_Tuesday, July 8._--We called on M. Théodore Ratisbonne, a man of

about forty-two, with striking Jewish physiognomy, gentle and pleasing

in manner. I was very much struck with his conversation. We said we

came to learn as much as we could of Catholic institutions. 'As for

Protestantism,' said he, 'I believe it has produced good fathers of

families, good morals, kindly social feelings, and so on; but as for

perfect devotion of the heart to God, it seems to me quite barren. But

the soul should not walk, she should fly.' On the worship of the

Blessed Virgin, so called, he said, 'Place yourself in the presence of

Jesus Christ, for He is ever present, He is always the same. You would

see beside Him the Blessed Virgin and the Apostles. You would throw

yourself at his feet; but having done so, would you have no thought

for His mother? Would you turn your back upon her? Would that be a way

of gaining His favour? Or, place yourself at the foot of the

Cross, remember His last words, and how can any Christian have other

than filial feelings towards her? But there is not a child of the

poorest Catholic peasant who would for an instant confound the

reverence paid to the mother of his Lord with the worship due only to

God. C'est une horreur. Elle est une simple créature, une fille

d'Adam, notre sœur; mais elle a réçu la grace d'être mère de Dieu.

Moi, je baise un tableau de ma mère, de mes sœurs, de mes amis; et

je ne baiserais pas celui de la Sainte Vierge? Je fléchis le genou

devant les rois de la terre; je ne le fléchirais pas devant elle?' He

took up a book by a Protestant minister, I think of Geneva, and read

to us with great indignation the account he had made up of a Roman

priest's sermon on the Blessed Virgin--the _adoring_ her, and so on.

He said the Protestant remarks on that subject were full of bad faith,

and were in the highest degree shocking to Catholics. I asked him

about his brother's conversion: he said, over and above the printed

account which I had seen, 'My brother, two hours after his conversion,

was seen by Cardinal Mezzofanti, who was ready to throw himself on his

knees in adoration to God. Nothing was known of my brother at Rome,

and at first great apprehensions were entertained as to what his

character might turn out to be. He had never read two pages of the

Bible, never received any religious instruction whatever, was

altogether of a light and superficial character. The Blessed Virgin

appeared to him as close as I am to you; she made a motion to him that

he should remain quiet under the divine influence. On rising out of

his ecstacy he had received intuitively the knowledge of the Christian

faith. He came and lived three months with me; I never talked with him

as to what he should do; I carefully abstained from exercising any

influence over him. I had, indeed, great apprehensions of him, as to

what his future life would be. At the end of that time I said to him,

I am going to offer mass for you, to know what your future vocation

will be. He replied, without the slightest hesitation or emotion, I am

in no doubt about that. Two courses are open to me: one is to become

a priest and live here with you; we should be two brothers

together,--that would be, indeed, a delightful life: the other is to

enter the Company of Jesus. I do not know what that is, but I shall

become a Jesuit. I was very much astonished. As tu bien réflechi, je

lui dis?--Je n'y ai pas réflechi, mais la S. Vierge me l'a dit.--Alors

je me tus, je ne dis plus une parole. He knew so little what the

Jesuits were; he had so great an apprehension what would happen to

him, that when he left me he agreed that, if he was unhappy, he would

put a certain mark in his letter for me to come and see him. I went

after a time to see him: I found him engaged in cleaning the

dirtiest parts of the house. They had put him on the severest trials

to test his resolution; he surmounted them all, and now, since he has

been three years among them, he has never had even l'ombre de peine.

_I believe that he has more than once received a repetition of the

grace he had at Rome_, but I have never asked him on the subject. His

vocation has been marked out by the Blessed Virgin for the conversion

of the Jews. My uncle is worth from six to seven millions of francs:

he has disinherited my brother, who has renounced every thing. He

built a small church near here: before going into the order of the

Jesuits he distributed all his property to the poor, as is their

custom; previous to his conversion he had never had vision or anything

of the kind.'

M. Ratisbonne, seeing we were greatly interested in all he said,

warmed in his manner, and before parting he gave each of us a small

book; mine is a Catechism. I told him how much I had liked his life of

S. Bernard. 'Ah,' he said, 'you have had the patience to read that.' I

begged him to allow me to call on him again before leaving. We then

went to Miss Young's, where I wrote down as much as I could remember

of our conversation, which had greatly moved me. Thence M. Carron took

us to several booksellers; we also called on M. Galais at the

Séminaire S. Sulpice, and delivered our letter; as he had a

class shortly after, we proposed coming again on Thursday. We then

adjourned to the church a short time, to various libraries, and did

not get home till late.

_Wednesday, July 9._--Called on M. Martin Noirlieu, Curé of St.

Jacques; we found him very affable, and desirous to oblige. Talked

about the state of things in England, and said we were most desirous

to see things as they were, and to get rid of all prejudice. I said

the _culte_ of the Blessed Virgin was that which stood most in our

way; and remarked, how in their litanies to her, after a simple

address to the different persons of the Holy Trinity, there followed a

reiterated invocation of her under many various titles, throwing, as

it were, into the shade the Godhead. He excused this, because in those

litanies her intercession was especially requested, and spoke of other

litanies to Jesus, &c. He also said the Church was in no way committed

to those popular devotions of the Archiconfrèrie, &c. He, for example,

had had nothing to do with them at all; but lately he had had occasion

to preach severely against the idea of any virtue being supposed to

reside in images themselves. He strongly recommended Bossuet's

Exposition, as being a faithful account of the Church's doctrines.

There was strict unity as to dogma, but within that limit there were a

vast number of things which might or might not be true. He has been

curé since 1836; about 300 communicants every Sunday in his

parish, which has 15,000 people. Among them are many Jansenists. At

Easter rather less than half the people communicate; he excused there

not being more by their having _severe_ notions on the subject. Spoke

favourably of his people. Walked with us to S. Etienne; a strange

mixture of Gothic and Renaissance, with some fine features; the tomb

of S. Geneviève, which he said was of the fourth century. Thence to

S. Gervais, a fine church of the latest Gothic, the Lady Chapel of

which has been most beautifully restored and decorated; there are five

painted windows, and four very interesting frescoes by Delorme, of

incidents in her life. The whole church is to be done after the same

manner. The government, too, are going to spend 80,000_l_. in

thoroughly restoring Notre Dame: all the windows are to be of painted

glass. There is a curious pendent crown, wrought in stone, in the roof

of this chapel. M. Noirlieu invited us to be at a "conférence," which

he would hold with some of his parishioners on Saturday, who assisted

him in the instruction of the poor. He left us, and we went to see la

Sainte Chapelle, but were disappointed, as a ticket from the architect

is necessary. Here, too, scaffolding is up, and restoration in full

progress. We then mounted the towers of Notre Dame, and enjoyed for

some time that noble view of the stateliest of modern cities. I

never felt more admiration of this magnificent city than on this

visit: one is ever painfully contrasting the meanness of our public

buildings, and the wretched appearance of our brick houses in London,

with the noble quais and palaces of Paris. These towers themselves are

of wonderful solidity, and evidently built for spires; in truth, they

ought to be double their present height. Here is, however, a great

want of towers and spires in this view, such as there must once have

been at Paris. We took a peep also at the great bell,--an immense

creature. At five o'clock we went to dine with Bishop Luscombe: found

him in his picture gallery, which he took great delight in showing us.

We met here a Mr. Parkes, an American clergyman, who was elected

Bishop of Alabama two years ago, but declined on the score of health.

He is an interesting person. I had a long conversation with him on the

state of the Church in England, America, and France. He, too, has a

strong notion of Roman corruption, but is quite ignorant of their

practice and services, having never read even the Mass. I endeavoured

to persuade him, on the ground of the Church's decided voice, that the

validity of baptism did not depend on the administrator; but he

seemed to think there was equal authority for the doctrine of

Transubstantiation. I said, as to that there were really only two

Ideas on the doctrine of the Holy Eucharist: the one was a real

true objective presence of our Lord's Body and Blood; and the other no

presence at all, but an impression produced by faith on the

individual,--a commemoration, or what not. If we agreed, as we did,

with the Church of Rome in the former view, it was better not to fight

about the mode in which she has stated it, her real intent being to

force a shuffling and evasive party to accept or reject the truth

distinctly. The Church of England, rejecting the Roman definition, has

not herself fenced the truth on the Protestant side, which may make us

more forbearing as to condemning the Roman mode of statement, being,

as we are, entirely of accord with her as to the real truth, which

lies at the bottom of the controversy--the Christian's highest and

inconceivable blessing. He thought that high and low in the Church of

England could not long go on together, and heartily wished we might

get rid of state interference and control at any cost. 'Meet in

convocation,' said he, 'and if you are turned out of doors, adjourn to

the street; suffer anything and everything, but do not let the state

control you.' We walked home with Mr. Parkes: he seems a most sincere

and candid person.

_Thursday, July 10._--M. Galais took us over the Séminaire de

S. Sulpice. There is nothing remarkable in the building. The pupils

are rather more than 200: their appearance is very devout; they seem

of low rank in life generally, and this is no doubt the case,

but with exceptions; for instance, we heard today of the son of M.

Ségur, who is there. Each pupil has a small room to himself, which

opens on the corridor; it has a bed, table, little stove, and hardly

anything more, with a crucifix and little statue of the Blessed

Virgin, belonging to the house. They make their own beds: they are not

allowed to enter each other's rooms at all, but, if they wish to speak

to one another, the stranger stands in the passage, and the occupant

at his door. The whole is under the inspection of the archbishop, who

has a chamber here, but does not often come. There are twelve masters.

The state of instruction as regards the Church is as follows in France

generally. In each diocese there is one or more petits séminaires,

which are for children, not only such as are to be ecclesiastics, but

laymen also. These are the only schools in which morals and religion

are made a primary consideration; and, therefore, though they have

nothing to do with the university, and are excluded from all

privileges, they are sought after by the sounder part of the

community. To these succeeds, for ecclesiastics alone, the grand

séminaire for each diocese; this of S. Sulpice is the most eminent in

France. The studies are for five years; two in philosophy, three in

theology. They are thus arranged, as we took them down from the

lips of M. Galais.

PHILOSOPHY (FIRST YEAR).

Logic, Psychology,--morning.

Arithmetic, Geometry, beginning of Algebra,--evening.

SECOND YEAR.

Théodicée } morning.

Morale }

Geology }

Physics } evening.

Astronomy }

Chemistry }

Sometimes, perhaps in half the dioceses of France, these two years of

philosophy are contracted to one. The three years of theology are thus

arranged:--

FIRST YEAR.

Morale. Le traité de actibus humanis.

" de legibus.

" de peccatis.

" de decalogo.

Dogme. " de vera religione.

" de vera ecclesia.

" de locis theologicis.

SECOND YEAR.

Morale. De jure et justitia.

De contractibus.

Dogme. De Trinitate.

De Incarnatione.

De gratia.

THIRD YEAR.

Morale. De sacramento pœnitentiæ. (Under this head would fall the

whole direction for the guidance of souls.)

De matrimonio.

De censuris et irregularitatibus.

Dogme. De sacramentis in genere.

De baptismo.

De confirmatione.

De Eucharistia.

De ordine. (There is also a special course on this.)

De extrema unctione.

A course of Holy Scripture twice a-week, exclusive of private study

of it.

Authors used:--

Bailly, 8 vols.

Bouvier, Institutiones Theologicæ.

Carrière, De Jure, et Justitia, &c.

Tronson, Forma Cleri.

These three years of theology are sometimes expanded to four.

For the dogma of the Roman Church, M. Galais said, the canons of the

Council of Trent, with the acts of the councils generally, were the

only _authentic_ or _symbolic_ sources; next to this comes

catechismus ad parochos. Bossuet's Exposition is regarded as quite a

standard book; likewise Moëhler's Symbolism. He recommended strongly,

for the interior life, "Louis de Grenada," "Rodriguez," "S. François

de Sales;" spoke highly of Olier's life.

We were greatly pleased with M. Galais' courtesy. He took us also over

the library, which is very good indeed; beginning with a complete

collection of the Fathers, through the schoolmen, down to modern

times: it was arranged chronologically. "He pointed out to us

'Tronson's Forma Cleri' as giving the best idea of their whole

discipline."--_M._ At M. Bonnetty's we found M. l'Abbé d'Alzon, who

kindly took us to the convent of the Dames de l'Assomption, Rue des

Postes. In passing, we looked into the chapel of the Jesuits, in their

house at Paris, which has made such a noise. They are about 20 here,

and in all France 210: and these few, but picked and valiant men, fill

with dread the hosts of the freethinkers and infidels in France; they

know not how to meet them but with persecution. We were greatly

interested indeed with the Dames de l'Assomption. We saw the

Supérieure and a sister, which latter was English. We had a long

conversation, in which she explained the object of their society,

lately founded--to communicate a Christian education to the children

of the higher ranks, especially of the aristocratie de l'argent, who

of all ranks in France are most alienated from religion. The

Supérieure spoke with much feeling and intelligence, and with that

beauty and distinctness of expression which makes the French language

so pleasing in a female mouth. She said they had been much

struck, in their experience, with the mass of knowledge and

accomplishments which existed out of the Church and the sphere of her

influence, or rather in antagonism to her. Beside the usual vows of

chastity, poverty, and obedience, they took a fourth--to extend the

kingdom of the Saviour to the utmost of their power; and the best

means to do this, they thought, was to lay hold of the education of

the higher ranks, and impress on it a religious character. 'This could

only be done,' she said, 'by a religious congregation; for how can

those who live in the world, and seek after its prizes, form their

pupils to the contempt of the world? How can those who work for riches

themselves teach others to live above them? How, especially, can the

children of the rich be strongly impressed with Christian truth save

by those who themselves bear the cross?' 'Religious orders,' she said,

'are like branches which, one after the other, spring out of a tree;

the trunk itself lasts on, but the branches, it may be, after a time

drop off, and give place to others. We do not desire that our order

should last when it ceases to be useful, and therefore we have

strictly provided that it should possess no funds after the

acquisition of the house and garden, which is necessary for our

existence: all that we allow is, that any sister may have a pension

for life--but this is not necessary; if we find any one of suitable

disposition and acquirements, we should be happy to admit her

without any. Besides this we receive payments from our pupils: we

think it more Christian to work for our living; nor would our pupils

be in a comfortable position if they did not pay us.' These sisters

recite _all_ the offices of the Breviary in Latin, but not during the

night, but anticipating them: they rise at five, go to bed at ten;

they attend Mass daily, and have an hour of meditation every morning,

and half-an-hour in the evening. 'But,' said M. D'Alzon, 'you know

that, wherever there are religious orders, there must be one secret

source of strength--intimate union with the Saviour.' 'You mean,' I

said, 'that which springs from the Real Presence.' They all agreed;

and the Supérieure continued--'We could never sustain this life, were

it not for the thought that we were spouses of Christ--that is the one

thought which is the centre of our life.' I said, 'I am sure there are

thousands of young persons in England who would enter into religious

orders if we had them.' She agreed, and said, 'they must not be purely

active, but largely contemplative; there was something pensive and

melancholy in the English female character, which shrunk back from a

purely active life such as that of the Sisters of Charity.' They were

astonished and much gratified when I read to them the Absolution in

the Service of the Sick, which pronounces absolution, by virtue

of the priestly office, _categorically_, not declaratively: they

agreed that it was perfectly Catholic. The demeanour of these

ladies--the four that I saw--struck me exceedingly: it was gentle,

perfectly that of ladies, yet intellectual: like that of those who

felt they had a noble mission, and had courage to execute it. Their

dress also is very becoming--a dark robe with a white hood, and white

cross on the centre of the breast. All their servants take the same

vows, eat at the same table; the only difference being, that they are

less intelligent and accomplished.

In the evening we went for a short time into the gardens of the

Tuileries; I had never before seen the orange trees out there, and the

gay and cheerful spirit of the scene struck me, so much more brilliant

than the aspect of our parks.

_Friday, July 11._--M. was poorly with a headache, so I went alone to

M. Galais at the Séminaire, who sent a young priest with me to M.

Poileau's school, about a mile to the south-west of Paris. There are

more than 300 pupils there; it is the largest establishment of the

kind not in connection with the university. I saw the chapel, which

was very neatly arranged, and the infirmerie, in which was a priest;

there were several beds ranged in alcoves on each side, and some sick

boys in them; a relation had come to see one, and one who seemed by

her dress to be a sister of charity, another. The boys sleep in

dormitories, ranged much in the same manner; it so happened that the

head of the establishment and the next person to him were both away,

and the rooms being locked we did not go into them. We saw a class

preparing for their first communion. The rule of the house is that

they confess constantly, but communion is left open. The boys pay

40_l_. a year each, and the masters receive the same sum, besides

board and lodging. The house was encompassed with gardens, and an

exercising ground, with poles, &c. for the boys; their ages run from 7

to 18 or 19: sometimes the conscription finds them there. My conductor

had been drawn for the conscription, and had to pay 1800 francs for a

remplaçant. He said about forty were drawn yearly on a city of 7000 or

8000; he was the eighty-first or so, but there were so many of those

who drew before him incapacitated from one cause or other, that he and

several beyond him came into the forty eligible. On returning I went

to M. Galais again, as he had invited me, and he talked to me near two

hours and a half. I thought him very well instructed and clear-headed;

he gave me a sketch of the disputes of the Thomists and Molinists on

Grace; and the system of Suarez on the subject, the science absolue,

science moyenne, and science probable of God. The Church holds the two

extreme points; on the one hand the absolute necessity of the grace of

God anticipating, as well as capacitating, every human movement,

on the other hand, the free concurrence of the human will, but she

does not attempt to define, as matter of faith, the mode of their

coexistence. He seemed to think Suarez, next to St. Thomas, was the

greatest of theological minds. Once, in a dispute with a Dominican,

the latter produced a sentence of St. Augustine which told strongly

against Suarez; he kept silence, but when his turn came to reply, he

said, 'That sentence is not in St. Augustine;' the other repeated that

it was. 'It is not,' returned Suarez; 'I know St. Augustine by heart,

and that sentence does not occur in his writings.' They searched, but

were unable to find it anywhere. That evening his conscience smote

Suarez for having said publicly, though with truth, that he knew St.

Augustine by heart, and he confessed himself on account of it. On the

subject of the Holy Eucharist, I inquired whether the Church would

require more than that after the words of consecration the Body and

Blood of our Lord were really and truly present, independent of the

faith of the individual: he said, 'Yes; she would require a belief

that the bread was destroyed, (détruit,) that its substance was

changed, and its appearance, or accidents, only remained, to meet our

senses. There were many opinions _how_ this took place, but none of

them were _de fide_, provided the thing was believed.' M. Galais gave

me much more information respecting the seminary, which I put

opposite the former remarks thereon. It seems to me that no greater

care can be taken to form the inward mind to the duties of the

sacerdotal office, and to exclude all who have not a genuine vocation.

Nothing can exceed the kindness of M. Galais in giving information. In

the evening we went to St. Severin, to hear M. D'Alzon preach: we lost

our way, and were late, and so at too great a distance to hear him

well. He spoke on the Real Presence, the junction of the Divinity with

the Humanity, and the blessings thence flowing forth, rather with

passion and feeling than with deep reflection. His incessant action

contrasts strongly with our quiet manner. I can well imagine that

reading his sermon would be quite insupportable to him, as well as to

the people. At the same time such sermons as Newman's would be lost on

them. I cannot but think that speaking from the pulpit without book

ought to form part of our education.

_Saturday, July 12._--M. D'Alzon took us over M. l'Abbé Migne's great

printing establishment. It contains 175 workmen, and everything is

done therein; binding, stereotyping, as well as printing, and selling

besides. He produces a very large octavo volume in double columns,

Latin for five francs, and Greek and Latin for eight francs: the

former he is about to raise to six francs. His patrology is to contain

200 such volumes of Latin authors, and 100 of Greek: 46 are come

out. The cheapness is wonderful, and necessary for the small incomes

of those who would chiefly want such books, and the execution fair. M.

Migne is a priest, and acts not from a desire to gain, but to assist

the clergy. However, the Archbishop has forbidden him to say Mass at

present.

We looked into the Louvre for an hour to-day, and enjoyed the glimpse

of the pictures: the first time we have so indulged ourselves.

In the evening went to M. Noirlieu, who introduced us into a

conférence de S. Vincent de Paul. About 40 young men present, of the

rank and age of students, who meet weekly; they each take about a

couple of families to visit and assist. This sort of thing exists in

33 parishes in Paris. Here there are about 50 members, in S. Sulpice

120. It is a visiting society, but under better rule than ours; and it

was pleasing to see, as being formed out of exactly that part of

society which is generally most alienated from such works. They gave

us a copy of their rules. "The abbé himself had less to do with it

than I had expected, but I believe he has an instruction in his church

on Sunday evening, especially for the workmen whose families are thus

visited. They conclude the meeting with short prayers, in which, by

the bye, there occurs an invocation of the Blessed Virgin, which all

repeat aloud, and which I did not like to repeat with them, being the

one I mentioned, some time ago, as not being fully approved at

Rome. These things are a puzzle to me. I can blink them for a time,

but when I come into close contact, I feel them again, and wonder much

how they can agree, not with infallibility, but with the wisdom which

I feel otherwise fully disposed to allow to the Church of Rome. This

particular case is _in favour_ of Rome. But then Rome allows and

sanctions what must almost necessarily involve things to which I

cannot reconcile myself. The system of devotion to the Blessed Virgin,

as it now stands, wants some foundation beyond all they tell me of

when I ask them to give an account of it. Perhaps, in their own mind,

they consider that the mind of the Church expressed in her perpetual

practice is the real ground; but for the Church being so minded I am

sure they do not assign sufficient grounds. If such grounds there are,

they must be found in mediæval revelation; at least, I can hardly

conceive mere development going so far with any authority."--_M._

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