CHAPTER VIII.

"I KNOW THAT MY REDEEMER LIVES."[A]

_President Joseph F. Smith on the "Mormon" Doctrine of Deity._

[Footnote A: This discourse was delivered in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake

City, March 16,1902, and by the kind permission of President Smith I am

allowed to reproduce it here.]

My beloved brethren and sisters, while listening to the singing of the

last hymn, my mind reverted to a revelation contained in the Book of

Doctrine and Covenants, and I feel impressed to read a portion of it,

and then make a few remarks concerning it, if I am led to do so. This

revelation was given through the Prophet Joseph Smith, at Kirtland, in

May, 1833:

Verily, thus saith the Lord, it shall come to pass that every soul

who forsaketh his sins and cometh unto me, and calleth on my name,

and obeyeth my voice, and keepeth my commandments, shall see my

face and know that I am.

You will remember that the hymn which was sung by the choir begins thus:

I know that my Redeemer lives,

What comfort this sweet sentence gives!

He lives, he lives, who once was dead;

He lives, my ever-living Head.

It occurs to me that in the words I have just read from the revelation

there is a key given to us, as the people of God, by which we may

know how to obtain the knowledge which is spoken of by the poet in

this hymn--"I know that my Redeemer lives." The conditions are stated

by which we may secure this knowledge. Furthermore, every soul who

observeth these conditions shall not only know that he is, but he shall

know also--

That I am the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into

the world;

And that I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father

and I are one.

This is not speaking of the greater light which is especially bestowed

upon those who are born again; for not every man that cometh into the

world is born again and entitled to receive the greater light by the

gift of the Holy Ghost. Perhaps it may be well for me to make a few

remarks in relation to this distinction between the light of Christ

that lighteth every man that cometh into the world, and that light

which comes after repentance and baptism for the remission of sins.

It is by the power of God that all things are made that have been made.

It is by the power of Christ that all things are governed and kept in

place that are governed and kept in place in the universe. It is the

power which proceeds from the presence of the Son of God throughout

all the works of his hands, that giveth light, energy, understanding,

knowledge, and a degree of intelligence to all the children of men,

strictly in accordance with the words in the Book of Job, "There is

a spirit in man; and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them

understanding." It is this inspiration from God, proceeding throughout

all his creations that enlighteneth the children of men; and it is

nothing more nor less than the spirit of Christ, that enlighteneth

the mind, that quickeneth the understanding, and that prompteth the

children of men to do that which is good and to eschew that which is

evil; which quickens the conscience of man and gives him intelligence

to judge between good and evil, light and darkness, right and wrong.

We are indebted to God for this intelligence that we possess. It is by

the spirit which lighteth every man that cometh into the world that our

minds are quickened and our spirits enlightened with understanding and

intelligence. And all men are entitled to this. It is not reserved for

the obedient alone; but it is given unto all the children of men that

are born into the world.

Gift of the Holy Ghost.

But the gift of the Holy Ghost, which bears record of the Father and

the Son, which takes of the things of the Father and shows them unto

men, which testifies of Jesus Christ, and of the ever-living God, the

Father of Jesus Christ, and which bears witness of the truth--this

Spirit, this intelligence is not given unto all men until they repent

of their sins and come into a state of worthiness before the Lord.

Then they receive it by the laying on of the hands of those who are

authorized of God to bestow His blessings upon the heads of the

children of men. The Spirit spoken of in that which I have read is

that Spirit which will not cease to strive with the children of men

until they are brought to the possession of the greater light and

intelligence. Though a man may commit all manner of sin and blasphemy,

if he has not received the testimony of the Holy Ghost he may be

forgiven by repenting of his sins, humbling himself before the Lord,

and obeying in sincerity the commandments of God. As it is stated here,

"Every soul who forsaketh his sins and cometh unto me, and calleth on

my name, and obeyeth my voice, and keepeth my commandments, shall see

my face and know that I am." He shall be forgiven, and receive of the

greater light; he will enter into a solemn covenant with God, into a

compact with the Almighty, through the Only Begotten Son, whereby he

becomes a son of God, and heir of God, and a joint heir with Jesus

Christ. Then, if he shall sin against the light and knowledge he has

received, the light that was within him shall become darkness, and oh,

how great will be that darkness! Then, and not till then, will this

Spirit of Christ that lighteth every man that cometh into the world

cease to strive with him, and he shall be left to his own destruction.

This is in accordance with the doctrine of Christ as it is revealed

in the New Testament; it is in accordance with the word of God as it

has been revealed in the latter-day through the Prophet Joseph Smith.

God will not condemn any man to utter destruction, neither shall any

man be thrust down to hell irredeemably, until he has been brought to

the possession of the greater light that comes through repentance and

obedience to the laws and commandments of God; but if, after he has

received light and knowledge, he shall sin against that light and will

not repent, then, indeed, he becomes a lost soul, a son of perdition!

The question is often asked, Is there any difference between the

Spirit of the Lord and the Holy Ghost? The terms are frequently used

synonymously. We often say the Spirit of God when we mean the Holy

Ghost; we likewise say the Holy Ghost when we mean the Spirit of God.

The Holy Ghost is a personage in the Godhead, and is not that which

lighteth every man that comes into the world. It is the Spirit of God

which proceeds through Christ to the world, that enlightens every

man that comes into the world, and that strives with the children of

men, and will continue to strive with them, until it brings them to

a knowledge of the truth and the possession of the greater light and

testimony of the Holy Ghost. If, however, he receive that greater

light, and then sin against it, the Spirit of God will cease to strive

with him, and the Holy Ghost will wholly depart from him. Then will he

persecute the truth; then will he seek the blood of the innocent; then

will he not scruple at the commission of any crime, except so far as he

may fear the penalties of the law, in consequence of the crime, upon

himself.

Jesus, the Father of this World.

I will read a little further:

And that I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father

and I are one.

I do not apprehend that any intelligent person will construe these

words to mean that Jesus and his Father are one person, but merely that

they are one in knowledge, in truth, in wisdom, in understanding, and

in purpose; just as the Lord Jesus himself admonished his disciples to

be one with him, and to be in him, that he might be in them. It is in

this sense that I understand this language, and not as it is construed

by some people, that Christ and his Father are one person. I declare to

you that they are not one person, but that they are two persons, two

bodies, separate and apart, and as distinct as are any father and son

within the sound of my voice. Yet, Jesus is the Father of this world,

because it was by him that the world was made. He says:

And the Father and I are one:

The Father because he gave me of his fulness, and the Son because I

was in the world and made flesh my tabernacle, and dwelt among the

sons of men.

I was in the world and received of my Father, and the works of him

were plainly manifest;

And John saw and bore record of the fulness of my glory: and the

fulness of John's record is hereafter to be revealed:

And he bore record, saying, I saw his glory that he was in the

beginning before the world was;

Therefore in the beginning the Word was, for he was the Word, even

the messenger of salvation.

The light and redeemer of the world; the Spirit of truth, who came

into the world, because the world was made by him, and in him was

the life of men and the light of men.

The worlds were made by him: men were made by him: all things were

made by him, and through him, and of him.

And I, John, bear record that I beheld his glory, as the glory of

the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, even the

Spirit of truth, which came and dwelt in the flesh, and dwelt among

us.

And I, John, saw that he received not the fulness at first, but

received grace for grace;

And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from

grace to grace, until he received a fulness:

And thus he was called the Son of God, because He received not of

the fulness at the first.

Glorious Possibilities of Man.

What a glorious thought is inspired in the heart when we read

sentiments like this, that even Christ himself was not perfect at

first; he received not a fulness at first, but he received grace for

grace, and he continued to receive more and more until he received a

fulness. Is not this to be so with the children of men? Is any man

perfect? Has any man received a fulness at once? Have we reached a

point wherein we may receive the fulness of God, of his glory and his

intelligence? No; and yet if Jesus, the Son of God, and the Father of

the heavens and the earth in which we dwell, received not a fulness at

the first, but increased in faith, knowledge, understanding and grace

until he received a fulness, is it not possible for all men that are

born of women to receive little by little, line upon line, precept

upon precept, until they shall receive a fulness, as he has received a

fulness, and be exalted with him in the presence of the Father?

The revelation continues:

And I, John, bear record, and lo, the heavens were opened, and

the Holy Ghost descended upon him in the form of a dove, and sat

upon him, and there came a voice out of heaven saying, This is my

beloved son.

This voice out of heaven came from God, the Father of our Lord and

Savior Jesus Christ.

And I, John, bear record that he received a fulness of the glory of

the Father;

And he received all power both in heaven and on earth, and the

glory of the Father was with him, for he dwelt in him.

And it shall come to pass, that if you are faithful you shall

receive the fulness of the record of John.

I give unto you these sayings that ye may understand and know how

to worship, and know what you worship, that you may come unto the

Father in my name, and in due time receive of his fulness.

For if you keep my commandments you shall receive of his fulness,

and be glorified in me as I am in the Father; therefore, I say unto

you, you shall receive grace for grace.

And now, verily I say unto you, I was in the beginning with the

Father: and am the first-born.

And all those who are begotten through me are partakers of the

glory of the same, and are the church of the first-born.

Ye were also in the beginning with the Father, that which is

Spirit, even the Spirit of truth,

And truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and

as they are to come;

And whatsoever is more or less than this, is the spirit of that

wicked one who was a liar from the beginning.

The spirit of truth is of God. I am the spirit of truth, and John

bore record of me, saying--He receiveth a fulness of truth, yea,

even of all truth.

And no man receiveth a fulness unless he keepeth his commandments.

He that keepeth his commandments receiveth truth and light, until

he is glorified in truth and knoweth all things.

Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light

of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can it be.

All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it,

to act for itself, as all intelligence also, otherwise there is no

existence.

Behold, here is the agency of man, and here is the condemnation of

man; because that which was from the beginning is plainly manifest

unto them and they receive not the light.

And every man whose spirit receiveth not the light is under

condemnation.

For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and

element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy:

And when separated, man cannot receive a fulness of joy.

Man to Become Like Christ.

In other words, the spirit without the body is not perfect, and the

body without the spirit is dead. Man was ordained in the beginning to

become like Jesus Christ, to become conformed unto his image. As Jesus

was born of woman, lived and grew to manhood, was put to death and

raised from the dead to immortality and eternal life, so it was decreed

in the beginning that man should be, and will be, through the atonement

of Jesus, in spite of himself, resurrected from the dead. Death came

upon us without the exercise of our agency; we had no hand in bringing

it originally upon ourselves; it came because of the transgression of

our first parents. Therefore, man, who had no hand in bringing death

upon himself, shall have no hand in bringing again life unto himself;

for as he dies in consequence of the sin of Adam, so shall he live

again, whether he will or not, by the righteousness of Jesus Christ,

and the power of his resurrection. Every man that dies shall live

again, and shall stand before the bar of God, to be judged according

to his works, whether they be good or evil. It is then that all will

have to give an account for their stewardship in this mortal life. The

word of God is spoken to the children of men. It has been revealed

from the heavens. It is extant in the world. It is in force upon the

people. Those that reject it will have to answer for it before God, the

judge of the quick and the dead; while those that receive and obey the

word of the Lord and keep his commandments, as I have read, shall not

only come to a knowledge of the truth, but shall look upon the face of

the Redeemer and shall see and know him as he is. Furthermore, they

will acknowledge that it is through the atonement and power of the

Savior that they are brought again unto life immortal, to enjoy eternal

felicity in the celestial kingdom of God, provided they have been

obedient to his commandments. The Lord continues:

The elements are the tabernacle of God; yea, man is the tabernacle

of God, even temples; and whatsoever temple is defiled, God shall

destroy that temple.

The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and

truth.

Light and truth forsake that evil one.

Every spirit of man was innocent in the beginning, and God having

redeemed man from the fall, men became again in their infant state,

innocent before God.

And that wicked one cometh and taketh away light and truth,

through disobedience, from the children of men, and because of the

tradition of their fathers.

The word of the Lord is truth. You ask, What is truth? It is the truth

that God lives. What more is truth? It is the truth that Jesus Christ

is the Son of God, the Redeemer of the world; that he atoned for the

sin of Adam, and that through our repentance and obedience to him we

shall receive a forgiveness of our own sins, and shall be cleansed

therefrom, and exalted again in the presence of God, from whence we

came. It is truth that God has revealed to the world that except a man

be born again he cannot see the kingdom of heaven. It is eternal truth

that except a man be born of the water and of the Spirit he cannot

enter into the kingdom of heaven. These are the Almighty's truths

that he has revealed to the children of men, and upon these we will

stand. We propose to bear our testimony to these truths, and to declare

these principles to the children of men, as long as God will give us

his Spirit, and we are entrusted with this mission to declare Jesus

Christ and him crucified and risen from the dead, and Joseph Smith

raised up by the power of God to restore the fulness of the everlasting

Gospel and the authority of the Holy Priesthood to the earth in the

dispensation of the fulness of times. We bear this testimony to the

world, and we know that our testimony is true; for we have received of

that Spirit of truth which is of God, and of which Jesus speaks here

through the Prophet Joseph Smith. Therefore, our testimony is in force

upon the world. Especially is it in force upon those who have yielded

obedience to the message of salvation as it has been restored to the

earth and declared unto you.

Personal Testimony.

Now, my brethren and sisters, I know that my Redeemer lives. I feel it

in every fiber of my being. I am just as satisfied of it as I am of my

own existence. I cannot feel more sure of my own being than I do that

my Redeemer lives, and that my God lives, the Father of my Savior. I

feel it in my soul; I am converted to it in my whole being. I bear

testimony to you that this is the doctrine of Christ, the Gospel of

Jesus, which is the power of God unto salvation. It is "Mormonism." But

there is much more that could be said in relation to these matters.

"Mormonism" has been interpreted by one who was inspired to mean "more

good." We have accepted the term "Mormon." It having been applied to

us by our enemies simply because we believed in the Book of Mormon,

and we are not ashamed of it--we are not ashamed of "more good." We

believe in every principle and precept of the Gospel, and in all the

law of God. We believe that every principle is essential. We believe

that we should do our duty to God and to our fellowmen. We should do

unto others as we would have them do to us. We should observe the laws

of chastity, honesty and uprightness, deal justly with our neighbors,

and kindly and mercifully with the erring. We should seek to do good at

all times and under all circumstances. The feeling should predominate

in our hearts that we are here, not to do evil, but to do good; not to

increase error, but to diminish it and to increase the knowledge of the

truth; to make men happy, and to spread happiness abroad in the world

by persuading men to do that which is right. There is no real happiness

in wickedness. There is no real enjoyment in sin and transgression.

The only source of real enjoyment and perfect happiness is in the

observance of the laws of truth and righteousness.

The Lord bless you and help us all to live our religion and to keep the

commandments of God, that we may look upon his face, and that we may

see the Redeemer when he shall come to the earth again; for he will

come, and when he does come again he will not come as the meek and

lowly Nazarene, without "where to lay his head," and without respect

and honor, but he will come as God out of heaven, clothed with power,

glory, justice, judgment and truth. He will come with the hosts of

heaven, and he will receive those who have kept his commandments in the

earth as the church prepared for the Bridegroom, while he will take

vengeance upon the ungodly.

This is not my doctrine; it is the declaration of the Bible, of the

ancient prophets, and also of the modern prophets, who have spoken by

inspiration. I am but repeating their words, and I tell you nothing

new. God bless you and keep you in the path of duty, and deliver us all

from evil, and help us to be steadfast and faithful to the covenants

that we have made, and to the cause of Zion and of redemption for the

living and the dead, is my prayer in the name of Jesus. Amen.

Transcriber's Note

Some apparent printer's errors, especially spelling errors and unclosed

quotation marks where a correct reading was obvious, have been resolved

as seemed reasonable. (The 'scanctity' of the Pharisees was a personal

favorite.)

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