The Commissioner said—Now, I hope all these to all aspersions, anent

change of religion, are declared to be unjust; so, if any change of

religion had bein intendit, this Assembly had never been granted, nor

yet these offers made unto yow. I am entrusted with a full commission

for the preservation of religion, punishing of vyce, and to consider

of all the just exceptions against the Bishops and Episcopacie, and

have power to rectifie all the abuses of that office, so farr as that

sort of government may still remaine in the Kirk, as government not

contrare to the word of God; and anent the practice of this and uther

churches, I have power to limite it so, that it shall not be able

to wrong the church; and, if they wrong it, they shall be punished:

yet, my commission is more ample than I will expresse. But, seeing I

have not found that respect dew to ane Commissioner, and know what

prejudicat opinion these here hes of me present, and, when I consider

what directions were sent from the Tables of Conveiners of Meetings

at Edinburgh to presbitries, be noblemen, gentlemen, ministers, and

uthers, it gives me just occasion to declair, that I can give no

consent to any thing that is heir done; and to cleare what I have said,

I present heir two uther papers, ane sent from the Table at Edinburgh

to presbitries, the uther from persons to their friends, and I desyre

they may be red. I cannot designe the men who sent these papers; but

sure I am these papers are sent, dispersed through the kingdome, and

that mens proceedings are according to the directions of these papers;

for there is not a Commissioner chosen but Covenanters, or, if any

uther be, there is a protestation against him, or else they are chosen

becaus none other could be found. I find, also, ane absolut resolution

to mentaine the lawfulnes of the election of ley Elders, to voit here,

and the election of ministers by ley Elders, and everie thing in this

Assembly going on contrare to the practice of all former tymes and

positive lawes of this kingdome: Therefore, I can acknowledge nothing

to be heir done by the voit of such men. In the meane tyme, I desyre

that this declaration of the Kings will, may be insert in the Bookes

of the Assembly, as ane testimonie of his Majesties sinceritie in

religion, and that he hath no intention of any change in Religion, and

is readie to perform all that is here promised, and what further may

conduce for the peace of the land, and especiallie, that Assemblies

shall be indicted als oft as the affares of the Church shall requyre.

* * * * *

_The Moderatour his Speach to the Commissioner his Grace._

It weell beseemeth us, his Majesties Subjects, conveened in this

honorable Assembly, with all thankfullnes, to receave so ample a

testimonie of his Majesties goodnes, and not to disesteeme of the

smallest crumbes of comfort that falles unto us of his Majesties

liberalitie. With our hearts doe we acknowledge before God, and with

our mouth do we desyre to testifie to the world, how farr we think

ourselves obleist to our dread Soveraigne; wishing that the secrete

thoughts of our hearts, and the way wherein we have walked this tyme

past, wer made manifest. It hath bein the glorie of the reformed

Churches, and we accompt it our glorie after a speciall maner, to

give unto Kings and Christian Magistrats, what belongs unto their

places; and as we know the fifth command of the law to be a precept

of the second table, so doe we acknowledge it to be the first of

that kynd; and that nixt to pietie towards God, we are obleist unto

loyaltie and obedience to our King. There is nothing due unto Kings and

Princes, in matters ecclesiasticall, which, I trust, by this Assembly,

shall be denyed unto our King: ffor, beside auctoritie and power in

matters civill, to a Christian King belongeth, _first_, inspection

over the affaires of the Kirk, _et debet invigilare_ not only _super

ecclesiasticis sed super ecclesiastica:_ He watcheth not only over

Kirkmen, but over Kirk matters. _Secondly_, The vindication of Religion

doth also belong unto the King, for whom it is most propper, be his

Majestie, to vindicat Religion from contempt and all abuses, he being

keiper also of the first table of the law. _Thirdlie_, The functions,

also, are in his Majesties hand, to confirme, be his royall auctoritie,

the Constitutions of the Kirke, and to give them the strenth of a law.

_Fourth_, His Majestie also hath the power of Correction: he both

may and aught compell Kirkemen in the performance of their dueties

which God requires of them. _Fifthly_, The Correction, also, must be

from the Prince, who hath power from God to coerce and restraine them

to his terrour and auctoritie, from what beseemeth not their places

and callings. _Sixth_, The Christian Magistrat, also, hath power to

convocat Assemblies, when they find that the urgent affaires of the

Kirk doe call for them: and in Assemblies when [they] are conveened,

his power is great, and his power aught to be heard—first, as he is a

Christian, having the judgment of discretion in all matters debateable

and contraverted; next, as he is King or Magistrat, he must have the

judgment of his eminent place and high vocation, to discerne what

concernes the Spirituall weill and Salvation of his Subjects: and,

third, as a Magistrat singularlie gifted with more then ordinarlie,

gifts of knowledge and auctoritie; and we heartilie acknowledge that

your Grace, as his Majesties high Commissioner, and representing his

Majesties Royall persone, hes a cheefe place in this reverend and

honorable Assemblie—first, as a good Christian; next, as ye are his

Majesties great Commissioner, and third, as ane endued with singular

graces, and after a speciall manner, fittest for this employment.

Far be it from us to deny any thing that is done to these who are in

supreme auctoritie, or to such as are subordinat unto them and delegat

be them. When Alexʳ the Great came to Jerusalem, he desyred that

[an] Image might be sett up in the temple, which the Jewis modestlie

refuised as inconsistent with the law, which was the law of God, but

libertie offered in their power, and more honourable for the King,

that they would begin the reckonings of the tymes from his coming to

Jerusalem, and would call all the first borne sons be his name. What is

Cæsars or what is ours, let it be given to Cæsar, but [let] the God by

whom Kings reigne, have his owne place and prerogative—be whose grace

our King reigneth and we pray may long and prosperouslie reigne over us.

The Commissioner said—Sir, ye have spoken as a good Christian and

duetifull subject.

The Moderatour said—Indeed we take this to be a free assembly indicted

be his Majesty, and we trust that all thinges in it shall be so

moderat, that the word of God and reason shall seeme to proceed in

everie thing, and that we shall not goe forward ane steppe, but as a

clear light shall be holden out before us; and we trust to make it

evident to all men that we cannot not darre not walke in ane uther way,

and we are hopefull, that such a righteous King as ours is, needs

nothing but to have a clear trueth pointed out before him, and when he

sies it, he shall fall in love with it.

The Commissioner said—I am hopefull that ye will proceed so as ye are

obledged by your oath of alleadgence, and I trust that all his commands

shall be found to agrie with Gods commands.

The Moderatour said—It is our heartie wishe it be so; and we rander to

his Majestie heartie thankes for this Assembly, and we trust that, be

Gods assistance, in nothing shall we pas the bounds of a free Assembly.

My Lord Lowdoun eikit and said—As your Grace hath declaired his

Majesties graceous pleasure, to the contentment of all the hearers, in

condiscending to many points of the petitions of his subjects, for the

which we heir rander, as the Moderatour hath said, heartie thankes; and

we humblie desyre ane copy of the Prelats paper, conteining so many

criminations against us, opposing this lawfull constitut Assembly, that

we may consider it and censure it, and thereafter the giving of it,

according to the word of God and Constitution of this Kirke, may cleare

ourselves of all the imputations layd to our charge.

The Commissioner said—It hath a claus in it, as I remember, bearing

registration; therefore ye may get it.

My Lord Lowdoun said—But we crave that we may have ane copie of it,

with your Graces allowance, out of the Clerks hands.

The Commissioner said—I will not hinder yow to cleare yourself of any

imputation layd to your charge; but I will not suffer yow to goe on in

censureing the prelats as I wishe I might.

My Lord Lowdoun said—We trust that all our proceedings against them

shall be found frie of partialitie.

The Moderatour said—As before I asked if the bookes and Acts were the

rule whereby their faults should be censured, Sir, now I ask if this

Assembly finds themselves competent judges to the Prelats?

The Commissioner answered—If they proceed in the censure of their

persones and offices, I must remove myselfe.

The Moderatour said—A thousand tymes I wishe the contrare; and I

intreat your Grace to heare the voites of this Assembly in this matter,

seeing it belongs to the Assembly to be judge of their Constitutions.

The Commissioner said—I must not wrong myselfe, and much more the great

bussinesse I am entrusted with, if I should argue the question with

such a learned man as yow are; but I thinke it strange, notwithstanding

the exceptions, documents, protestations, and declinatours usit be

me in name of my Master and Lords of the Clergie, that they can take

this matter to the consideration of the Assembly. Surely it is not the

Bishops but the King ye have adoe with?

The Moderatour said—I must yet ask if this Assembly finds themselves

competent Judges?

The Commissioner said—I wish that question mar be deferred this tyme.

The Moderatour said—It is only the fitt tyme to propone this, after the

reading of the declinatour; and I am only a servand to this Assembly,

and can doe nothing at myne owne hand.

The Commissioner said—I can tax your carriage in nothing you have done,

as a wise and discreit Gentleman; but I see now that this Assembly hes

determined to go on for all that can be said; therefore I may no longer

keepe silence, but oppose myselfe unto it.

Rothes said—It seemes that the Commissioners Grace hath exceptiounes

against this Assembly—for two reasons—first, becaus too many ruleing

Elders have voice in it; to which I answer, there are no more nor are

warrandit be the word of God, practice of uther Kirkes, and positive

law of this Kirke; and if that any yet thinke that Elders should not

have voice in this Assembly, alse free as any in former tymes, let them

cleare it be good reason, for we are yet readie to dispute the matter.

The uther exceptioun his Grace seemes to have against this Assembly is,

that he thinkes partialitie will be used heir, and that matters are

determined by us before hand, as his Grace hath laboured to cleare be

his two papers that are red, which are said to come from the Tables at

Edinburgh; but we deny these papers to be ours; and heir I produce the

two verie true papers which came from us, which have no thing in them

so absurd as is said to be.

The Commissioner said—I excepted not agᵗ your privat, but against your

publict papers.

Rothes answered—There came no papers from ws but these two be me

produced; and if any uthers there be, they are only the advice of

privat men to their privat friends; and if any thing be worth the

challenging in these papers, let the author of them answer for it.

And now we crave and humblie entreat your Grace if there be any

exceptiounes against our former proceedings, that they be declared;

for we are verie hopefull to justifie all we have done to the full,

and that we shall be able to defend all as warrantable: for we never

intendit but to proceed according to the word of God and lawes of this

Church and Kingdome.

The Commissioner said—Your refuiseing to give voit in this Assembly to

the Kings Assessours, is enough to prove the contrare, if there were no

more.

Rothes answered—Their voits is contrare to the Constitutions and

liberties of this Kirke, and therefore our refuiseing must not be taken

in evil pairt.

The Commissioner said—That the Kings Majestie hath bruiked the

priviledge of having assessours to voit in Assembly these 50 yeares

past, and why not in this Assembly, seeing our King hes showen such

myldnes and benignes, and hath not uttered any angrie word since I came

to this Kingdome?

Rothes replyed—As we acknowledge that he hath beene a good and graceous

King, so whatsomever is competent to be done to such a King, shall be

done by us, to witt, at his willing, obedience heartilie prayes and

wishes that he may lang and prosperouslie reigne over us; and if we

doe not so, let not Gods blessing be upon us. But we must so proceed

as this free Assembly be not prejudged, nor the liberties of this

Kirk impaired, seeing we must make answer to ane higher judge. If the

privilege craved were in matters that were in our power, we would soone

have yealded; but seeing they are not, I thinke we should be excused.

The Commissioner said—Seeing ye will not give to our King what was

given be our predecessours, I cannot thinke ye will have that obedience

ye speake of.

Rothes answered—Obey we will, in everie thing dew to his Majestie, be

the word of God and lawes of this Kirk, and shall be readie to thrust

out of doores all such as will be utherwayes. But if that which is now

craved was given in former tymes, not by a right law but by a corrupt

practice, and matters were caried utherwayes in his Majesties absence

then they should when many moe corruptions, as now to be redressed, why

not that amongst the rest?

The Commissioner said—It is enough for us to prove that he had

Assessours.

My Lord Rothes said—Let your Grace say that he had be right, and we

shall agrie to it.

Moderatour said—Thinkes your Grace of these worthie and Noble Lords

that sitt by yow, that this is refuised out of any disobedience to our

King, or disrespect to these Nobles, but from a respect to God and his

Kirke, and these Commissions may verie weill agrie?

The Commissioner said—No man may thinke but our graceous King will

mentaine the liberties of his Kirk in all heartie and sincere wayes as

any of his predecessours, and thinke he nowayes intends to incrotche

vpon the liberties of the Kirk at this tyme, but only to defend it

from the oppression of over-ruleing Elders; and yet I tax no man—for I

have no charge to that end; and if I had, I thinke I have a heart to

execute my Masters Command as ane other Man. But our King, intending

only the maintenance of the puritie of religion in a quyet maner; and,

therefore, I desyre that nothing be put in practice in this Assembly

by ley Elders, which hath beene so long out of practice. If these

Elders should have beene pleased that this Assembly should have beene

constitut, after the late ordinar maner, and than have comed in and

claimed their right to sitt and voit here in a fair way, I thinke it

would have beene granted; for what could conduce more to further a

Kings end, and strengthen his auctoritie in ane Assembly, than that a

number of wyse and learned laymen should have voit in it? But becaus he

intendeth only the preservation of the puritie of religion, he cannot

consent that ane Assembly should consist of such a great number of

ignorant men, wanting abilitie to judge matters to be handlit heir, but

desyred only that this Assembly may consist of the Churches owne pure

Members, that so she may receave no prejudice heir.

Lowdoun said—I perceave the maine objection against the voiting of the

Ruleing Elders is yet urged, and their ignorance to judge in matters

that are to be handlit heir; therefore I offer heir to dispute, that

the office of a Ruleing Elder is warranted by the word of God, practise

of uther Kirkes, and lawes and practise of our owne Kirk, and referris

the decision of the question to the Assembly as the only competent

Judge. The question is alreadie dispute heir be Doctor Balcanquell,

and it is grantit from the testimony of the Synod of Dort, that Elders

have voit in matters of faith, and matters of discipline and order;

and where it is objected that these Elders at the Synod of Dort were

learned and judicious men, able to dispute and treate of the greatest

matters in the Latine tongue, and these heir assembled are not such

for the greater pairt, I answer, it is not alwayes men of the greater

place and learning who bring foorth clearest light in matters that

concerne religion. There are heir a number of Gentlemen and burgesses

of the lowest sort, trained up at schooles and colledges, taught all

the grounds of religion, and able to decerne trueth when it is pointed

forth; therefore—seeing be the lawes and practice of this Kirke, such

hath beene in use to voit before, and we have offered to dispute

the matter yet more—referring the decision of the question to this

Assembly, we hope there is enough said for clearing of our power.

The Commissioner said—It is hard for me to make answer for everie

speach of such a number of learned and understanding men. But, as I

remember, Doctor Balcanquell said not that the Elders of the Synod of

Dort had voice in matters of faith.

My Lord Lowdoun answered—It is true the Doctor made a distinctione of

more and les fundamental poyntes of faith. But that Synod did determine

what was more fundamentall and what was less fundamentall poyntes

of faith; and it is clearlie proven that the Elders had voit in all

matters proponed their.

The Moderatour said to Doctor Balcanquell—Let the question be yet

stated and agitat; for the question now in hand is not, whether the

office of Ruleing Elders be warranted by the word of God—which I thinke

none will deny—but the question is, whether the Elders, according to

the Acts of Assembly and Customes of this Kirk, hes place to voice

heir? And if ye, or any, will be pleased to conferre or dispute the

question, we are ready for it. The Convocation House of England

would not be content that any should say, “Your Church is not weill

constitut;” far les can we heare it said to us; therefore we would

be glad to heare what ye have to say in this question; and if the

Commissioners Grace would stay, we trust he shall heare this and many

uther questiones discussed.

My Lord Rothes said—The Commissioner seemes to take speciall notice of

that expression which was in the Letters from Edinburgh, called the

Tables; as if the Letters from these Tables did import a judicatorie;

therefore I desyre to cleare it. When great numbers were conveined in

Edinburgh from the sense of evills lying in this Kirk, and wer joyning

together in putting up a supplication to the Lords of Counsell, my

Lord Thesaurer taxed us for such numerous Convocations, quhilk as

the Convocation was out of love to Religion, which seemed to be in

hazard, and therefore everie man having onie particular interest,

conveened: we answered, that such a Convocation behoved either to be,

or Commissioners in their name; and your Grace desyred that when ye

came to Edinburgh, that the toune might be emptied of such multitudes;

and your Grace ordained that the schires should convene be their

Commissioners: therefore, when the Commissioners from schyres and

presbitries mett, and sett downe, what absurditie is in it, to call

them so mett, “a Table,” seeing it is not called a Counsell Table, or a

Judiciall Table, such as the Prelats called their Tables? If we called

it a Judiciall Table, let us be hanged for it. A taylors table, sitting

with his men sewing about it—so called a Table—or a company eating at

such a mans table, there is no absurditie in the speache; and we did

not call ourselves “The Tables,” but uthers gave it that name.

The Commissioner said—I except not much against the name of Table;

neither have I spoken any thing in passion against it, albeit I be

naturallie passionat; yet I thank God there hes not much passion

escaped me heir. I have no caus of passion to heare these Meetings

called a Table; for there is passion enough at my heart, that I find

so much power at these Tables, and so little at the Counsell Table—for

it is weill knowen, your positive Counsells are more regarded nor the

Kings Counsell Table. But I forebeare to speake more. I could bring

foorth many moe just causes and exceptions against your proceedings,

but I know they will be to no end; for I feare your prejudged opinion

of all that I can say.

My Lord Rothes desyred that his Grace would bring foorth any one

instance wherein any had failed at that Table.

The commissioner said—Ye know that all the ordour from them hes been

readilie obeyed, but little or nothing from the Counsell Table.

My Lord Rothes said—I know neither direction nor obedience given in

any thing from that Table, but according to the word of God, and lawes

of this Kirk and Kingdome.

The Commissioner said—I came not heir to recriminat, and therefore I

pas it.

My Lord Rothes said—Please your Grace to heare the true directions from

that Table; for, in trueth, I never heard of these given in be your

Grace; and, when ours are read, we trust we shall be found to surrogat

no auctoritie to ourselves.

The Moderatour said—If any good success come from these directions, it

is to be imputed to God, and not to their auctoritie.

My Lord Lowdoun said—I would ask at your Grace, what are these

directions from the Counsell Table, which have not gotten readie

obedience from us? For I know none but such as could not be obeyed for

conscience sake, and that cannot be compted disobedience.

The Commissioner said—I know that all my Masters Commands are

justifiable, and such as good Christians should obey; and I thanke God

for his righteous and clement heart.

My Lord Lowdoun said—We think that your Graces labours hes still turned

matters to the better, and we pray it may be so still, till thir

matters be at ane end.

The Moderatour said—I would ask the voits of the Tables, whether you

thinke yourselfes a Nationall Assembly or not?

The Commissioner said—If I could patientlie continow, I should tell

my opinion; but seeing now my loyaltie and faithfull discharge of my

Commission is in hand, I must remove my persone; for my estate is not

so deare to me as my reputation and fidelitie to my Master.

The Moderatour said—We only crave the renewing of your Graces former

patience.

The Commissioner said—I cannot assist nor consent to any thing that is

done heir, except ye adhere to that which ye have heard red, in the

sealed paper; and still I protest that nothing done here may inferre

his Majesties consent or myne, or yet oblidge any of his good subjects.

Rothes said—After many supplications were presented to his Grace, your

Grace was imployed for satteling of matters, and we expected a happie

conclusion when your Grace promised to deale for a free Assemblie; and,

if any just exceptiones were against the Prelats persone or discharge

of their office, it should be referred to the Assembly: And now the

free Assembly is granted, and is fullie constitut. If your Grace, who

is a cheafe Member of it, be protestation and deserting of it, labours

to make this Assembly most unfree, it is more nor we expected. If your

Grace hath any just exceptioun against our former proceedings, or

doth feare that we shall not proceed in such a just maner as becomes

us, we are readie to cleare our selves. In both we shall repell, or

give satisfaction, for bygones, or for tyme to come—the law of God,

and Constitution of this Kirke, shall be ane rule, as it hath beene

hitherto.

The Commissioner said—I attest God, I have laboured as a good

Christian, loyall subject, and kynd countryman, for the good of this

Kirke, laying aside all privat considerations, as I shall answer to

God; and, at my last going to Court, I said to some of my particular

friends, that I should doe what in me lay for procureing a free

Generall Assembly; and now a most free Generall Assembly hath beene

procured and indicted: but things in it are so carried that it is

like to be a most unfree Generall Assembly. For the reasons I have

alreadie expressed, glad would I be to have it utherwayes, as there

is nothing which, can be proponed, keeping my self within the bounds

of my Commission and fidelitie to my Master, but I shall doe it; for I

desyre to [serve] God, my King, and my Countrie. But a weightie burden

is layd on the back of a sillie young man overcharged with a toilsome

bussinesse, and unable to bring it to such ane end as I would.

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