In the further course of conversation, he recurred to the

subject of the bills in question, and told Mr Jay if an

immediate acceptance of them was insisted on, that he might

accept them payable at Bilboa, but rather seemed to wish that

their acceptance might be delayed till the coming of the

abovementioned person. Mr Jay expatiated on the impression,

which the acceptance of these bills and every other mark of

friendship would make in America at this particular crisis,

and the Count, in a very feeling and warm manner, assured him

that his desire to serve the States increased in consequence

of their distresses. By his whole conversation he endeavored

to show how much he interested himself in the prosperity of

our affairs, more than once desiring Mr Jay not to be

discouraged, for that with time and patience all would go

well, expatiating on the King's character, his religious

observation of, and adherence to his promises, and his own

desire of having Mr Jay's entire confidence. Mr Jay seized

this opportunity of assuring him of his full reliance on the

King's justice and honor, and his particular and entire

confidence in his Excellency, asserting to him that all his

letters to Congress breathed these sentiments. The Count

appeared much pleased with this declaration, and, seeming to

speak without reserve, hinted his hopes that the combined

fleets would soon be in condition to give the law to that of

England in the seas of Europe, repeating that measures would

be taken, on the arrival of the person expected, to provide

for the payment of the bills of exchange, and that other

arrangements would be made with the same person, which would

contribute to relieve, as much as it was in his Majesty's

power, the present distresses of America, of which he

frequently spoke very feelingly in the course of this

conversation.

Mr Jay reminded his Excellency, in a delicate manner, of the

supplies of clothing, &c. &c. which had been promised in a

former conference, and said that if they could be sent in

autumn, they would be essentially useful. The Count assured

him that measures would be taken for this purpose, with the

person so often hinted at in the course of the conference;

that probably these goods would be embarked from Bilboa, as

everything was so dear at Cadiz. He also once more told Mr

Jay, that at all events he might accept the bills presented

by Messrs Joyce, payable at Bilboa, though he appeared to

wish that this measure might be delayed for a fortnight if

possible. The conference ended with compliments and

assurances on the one part and the other, the Count

endeavoring to persuade Mr Jay of his Majesty's desire to

assist the States, and Mr Jay assuring him of his reliance on

his Excellency, and of the good effects which such proofs of

his Majesty's friendship would have in America at the present

juncture.

In this conference not a single nail would drive. Everything was to be

postponed till the arrival of the person intended to succeed M.

Mirales.

On the 11th of July I wrote the Count the following note.

"Mr Jay presents his respectful compliments to his Excellency

the Count de Florida Blanca, and has the honor of informing

him, that Don Carlos Maria Maraci of this place has presented

to him, for acceptance, bills amounting in the whole to one

thousand six hundred and sixtyfive dollars. The Messrs Joyce

consent to having their bills payable at Bilboa, but have

acquainted Mr Jay that the name of the House there, by whom

they are to be paid, should accompany the acceptance of the

bills, it being necessary to their further negotiation.

"_Madrid, July 11th, 1780._"

To this note the following answer was returned.

Translation.

"In answer to the note the Count de Florida Blanca has just

received from Mr Jay, dated yesterday, he has the honor to

acquaint him, that he intends writing to Bilboa on the

subject of the bills in the hands of Messrs Joyce, and which

are to be accepted, so that it will be necessary to wait some

days to fix the House at which the acceptance will be made.

"As to the bills presented by Don Carlos Maraci to the value

of one thousand six hundred and sixtyfive dollars, the Count

recommends to Mr Jay to request, in like manner, a delay of

fifteen days for their acceptance, this time being necessary,

that the Count may have an interview with a person not at

present in Madrid.

"_At the Palace, July 12th, 1780._"

I was obliged to wait with patience, and endeavor to keep the holders

of the bills from returning them, noted for non-acceptance. The Count

went to St Ildefonso; the time limited for the arrival of the person

expected having expired, I wrote the Count three notes on the subject

of the bills, and in one requested his permission for Mr Harrison of

Maryland to remain at Cadiz, from whence he was threatened to be

removed in pursuance of the King's ordinance against Irishmen. To

these I received the following answer, dated the 29th of July.

Translation.

"The Count de Florida Blanca presents his compliments to Mr

Jay, and acquaints him that he has duly received his three

last letters.

"For the satisfaction of Mr Jay, orders shall be given for Mr

Harrison to remain at Cadiz, the general regulations

established by the King notwithstanding.

"On the subject of the acceptance of the bills of exchange,

the Count can only say that he still waits for the person in

question, who has informed him that he was on the point of

setting out on his journey.

"He is moreover very sensible of the attention in

communicating to him the last advices received respecting the

affair of Charleston, and persuades himself that Mr Jay will

always observe the same complaisance.

"_Saturday, July 29th._"

I immediately wrote him a letter of thanks for his civility to Mr

Harrison, and nothing further passed between us till the 11th of

August, when I sent him the following note.

"Mr Jay presents his respectful compliments to his Excellency

the Count de Florida Blanca, and has the honor of informing

him, that since the date of his last, bills to the amount of

six thousand and six hundred dollars have been presented to

him for acceptance. Mr Jay has prevailed on the holders of

these bills to wait six or eight days for his answer, on a

promise that the time for their payment, if accepted, shall

be computed from the day on which they were presented.

"_Madrid, August 11th, 1780._"

To this was written the following answer.

Translation.

"The Count de Florida Blanca has just received Mr Jay's note

of yesterday, on the subject of the new bills, which have

been presented to him. He is mortified not to be able to

return a positive answer today, respecting the acceptance of

said bills, and must repeat, that he still waits for the

person of whom mention has been made in preceding notes.

"_St Ildefonso, August 12th, 1780._"

Mrs Jay's illness, and the death of a child, detaining me at Madrid, I

requested the Count to give me notice when it would be necessary I

should wait upon him, and in the mean time Mr Carmichael went to St

Ildefonso.

Congress will be pleased to remember, that in the conference of July

5th, the Minister, speaking of the person intended to succeed M.

Mirales, said that he spoke English, and that we knew him. I supposed,

that he alluded to one of the Gardoquis, three of whom speak English,

and I was well acquainted with one of them. But as another of them had

been heretofore employed by the Court, it appeared most probable that

he was the person meant. They are brothers and have a strong family

likeness.

On the 10th, Mr Carmichael wrote me, that he had seen the Count, and

was informed by him, that the person so long expected had not yet

arrived, and when he did he would give notice of it. On the 12th he

wrote me that a person had arrived, whom he suspected to be the one so

long expected. It seems that a person much resembling the Gardoqui

family had arrived at the same inn where Mr Carmichael lodged, and was

seen by him.

The holders of the bills becoming extremely uneasy, I wrote the Count

the following reply to his last note.

"Madrid, August 16th, 1780.

"Sir,

"The letter, which your Excellency did me the honor to write

on the 12th instant, was delivered to me yesterday.

"The kind concern you are pleased to express for the delay,

which suspends my receiving a positive answer respecting the

bills, demands my acknowledgments, and is an additional proof

of that generous sensibility, which induced your Excellency

to tell me, that your friendship for America should rise with

her distresses. A sentiment so evincive of magnanimity will

be received by Congress with all the admiration and gratitude

it merits, and will not cease to inspire me with that

confidence in your Excellency, which greatness of mind seldom

fails to excite.

"I ought to mention, that the holders of the bills here begin

to grow impatient, and frequently repeat their applications

to me for acceptance.

"With sentiments of great respect and regard, I have the

honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

No answer.

The next day I received a card from the house of Joyce, informing me

of their having received peremptory orders to return their bills, and

that they could not delay it longer than the next post. Of this I sent

a copy to the Count without any observations.

No answer.

On the 18th of August, I wrote the Count the following letter.

"Madrid, August 18th, 1780.

"Sir,

"I never find myself more disagreeably circumstanced, than

when my duty constrains me to be troublesome to those, whom I

wish to afford only pleasure and satisfaction. Such is my

present situation. Monday next I perceive is to be a critical

day. Other bills besides Messrs Joyce are then to be

re-presented.

"M. Gardoqui of Bilboa writes me, that he has received bills

on me for thirteen thousand three hundred and thirtyfive

dollars, with orders immediately to ship the amount in goods

to America. They will be presented tomorrow, and he expects

an answer by Monday's post. If an immediate acceptance or

refusal should be insisted on by any one of them, a protest

must ensue, and American credit be reduced to the lowest ebb.

What am I to do? If your Excellency should direct me to

accept these bills payable at Bilboa, they will, as before,

demand at what House they are to be paid.

"I must entreat your Excellency to relieve me and my country

from this painful situation, and to pardon the trouble I am

obliged to give you.

"With great respect and esteem, I have the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

"_P. S._ The enclosed contains intelligence from America."

No answer.

Having first visited the holders of the bills, and obtained further

time till Monday next, on the 24th I set out for St Ildefonso. I

arrived the next day, and wrote the Count the following letter.

"St Ildefonso, August 25th, 1780.

"Sir,

"I arrived here this morning, but was prevented from

immediately doing myself the honor of paying my respects to

your Excellency, by fatigue and indisposition.

"In a letter I had the honor of writing to your Excellency on

the 16th instant, I mentioned, that the holders of the bills

began to grow impatient. On the 18th instant, I informed your

Excellency by another letter, that their applications to me

for acceptance had become so pressing, as that I found myself

under the necessity of again requesting your directions.

"I have accepted Messrs Joyce's bills payable at Bilboa,

agreeable to your Excellency's directions on the 5th of July

last, and they have agreed to wait some time for the name of

the House there, which may be employed to pay them. The other

gentlemen were induced to delay requiring of me a decisive

answer until Monday next, on my assurances, that they should

then receive one.

"The inducements and reasons, which urged Congress into this

measure, are known to your Excellency, and it would be no

less unnecessary than improper to recapitulate the

consequences, which must ensue from the success or failure of

it.

"I fear your Excellency thinks I am too solicitous, too

importunate. But when it is considered, that the holders of

these bills are not under my control, and that they require

an answer from me, I flatter myself that the trouble I give

your Excellency on this subject will appear to arise from a

sense of my duty, and not from the impulse of impatience.

"I sincerely congratulate your Excellency on the late

important naval success against the common enemy, and have

the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

No Answer.

The next morning I went to pay my respects to the Minister, but being

told he was sick, I left a card. The French Ambassador, however, and

others, had been with him in the morning, and he rode out as usual in

the afternoon.

Mr Carmichael informed me, that in passing by a wicket-gate of the

King's private gardens, he had seen the person, whom he had before

seen at the inn, walking in them, and that his servant had learned

from a barber of his acquaintance, that he dressed a gentleman who

spoke English, and lodged at M. Del Campo's. He also informed me, that

the French Ambassador had lately received a letter from Count de la

Luzerne, dated the 12th of May; that he was present when it was

opened, that it was in cypher, and that the Ambassador said, he

supposed he was impatient to hear the news; that he afterwards

expressed a desire to see this letter, and that the Ambassador

referred him for it to the Secretary; that the Secretary gave him some

important papers, adding, that he had _mislaid_ the letter. Hence it

seems, as if the Ambassador intended at first to communicate the

letter, but that its contents on being decyphered forbad it.

It appeared to me proper to mention my embarrassments to the French

Ambassador, who had always been friendly, and ask his advice and aid

on the subject. The next day I had a conference with him, and the

following are notes of it.

St Ildefonso, August 27th, 1780.

Mr Jay waited on the Count de Montmorin this morning at nine

o'clock, agreeably to appointment the day before. The former

commenced the conversation by observing, that in his first

conferences with the Minister of Spain, at Aranjues, the

Minister divided the subject into two parts, and spoke

largely on that of the bills drawn on Mr Jay, and on the

treaty proposed to be entered into between Spain and America.

Mr Jay recapitulated the Minister's assurances relative to

the former, and informed the Ambassador, that the result of

this conference was a promise of the Minister to send him

written notes on _both_ points, a few days afterwards. That

with respect to the notes relative to the treaty, Mr Jay had

not received them as yet. That on the other point, he had

received notes, which, as well as his answer, he had shown to

the Ambassador. That on the 5th of July he had another

conference with the Minister at Madrid, in which he had

endeavored to turn the conversation to the several objects of

his business and mission here, but that the Minister

postponed the discussion of them, until a person for whom he

had sent, with a view to succeed M. Mirales, should arrive,

when all the necessary arrangements should be made. He indeed

told Mr Jay, that if the Messrs Joyce were pressing, he might

accept their bills, payable at Bilboa, and throughout the

whole conference, had given Mr Jay warm and repeated

assurances, not only of the King's good faith and friendly

disposition towards America, but of his own personal

attachment to her interest, on both of which, as well as in

his candor and promises, he desired him to place the greatest

reliance.

Mr Jay proceeded further to inform the Ambassador, that being

exceedingly pressed by Messrs Joyce and others, holders of

the bills, for a decisive answer, which they had required to

have on the Monday last past, he had signified the same to

the Minister by three letters, requesting his directions, to

none of which he received any answers. That he had accepted

Messrs Joyce's bills, payable, as directed, by the Minister,

and had prevailed on the other to wait until Monday next.

That on his arrival here on Friday he wrote another letter to

the Minister on the same subject, and the next day called at

his house to pay his respects, but not being able to see him

had left a card; that being thus circumstanced he was under

the necessity of requesting the favor of him to speak to the

Count, and obtain an answer from him.

The Ambassador told Mr Jay, that he ought to ask an audience

of the Minister. To this Mr Jay replied, that he could not

hope to have an answer to this request, as he had not been

able to procure one to the different applications he had

already made. The Ambassador said, that he would willingly

speak to the Minister, but that he feared he should not be

able to enter fully into the subject with him until

Wednesday, both the Minister and himself having their time

employed on objects, which at present and for some time past,

had engrossed much of their attention. He then asked Mr Jay

if he had written to Congress to stop drawing bills on him.

Mr Jay replied, that he could not with propriety give such

information to Congress, after the general and repeated

assurances made him by the Count de Florida Blanca ever since

his arrival here, and particularly the Minister's

declaration, that he should be able to furnish him with

thirty or forty thousand pounds sterling, at the end of the

present or commencement of the next year, and that in the

meantime, other arrangements might be taken to pay such bills

as might become due after that period. He added, that if the

Count had candidly told him that he could not furnish him

with money to pay the bills, he should then immediately have

informed Congress of it, who would have taken of course the

proper measures on the occasion, but that should he now send

a true account of all that had passed between the Count de

Florida Blanca and himself thereon, he could not answer for

the disagreeable effects such intelligence would produce. The

Count seemed to think the Spanish Minister would pay the

bills that had been already presented, and had probably

delayed giving Mr Jay an answer until the arrival of the

person he expected, who he understood was detained by the

necessity of making some arrangements in his family before he

left it.

On this Mr Jay remarked, that this did not accord with the

information the Minister had given him near three weeks

before, that the said person was then about to set out.

The conference ended with a promise of the Count de

Montmorin, that he would endeavor to speak to the Count de

Florida Blanca on the subject, but that he was afraid he

should not be able to do it fully until Wednesday next.

Finding that the Ambassador could not do anything till Wednesday next,

and that the Minister's determined silence left no room to hope much

from him very soon, I despatched letters by express to the holders of

the bills, and requested a little more time. I was apprehensive that

if I should accept them without the Minister's consent, it might

become an objection to his providing for their payment, and

appearances led me to suspect, that any tolerable excuse for such

refusal would have been very grateful.

The French Ambassador did not, as usual, return my visit. I dined with

him, nevertheless; but his behavior, though polite, was dry, and not

cordial and open as before. He mentioned not a syllable of his having

received a letter from Philadelphia. These circumstances increased my

apprehensions that his letter contained some things unpleasant.

On Wednesday afternoon, 30th of August, I waited on the Ambassador, to

know the result of the conversation he had promised to have with the

Minister on our affairs. He did not appear very glad to see me. I

asked him whether he had seen the Minister, and conversed with him on

our affairs. He said he had seen the Minister, but that as Count

d'Estaing was present, he had only some general and cursory

conversation with him, and slipping away from that topic, went on to

observe, that I would do well to write another letter to the Minister,

mentioning the number of letters I had already written, my arrival

here, and my desire of a conference with him. I told the Ambassador,

that while four letters on the subject remained unanswered, it could

not be necessary to write a fifth. That these letters had been written

with great politeness and circumspection; that the last was written

the day of my arrival at St Ildefonso; that I had also gone to the

Minister's house, to pay my respects to him, and on being told he was

sick, had left a card; and that, notwithstanding these marks of

attention and respect, I still continued unanswered and unnoticed. I

observed to him further, that this conduct accorded ill with the

Minister's assurances; that unless I had met with more tenderness from

the holders of the bills, they would have been returned noted for

non-acceptance; that if such an event should at last take place, after

the repeated promises and declarations of the Minister, there would of

necessity be an end to the confidence of America in the Court of

Spain.

He replied, that he hoped things would take a more favorable turn;

that to his knowledge the Minister had been of late much occupied and

perplexed with business; that I ought not to be affected with the

inattention of his conduct; that I should continue to conduct the

business smoothly, having always in view the importance of Spain, and

remembering that we were as yet only rising States, not firmly

established, or generally acknowledged, &c. and that he would by all

means advise me to write the Minister another letter, _praying_ an

audience.

I answered, that the object of my coming to Spain was to make

_propositions_, not _supplications_, and that I should forbear

troubling the Minister with further letters, till he should be more

disposed to attend to them. That I considered America as being, and to

continue independent in _fact_, and that her becoming so in _name_ was

of no further importance than as it concerned the common cause, in the

success of which all the parties were interested; and that I did not

imagine Congress would agree to purchase from Spain the acknowledgment

of an undeniable fact at the price she demanded for it; that I

intended to abide patiently the fate of the bills, and should transmit

to Congress an account of all matters relative to them; that I should

then write the Minister another letter on the subject of the treaty,

and if that should be treated with like neglect, or if I should be

informed that his Catholic Majesty declined going into that measure, I

should then consider my business at an end, and proceed to take the

necessary measures for returning to America; that I knew my

constituents were sincerely desirous of a treaty with Spain, and that

their respect for the House of Bourbon, the desire of France signified

in the Secret Article, and the favorable opinion they had imbibed of

the Spanish nation, were the strongest inducements they had to wish

it; that the policy of multiplying treaties with European nations was

with me questionable, and might be so with others; that, for my own

part, I was inclined to think it the interest of America to rest

content with the treaty with France, and, by avoiding alliances with

other nations, remain free from the influence of their disputes and

politics; that the situation of the United States, in my opinion,

dictated this policy; that I knew it to be their interest, and of

course their disposition, to be at peace with all the world; and that

I knew too it would be in their power, and I hoped in their

inclination, always to defend themselves.

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