But I admit it is a disadvantage that they have not a saint or hero to

crown in effigy as well as a traitor to burn in effigy. I admit that

popular Protestantism has become too purely negative for people to

wreathe in flowers the statue of Mr. Kensit or even of Dr. Clifford. I

do not disguise my preference for popular Catholicism; which still has

statues that can be wreathed in flowers. I wish our national feast of

fireworks revolved round something positive and popular. I wish the

beauty of a Catherine Wheel were displayed to the glory of St.

Catherine. I should not especially complain if Roman candles were really

Roman candles. But this negative character does not destroy the national

character; which began at least in disinterested faith and has ended at

least in disinterested fun. There is nothing disinterested at all about

the new commercial fireworks. There is nothing so dignified as a dingy

guy among the lights of Broadway. In that thoroughfare, indeed, the very

word guy has another and milder significance. An American friend

congratulated me on the impression I produced on a lady interviewer,

observing, 'She says you're a regular guy.' This puzzled me a little at

the time. 'Her description is no doubt correct,' I said, 'but I confess

that it would never have struck me as specially complimentary.' But it

appears that it is one of the most graceful of compliments, in the

original American. A guy in America is a colourless term for a human

being. All men are guys, being endowed by their Creator with certain ...

but I am misled by another association. And a regular guy means, I

presume, a reliable or respectable guy. The point here, however, is that

the guy in the grotesque English sense does represent the dilapidated

remnant of a real human tradition of symbolising real historic ideals by

the sacramental mystery of fire. It is a great fall from the lowest of

these lowly bonfires to the highest of the modern sky-signs. The new

illumination does not stand for any national ideal at all; and what is

yet more to the point, it does not come from any popular enthusiasm at

all. That is where it differs from the narrowest national Protestantism

of the English institution. Mobs have risen in support of No Popery; no

mobs are likely to rise in defence of the New Puffery. Many a poor crazy

Orangeman has died saying, 'To Hell with the Pope'; it is doubtful

whether any man will ever, with his last breath, frame the ecstatic

words, 'Try Hugby's Chewing Gum.' These modern and mercantile legends

are imposed upon us by a mercantile minority, and we are merely passive

to the suggestion. The hypnotist of high finance or big business merely

writes his commands in heaven with a finger of fire. All men really are

guys, in the sense of dummies. We are only the victims of his

pyrotechnic violence; and it is he who hits us in the eye.

This is the real case against that modern society that is symbolised by

such art and architecture. It is not that it is toppling, but that it is

top-heavy. It is not that it is vulgar, but rather that it is not

popular. In other words, the democratic ideal of countries like America,

while it is still generally sincere and sometimes intense, is at issue

with another tendency, an industrial progress which is of all things on

earth the most undemocratic. America is not alone in possessing the

industrialism, but she is alone in emphasising the ideal that strives

with industrialism. Industrial capitalism and ideal democracy are

everywhere in controversy; but perhaps only here are they in conflict.

France has a democratic ideal; but France is not industrial. England and

Germany are industrial; but England and Germany are not really

democratic. Of course when I speak here of industrialism I speak of

great industrial areas; there is, as will be noted later, another side

to all these countries; there is in America itself not only a great deal

of agricultural society, but a great deal of agricultural equality;

just as there are still peasants in Germany and may some day again be

peasants in England. But the point is that the ideal and its enemy the

reality are here crushed very close to each other in the high, narrow

city; and that the sky-scraper is truly named because its top, towering

in such insolence, is scraping the stars off the American sky, the very

heaven of the American spirit.

That seems to me the main outline of the whole problem. In the first

chapter of this book, I have emphasised the fact that equality is still

the ideal though no longer the reality of America. I should like to

conclude this one by emphasising the fact that the reality of modern

capitalism is menacing that ideal with terrors and even splendours that

might well stagger the wavering and impressionable modern spirit. Upon

the issue of that struggle depends the question of whether this new

great civilisation continues to exist, and even whether any one cares if

it exists or not. I have already used the parable of the American flag,

and the stars that stand for a multitudinous equality; I might here take

the opposite symbol of these artificial and terrestrial stars flaming on

the forehead of the commercial city; and note the peril of the last

illusion, which is that the artificial stars may seem to fill the

heavens, and the real stars to have faded from sight. But I am content

for the moment to reaffirm the merely imaginative pleasure of those

dizzy turrets and dancing fires. If those nightmare buildings were

really all built for nothing, how noble they would be! The fact that

they were really built for something need not unduly depress us for a

moment, or drag down our soaring fancies. There is something about these

vertical lines that suggests a sort of rush upwards, as of great

cataracts topsy-turvy. I have spoken of fireworks, but here I should

rather speak of rockets. There is only something underneath the mind

murmuring that nothing remains at last of a flaming rocket except a

falling stick. I have spoken of Babylonian perspectives, and of words

written with a fiery finger, like that huge unhuman finger that wrote on

Belshazzar's wall.... But what did it write on Belshazzar's wall?... I

am content once more to end on a note of doubt and a rather dark

sympathy with those many-coloured solar systems turning so dizzily, far

up in the divine vacuum of the night.

'From the earth we come and to the earth we return; when people get away

from that they are lost.'

_Irish and other Interviewers_

It is often asked what should be the first thing that a man sees when he

lands in a foreign country; but I think it should be the vision of his

own country. At least when I came into New York Harbour, a sort of grey

and green cloud came between me and the towers with multitudinous

windows, white in the winter sunlight; and I saw an old brown house

standing back among the beech-trees at home, the house of only one among

many friends and neighbours, but one somehow so sunken in the very heart

of England as to be unconscious of her imperial or international

position, and out of the sound of her perilous seas. But what made most

clear the vision that revisited me was something else. Before we touched

land the men of my own guild, the journalists and reporters, had already

boarded the ship like pirates. And one of them spoke to me in an accent

that I knew; and thanked me for all I had done for Ireland. And it was

at that moment that I knew most vividly that what I wanted was to do

something for England.

Then, as it chanced, I looked across at the statue of Liberty, and saw

that the great bronze was gleaming green in the morning light. I had

made all the obvious jokes about the statue of Liberty. I found it had a

soothing effect on earnest Prohibitionists on the boat to urge, as a

point of dignity and delicacy, that it ought to be given back to the

French, a vicious race abandoned to the culture of the vine. I proposed

that the last liquors on board should be poured out in a pagan libation

before it. And then I suddenly remembered that this Liberty was still in

some sense enlightening the world, or one part of the world; was a lamp

for one sort of wanderer, a star of one sort of seafarer. To one

persecuted people at least this land had really been an asylum; even if

recent legislation (as I have said) had made them think it a lunatic

asylum. They had made it so much their home that the very colour of the

country seemed to change with the infusion; as the bronze of the great

statue took on a semblance of the wearing of the green.

It is a commonplace that the Englishman has been stupid in his relations

with the Irish; but he has been far more stupid in his relations with

the Americans on the subject of the Irish. His propaganda has been worse

than his practice; and his defence more ill-considered than the most

indefensible things that it was intended to defend. There is in this

matter a curious tangle of cross-purposes, which only a parallel example

can make at all clear. And I will note the point here, because it is

some testimony to its vivid importance that it was really the first I

had to discuss on American soil with an American citizen. In a double

sense I touched Ireland before I came to America. I will take an

imaginary instance from another controversy; in order to show how the

apology can be worse than the action. The best we can say for ourselves

is worse than the worst that we can do.

There was a time when English poets and other publicists could always be

inspired with instantaneous indignation about the persecuted Jews in

Russia. We have heard less about them since we heard more about the

persecuting Jews in Russia. I fear there are a great many middle-class

Englishmen already who wish that Trotsky had been persecuted a little

more. But even in those days Englishmen divided their minds in a curious

fashion; and unconsciously distinguished between the Jews whom they had

never seen, in Warsaw, and the Jews whom they had often seen in

Whitechapel. It seemed to be assumed that, by a curious coincidence,

Russia possessed not only the very worst Anti-Semites but the very best

Semites. A moneylender in London might be like Judas Iscariot; but a

moneylender in Moscow must be like Judas Maccabaeus.

Nevertheless there remained in our common sense an unconscious but

fundamental comprehension of the unity of Israel; a sense that some

things could be said, and some could not be said, about the Jews as a

whole. Suppose that even in those days, to say nothing of these, an

English protest against Russian Anti-Semitism had been answered by the

Russian Anti-Semites, and suppose the answer had been somewhat as

follows:--

'It is all very well for foreigners to complain of our denying civic

rights to our Jewish subjects; but we know the Jews better than they do.

They are a barbarous people, entirely primitive, and very like the

simple savages who cannot count beyond five on their fingers. It is

quite impossible to make them understand ordinary numbers, to say

nothing of simple economics. They do not realise the meaning or the

value of money. No Jew anywhere in the world can get into his stupid

head the notion of a bargain, or of exchanging one thing for another.

Their hopeless incapacity for commerce or finance would retard the

progress of our people, would prevent the spread of any sort of economic

education, would keep the whole country on a level lower than that of

the most prehistoric methods of barter. What Russia needs most is a

mercantile middle class; and it is unjust to ask us to swamp its small

beginnings in thousands of these rude tribesmen, who cannot do a sum of

simple addition, or understand the symbolic character of a threepenny

bit. We might as well be asked to give civic rights to cows and pigs as

to this unhappy, half-witted race who can no more count than the beasts

of the field. In every intellectual exercise they are hopelessly

incompetent; no Jew can play chess; no Jew can learn languages; no Jew

has ever appeared in the smallest part in any theatrical performance; no

Jew can give or take any pleasure connected with any musical instrument.

These people are our subjects; and we understand them. We accept full

responsibility for treating such troglodytes on our own terms.'

It would not be entirely convincing. It would sound a little far-fetched

and unreal. But it would sound exactly like our utterances about the

Irish, as they sound to all Americans, and rather especially to

Anti-Irish Americans. That is exactly the impression we produce on the

people of the United States when we say, as we do say in substance,

something like this: 'We mean no harm to the poor dear Irish, so dreamy,

so irresponsible, so incapable of order or organisation. If we were to

withdraw from their country they would only fight among themselves; they

have no notion of how to rule themselves. There is something charming

about their unpracticability, about their very incapacity for the coarse

business of politics. But for their own sakes it is impossible to leave

these emotional visionaries to ruin themselves in the attempt to rule

themselves. They are like children; but they are our own children, and

we understand them. We accept full responsibility for acting as their

parents and guardians.'

Now the point is not only that this view of the Irish is false, but that

it is the particular view that the Americans know to be false. While we

are saying that the Irish could not organise, the Americans are

complaining, often very bitterly, of the power of Irish organisation.

While we say that the Irishman could not rule himself, the Americans are

saying, more or less humorously, that the Irishman rules them. A highly

intelligent professor said to me in Boston, 'We have solved the Irish

problem here; we have an entirely independent Irish Government.' While

we are complaining, in an almost passionate manner, of the impotence of

mere cliques of idealists and dreamers, they are complaining, often in a

very indignant manner, of the power of great gangs of bosses and

bullies. There are a great many Americans who pity the Irish, very

naturally and very rightly, for the historic martyrdom which their

patriotism has endured. But there are a great many Americans who do not

pity the Irish in the least. They would be much more likely to pity the

English; only this particular way of talking tends rather to make them

despise the English. Thus both the friends of Ireland and the foes of

Ireland tend to be the foes of England. We make one set of enemies by

our action, and another by our apology.

It is a thing that can from time to time be found in history; a

misunderstanding that really has a moral. The English excuse would carry

much more weight if it had more sincerity and more humility. There are

a considerable number of people in the United States who could

sympathise with us, if we would say frankly that we fear the Irish.

Those who thus despise our pity might possibly even respect our fear.

The argument I have often used in other places comes back with

prodigious and redoubled force, after hearing anything of American

opinion; the argument that the only reasonable or reputable excuse for

the English is the excuse of a patriotic sense of peril; and that the

Unionist, if he must be a Unionist, should use that and no other. When

the Unionist has said that he dare not let loose against himself a

captive he has so cruelly wronged, he has said all that he has to say;

all that he has ever had to say; all that he will ever have to say. He

is like a man who has sent a virile and rather vindictive rival unjustly

to penal servitude; and who connives at the continuance of the sentence,

not because he himself is particularly vindictive, but because he is

afraid of what the convict will do when he comes out of prison. This is

not exactly a moral strength, but it is a very human weakness; and that

is the most that can be said for it. All other talk, about Celtic frenzy

or Catholic superstition, is cant invented to deceive himself or to

deceive the world. But the vital point to realise is that it is cant

that cannot possibly deceive the American world. In the matter of the

Irishman the American is not to be deceived. It is not merely true to

say that he knows better. It is equally true to say that he knows worse.

He knows vices and evils in the Irishman that are entirely hidden in the

hazy vision of the Englishman. He knows that our unreal slanders are

inconsistent even with the real sins. To us Ireland is a shadowy Isle of

Sunset, like Atlantis, about which we can make up legends. To him it is

a positive ward or parish in the heart of his huge cities, like

Whitechapel; about which even we cannot make legends but only lies. And,

as I have said, there are some lies we do not tell even about

Whitechapel. We do not say it is inhabited by Jews too stupid to count

or know the value of a coin.

The first thing for any honest Englishman to send across the sea is

this; that the English have not the shadow of a notion of what they are

up against in America. They have never even heard of the batteries of

almost brutal energy, of which I had thus touched a live wire even

before I landed. People talk about the hypocrisy of England in dealing

with a small nationality. What strikes me is the stupidity of England in

supposing that she is dealing with a small nationality; when she is

really dealing with a very large nationality. She is dealing with a

nationality that often threatens, even numerically, to dominate all the

other nationalities of the United States. The Irish are not decaying;

they are not unpractical; they are scarcely even scattered; they are not

even poor. They are the most powerful and practical world-combination

with whom we can decide to be friends or foes; and that is why I thought

first of that still and solid brown house in Buckinghamshire, standing

back in the shadow of the trees.

Among my impressions of America I have deliberately put first the figure

of the Irish-American interviewer, standing on the shore more symbolic

than the statue of Liberty. The Irish interviewer's importance for the

English lay in the fact of his being an Irishman, but there was also

considerable interest in the circumstance of his being an interviewer.

And as certain wild birds sometimes wing their way far out to sea and

are the first signal of the shore, so the first Americans the traveller

meets are often American interviewers; and they are generally birds of a

feather, and they certainly flock together. In this respect, there is a

slight difference in the etiquette of the craft in the two countries,

which I was delighted to discuss with my fellow craftsmen. If I could at

that moment have flown back to Fleet Street I am happy to reflect that

nobody in the world would in the least wish to interview me. I should

attract no more attention than the stone griffin opposite the Law

Courts; both monsters being grotesque but also familiar. But supposing

for the sake of argument that anybody did want to interview me, it is

fairly certain that the fact of one paper publishing such an interview

would rather prevent the other papers from doing so. The repetition of

the same views of the same individual in two places would be considered

rather bad journalism; it would have an air of stolen thunder, not to

say stage thunder.

But in America the fact of my landing and lecturing was evidently

regarded in the same light as a murder or a great fire, or any other

terrible but incurable catastrophe, a matter of interest to all pressmen

concerned with practical events. One of the first questions I was asked

was how I should be disposed to explain the wave of crime in New York.

Naturally I replied that it might possibly be due to the number of

English lecturers who had recently landed. In the mood of the moment it

seemed possible that, if they had all been interviewed, regrettable

incidents might possibly have taken place. But this was only the mood of

the moment, and even as a mood did not last more than a moment. And

since it has reference to a rather common and a rather unjust conception

of American journalism, I think it well to take it first as a fallacy to

be refuted, though the refutation may require a rather longer approach.

I have generally found that the traveller fails to understand a foreign

country, through treating it as a tendency and not as a balance. But if

a thing were always tending in one direction it would soon tend to

destruction. Everything that merely progresses finally perishes. Every

nation, like every family, exists upon a compromise, and commonly a

rather eccentric compromise; using the word 'eccentric' in the sense of

something that is somehow at once crazy and healthy. Now the foreigner

commonly sees some feature that he thinks fantastic without seeing the

feature that balances it. The ordinary examples are obvious enough. An

Englishman dining inside a hotel on the boulevards thinks the French

eccentric in refusing to open a window. But he does not think the

English eccentric in refusing to carry their chairs and tables out on to

the pavement in Ludgate Circus. An Englishman will go poking about in

little Swiss or Italian villages, in wild mountains or in remote

islands, demanding tea; and never reflects that he is like a Chinaman

who should enter all the wayside public-houses in Kent and Sussex and

demand opium. But the point is not merely that he demands what he cannot

expect to enjoy; it is that he ignores even what he does enjoy. He does

not realise the sublime and starry paradox of the phrase, _vin

ordinaire_, which to him should be a glorious jest like the phrase

'common gold' or 'daily diamonds.' These are the simple and self-evident

cases; but there are many more subtle cases of the same thing; of the

tendency to see that the nation fills up its own gap with its own

substitute; or corrects its own extravagance with its own precaution.

The national antidote generally grows wild in the woods side by side

with the national poison. If it did not, all the natives would be dead.

For it is so, as I have said, that nations necessarily die of the

undiluted poison called progress.

It is so in this much-abused and over-abused example of the American

journalist. The American interviewers really have exceedingly good

manners for the purposes of their trade, granted that it is necessary to

pursue their trade. And even what is called their hustling method can

truly be said to cut both ways, or hustle both ways; for if they hustle

in, they also hustle out. It may not at first sight seem the very

warmest compliment to a gentleman to congratulate him on the fact that

he soon goes away. But it really is a tribute to his perfection in a

very delicate social art; and I am quite serious when I say that in this

respect the interviewers are artists. It might be more difficult for an

Englishman to come to the point, particularly the sort of point which

American journalists are supposed, with some exaggeration, to aim at. It

might be more difficult for an Englishman to ask a total stranger on the

spur of the moment for the exact inscription on his mother's grave; but

I really think that if an Englishman once got so far as that he would go

very much farther, and certainly go on very much longer. The Englishman

would approach the churchyard by a rather more wandering woodland path;

but if once he had got to the grave I think he would have much more

disposition, so to speak, to sit down on it. Our own national

temperament would find it decidedly more difficult to disconnect when

connections had really been established. Possibly that is the reason why

our national temperament does not establish them. I suspect that the

real reason that an Englishman does not talk is that he cannot leave off

talking. I suspect that my solitary countrymen, hiding in separate

railway compartments, are not so much retiring as a race of Trappists as

escaping from a race of talkers.

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