Mr. GRAVES. Because after this little episode with them, I never saw
them or had any occasion to talk to them any further.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember any conversation particularly with Domingo
Benavides?
Mr. GRAVES. No.
Mr. BELIN. Well, I am going to try and refresh your recollection to see
if I can help you a little bit.
I believe that he was driving a pickup truck at about the time of the
Tippit shooting, and actually was the first one to place a call over
Tippit's radio that Tippit had been shot. Does this strike a chord in
your memory?
Mr. GRAVES. Not to me. He didn't tell me that. Leavelle talked to him
to one side.
Mr. BELIN. Oh, I see. You weren't the one he talked to?
Mr. GRAVES. He didn't tell me that.
Mr. BELIN. But Officer Leavelle would be the one he talked to?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Anything else on November 22?
Mr. GRAVES. I don't remember anything else of any consequence. I had so
many phone calls.
Mr. BELIN. You had a few phone calls to the police station that day?
Mr. GRAVES. Just a few, yes.
Mr. BELIN. What about on November 23?
Mr. GRAVES. That is the day I took the affidavit of Mrs. Bledsoe.
Mr. BELIN. Did you ever bring Mrs. Bledsoe down to view the lineup at
all, or not?
Mr. GRAVES. I didn't; no.
Mr. BELIN. Was there any particular reason why you elected not to take
her down, if this was your election? I don't know if it was.
Mr. GRAVES. What?
Mr. BELIN. Is there any particular reason why you didn't bring her down
to view a lineup?
Mr. GRAVES. Not that I can think of.
Mr. BELIN. Now she claimed that she had seen Lee Harvey Oswald on a bus
shortly after the assassination?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember whether or not you asked her to come down to
a lineup and she refused to come down?
Mr. GRAVES. No; I didn't ask her to come down to a lineup herself. I
asked her to come down and give an affidavit.
Mr. BELIN. Was she actually at the police department?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Did anyone else ask--let me ask you this question. Whose
responsibility would it have been to have a lineup for certain people?
Is this the interviewing officer, or is this the person in charge of
the investigation, or what?
Mr. GRAVES. In a case like this, it would have to be the person in
charge of the entire investigation.
Mr. BELIN. Who would that have been? Insofar as Bledsoe?
Mr. GRAVES. Insofar as our bureau was concerned, it would have been
Captain Fritz.
Mr. BELIN. Anything else that you can remember on November 23?
Mr. GRAVES. Let me refresh my memory here, if I can. I don't know. I
don't remember anything else on the 23d that was outstanding.
Mr. BELIN. Now on November 24--first, I want to take that part of
November 24 up to the time of the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald by
Jack Ruby. First, did you have any contact or anything to do with the
investigation of the case on November 24, on Sunday?
Mr. GRAVES. No; not before he was transferred.
Mr. BELIN. Did you have anything to do with the interrogation of Lee
Harvey Oswald?
Mr. GRAVES. Nothing except that I was present during the latter part of
the interrogation; part of it.
Mr. BELIN. Could you state the circumstances under which you were
present? How you happened to be present?
Mr. GRAVES. Well, I had been told that we were going to transfer Lee
Harvey Oswald, and we were told to make preparations to do that, so
that would necessitate going into the office where he was.
Mr. BELIN. What did you find when you went in the office?
Mr. GRAVES. Well, I found, of course, Lee Harvey Oswald, Captain
Fritz, and the people that I have named here. The others present were
Mr. Holmes from the U.S. Post Office Department, Mr. Kelley from
the Secret Service, Agent Sorrels from the Secret Service, L. D.
Montgomery, detective; C. N. Dhority, J. R. Leavelle; and Chief Curry
came in just a few minutes before we started to move.
Mr. BELIN. Did you participate in the bringing of Oswald down to be
interrogated?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. At about what time in the morning, was this?
Mr. GRAVES. I think that was around 9:30 a.m.
Mr. BELIN. Did you stay with him throughout the interrogation, or did
you leave?
Mr. GRAVES. I stayed in the same room near. In the bureau, actually.
Mr. BELIN. This was done in Captain Fritz' office, was it not?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. After you brought Lee Harvey Oswald into Captain Fritz'
office at 9:30 a.m., what did you do?
Mr. GRAVES. I went back out and answered telephones and talked to
people coming in.
Mr. BELIN. Did you witness any part of the early interrogation?
Mr. GRAVES. No; I didn't.
Mr. BELIN. What time did you go back into Captain Fritz' office?
Mr. GRAVES. Roughly, about 11:10 or 11:15 a.m.
Mr. BELIN. Well, the original time set for transfer was around 10 a.m.?
Mr. GRAVES. That was my understanding.
Mr. BELIN. All right, let me ask you, has anyone else taken your
deposition here?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. So you have already been questioned as to the transfer of
Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. GRAVES. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. That is something I don't want to get into. What about the
interrogation? Do you remember any subjects that were covered?
Mr. GRAVES. Well, I couldn't think of Mr. Kelley's name, the last time,
but he questioned Oswald along the line of his activity in Mexico and
in Russia.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember whether or not Oswald admitted that he was
in Mexico?
Mr. GRAVES. I believe he did admit it.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what he said about his activities in Mexico?
Mr. GRAVES. I am too vague on that to make any statement on what he
said. I don't remember exactly, so I would rather not say anything. I
know that he did say something, but the best of my knowledge, it sure
didn't amount to a great deal. Very evasive, as every other answer was.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember anything specific, any questions or any
statements that Oswald made about any other subject that was discussed?
Mr. GRAVES. Well, he said that he had been a student of Marxism since
he was 14, I believe, and Communist line, and that he, well, one of
his last statements was that the American people would soon forget the
President was shot. Of course he never admitted that he did it.
Mr. BELIN. Was he asked in your presence whether or not he did it?