I received this morning the report of the committee on the affairs of

M. Holker, which by a particular accident I was prevented from laying

before the Council this morning. I observe it is proposed to publish

it, but I presume this does not mean an immediate publication, as

there will be an indelicacy and violation of usual forms to do this,

until a return has been officially made thereupon by us to Congress,

through whom the matter came to us. In all cases of petitions or other

papers, to be presented to any public body, I take it to be a standing

rule, that the matter shall be first communicated to them, before it

is published to the world. As I observe you have sent a copy to M.

Holker, I presume it is intended thereby to give him an opportunity to

explain, deny, or admit, such a part of it as he may think proper to

do. A publication will in some measure debar him from this, whereas at

a future day, if the publication is still thought necessary, the whole

may be given together; at all events, it will be the duty of the

Council to make some report to Congress, in which this narration will

appear. As to the flour itself, perhaps there may be no inconvenience

in letting it remain a few days in its present condition. My earnest

wish is, that this business may be conducted without fear, favor, or

partiality, to the real interests of the community, all first

suspicions converted into solid proof, and those of a contrary kind

effectually banished.

The good sense of the gentlemen to whom I address myself will, I am

persuaded, make the necessary and present distinction between persons

acting in a public capacity and character, especially of another

nation, and our own citizens, who are to stand or fall by their own

laws, and the estimation of their countrymen.

I am, Gentlemen, &c.

JOSEPH REED.

No. 4.

WILLIAM HENRY TO JOSEPH REED.

Friday Afternoon, 5 o'clock, Committee Room.

Sir,

We had the honor of your favor of this morning, and beg leave to

observe in answer thereto, that Mr Morris having already published an

account of the flour, both in behalf of himself and M. Holker, as may

be judged by his publishing M. Holker's letters, and that publication

being prior to any report from the Council to Congress, we conceive

there can be no impropriety in our now taking the matter publicly up.

Besides which, we apprehend ourselves laid under an immediate

necessity to give satisfaction to our fellow citizens on the subject,

and to publish our proceedings for the previous consideration of the

meeting on Monday.

M. Holker, we conceive, ought in justice to himself to have appealed

to the Council agreeably to the resolution of Congress, which he has

not done. We have deferred the matter to the last moment, and cannot

now, without exposing the reputation of the committee, defer it

longer.

Your Excellency is sensible that nothing but the most pressing

necessity could induce us to depart from the advice you are pleased to

give, and we request you to accept the reasons we have assigned as an

apology for so doing.

By order of the committee.

I have the honor to be your Excellency's most obedient, humble

servant,

WILLIAM HENRY, _Chairman_.

* * *

All the above memorials, letters, and papers received from the

Minister this day, were referred to a committee of five, namely, Mr

Huntington, Mr Laurens, Mr Smith, Mr Morris, and Mr Kean, who were

instructed to confer with the President and the Supreme Executive

Council of the State of Pennsylvania and with the Minister and Consul

of France, and to prepare and report a state of facts, together with

their opinion of the measures proper for Congress to adopt thereupon.

* * * * *

M. HOLKER TO M. GERARD.

Translation.

Philadelphia, July 29th, 1779.

Sir,

I have the honor to send you the several annexed certificates, which

have been sent to me by Mr Rumford of Wilmington. As these papers have

a direct relation to the conduct of Mr Rumford, and to the seizure

made of the flour bought by him for the King's squadron, and as they

may give room for fuller information, as well with regard to my

transactions as to that of this commissary, or of every one else, in

relation to the said flour seized, I think it my duty to request you

to transmit them as soon as possible to Congress, informing that body

that I have sent duplicates of them to the Council of the State of

Pennsylvania. I hope that there will be found in them proofs of the

desire, which has always animated me to conform in everything to the

resolutions or recommendations of Congress, as well as to dispel all

the doubts or suspicions which insinuations, assertions, or

publications could have shed upon me. I dare even flatter myself, that

I shall at last receive the satisfactory testimonial, to which my

conduct, my transactions, public or private, in everything that can

concern the United States of America, seem to entitle me on the part

of Congress.

I am, Sir, respectfully, your obedient humble servant,

HOLKER.

* * * * *

TO THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

Philadelphia, July 30th, 1779.

Sir,

Mr Rumford has sent to the Consul of the King some new documents,

which throw great light on the affair of the flour from Wilmington. I

have the honor to forward them to you, in the hope that you will be

pleased to lay them before Congress, as well as the letter of M.

Holker, which accompanies them.

I have the honor to be, with the greatest respect, Sir, your most

humble and obedient servant,

GERARD.

* * * * *

In Congress, July 30th, 1779.

The above papers were referred to the committee of five, before

mentioned, who on the 2d of August delivered in a report, whereupon

Congress came to the following resolutions;

Resolved, That the Minister of France be assured, that Congress will

at all times afford every countenance and protection to the Consuls

and other servants of his Most Christian Majesty, with the powers and

authorities to them delegated by their constituents.

That the several appointments of Consuls made, and which may hereafter

be made and approved by Congress, be duly registered in the

Secretary's office, and properly notified by the President to the

Executive authorities of the respective States in whose ports such

Consuls may reside.

That the measures taken by M. Holker to procure flour for the fleet of

his Most Christian Majesty in the way of commerce, have from time to

time been made known unto, and been fully approved by Congress; that

the several proceedings and publications complained of by the Minister

on that subject are very injurious to the servants of his said

Majesty, and that Congress do highly disapprove of the same.

That the President and Supreme Executive Council of Pennsylvania be

informed, that any prosecutions which it may be expedient to direct

for such matters and things in the said publications or transactions,

as may be against the laws of nations, shall be carried on at the

expense of the United States.

That the Minister of France be informed that the President and

Supreme Executive Council of Pennsylvania have taken proper measures

to restore the flour taken from the agents of M. Holker.

* * * * *

THE PRESIDENT OF PENNSYLVANIA TO M. GERARD.

In Council, Philadelphia, July 31st, 1779.

Sir,

I have now the honor of addressing you in answer to the representation

you were pleased to make to this Board on the 24th instant. When, to

every principle of public affection, policy, and justice, there is

added our experience of your personal friendship to America, and your

attachment and engaging deportment to the citizens of Pennsylvania of

every rank, all professions on our part to make your residence in the

State happy, easy, and honorable, must be unnecessary. It is not easy,

therefore, for us to find language to express our concern at any

transaction which may disturb your repose, and interrupt the exercise

of those functions discharged with so much honor to yourself and

satisfaction to those, who are called to take any part in public

affairs.

In some communications which the Honorable Congress have been pleased

to make to us, we also see, with great concern, that apprehensions are

expressed, the reality of which we should deplore as an evil of the

first magnitude. Be assured, Sir, that the citizens of Philadelphia,

and of Pennsylvania, cannot entertain sentiments so unworthy; but if

there are any so lost to every sense of propriety, decency, and order,

the authority of the State has power equal to its inclination to check

and suppress so licentious and wicked a procedure.

We entreat you, therefore, to dismiss every idea so painful and so

dishonorable to us as that of personal insult, and repose confidence

in us when we confirm to you our assurances of the affection, respect,

and esteem of our constituents. And if there are any persons, who

presume to insinuate dangers of outrages, as suggested in your

representations, we most earnestly request you to consider them either

as ignorant of the real sentiments of those of whom they speak, or as

acting from less honorable motives.

I have now the honor of acquainting you, that upon the requisition of

this Board, the flour in question, and which has given rise to this

unhappy discussion, is delivered up to this Board, and that it is

ready to be put into the disposal of M. Holker, or any person he may

direct, for the purposes of its original destination, without any

condition or restriction, a measure, which we hope both as to you and

himself, will be considered as a relinquishment of those terms, which

form a ground of your complaint. Our desire to make the most early and

explicit avowal of our sentiments and intentions has induced us to

make this communication, at the same time all other business being

laid aside, we are considering the papers which touch the character of

M. Holker, upon which we shall, without delay, address ourselves to

the Honorable Congress of the United States, through whom those

communications have been made to us, and we trust it will fully

appear, that a veneration for the Prince, whose servant he is, respect

to your interposition, justice to him, and a due regard to the rights

and interests of this State, have influenced our determination.

We observe all the papers respecting this transaction have been

transmitted to you, except a resolution of this Board passed on the

14th instant, which, probably, by some accident has been omitted. I

have now the honor of enclosing it, that every proceeding may be fully

before you.

Signed in and by order of Council.

JOSEPH REED, _President_.

* * *

_In Congress._ On the 4th of August the committee to whom was referred

the Memorial of the Minister, relative to the ship Mary and

Elizabeth's cargo, delivered in a report, whereupon,

Resolved, That Congress do not entertain any suspicion, that M.

Holker, agent of the marine of his Most Christian Majesty, had any

participation in, or knowledge of, the shipping of provisions on

private account on board vessels despatched in the name of his Most

Christian Majesty.

Resolved, That frauds by masters and shippers are offences against the

municipal laws, and are to be investigated by the magistrates of the

States respectively.

* * * * *

TO THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

Philadelphia, August 5th, 1779.

Sir,

I have received with gratitude the resolution of Congress, which you

were so kind as to send me yesterday. I express my sentiments on this

subject in the annexed Memorial, which I request you to be pleased to

lay before Congress.

I have the honor to be, with the greatest respect, Sir, your most

obedient and humble servant,

GERARD.

* * * * *

TO THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

Philadelphia, August 5th, 1779.

Sir,

The Minister Plenipotentiary of France is eager to thank Congress for

the readiness with which they have been pleased to yield to his

representations of the 26th of last month.

The resolutions, which have been communicated to the undersigned in

the name of Congress, appear to him to leave nothing to be desired; he

only hopes that the public will be informed of the opinions of

Congress, in whatever form they shall think the most suitable; and the

Minister Plenipotentiary is persuaded, that his Court will regard the

said resolutions as a suitable and sufficient satisfaction for the

proceedings which they condemn, and the offence which has resulted

from them.

It is under this impression, that the undersigned Minister takes the

liberty to request Congress not to carry into execution that one of

their resolutions which orders, that those who on this occasion may

have violated the laws of nations shall be prosecuted. The King's

greatness of mind forbids his Minister to insist upon such a measure.

Between nations closely connected by the most powerful motives of

friendship and interest, even the most lawful reparations ought always

to stop short of revenge. It is sufficient to undeceive the public,

and to restrain the evil-disposed men, who sometimes conceal

themselves under the pretence of the common good. The said Minister,

consequently, earnestly requests Congress to stop the said

prosecutions, and he dares hope this from the moderation of Congress,

provided that motives foreign to France and independent of the present

affair do not cause this august body, or the Executive Council of

Pennsylvania, to see in this indulgence inconveniences, which are out

of the sphere of the undersigned Minister.

GERARD.

* * *

In Congress, August 9th, 1779.

Resolved, that the Minister of France be informed, that the

resolutions alluded to in his Memorial of the 5th instant will be

published in the journals of Congress, and that in the meantime he

consider himself at liberty to make such use of the copies transmitted

to him, as he may think expedient.

* * * * *

TO THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

Philadelphia, August 11th, 1779.

Sir,

It is with the greatest regret that I learn, that the attempt made at

Martinique to obtain military stores has been fruitless. You will see

the reasons of it in the letter of the Marquis de Bouille, which I

have the honor to send you. Nothing but the impossibility of the thing

could prevent the servants of the King from rendering all possible

services to the American cause, and compel them to delay complying

with the requests of Congress.

I have the honor to be, with the greatest respect, Sir, your most

humble and most obedient servant.

GERARD.

* * * * *

THE MARQUIS DE BOUILLE TO M. GERARD.

Translation.

Martinique, July 11, 1779.

Sir,

I have received the letter, which you did me the honor to write on the

8th of June, in which you inform me of Congress' want of powder. I am

very sorry that the supplies for this colony, which are much less than

they ought to be, will not permit me to furnish any to the United

States of America. The immense and unforeseen consumption occasioned

by Count d'Estaing's fleet, and his unhappy expedition against St

Lucia, have laid me under the necessity of purchasing up all the

powder in the hands of merchants to the amount of fifty thousand

pounds, and you must be sensible, that nothing but the most urgent

necessity could have induced me to go to such expense on account of

the King, at a time when I am in so much want of money. Mr Bingham who

is here, an agent of Congress, will be able to purchase lead of the

merchants. As to arms, they are become scarce.

I have the honor to be, &c.

BOUILLE.

_P. S._ I beg of you, Sir, to use all your efforts, that we may

receive as much provisions as possible before the month of November

next at farthest, and cause them to be addressed to me either at Fort

Royal, at St Pierre, or at Trinite in this Island, and that you would

not let the price of freight prevent you. You will thereby do us the

most essential service.

* * * * *

In Congress, August 23d, 1779.

Resolved unanimously, that a committee consisting of one member from

each State be appointed to congratulate the Minister of France on the

anniversary of the birth of his Most Christian Majesty, and to assure

him that the pleasure, which we feel on this occasion, can be

estimated by those only who have a just sense of the extensive

blessings, which many nations have already derived from his wisdom,

justice, and magnanimity, and of the prospect of general happiness to

mankind through the influence of his Majesty's virtuous exertions and

glorious example.

* * * * *

M. GERARD TO THE COMMITTEE OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

Philadelphia, August 23d, 1779.

Gentlemen,

The manner in which Congress are pleased to express their sentiments

on the occasion of the anniversary of the birth of the King, my

master, is a mark of their friendship and respect for his Majesty.

Your expressions are truly worthy of a faithful ally, and I dare

assure you, that the account, which I shall render to his Majesty of

them, will be in the highest degree agreeable to him.

GERARD.

* * * * *

THE COUNT DE VERGENNES TO M. GERARD.

_In Congress, September 7th._ The President laid before Congress a

paper of intelligence, which he received from the Minister

Plenipotentiary of France, and which is as follows, being an

extract of a letter from Count de Vergennes to M. Gerard, dated

Versailles, June 29th, 1779.

Translation.

"Sir,

"The decision of Spain is public. Her Ambassador quitted London on the

18th of this month; he is now at Paris. Her forces are on their march

to join with ours. The junction made, they will endeavor to inflict on

England a blow sufficiently heavy to force her to acknowledge the

independence of America. To free herself if possible from this hard

necessity, and to procure herself the power of opposing at some future

time a nation, which she will not without great reluctance consent to

free from the servitude, which she wished to impose upon them, it

seems that she has sent two emissaries to Congress with the offer of a

truce, and even with power to withdraw all the English forces, if

America will determine to give up our alliance, and to separate

herself from us.

"I do not imagine that this treachery can even enter into the mind of

Congress, but if they should be enticed by the love of peace, a single

reflection ought to stop it. As soon as England shall have proved the

defection, she can settle her affairs with us, and we shall have no

reason to refuse to do it; she will then fall upon America with the

whole mass of her power, very certain that no nation in Europe will

afterwards take any interest in a nation, which shall have signalized

its birth by the most unworthy cowardice of which a government can be

guilty. I am persuaded, Sir, that this reflection seasonably

presented, will be of great effect. There are many other reflections,

which certainly will not escape your wisdom."

* * * * *

TO THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

Philadelphia, September 15th, 1779.

Sir,

The Minister Plenipotentiary of France has the honor to inform the

Congress of the United States of America, that he has appointed Mr

James Wilson Attorney-General of the French nation, in order that he

may be intrusted with all causes and matters relative to navigation

and commerce. The said Minister thought it proper to communicate this

proceeding to Congress.

GERARD.

* * * * *

TO THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

Philadelphia, September 15th, 1779.

Sir,

The Minister Plenipotentiary of France, who is preparing to depart

immediately, has the honor to request the Congress of the United

States to be pleased, in the course of the week, if it be not

inconvenient, to grant him an audience for the purpose of taking leave

of Congress.

GERARD.

* * * * *

In Congress, September 15th, 1779.

Resolved, That Friday next be assigned for granting a private audience

to M. Gerard, Minister Plenipotentiary of France, in order to his

taking leave.

Resolved, That this private audience be in full Congress.

_Friday, September 17th._ Resolved, That two members be appointed to

introduce the Minister to the private audience.

The Minister being introduced, took his leave in the following speech.

M. GERARD'S SPEECH ON TAKING LEAVE OF CONGRESS.

Translation.

"Gentlemen,

"The King, my master, having been pleased to accept the

representations, which my bad state of health compelled me to make to

him, has permitted me to return. At the same time he has been in haste

to send another Minister Plenipotentiary to America, in order that

there may be no interruption in the care of cultivating the mutual

friendship. I must leave it to the talents of the Chevalier de la

Luzerne to explain to you his Majesty's sentiments, and will confine

myself here, Gentlemen, to expressing to you the satisfaction I shall

experience in giving an account to him of the events, of which I have

been a witness during more than a year's residence with you. He will

perceive in them the sentiments, which animate and direct your

counsels, your wisdom, your firmness, your attachment to the alliance,

and your zeal for the prosperity of the common cause and of the two

respective nations. He will see, with pleasure, the valuable union,

which constitutes the principal force and power of confederated

America, that not only the citizens are in no want of zeal or vigor to

repel the incursions, which henceforth can have no other object than a

barbarous devastation, but also that there is no American, who does

not perceive the necessity of uniting to humble the common enemy more

and more, and to weaken him by efforts proportionate to the importance

of putting a happy end to a glorious revolution, and also of securing

to confederated America, by a firm and honorable peace, as quickly as

possible, the inestimable advantages of liberty and independence,

which form the essential and fundamental object of the alliance, and

of the war provoked and made necessary by England.

"It remains to me, Gentlemen, to offer you in general and

individually, the tribute of my gratitude for the marks of confidence

and esteem, and for the attentions which I have received from you. I

have always endeavored to deserve them by the most sincere and lively

attachment to the interests and to the dignity of the United States,

as well as to the principles and sentiments resulting from the

alliance. I have not lacked zeal for everything that might relate to

them, and cement more and more the connexions, whether political or

personal, between the two nations. The most flattering recompense of

my labors would be the expression of your satisfaction.

GERARD."

REPLY OF THE PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS TO M. GERARD'S SPEECH

ON HIS TAKING LEAVE.

"Sir,

"We receive with much concern the intimation you have given us, that

the bad state of your health obliges you to leave America; though, at

the same time, we are sensible of the continued friendly care of his

Most Christian Majesty in sending a new Minister Plenipotentiary to

these States.

"Great as our regret is in thus parting with you, yet it affords us

pleasure to think how well disposed you are to improve the favorable

opportunities you will have on your return to France, of evincing to

his Majesty the reality of those sentiments on our part, which may

justly be termed the animating principles of the United States.

"By such representations, the King will be assured that the citizens

of these States observe with the most lively satisfaction the repeated

instances of his amity for them; that they regard the alliance as an

inestimable connexion, endeared to them by the purity of the motives

on which it was founded, the advantages derived from it, and the

blessings it promises to both nations; that their resolution of

securing its essential objects, liberty and independence, is

unalterable; that they are determined, by all the exertions in their

power, to advance the common cause, and to demonstrate, that while

they are attentive to their own interests, they as ardently desire to

approve themselves not only faithful, but affectionate allies.

"By a residence of more than a year near Congress, you are enabled to

form a competent judgment of the difficulties we have had to

encounter, as well as of our efforts to remove them.

"Sir, we should be deficient in the respect due to distinguished

merit, if we should fail to embrace this opportunity of testifying the

high esteem, which you have obtained throughout this country by your

public and private conduct. You have happily combined a vigilant

devotion to the dignity and interest of our most excellent and

illustrious ally, with a zealous attachment to the honor and welfare

of these States.

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