagance, which
has seized them, as a more baneful evil than toryism was during the
war. It is the more so, as the example is set by the best and most
amiable characters among us. Would a missionary appear, who would make
frugality the basis of his religious system, and go through the land,
preaching it up as the only road to salvation, I would join his school,
though not generally disposed to seek my religion out of the dictates
of my own reason, and feelings of my own heart. These things have been
more deeply impressed on my mind, by what I have heard and seen in
England. That nation hate us, their ministers hate us, and their King,
more than all other men. They have the impudence to avow this, though
they acknowledge our trade important to them. But they think, we cannot
prevent our countrymen from bringing that into their laps. A conviction
of this determines them to make no terms of commerce with us. They say,
they will pocket our carrying trade as well as their own. Our overtures
of commercial arrangements have been treated with a derision, which
shows their firm persuasion, that we shall never unite to suppress
their commerce, or even to impede it. I think their hostility towards
us is much more deeply rooted at present, than during the war. In the
arts, the most striking thing I saw there, new, was the application
of the principle of the steam-engine to grist mills. I saw eight pair
of stones which are worked by steam, and there are to be set up thirty
pair in the same house. A hundred bushels of coal a day, are consumed
at present. I do not know in what proportion the consumption will be
increased by the additional gear.
Be so good as to present my respects to Mrs. Page and your family,
to W. Lewis, F. Willis, and their families, and to accept yourself
assurances of the sincere regard with which I am, dear Sir, your
affectionate friend and servant.
TO WILLIAM CARMICHAEL.
PARIS, May 5, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--A visit of two months to England has been the cause of
your not hearing from me during that period. Your letters of February
3d, to Mr. Adams and myself, and of February 4th, to me, had come to
hand before my departure. While I was in London, Mr. Adams received
the letters giving information of Mr. Lambe's arrival in Algiers. In
London, we had conferences with a Tripoline ambassador, now at that
court, named Abdrahaman. He asked us thirty thousand guineas for a
peace with his court, and as much for Tunis, for which he said he could
answer. What we were authorized to offer, being to this but as a drop
to a bucket, our conferences were repeated, only for the purpose of
obtaining information. If the demands of Algiers and Morocco should be
in proportion to this, according to their superior power, it is easy to
foresee that the United States will not buy a peace with money. What
principally led me to England was, the information that the Chevalier
del Pinto, Portuguese minister at that court, had received full powers
to treat with us. I accordingly went there, and, in the course of six
weeks, we arranged a commercial treaty between our two countries. His
powers were only to negotiate, not to sign. And as I could not wait,
Mr. Adams and myself signed, and the Chevalier del Pinto expected daily
the arrival of powers to do the same. The footing on which each has
placed the other, is that of the most favored nation. We wished much
to have had some privileges in their American possessions; but this was
not to be effected. The right to import flour into Portugal, though not
conceded by the treaty, we are not without hopes of obtaining.
My journey furnished us occasion to renew our overtures to the court of
London; which it was the more important to do, as our powers to that
court were to expire on the 12th of this month. These overtures were
not attended to, and our commission expiring, we made our final report
to Congress; and I suppose this the last offer of friendship which
will ever be made on our part. The treaty of peace being unexecuted on
either part, in important points, each will now take their own measures
for obtaining execution. I think the King, ministers, and nation are
more bitterly hostile to us at present, than at any period of the late
war. A like disposition on our part has been rising for some time. In
what events these things will end, we cannot foresee. Our countrymen
are eager in their passions and enterprises, and not disposed to
calculate their interests against these. Our enemies (for such they
are, in fact) have for twelve years past followed but one uniform rule,
that of doing exactly the contrary of what reason points out. Having,
early during our contest, observed this in the British conduct, I
governed myself by it in all prognostications of their measures; and
I can say, with truth, it never failed me but in the circumstance of
their making peace with us. I have no letters from America of later
date than the new year. Mr. Adams had, to the beginning of February.
I am in hopes our letters will give a new spur to the proposition, for
investing Congress with the regulation of our commerce.
This will be handed you by a Baron Waltersdorf, a Danish gentleman,
whom, if you did not already know, I should take the liberty of
recommending to you. You were so kind as to write me that you would
forward me a particular map, which has not come to hand. I beg you to
be assured of the respect and esteem with which I have the honor to be,
dear Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO MR. DUMAS.
PARIS, May 6, 1786.
SIR,--Having been absent in England, for some time past, your favors
of February the 27th, March the 28th, and April the 11th, have not been
acknowledged as soon as they should have been. I am obliged to you, for
assisting to make me known to the Rhingrave de Salm and the Marquis de
la Coste, whose reputations render an acquaintance with them desirable.
I have not yet seen either, but expect that honor from the Rhingrave
very soon. Your letters to Mr. Jay and Mr. Van Berkel, received in my
absence, will be forwarded by a gentleman who leaves this place for New
York, within a few days. I sent the treaty with Prussia, by a gentleman
who sailed from Havre, the 11th of November. The arrival of that vessel
in America is not yet known here. Though the time is not long enough
to produce despair, it is sufficiently so to give inquietude lest it
should be lost. This would be a cause of much concern to me; I beg the
favor of you to mention this circumstance to the Baron de Thulemeyer,
as an apology for his not hearing from us. The last advices from
America bring us nothing interesting. A principal object of my journey
to London was to enter into commercial arrangements with Portugal.
This has been done almost in the precise terms of those of Prussia. The
English are still our enemies. The spirit existing there, and rising in
America, has a very lowering aspect. To what events it may give birth,
I cannot foresee. We are young and can survive them; but their rotten
machine must crush under the trial. The animosities of sovereigns are
temporary, and may be allayed; but those which seize the whole body of
a people, and of a people, too, who dictate their own measures, produce
calamities of long duration. I shall not wonder to see the scenes of
ancient Rome and Carthage renewed in our day; and if not pursued to the
same issue, it may be because the republic of modern powers will not
permit the extinction of any one of its members. Peace and friendship
with all mankind is our wisest policy; and I wish we may be permitted
to pursue it. But the temper and folly of our enemies may not leave
this in our choice. I am happy in our prospect of friendship with the
most estimable powers of Europe, and particularly with those of the
confederacy, of which yours is. That your present crisis may have a
happy issue, is the prayer and wish of him who has the honor to be,
with great respect and esteem, Sir, your most obedient humble servant.
TO WILLIAM DRAYTON.
PARIS, May 6, 1786.
SIR,--Your favor of November the 23d came duly to hand. A call to
England, soon after its receipt, has prevented my acknowledging it so
soon as I should have done. I am very sensible of the honor done me
by the South Carolina society for promoting and improving agriculture
and other rural concerns, when they were pleased to elect me to be of
their body; and I beg leave, through you, Sir, to convey to them my
grateful thanks for this favor. They will find in me, indeed, but a
very unprofitable servant. At present, particularly, my situation is
unfavorable to the desire I feel, of promoting their views. However,
I shall certainly avail myself of every occasion which shall occur,
of doing so. Perhaps I may render some service, by forwarding to the
society such new objects of culture, as may be likely to succeed in the
soil and climate of South Carolina. In an infant country, as ours is,
these experiments are important. We are probably far from possessing,
as yet, all the articles of culture for which nature has fitted our
country. To find out these, will require abundance of unsuccessful
experiments. But if, in a multitude of these, we make one useful
acquisition, it repays our trouble. Perhaps it is the peculiar duty of
associated bodies, to undertake these experiments. Under this sense
of the views of the society, and with so little opportunity of being
otherwise useful to them, I shall be attentive to procure for them the
seeds of such plants, as they will be so good as to point out to me, or
as shall occur to myself as worthy their notice. I send at present, by
Mr. McQueen, some seeds of a grass, found very useful in the southern
parts of Europe, and particularly, and almost solely cultivated in
Malta. It is called by the names of Sulla, and Spanish St. Foin, and
is the Hedysarum coronarium of Linnæus. It is usually sown early in
autumn. I shall receive a supply of fresher seed, this fall, which I
will also do myself the honor of forwarding to you. I expect, in the
same season, from the south of France, some acorns of the cork oak,
which I propose for your society, as I am persuaded they will succeed
with you. I observed it to grow in England, without shelter; not well,
indeed, but so as to give hopes that it would do well with you. I
shall consider myself as always honored by the commands of the society,
whenever they shall find it convenient to make use of me, and beg you
to be assured, personally, of the sentiments of respect and esteem with
which I have the honor to be, Sir, your most obedient, and most humble
servant.
TO W. T. FRANKLIN.
PARIS, May 7, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--On my return from a two months' visit to England, I
found here your favor of January the 18th. This contains the latest
intelligence I have from America. Your effects not being then arrived
gives me anxiety for them, as I think they went in a vessel which
sailed from Havre the 11th of November. In this vessel, went also the
two Mr. Fitzhughs of Virginia, with the Prussian treaty, our papers
relative to the Barbary States, with the despatches for Congress,
and letters which I had been writing to other persons in America
for six weeks preceding their departure. I am obliged to you for
the information as to Dr. Franklin's health, in which I feel a great
interest. I concur in opinion with you, that in the present factious
division of your State, an angel from heaven could do no good. I have
been sorry, therefore, from the beginning, to see such time as Dr.
Franklin's wasted on so hopeless a business. You have formed a just
opinion of Monroe. He is a man whose soul might be turned wrong side
outwards, without discovering a blemish to the world. I wish with
all my heart, Congress may call you into the diplomatic line, as that
seems to have attracted your own desires. It is not one in which you
can do anything more than pass the present hour agreeably, without any
prospect to future provision. Perhaps, the arrangements with Portugal,
by adding to the number of those appointments, may give Congress
an opportunity of doing justice to your own, and to Dr. Franklin's
services. If my wishes could aid you, you have them sincerely. My
late return to this place scarcely enables me to give you any of its
news. I have not yet called on M. La Veillard, or seen any of your
acquaintances. The marriage of the ambassador of Sweden with Miss
Neckar, you have heard of. Houdon is about taking a wife also. His bust
of the General has arrived, and meets the approbation of those who know
the original. Europe enjoys a perfect calm, at present. Perhaps it may
be disturbed by the death of the King of Prussia, which is constantly
expected. As yet, we have no information from the Barbary States, which
may enable us to prognosticate the success of our endeavors to effect
a peace in that quarter. Present me respectfully and affectionately to
Dr. Franklin, and accept assurances of the esteem with which I am, dear
Sir, your friend and servant.
TO ELBRIDGE GERRY.
PARIS, May 7, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--My last to you, was of the 11th of October. Soon after that,
your favor of the 12th September came to hand. My acknowledgment of
this is made later than it should have been, by my trip to England.
Your long silence I ascribe to a more pleasing cause, that of devoting
your spare time to one more capable of filling it with happiness, and
to whom, as well as to yourself, I wish all those precious blessings
which this change of condition is calculated to give you.
My public letters to Mr. Jay will have apprised you of my journey
to England, and of its motives; and the joint letters of Mr. Adams
and myself, of its effects. With respect to Portugal, it produced
arrangements; with respect to England and Barbary, only information.
I am quite at a loss what you will do with England. To leave her in
possession of our posts, seems inadmissible; and yet to take them,
brings on a state of things for which we seem not to be in readiness.
Perhaps a total suppression of her trade, or an exclusion of her
vessels from the carriage of our produce, may have some effect; but
I believe not very great. Their passions are too deeply and too
universally engaged in opposition to us. The ministry have found
means to persuade the nation, that they are richer than they were
while we participated of their commercial privileges. We should try
to turn our trade into other channels. I am in hopes this country will
endeavor to give it more encouragement. But what will you do with the
piratical States? Buy a peace at their enormous price; force one; or
abandon the carriage into the Mediterranean to other powers? All these
measures are disagreeable. The decision rests with you. The Emperor is
now pressing a treaty with us. In a commercial view, I doubt whether
it is desirable; but in a political one, I believe it is. He is now
undoubtedly the second power in Europe, and on the death of the King of
Prussia, he becomes the first character. An alliance with him will give
us respectability in Europe, which we have occasion for. Besides, he
will be at the head of the second grand confederacy of Europe, and may,
at any time, serve us with the powers constituting that. I am pressed
on so many hands to recommend Dumas to the patronage of Congress,
that I cannot avoid it. Everybody speaks well of him, and his zeal
in our cause. Anything done for him will gratify this court, and the
patriotic party in Holland, as well as some distinguished individuals.
I am induced, from my own feelings, to recommend Colonel Humphreys to
your care. He is sensible, prudent, and honest, and may be very firmly
relied on, in any office which requires these talents. I pray you to
accept assurances of the sincere esteem and respect with which I am,
dear Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant.
TO MR. OTTO.
PARIS, May 7, 1786.
SIR,--My absence in England, for some time past, has prevented my
acknowledging so soon as I should have done, the receipt of your favor
of January 15. In that you speak of having written other letters, but
no other has ever come to my hands. I thank you for the intelligence
that contained, several articles of which never came to me through any
other channel. On this side of the water everything is quiet. But the
death of the King of Prussia is daily expected, and I think it very
possible this event may bring on a disturbance of the peace of Europe,
as the elastic spirit of the Emperor will feel itself restrained by
one pressure the less. This possibility excepted, Europe never had a
more pacific appearance. Among the Dutch, the republican party seems
to be quite triumphant. The misunderstanding between Spain and Naples
cannot produce any immediate consequences; and that between France and
Portugal, we are told, is amicably settled. It is said that the Elector
of Bavaria is in an ill state of health. His death, with that of the
King of Prussia, would hazard the tranquillity of Europe. I have not
heard from the Chevalier de La Luzerne since my return. Count Adhemer
is again in England. A change in the ministry here is more talked of
and expected than at any time since my coming to this place. It is
said the Baron de Breteuil will go out; that M. de Calonnes will be
transferred to this place, and a Monsieur Maillan succeed him. But the
public know too little and talk too much of these things to command our
belief. The marriage of the Swedish ambassador with the daughter of Mr.
Neckar, you have known long ago. The Cardinal de Rohan and Cagliotho
remain where they did, in the Bastile; nor does their affairs seem
as yet to draw towards a conclusion. It has been a curious matter,
in which the circumstances of intrigue and detail have busied all
the tongues, the public liberty none. I have been laboring with the
ministry to get the trade between this country and the United States
put on a better footing, by admitting a free importation and sale of
our produce, assuring them that we should take their manufactures at
whatever extent they would enable us to pay for them. The importation
of our whale oil is, by the successful endeavors of M. de La Fayette,
put on a good footing for this year. Mine, for emancipating the tobacco
trade, have been less successful. I still continue to stir, however,
this and all other articles. I think myself happy in the prospect of a
correspondence with you, and am with sincere respect and esteem, Sir,
your most obedient humble servant.
TO COLONEL HUMPHREYS.
PARIS, May 7, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--My stay in London having been considerably longer than I had
expected, I did not arrive in this place till the last day of April.
I found here your kind letter of the 4th of that month, acknowledging,
much more than they deserved, my little attentions to you. Their only
merit was their being faithful testimonies of a sincere regard for
you. The obligations have, in fact, been on my side, and I shall ever
consider it as such. I sincerely wish that on your arrival in America,
your own preference may be gratified by an appointment on that side
of the water, to which your inclinations lead you. I have received
the books and papers you mention, and will undertake to have finished
what you left undone of the medals, or at least will proceed in it,
till the matter shall be put into better hands. My principal object in
my journey to London was accomplished by arrangements with Portugal.
They are almost exactly in the terms of those with Prussia; except
that the general license to trade is restrained to those places where
any foreign nation is admitted. The Tripoline offered peace for 30,000
guineas for Tripoli, and as many for Tunis. Calculating on this scale,
Morocco should ask 60,000, and Algiers 120,000. England declines all
arrangements with us. They say their commerce is so necessary to us,
that we shall not deny it to ourselves for the sake of the carrying
business, as the only trade they leave us is that with Great Britain
immediately, and that is a losing one. I hope we shall show them we
have sense and spirit enough to suppress that, or at least to exclude
them from any share in the carriage of our commodities. Their spirit
towards us is deeply hostile, and they seem as if they did not fear
a war with us. Should such an event become necessary, we have need
of but only one resolution to place us on sure ground. That is, to
abandon that element where they are strong and we nothing; and to
decide the contest on terra firma, where we have all to gain, and can
lose nothing. The death of the King of Prussia is constantly expected.
Perhaps that event may bring on a general broil. I am too lately
returned here to be able to give you any of the news of the place.
I shall hope to hear from you soon and often, and am, with sincere
esteem, dear Sir, your friend and servant.
TO JAMES ROSS.
PARIS, May 8, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--I have duly received your favor of October the 22d,
and am much gratified by the communications therein made. It has
given me details, which do not enter into the views of my ordinary
correspondents, and which are very entertaining. I experience
great satisfaction at seeing my country proceed to facilitate the
intercommunications of its several parts, by opening rivers, canals and
roads. How much more rational is this disposal of public money, than
that of waging war.
Before the receipt of your letter, Morris's contract for sixty thousand
hogsheads of tobacco was concluded with the Farmers General. I have
been for some time occupied in endeavoring to destroy the root of the
evils, which the tobacco trade encounters in this country, by making
the ministers sensible, that merchants will not bring a commodity to
a market, where but one person is allowed to buy it; and that so long
as that single purchaser is obliged to go to foreign markets for it,
he must pay for it in coin, and not in commodities. These truths have
made their way to the minds of the ministry, insomuch, as to have
delayed the execution of the new lease of the Farms, six months. It is
renewed, however, for three years, but so as not to render impossible
a reformation of this great evil. They are sensible of the evil, but it
is so interwoven with their fiscal system, that they find it hazardous
to disentangle. The temporary distress, too, of the revenue, they are
not prepared to meet. My hopes, therefore, are weak, though not quite
desperate. When they become so, it will remain to look about for the
best palliative this monopoly can bear. My present idea is, that it
will be found in a prohibition to the Farmers General, to purchase
tobacco anywhere but in France. You will perceive by this, that my
object is to strengthen the connection between this country and my
own, in all useful points. I am of opinion that twenty-three thousand
hogsheads of tobacco, the annual consumption of this country, do not
exceed the amount of those commodities which it is more advantageous
to us to buy here than in England, or elsewhere; and such a commerce
would powerfully reinforce the motives for a friendship from this
country towards ours. This friendship we ought to cultivate closely,
considering the present dispositions of England towards us.
I am lately returned from a visit to that country. The spirit of
hostility to us has always existed in the mind of the King, but it
has now extended itself through the whole mass of the people, and the
majority in the public councils. In a country, where the voice of the
people influence so much the measures of administration, and where it
coincides with the private temper of the King, there is no pronouncing
on future events. It is true they have nothing to gain, and much to
lose by a war with us. But interest is not the strongest passion in
the human breast. There are difficult points, too, still unsettled
between us. They have not withdrawn their armies out of our country,
nor given satisfaction for the property they brought off. On our part,
we have not paid our debts, and it will take time to pay them. In
conferences with some distinguished mercantile characters, I found them
sensible of the impossibility of our paying these debts at once, and
that an endeavor to force universal and immediate payment, would render
debts desperate, which are good in themselves. I think we should not
have differed in the term necessary. We differed essentially in the
article of interest. For while the principal, and interest preceding
and subsequent to the war, seem justly due from us, that which accrued
during the war does not. Interest is a compensation for the use of
money. Their money, in our hands, was in the form of lands and negroes.
Tobacco, the produce of these lands and negroes (or as I may call it,
the interest of them), being almost impossible of conveyance to the
markets of consumption, because taken by themselves in its way there,
sold during the war, at five or six shillings the hundred. This did not
pay taxes, and for tools and other plantation charges. A man who should
have attempted to remit to his creditor tobacco, for either principal
or interest, must have remitted it three times before one cargo would
have arrived safe; and this from the depredations of their own nation,
and often of the creditor himself; for some of the merchants entered
deeply into the privateering business. The individuals, who did not,
say they have lost this interest; the debtor replies, that he has not
gained it, and that it is a case, where a loss having been incurred,
every one tries to shift it from himself. The known bias of the human
mind from motives of interest should lessen the confidence of each
party in the justice of their reasoning; but it is difficult to say,
which of them should make the sacrifice, both of reason and interest.
Our conferences were intended as preparatory to some arrangement.
It is uncertain how far we should have been able to accommodate our
opinions. But the absolute aversion of the government to enter into
any arrangement prevented the object from being pursued. Each country
is left to do justice to itself and to the other, according to its own
ideas, as to what is past; and to scramble for the future, as well
as they can; to regulate their commerce by duties and prohibitions,
and perhaps by cannons and mortars; in which event, we must abandon
the ocean, where we are weak, leaving to neutral nations the carriage
of our commodities; and measure with them on land, where they alone
can lose. Farewell, then, all our useful improvements of canals and
roads, reformations of laws, and other rational employments. I really
doubt whether there is temper enough, on either side, to prevent
this issue of our present hatred. Europe is, at this moment, without
the appearance of a cloud. The death of the King of Prussia, daily
expected, may raise one. My paper admonishes me, that after asking
a continuance of your favors, it is time for me to conclude with
assurances of the esteem with which I am, dear Sir, your friend and
servant.
TO T. PLEASANTS.
PARIS, May 8, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--At the time of the receipt of your favor of October the
24th, the contract between the Farmers General and Mr. Morris, for
tobacco, was concluded, and in a course of execution. There was no
room, therefore, to offer the proposals which accompanied your letter.
I was moreover engaged in endeavors to have the monopoly, in the
purchase of this article, in this country, suppressed. My hopes on
that subject are not desperate, but neither are they flattering. I
consider it as the most effectual means of procuring the full value
of our produce, of diverting our demands for manufactures from Great
Britain to this country to a certain amount, and of thus producing some
equilibrium in our commerce, which, at present, lies all in the British
scale. It would cement an union with our friends, and lessen the
torrent of wealth which we are pouring into the laps of our enemies.
For my part, I think that the trade with Great Britain is a ruinous
one to ourselves; and that nothing would be an inducement to tolerate
it, but a free commerce with their West Indies; and that this being
denied to us, we should put a stop to the losing branch. The question
is, whether they are right in their prognostications that we have
neither resolution nor union enough for this. Everything I hear from
my own country, fills me with despair as to their recovery from their
vassalage to Great Britain. Fashion and folly are plunging them deeper
and deeper into distress; and the legislators of the country becoming
debtors also, there seems no hope of applying the only possible remedy,
that of an immediate judgment and execution. We should try whether the
prodigal might not be restrained from taking on credit the gewgaw held
out to him in one hand, by seeing the keys of a prison in the other. Be
pleased to present my respects to Mrs. Pleasants, and to be assured of
the esteem with which I am, dear Sir, your friend and servant.
TO COLONEL MONROE.
PARIS, May 10, 1786.
DEAR SIR,--My last to you was of January the 27th. Since that I have
received yours of January the 19th. Information from other quarters
gives me reason to suspect you have in negotiation a very important
change in your situation. You will carry into its execution all
my wishes for your happiness. I hope it will not detach you from a
settlement in your own country. I had even entertained hopes of your
settling in my neighborhood, but these were determined by your desiring
a plan of a house for Richmond. However reluctantly I relinquish this
prospect, I shall not the less readily obey your commands by sending
you a plan. Having been much engaged since my return from England in
answering letters and despatching other business which had accumulated
during my absence, and being still much engaged, perhaps I may not be
able to send the plan by this conveyance. If I do not send it now,
I will surely by the next conveyance after this. Your Encyclopedie,
containing eighteen livraisons, went off last night for Havre, from
whence it will go in a vessel bound to New York. It will be under the
care of M. La Croix, a passenger, who, if he does not find you in New
York, will carry it to Virginia, and send it to Richmond. Another copy,
in a separate box, goes for Currie. I pay here all charges to New York.
What may occur afterwards, I desire him to ask either of you or Currie,
as either will pay for the other, or to draw on me for them.
My letters to Mr. Jay will have informed you of the objects which
carried me to England; and that the principal one, the treaty with
Portugal, has been accomplished. Though we were unable to procure any
special advantages in that, yet we thought it of consequence to insure
our trade against those particular checks and discouragements which
it has heretofore met with there. The information as to the Barbary
States, which we obtained from Abdrahaman, the Tripoline ambassador,
was also given to Mr. Jay. If it be right, and the scale of proportion
between those nations, which we had settled, be also right, eight times
the sum required by Tripoli will be necessary to accomplish a peace
with the whole, that is to say, about two hundred and forty thousand
guineas. The continuance of this peace will depend on their idea of
our power to enforce it, and on the life of the particular Dey, or
other head of the government, with whom it is contracted. Congress
will, no doubt, weigh these circumstances against the expense, and
probable success of compelling a peace by arms. Count d'Estaing having
communicated to me verbally some information as to an experiment
formerly made by this country, I shall get him to put it into writing,
and I will forward it to Congress, as it may aid them in their choice
of measures. However, which plan is most eligible can only be known
to yourselves, who are on the spot, and have under your view all the
difficulties of both. There is a third measure, that of abandoning the
Mediterranean carriage to other nations.
With respect to England, no arrangements can be taken. The merchants
were certainly disposed to have consented to accommodation as to the
article of debts. I was not certain, when I left England, that they
would relinquish the interest during the war. A letter received since,
from the first character among the American merchants in Scotland,
satisfies me they would have relinquished it to insure the capital
and residue of interest. Would to heaven all the States, therefore,
would settle a uniform plan. To open the courts to them, so that they
might obtain judgments; to divide the executions into so many equal
annual instalments, as that the last might be paid in the year 1790;
to have the payments in actual money; and, to include the capital, and
interest preceding and subsequent to the war, would give satisfaction
to the world, and to the merchants in general. Since it is left for
each nation to pursue their own measures in the execution of the late
treaty, may not Congress with propriety recommend a mode of executing
that article respecting the debts, and send it to each State to be
passed into law. Whether England gives up the posts or not, these debts
must be paid, or our character stained with infamy among all nations
and through all time. As to the satisfaction for slaves carried off,
it is a bagatelle, which, if not made good before the last instalment
becomes due, may be secured out of that.