Mr. Talmage has still another argument in favor

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of the inspiration of the Scriptures. He takes the

ground that the Bible must be inspired, because so

many people believe it.

Mr. Talmage should remember that a scientific

fact does not depend upon the vote of numbers;--

it depends simply upon demonstration; it depends

upon intelligence and investigation, not upon an

ignorant multitude; it appeals to the highest, in-

stead of to the lowest. Nothing can be settled

by popular prejudice.

According to Mr. Talmage, there are about three

hundred million Christians in the world. Is this true?

In all countries claiming to be Christian--including

all of civilized Europe, Russia in Asia, and every

country on the Western hemisphere, we have nearly

four hundred millions of people. Mr. Talmage claims

that three hundred millions are Christians. I sup-

pose he means by this, that if all should perish to-

night, about three hundred millions would wake up

in heaven--having lived and died good and consist-

ent Christians.

There are in Russia about eighty millions of people

--how many Christians? I admit that they have re-

cently given more evidence of orthodox Christianity

than formerly. They have been murdering old men;

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they have thrust daggers into the breasts of women;

they have violated maidens--because they were Jews.

Thousands and thousands are sent each year to the

mines of Siberia, by the Christian government of

Russia. Girls eighteen years of age, for having ex-

pressed a word in favor of human liberty, are to-day

working like beasts of burden, with chains upon

their limbs and with the marks of whips upon

their backs. Russia, of course, is considered by Mr.

Talmage as a Christian country--a country utterly

destitute of liberty--without freedom of the press,

without freedom of speech, where every mouth is

locked and every tongue a prisoner--a country filled

with victims, soldiers, spies, thieves and executioners.

What would Russia be, in the opinion of Mr. Tal-

mage, but for Christianity? How could it be worse,

when assassins are among the best people in it?

The truth is, that the people in Russia, to-day, who

are in favor of human liberty, are not Christians.

The men willing to sacrifice their lives for the good

of others, are not believers in the Christian religion.

The men who wish to break chains are infidels;

the men who make chains are Christians. Every

good and sincere Catholic of the Greek Church

is a bad citizen, an enemy of progress, a foe of

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human liberty. Yet Mr. Talmage regards Russia

as a Christian country.

The sixteen millions of people in Spain are claimed

as Christians. Spain, that for centuries was the as-

sassin of human rights; Spain, that endeavored to

spread Christianity by flame and fagot; Spain, the

soil where the Inquisition flourished, where bigotry

grew, and where cruelty was worship,--where

murder was prayer. I admit that Spain is a Chris-

tian nation. I admit that infidelity has gained no

foothold beyond the Pyrenees. The Spaniards are

orthodox. They believe in the inspiration of the

Old and New Testaments. They have no doubts

about miracles--no doubts about heaven, no doubts

about hell. I admit that the priests, the highway-

men, the bishops and thieves, are equally true be-

lievers. The man who takes your purse on the

highway, and the priest who forgives the robber,

are alike orthodox.

It gives me pleasure, however, to say that even in

Spain there is a dawn. Some great men, some men

of genius, are protesting against the tyranny of Cath-

olicism. Some men have lost confidence in the

cathedral, and are beginningto ask the State to erect

the schoolhouse. They are beginning to suspect

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that priests are for the most part impostors and

plunderers.

According to Mr. Talmage, the twenty-eight mil-

lions in Italy are Christians. There the Christian

Church was early established, and the popes are to-

day the successors of St. Peter. For hundreds and

hundreds of years, Italy was the beggar of the world,

and to her, from every land, flowed streams of gold

and silver. The country was covered with convents,

and monasteries, and churches, and cathedrals filled

with monks and nuns. Its roads were crowded with

pilgrims, and its dust was on the feet of the world.

What has Christianity done for Italy--Italy, its soil a

blessing, its sky a smile--Italy, with memories great

enough to kindle the fires of enthusiasm in any

human breast?

Had it not been for a few Freethinkers, for a few

infidels, for such men as Garibaldi and Mazzini, the

heaven of Italy would still have been without a star.

I admit that Italy, with its popes and bandits, with

its superstition and ignorance, with its sanctified

beggars, is a Christian nation; but in a little while,--

in a few days,--when according to the prophecy of

Garibaldi priests, with spades in their hands, will

dig ditches to drain the Pontine marshes; in a little

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while, when the pope leaves the Vatican, and seeks

the protection of a nation he has denounced,--asking

alms of intended victims; when the nuns shall marry,

and the monasteries shall become factories, and the

whirl of wheels shall take the place of drowsy prayers

--then, and not until then, will Italy be,--not a

Christian nation, but great, prosperous, and free.

In Italy, Giordano Bruno was burned. Some day,

his monument will rise above the cross of Rome.

We have in our day one example,--and so far as I

know, history records no other,--of the resurrection

of a nation. Italy has been called from the grave of

superstition. She is "the first fruits of them that

"slept."

I admit with Mr. Talmage that Portugal is a Chris-

tian country--that she engaged for hundreds of years

in the slave trade, and that she justified the infamous

traffic by passages in the Old Testament. I admit,

also, that she persecuted the Jews in accordance

with the same divine volume. I admit that all the

crime, ignorance, destitution, and superstition in that

country were produced by the Catholic Church. I

also admit that Portugal would be better if it were

Protestant.

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