SAUCKEL: No, I have not.
M. HERZOG: It is the document which was handed up yesterday by your
counsel showing the different offices.
THE PRESIDENT: Which chart is it?
M. HERZOG: It is Chart Number 1, indicating how Sauckel’s department
dovetailed with the other ministerial services.
[_Turning to the defendant._] Will you look at Column 6 starting from
the left, the column above which there is the name of the Defendant
Funk? Have you found it?
SAUCKEL: Yes.
M. HERZOG: Would you go down that column, the third square, representing
the armament inspectors? Is it correct that the armament inspectors, as
shown here, were under the Defendant Funk?
SAUCKEL: Under Funk? Which department do you mean, which division? That
is not quite correct here. It should be moved a bit to the side. Later
it was under Speer. It says Reichsautobahn and highway inspectors. That
did not come under Funk. That is a mistake.
M. HERZOG: Do you see the square beside that one, which connects the
Plenipotentiary General for the Allocation of Labor with the directorate
of the Reichsautobahn service. It is the square on the right-hand side,
a little above the others. Should it be connected with the
Reichsautobahn service? Should it not be with the square above,
inspectors of armaments?
SAUCKEL: Yes; I cannot understand how this mistake could happen in this
chart. I have not seen this diagram before. This is the first time I
have seen it; that is a mistake. I did not know about that.
M. HERZOG: And you stated it was accurate without having examined it
beforehand, is that so?
SAUCKEL: I assumed it to be the same chart as the one which was put
before me as complete.
DR. SERVATIUS: Mr. President, when I presented this chart yesterday, I
mentioned that there might be a few discrepancies. These discrepancies
came in when it was being mimeographed. But I did not see the final...
THE PRESIDENT: Dr. Servatius, you can ask any questions if you want to
in re-examination, but there is no ground for objection to questions
which have been put. The questions are perfectly proper.
M. HERZOG: Defendant, you did take part in the conferences of the
Central Planning Board of the Four Year Plan?
SAUCKEL: Only in some of them, when labor problems were being discussed.
M. HERZOG: Will you please tell the Tribunal which of your colleagues
accompanied you or represented you at such conferences?
SAUCKEL: That varied—Dr. Timm, Dr. Hildebrandt, Dr. Stothfang; but it
varied.
M. HERZOG: Who among the other defendants also participated in those
conferences? Can you tell us?
SAUCKEL: I can recall with certainty only Herr Speer as being one who
participated in these conferences. Whether Herr Funk actually
participated, I really cannot remember any particular meeting. Perhaps
he did, and perhaps not. I am sorry I cannot say for certain.