"Whenever this period shall arrive, his Majesty may be

assured, that the United States will not remain idle, but

that, impelled by resentments too deep and too just to be

transitory, as well as by unshaken attachment to their

friends, they will persevere with firmness and constancy in

the common cause, and cheerfully unite their efforts with

those of France and Spain, in compelling the common enemy to

accept of reasonable terms of peace. I can, also, with great

confidence, assure your Excellency that the United States

will be happy in every opportunity, which may offer during

the war, of joining their arms to those of Spain, and in

co-operating with them in any expeditions, which

circumstances may render expedient against the Floridas, or

other objects. The Americans would most cheerfully fight by

the side of the Spaniards, and by spilling their blood in the

same cause, and on the same occasion, convince them of their

ardent desire to become their faithful friends and steadfast

allies.

"I cannot prevail upon myself to conclude, without expressing

to your Excellency my apprehension of the anxiety, and

painful concern, with which Congress would receive

intelligence of the failure of their bills, and especially

after the expectations they have been induced to conceive of

the successful issue of their affairs here. What conclusions

the enemy would draw from the inability of Spain to advance

the sum in question, even to men actually in arms against

Great Britain, I forbear to mention, nor would it become me

to point out the several evil consequences flowing from such

an event, to those who enjoy from nature and experience more

discernment than I am blessed with.

"I still flatter myself, that some expedients may be devised

to surmount the present difficulties, and that the harvest of

laurels now ripening for his Majesty in America will not be

permitted to wither for want of watering.

"Influenced by this hope, I shall delay transmitting any

intelligence respecting this matter to Congress, till your

Excellency shall be pleased to communicate to me his

Majesty's further pleasure on the subject.

"I have the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

Your Excellency will doubtless observe, that this answer does not

comprehend all the objections to which the Minister's plan is liable,

such, for instance, as the proposal that the vessels proposed to be

built in America, with the money of America, and to be navigated by

Americans, should sail under _Spanish colors, &c._ I thought it most

prudent to avoid taking notice of these and similar circumstances,

lest objections, which might be ascribed to pride, as well as reason,

might lose their force in that supposition, and, instead of

convincing, serve only to irritate.

Nothing further passed between the Minister and myself except a

message or two respecting each other's health, until the 19th day of

June, when I sent him the following card.

"Mr Jay presents his respectful compliments to his

Excellency, the Count de Florida Blanca, and takes the

liberty of enclosing the copy of a note he has just received,

respecting a bill drawn upon him for three hundred and

thirtythree dollars. From this his Excellency will perceive

the painful situation Mr Jay is in. He forbears making any

reflections on it, being persuaded that his Excellency's

wisdom and sensibility render them unnecessary.

"_Madrid, June 19th, 1780._"

On the 20th instant I received the following answer.

Translation.

"The Count de Florida Blanca will have no difficulty in

paying the bill of three hundred and thirtythree dollars

mentioned in Mr Jay's note of yesterday, both on account of

its small value, and in consequence of what he had the honor

to offer him at their last conference; but he cannot forbear

observing to Mr Jay, that it will be impossible to show the

same complaisance for other bills without consulting the

pleasure of the King.

"The means hitherto proposed not having been considered as

agreeable to Congress, it has become necessary to seek for

others, and Mr Jay will do well to think seriously on this

subject, and communicate to the Count de Florida Blanca

whatever his wisdom and information may suggest to him."

This looked dry, and indicated a degree of irritation, though it held

up the idea of further means.

I replied to it on the 22d of June, as follows.

"Madrid, June 22d, 1780.

"Sir,

"I received the note your Excellency did me the honor to

write on the 20th instant, and I take the earliest

opportunity of expressing my thanks for your Excellency's

permission to accept the bills mentioned in it, which I have

accordingly done.

"Agreeably to your Excellency's recommendation in the first

conference, I have turned my thoughts very seriously to the

objects which were the subjects of it, relative to the bills

drawn upon me; they were two.

"1st. The means of paying these bills.

"2dly. The proposed contract with America for light vessels,

&c.

"With respect to the _first_, it appeared to me, that the

principal difficulty was removed by your Excellency's

informing me, '_that at the end of the present year, it would

be in your power to advance twentyfive, thirty, or forty

thousand pounds sterling_.' Hence I inferred, that as much

time would be taken up in the sale, negotiation, and

transmission of those bills, and as so long a space as six

months was assigned for their payment, after being presented,

that the sums which it would be in your Excellency's power to

advance at the end of the year, would probably be equal to

the amount of the bills which would then become payable; and

that in the mean time such further means might be provided,

as would obviate difficulties with respect to those that

might afterwards become due. When I reflected that I was a

stranger to the resources of Spain, and that your

Excellency's acknowledged abilities comprehended all the

objects and combinations necessary in determining what

supplies they were capable of affording, and the manner and

means most proper for the purpose, it appeared to me in the

light of presumption to hazard to your Excellency any

propositions on the subject.

"2dly. On considering the proposed contract, it became

important to distinguish between the building these vessels

with the money of the United States, or with that of Spain.

The latter was very practicable, and I gave your Excellency

that opinion in my letter of the 9th instant. The former, on

the contrary, appeared to me not to be within the power of

the United States, and candor obliged me to make this known

to your Excellency in the same letter.

"I knew it to be impossible for Congress, consistent with

good faith, to contract; that, notwithstanding their great

want of money, the injuries of a six years' war, and their

being actually invaded, they would repay immediately the

monies lent them, either in ships or otherwise. It is not

uncommon for ancient and opulent nations to find it necessary

to borrow money in time of war, but I believe it very seldom

happens, that they find it convenient to pay those debts till

the return of peace. If this be the case with powerful and

long established nations, more cannot be expected from a

young nation brought forth by oppression, and rising amidst

every species of violence and devastation, which fire, sword,

and malice can furnish for their destruction.

"If attentive only to obtaining payment of these bills, and

thereby relieving my country from the complicated evils which

must result from their being protested, I had entered into

the proposed engagements for immediate repayment, by building

vessels, &c. if I had done this, notwithstanding a full

conviction, that the contract so made could not be fulfilled,

my conduct, however convenient in its immediate consequences,

would have been highly reprehensible. This reflection,

therefore, will I hope convince your Excellency of the purity

of my intentions, and induce you to ascribe my objections to

the contract, to want of ability, and not to want of

inclination in the United States to perform it. No

consideration will ever prevail upon me to practise

deception, and I am happy in a persuasion, that although

truths may sometimes not please, yet that when delivered with

decency and respect, they will never offend either his

Majesty or your Excellency.

"Believe me, Sir, the United States will not be able to pay

their debts during the war, and therefore any plan whatever

calculated on a contrary position must be fruitless. I am

ready to pledge their faith for repaying to his Majesty,

within a reasonable term after the war, and with a reasonable

interest, any sums he may be so kind as to lend them. What

more can I offer? What more can they do? If there be any

services they can do to his Majesty, consistent with their

safety and defence, they are ready and will be happy to

render them. They respect the King and the nation, and at the

very time they are requesting his aid, they are soliciting to

be united to him by bonds of perpetual amity and alliance.

Against his enemies as well as their own, they are now in

arms; and the supplies they ask are not for the purpose of

luxury or aggrandizement, but for the sole and express

purpose of annoying those enemies, and enabling France,

Spain, and themselves, to obtain a peace honorable and

advantageous to each.

"Of his Majesty's kind disposition towards them, they had

received not only professions but proofs. Hence they became

inspired not only with gratitude, but with confidence in his

friendship. Impelled by this confidence, and a particular

concurrence of exigencies already explained to your

Excellency, they drew the bills in question. The issue of

this measure will be highly critical, and followed by a train

of consequences very important and extensive. The single

circumstance of your Excellency having permitted me to accept

the first of these bills, will be considered by our enemies

as an unfortunate omen. By predicting from it further aids,

their ideas of the resources of Spain, and the resistance of

America will naturally be raised, and their hopes of subduing

the one, or reducing the power of the other, will naturally

be diminished. They will impute these aids to a plan of the

House of Bourbon, wisely concerted and firmly persisted in,

to secure themselves and all Europe against the ambition of

Britain, by completing the division of her empire, and they

will cease to flatter themselves, that America thus aided

will become destitute of resources to carry on the war. On

the other hand, America will derive fresh vigor from this

mark of friendship, and their attachment to his Majesty

become proportionably more strong. By mutual good offices,

friendship between nations, as between individuals, is only

to be established; and it is always a happy circumstance when

it subsists between those, whom nature has placed contiguous

to each other. But your Excellency's time is of too great

importance to be engaged by such obvious reflections.

"Permit me, Sir, still to indulge the pleasing expectation of

being enabled to inform Congress, that his Majesty's

magnanimity and friendship have prompted him, though

inconvenient to his own affairs, to secure the credit of

their bills; and I am persuaded that the benevolence of your

Excellency's disposition will be gratified in being

instrumental in a measure, which would make such agreeable

impressions on the hearts and minds of so great a number of

steadfast friends to the Spanish monarchy.

"I have the honor to be, Sir, &c.

JOHN JAY."

As this letter was, among other things, designed to establish the

expectations and encouragement given me by the Minister, as to money,

in the last conference, by obliging him either to deny them against

truth, or admit them, at least, by his silence, I desired Mr

Carmichael to deliver it with his own hands, which he accordingly did.

It still remains unanswered.

Your Excellency will be at no loss to perceive, that this was an

improper season for pushing on the treaty, and that it would not have

been prudent to have given poignancy to the Minister's feelings for

the loss of his frigates, and the trouble of our bills, by disputes

about the Mississippi, &c. &c. I therefore did not remind him of the

notes he had promised, nor indeed say anything at all about the

matter.

About this time I met with a printed copy of an act of the State of

Connecticut, reciting and adopting the resolutions of Congress of the

18th of March last, respecting the former and new paper emissions.

This was the first advice I had of those resolutions. The promise of

annual interest in Europe appeared to me to be a hardy measure,

though, in my opinion, the weakest side of the plan.

Finding the Minister's heart and imagination much attached to his

favorite idea of getting American frigates at the expense of the

United States, I gave him the following hint.

"Madrid, June 28th, 1780.

"Sir,

"I have the honor of transmitting to your Excellency,

herewith enclosed, a copy of an act of the State of

Connecticut, just come to hand, in which are recited certain

resolutions of Congress, passed the 18th of March last.

"These resolutions are calculated to put the American

finances on a permanent footing. They direct, among other

things, that bills be issued, redeemable in specie, with

interest, at the expiration of six years. The interest to be

paid at the redemption of the bills, or at the election of

the holder annually, at the American Loan Offices, in

sterling bills of exchange on the commissioners in Europe.

"Your Excellency will perceive, that when this plan, so well

concerted, shall be fully executed, it will furnish the

United States with resources equal to all the exigencies of

the war, and probably enable them to supply his Catholic

Majesty with vessels, &c, &c.

"I take the liberty, therefore, of submitting to your

Excellency's consideration, whether it would not be for the

benefit of both nations, that his Majesty, on the one hand,

should engage his responsibility for the credit of a certain

proportion of the sum so to be emitted; and that the United

States, on the other hand, should not only pledge their faith

to indemnify his Majesty, but also furnish him with certain

aids in vessels, &c.

"If your Excellency should think this hint worthy of your

attention, it will be easy to improve it, and adjust the

particulars.

"I have the honor to be, &c.

JOHN JAY."

This letter was accompanied with the following one, on the subject of

some more bills that had just arrived.

"Mr Jay presents his respectful compliments to his Excellency

the Count de Florida Blanca, and has the honor of informing

him, that he has been called upon to accept bills to the

amount of between ten and eleven thousand dollars; that the

far greater part of them belong to Messrs Joyce of this city,

who have agreed to wait for an answer until Monday next.

"Mr Jay exceedingly regrets his being obliged to give his

Excellency so much trouble, but still flatters himself, that,

when his Excellency considers it as his duty which imposes

that necessity upon him, his goodness will excuse it.

_Madrid, June 28th, 1780._"

I ought also to add, that I had sent to the Count a representation on

the subject of a very high handed stretch of power in the Governor of

Teneriffe, towards a prize carried there by some Americans. On the

next day I received the following answer to these three papers.

Translation.

"Aranjues, June 29th, 1780.

"The Count de Florida Blanca has had the honor of the three

last letters, which Mr Jay has been pleased to write him.

"The first relates to a privateer detained in the Canaries.

On this point he can say nothing until he has obtained some

further information thereon.

"The second respects some new bills of exchange just

presented by Messrs Joyce, to the amount of between ten and

eleven thousand dollars. The Count can give no positive

answer hereon, without first taking the orders of the King,

his master, and having a meeting with the other Ministers,

and some of these having already gone to Madrid, a

determination cannot be immediately had, which renders it

necessary for Mr Jay to require Messrs Joyce to wait some

days longer for the answer in question.

"The third contains a project of an arrangement, by which his

Majesty should oblige himself for his responsibility for

certain sums in favor of Congress, and they, on their part,

for the indemnification of the said sums at a certain period,

by furnishing some vessels, &c. Mr Jay is therefore entreated

to draw out a more clear and precise plan on this subject,

noting therein the sum to which the responsibility of the

King should extend, and on which they may converse at their

first interview.

"In the meanwhile the Count has the honor of assuring him of

the sincerity of his esteem and attachment."

Congress will observe, that the Minister still kept up the idea of an

interference in favor of these bills. On the 3d of July, the Count

having removed to Madrid, he wrote me a note expressing the same idea.

It is in these words

Translation.

"The Count de Florida Blanca presents his compliments to Mr

Jay, and prays to be informed when the last bills of

exchange, which he mentioned the other day as being in the

hands of Messrs Joyce, and amounting to about ten or eleven

thousand dollars, will become payable. At the Palace, 3d of

July, 1780."

Thus things were apparently in good train, when the news of the loss

of Charleston became credible. The effect of it was as visible the

next day, as that of a hard night's frost on young leaves.

I requested a conference with the Minister, and had one on the evening

of the 5th of July. The following are notes of it.

Madrid, July 5th, 1780.

Mr Jay waited on the Count de Florida Blanca agreeably to an

appointment made by the latter to meet at his house at half

past eight this evening.

After the usual compliments, the bad news relative to the

surrender of Charleston, just received, became the topic of

conversation. The Count mentioned the channels through which

he had received it, viz. by an express despatched by the

Spanish Ambassador at Lisbon, in consequence of intelligence

which Governor Johnson had received and published in that

city, and by letters from the Count d'Aranda, with the

accounts printed at London of the affair. He expressed his

sorrow on the occasion, but observed, that the Count d'Aranda

flattered him, that the arrival of the Chevalier de Ternay in

that part of the world would totally change the face of

affairs, particularly as there would be eight vessels of the

line, and more than five thousand troops instead of three

thousand, and three vessels of the line which he had been

informed were demanded by General Washington.

He seemed to think it strange, that the place had not been

better defended, and that more vigorous measures had not

been taken to impede the enemy's progress, and observed, that

if the town was not in a condition to stand a siege, it would

have been better to have withdrawn the troops and stores, and

reserved them for the defence of the country. Mr Jay replied,

that probably when all circumstances relative to this affair

were known, there might be reasons which would account for

the conduct of the Americans on this occasion; to the truth

of which remark the Count appeared to assent. He then

mentioned the death of M. Mirales, and regretted his loss at

this time. He said, he had recommended to his Majesty a

person to succeed him, whom we knew, that spoke English, whom

he expected soon, and to whom he would explain his ideas on

the subject of the bills, and on other matters, touching

which Mr Jay had written to him, and who would confer also

with Mr Jay on those subjects.

Mr Jay mentioned, that if it was agreeable to his Excellency

to permit M. Del Campo (a confidential secretary of the

Count, who speaks English, and who translated all the letters

to and from the Count) to be present, he should be able to

explain his sentiments more fully and clearly. Though the

Count did not object to this proposal, he appeared

disinclined to it, and said, that with the assistance of Mr

Carmichael, then present, they could understand each other

very well.

He then proceeded to speak of the bills of exchange in the

possession of the Messrs Joyce, and seemed to be surprised

that that House should be possessed of so many of them. He

advised Mr Jay to be cautious of those gentlemen, saying,

that they were as much English in their hearts as the

Ministry of that country; that he had known them long, that

he thought their conduct extraordinary in being so urgent

for the acceptance of these bills. Mr Jay then informed his

Excellency, that he had paid those gentlemen a visit in order

to obtain further time, and that they had consented to wait

until Monday next. The Count mentioned a fortnight or three

weeks as necessary, in order that he might have an

opportunity of seeing the person he had sent for, and making

some arrangements with him. He said, that it would be more

agreeable to his Majesty to pay those bills at Cadiz, Bilboa,

or Amsterdam, than here; lamented the precipitancy with which

Congress had entered into this measure, saying, that if they

had previously addressed the King on the subject, ways and

means might have been found, either to transport from their

possessions in America specie for the service of Congress, or

to have enabled them to have drawn bills of exchange at a

shorter sight, which would have prevented the loss of one

third of the money to which Congress had subjected

themselves, by the terms on which the present bills were

sold. Mr Jay assured his Excellency, that by letters he had

received from America, from members of Congress and others,

he was informed, that the terms were judged so unfavorable to

the buyers, that the bills drawn on him sold heavily from

that circumstance solely, and not from any doubt of their

credit and payment.

This did not, however, appear to convince his Excellency, who

spoke much of the deranged state of our finances and credit;

of the advantages taken of Congress by merchants and others,

who availed themselves of that circumstance, which he called

cruel extortions, frequently expressing the King's wishes and

his own to render America all the service in their power in

this crisis of their affairs; but observed, that it was

impossible to obtain much money in Europe while France,

England, and Spain, were making use of every resource to

obtain it for the enormous expenses of the war, and while the

channel through which the European merchants received

supplies of specie was stopped, viz. the arrival of the usual

quantity from America. This induced him to mention the

arrival at Cadiz of three millions of piastres, all of which

was on account of the merchants, and again to dwell on what

he had before said of the possibility of transmitting specie

to the States from the Spanish possessions abroad, and of the

effect that this would have in re-establishing the credit of

our money. Mr Jay observed in reply, that if a supply of

specie could be sent to America, and his Excellency thought

that measure more convenient and advisable than bills, the

Congress would, in his opinion, readily suspend drawing, on

receiving that information; to which the Count answered, that

when the person he had sent for arrived, this matter might be

further discussed.

Mr Jay then proceeded to observe, that by papers which he had

transmitted to his Excellency, he would see that Congress had

adopted a system to redeem and destroy the former emissions,

and to emit other bills to be paid in Europe with interest in

a certain term of years, and in fully establishing this

system, it would be probably in their power, not only to

sustain the credit of their money, but to contribute, in some

measure, to assist Spain in the way proposed by his

Excellency, viz. in building of frigates, &c. &c. He added,

that as his Majesty's treasure was detained in America, and

as much expense would be incurred by the armaments employed

by Spain there, that bills on the Havana in favor of the

United States might be more convenient to Spain, and equally

contribute to the end proposed. The Count did not seem to

disapprove of the idea, but did not enlarge upon it. He asked

Mr Jay, if America could not furnish Spain with masts and

ship timber. Mr Jay replied, that those articles might be

obtained there. The Count then said that he would defer

further remarks on this head, till the arrival of the person

whom he expected would succeed M. Mirales, and appeared

desirous of leaving this subject, and, indeed, all other

matters relative to American affairs to be discussed when he

came.

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