M. HERZOG: I am reading at the bottom of Page 1:

“The solving of these two great manpower problems demands the

immediate setting up in France of a stronger and better German

labor organization possessing the necessary powers and means.

This will be done by a system of sponsorship by Gaue. France has

got about 80 _départements_. Greater Germany is divided into 42

political Gaue, and for the purposes of manpower recruitment it

is divided into 42 Gau labor office districts. Each German Gau

labor office district will take over and sponsor, say, two

French _départements_. Each German Gau labor office will furnish

for the _départements_ it sponsors a commission of specialists,

made up of the ablest and most reliable experts. These

commissions will organize the allocations of labor in these

sponsored _départements_ according to the German pattern.”

I skip one page and continue reading at the bottom of Page 2 of the

French text. That is Page 3 of the German translation:

“There is no doubt that this projected system of sponsorship by

Gaue for the employment of French manpower in Germany, and

especially the transformation necessary in the interest of

Germany of French civilian workers for the German armament

industries, will bring about enormous advantages in France

herself compared with the present system.”

I am passing to the bottom of Page 3 of the French text, and I read

under “d”:

“The Central German Labor Office in Paris, that is, the

representative of the Plenipotentiary General and his office...”

You told me a short while ago that the German offices for the

recruitment of labor in the occupied territories were not under you as

Plenipotentiary General for the Allocation of Labor, but under the local

authorities. How do you explain this sentence?

SAUCKEL: It can be explained very simply. These men were subordinate to

the military commanders in the labor department. They were sent from

Germany, and they were taken from the labor offices and put into the

administration.

M. HERZOG: You say, “The Central German Labor Office in Paris, that is,

the representative of the Plenipotentiary General and his office...” The

Central German Labor Office in Paris was therefore your representative?

SAUCKEL: The Central German Labor Office in Paris was a part of the

civilian administration of the military commander in France. This is not

expressed in this sentence, for it was taken for granted in this letter

that the Gauleiter knew this. The position as I explained it is entirely

correct.

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