M. HERZOG: It must be on Page 5 of the text which was given to you.

SAUCKEL: Yes, that is correct. That is a statement, a rather abbreviated

statement, probably made by Reich Minister Dr. Lammers. But I should

like to say emphatically that it can be interpreted only in this way: In

those areas, which were very numerous at the time, I could not put into

effect an administration to deal with manpower until order had been

restored through executive forces. This statement, therefore, is not

quite correct as presented here.

M. HERZOG: Defendant Sauckel, you said to us only yesterday that you

were formerly a worker. Did you ever consider that a worker could be

taken to his work handcuffed?

SAUCKEL: No, I never thought of such a thing. I hear now for the first

time that I am supposed to have sent, or had workers sent to their

places of work handcuffed. I do not remember that. In any case, I never

decreed anything like that; that much I can say.

M. HERZOG: On 30 August 1943, you made a speech in Paris to the

Allocation of Labor staffs which you were setting up in France. I give

you Document Number F-816, which I submitted to the Tribunal this

morning, and I ask you to look at it again. I ask you to read...

Mr. President, I think I have made a mistake. I do not think I submitted

that document, and, therefore, I submit it now, under the Exhibit Number

RF-1517.

[_Turning to the defendant._] Please look at Page 10 of the photostat

which has been given to you—Page 38 of the French translation, the last

line on the page:

“The most severe measures for recruiting labor—police action or

the use of handcuffs—must be applied by us in the most

unobtrusive manner.”

That is what you declared on 30 August 1943 to the Allocation of Labor

staffs when they met in Paris.

SAUCKEL: I have not found the place. Will you please have it shown to

me?

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