CHAPTER VIII

LABOUCHERE AND IRELAND

1881-1883

When Lord Cowper, the Irish Viceroy, under the influence of the Chief

Secretary, Mr. Forster, represented to Mr. Gladstone in the early

autumn of 1880 the necessity of coercive measures for the government

of Ireland, he found the Prime Minister profoundly opposed to

departure from the ordinary law. The Viceroy was pressed to suspend

the Habeas Corpus Act by every agent, every landlord, every

magistrate in the country. The number of outrages against life and

property had increased _pari passu_ with the number of evictions.

The Land League, which had been formed, under the presidency of

Parnell, the preceding year, had taken up the cause of the evicted

tenants and, by establishing the elaborate system of persecution,

named after its first victim, Lord Mayo's English agent, Captain

Boycott, rendered it almost impossible to let farms from which a

tenant had been evicted. When, on September 25, Lord Mountmorres, a

poor man with a small estate, who could really not afford to reduce

his rents, was murdered, such was the popular detestation of the

murdered man that the owner of the nearest house refused shelter to

the corpse, no hearse could be obtained to convey it to the grave,

and the family had to fly to England. The maiming of cattle, a {166}

method of reprisal constantly adopted by evicted tenants, further

contributed to inflame English opinion, both in and out of Ireland,

against the Nationalist party, who were held responsible by the man

in the street for everything that was going on. Mr. Bright was still

more opposed than Mr. Gladstone to the repeal of the Habeas Corpus,

and so was Mr. Chamberlain, who had joined the Government as

President of the Board of Trade. Before giving way to Mr. Forster,

the Cabinet determined to use the ordinary methods of law, and

prosecuted the heads of the Land League for "conspiring to prevent

the payment of rent, resist the process of eviction, and obstruct the

letting of surrendered farms." The public announcement of the

prosecution in no way intimidated the Land League. The prosecution,

although announced on November 3, did not, on account of legal

delays, begin until after Christmas. Disorder at once became more

rampant and outrages more frequent. On November 23, Cowper wrote

again to Mr. Gladstone, threatening his resignation in the following

January, if he were not given fuller powers. On December 12, he made

his last appeal, urging that Parliament should be immediately

summoned. Mr. Gladstone yielded the very day before the trial of the

Land League began in Dublin, and summoned Parliament for January 6,

1881.

On the first night of the session Mr. Forster gave notice of the

introduction of Bills for the protection of life and property in

Ireland. But the Irish members had taken the phrase in the Queen's

Speech that "additional powers are required by the Irish Government

for the protection of life and property," as a declaration of war,

and commenced the policy of obstruction of which they were afterwards

to make so powerful a weapon. They succeeded in protracting the

debate on the Address for eleven days.

Forster's case was a very simple one. The Land League was supreme,

and its power must be crippled. This could only be done by extending

the range of the executive. With {167} the suspension of Habeas

Corpus the authors of the outrages, who were known to the police,

could be arrested and the course of justice would not be interfered

with by corrupt evidence. It was the point of view of the official

responsible for public order, that and nothing more. Mr. Parnell's

view pierced the surface facts of the case. The League did nothing

but organise and express the public opinion of Ireland. The

Government's policy was simply one of coercion, that is, of violence.

Although it was admitted that wrongs were endured, the Government's

policy did not include any method of redressing those wrongs.

Eviction of tenants who could not possibly pay their rent through no

fault of their own was palpable injustice. Let that injustice be put

an end to, and outrages would soon cease. It was clearly the duty of

the representatives of Ireland to put every difficulty in the way of

the passing of such a measure as the Chief Secretary's.

At this stage of his career Mr. Labouchere was not a Home Ruler. In

his first speech to his electors at Northampton,[1] he had said: "I

really have not understood myself what Home Rule means. I should be

exceedingly sorry to see the Union between Great Britain and Ireland

done away with. I think it is absolutely necessary for the

well-being of both countries, but I am myself in favour of as much

local government, not only in Ireland, but in all parts of England as

possible." He was voicing the views of Mr. Chamberlain, whose

trumpet from the beginning had set forth no uncertain sound, for the

member for Birmingham was then, and remained, unalterably opposed to

the separation of the two kingdoms, and to the institution of an

Independent Parliament in Dublin.

On January 27, Forster's Bill for the Protection of Life and Property

in Ireland having been introduced three days previously, Mr.

Labouchere, speaking in favour of an amendment introduced in his name

to the effect "that no Bill for {168} the Protection of Life and

Property in Ireland will be satisfactory which does not include

protection to the tenant in cases where it can be shown, to the

satisfaction of a Court of Justice, that the tenant's rent is

excessive or that he is unable, owing to temporary circumstances, to

pay it," said that, while he was a genuine supporter of the Prime

Minister, he did not intend to rain down blessings on that

gentleman's head that evening. He found himself occupying a singular

position. He was returned there as a Radical by a very advanced

constituency, and, to his surprise, he found himself almost alone

with his colleague as an advocate of Conservatism in the real, though

not in the party, sense of the word. He was there to defend the

Habeas Corpus. He was ready to admit that Englishmen had many

virtues, but they were somewhat intolerant, and they were curiously

intolerant when any country under their rule ventured to have the

same virtues as themselves. There was nothing they valued so highly

as self-government, and yet, when Ireland asked for self-government

in local matters, they regarded the demand as something monstrous and

intolerable. The Chief Secretary had urged that the Bill must be

passed as quickly as possible on account of outrages! He must

remember that there were such things as standing orders, and that

honourable gentlemen opposite would be able to delay the Bill for a

considerable time.... It was taking a really too Arcadian view of

human nature to suppose that honourable gentlemen opposite would not

use--or even misuse--every standing order of the House to prevent the

passing of such a Bill. The right honourable gentleman seemed to

have thought, in pleading urgency, that the Irish members would act

like the "dilly, dilly ducks" which came to be killed when they were

called. The reports of the outrages had come from magistrates most

of whom were landowners, and from police constables; and they knew in

England how to judge of constables' evidence. (Oh! oh!) He quoted a

return. "Injured persons were Margaret Lydon, Patrick Whalem, and

{169} Bridget Whalem. It appeared that: A dispute arose about the

possession of a small plot of ground, and John Lydon assaulted the

injured persons. Yet, in the very next case, John Lydon appeared as

the injured person, because he was assaulted as the time of the above

dispute by his own wife. This was obviously a little domestic

difference between a husband and his spouse, yet it was converted

into two separate outrages. As regarded cattle maiming, it was no

new thing. Dean Swift jeered at his countrymen on the subject. 'Did

they, like Don Quixote, look on a flock of sheep as an army?'"

Labouchere wound up his speech, after pointing out the danger of the

Chief Secretary's "hideous doctrine of constructive treason" and

animadverting on the idea of making use of secret informers, whom he

regarded as "the lowest, vilest, and most contemptible of the human

race," by stating that the purpose of the Bill was not to suppress

outrages or exclusive dealing, but solely to enable landlords to

collect their rents.[2] Mr. Serjeant Simon retorted in his defence

of the Bill, not quite unjustly perhaps, that Mr. Labouchere's speech

had been more facetious than fair, more humorous than consistent.

Certainly the John Lydon mixed outrage was a hardly representative

specimen of the statistics before the House. The O'Donoghue, on the

other hand, had listened to the speech with great pleasure, and felt

sure it would be received with satisfaction by a larger circle

outside the constituency of Northampton when public opinion in

England and Scotland came to be enlightened on this subject.

Labouchere continued to argue against the Bill in Committee in every

imaginable way. Much of his argument was mere heckling of Mr.

Forster. He was always a little inclined to confuse the floor of the

House with the hustings, a state of mind which sometimes deprived his

speeches of the persuasive value that their argumentative ability

deserved. Every now and then he made a crushing point against the

Government. {170} "The Home Secretary (Sir William Harcourt)," he

said, "had incited a prejudice against the Land League by quoting

what the Fenians had done in America. He had read a speech from a

Mr. Devoy, an American Fenian, to the effect that he had contemplated

blowing up the entire Government of this country, most of the towns

in this country and the capital, and, is this monster, the Home

Secretary had asked, to be allowed to say these things without

protest? He had pointed out the terrible consequences of this

speech: how a certain Patrick Stewart immediately subscribed the sum

of one dollar that these intentions might be carried out.... Such

men as Redpath (another American Fenian) and Devoy, the Right

Honourable gentleman told them, would 'come over to Ireland, and the

Bill is intended for those gentlemen.' Surely," pursued Mr.

Labouchere blandly, "the Right Honourable gentleman was an eminent

authority on international law and must be aware that, if these

Americans were to come over to Ireland, and if they were to be taken

up on mere suspicion and put in prison for eighteen months without

being told, or without their Minister in England being told, for what

they were put in prison, we should get, and rightly too, into

considerable difficulty with the American Government. (Sir William

Harcourt: No!) The Right Honourable gentleman said no. Perhaps he

meant that he would get us out of the difficulty. But would it not

have been better to have brought in an Aliens Bill than to suspend

the Habeas Corpus in Ireland? It was a strange thing to suspend the

Habeas Corpus in Ireland, because an American had made a speech in

America."[3] This characteristic speech is a very good specimen of

Labouchere's method in attack. His manner was one of irresponsible

persiflage, stinging and exasperating those of his opponents whom it

failed to amuse,[4] his matter both sound and serious. It would have

been difficult to have summed up {171} Forster's Bill better than

Labouchere did in the following list of "Alleged advantages and real

disadvantages of the Bill." (1) Alleged advantages: (_a_) it would

drive a certain number of crazy Fenians out of Ireland. (_b_) It

would lead to the imprisonment of certain village ruffians who

probably deserve it. (_c_) It would enable landlords to collect

their rents. (2) Disadvantages: (_a_) It would do away with the

useful action of the Land League. (_b_) It would enable the

landlords not only to collect their rents from men who could pay

them, but also to evict from their small holdings men who could

not--the very thing the Land League had been preventing. (_c_) It

would alienate all classes in Ireland from the English connection.

(_d_) It would substitute secret societies for the open society

called the Land League. (_e_) The Government would be playing into

the hands of the Fenians, who would acquire an influence they did not

then possess. Certainly it would have been difficult to prophesy

more accurately what were the actual consequences of the passing of

the Coercion Bill. He concluded his speech on this occasion by

warning the Irish members not to persevere in a policy of

obstruction, both on account of the prejudice it created against them

and on account of the excellence of their cause. Let that cause be

stated fairly and honestly to the English people--let it be allowed

to stand on its own merits. He believed many people in England were

already very much inclined to take the same view as many Irishmen on

Irish matters. There were many points on which the democracy of

England and Ireland ought to unite. He therefore hoped that

honourable gentlemen opposite would not be carried away by the

irritation of the moment. He hated the Coercion Bill as much as they

did, but he could not shut his eyes to the fact that the Liberals,

not the Conservatives, had done the best for Ireland, and he wound up

with a eulogy in this connection of the "two patron saints of my

political calendar"--Mr. Gladstone and Mr. Bright.[5]

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The Arms Bill--or the Peace Preservation Bill, as it was called--by

which the Coercion Bill was promptly followed, was another target for

Mr. Labouchere's darts. He pointed out the suspicious nature of the

support given by the Opposition to the Government, which delayed the

introduction of Liberal legislation for England and widened the

breach between the Liberal party and the Irish.

Perhaps the most serious and immediate consequence of the Coercion

Act was the arrest of Parnell, which took place on October 13. This

event, which caused frenzied joy in England, was one of Forster's

worst mistakes in Ireland. The Land League at once issued a "No

rent" manifesto. It was signed by Parnell, Dillon, Sexton, and

Brennan, who were all in Kilmainham Gaol, and Egan, the treasurer of

the League at Paris. Forster, not sorry to be able to do so,

retorted by proclaiming the League an illegal association, the

legality of which proceeding was doubtful, according to Lord

Eversley. It had been impossible to convict the League of a

violation of the law and the Coercion Act contained no clause

authorising its suppression. On the other hand, the "No rent"

manifesto was also an obvious blunder. The clergy denounced it from

every altar in Ireland, as indeed they could hardly help doing, and

only in the west, where large bodies of the poorer tenants were

already refusing to pay their rents without deduction, did it take

effect. The agrarian war was consequently intensified, and English

opinion greatly incensed. The local heads of the League were

arrested all over the disturbed areas, and the Coercion Act pressed

into the service of landlords to enable them to collect their rents,

no matter how excessive they might be. Evictions were naturally

multiplied. Most serious consequence of all--and directly traceable

to the ill-advised arrest of Parnell and the leaders of the Land

League--secret societies, with their inevitable accompaniment of

crime and outrage, began to take the place of open and, at least

relatively, constitutional agitation. Parnell {173} had been asked

by an admirer, who would take his place in case of his arrest.

"Captain Moonlight will take my place," was his grim reply. Captain

Moonlight did so. During the months preceding the passing of the

Coercion Act there were seven homicides, twenty-one cases of firing

at the person, and sixty-two of firing into dwellings.

The work of the suppressed Land League was carried on by the Ladies'

Land League under the presidency of Parnell's sister. The ladies, if

they did not actually stimulate crime, did little to suppress it.

When Parnell eventually emerged from Kilmainham, he was furious with

them, both on account of their policy and their extravagance.

Outrages had increased, and they had spent £70,000 during the seven

months of his incarceration!

The Coercion Act had evidently failed to produce the results

expected. Nevertheless, Forster and Lord Cowper could think of

nothing but more coercion. Gladstone refused to accede to their

proposals. He had never liked coercion himself, and his hands were

strengthened by the support of Chamberlain in the Cabinet, who was

energetically backed in the press by John Morley, then editing the

_Pall Mall Gazette_. Meanwhile Parnell, realising that his prolonged

detention at Kilmainham was damaging his cause, entered into

negotiations with the Government by means of Captain O'Shea; and

although Mr. Gladstone was, no doubt, literally truthful in denying

the existence of any formal "treaty," an understanding was reached

between the Government and the Irish leader. The main source of

unrest and disorder in the country was, according to Parnell, the

smaller tenants, some 100,000 in number, who were utterly unable to

pay the arrears of rent due from them, and were, in consequence,

liable at any moment to eviction. The Government must deal in a

generous and statesmanlike way with the lot of these unhappy people.

Parnell, if free to resume an effective leadership, would be able to

do much to curb the criminal forces set in motion by the secret

societies. {174} On May 2, Parnell and his companions were released

from Kilmainham, and Forster and Lord Cowper at once resigned.

Forster made his statement in the House on May 4. It was to the

effect that the state of the country did not justify the release of

Parnell without a new Coercion Act. Just as he had uttered the

following words, "There are two warrants which I signed in regard to

the member for the City of Cork--" Parnell entered the House. It was

a dramatic scene. Deafening cheers broke from the Irish benches,

drowning Forster's voice and preventing the conclusion of the

sentence from being heard. Parnell quickly surveyed the situation,

and, bowing to the Speaker, passed "with head erect and measured

tread to his place, the victor of the House."

Mr. Gladstone answered Forster, saying that the circumstances which

had warranted Parnell's arrest no longer existed, and that "he had an

assurance that if the Government dealt with the arrears question, the

three members released would range themselves on the side of law and

order." Parnell then intervened, saying that he had in no way

suggested any bargain with the Prime Minister, but that there could

be no doubt that a settlement of the arrears question would have an

enormous effect in the restoration of law and order, and would take

away the last excuse for outrage.

Irish prospects had not looked brighter in the House for many a year,

but, unfortunately, only two days after the memorable afternoon on

which Mr. Gladstone dissociated himself from his sometime Irish

Minister and threw himself into Parnell's arms, England was horrified

by a terrible tragedy. Lord Spencer and Lord Frederick Cavendish had

been appointed to the vacant offices of Lord Cowper and Mr. Forster.

The new Chief Secretary and Mr. Burke, permanent Under-Secretary,

were murdered close to the Vice-regal Lodge in Phœnix Park, on the

evening following Lord Spencer's state entry into Dublin. Mr.

O'Brien, in his _Life of Parnell_, says that "Cavendish was killed

simply {175} through the accident of his being with Mr. Burke, whose

death was the real object of the assassins."[6] No one was more

overwhelmed by the tragedy than Parnell himself. "How can I," he

said, "carry on a public agitation if I am stabbed in the back in

this way?"

The House met on the 8th, and Parnell made a short, straightforward

speech, condemning the outrages in unqualified terms. He also

expressed the fear that the Government would feel themselves obliged,

under the circumstances, to revert to coercion. His fear was

justified, and on May 11, the Home Secretary, Sir William Harcourt,

introduced a Crimes Bill, based on previous suggestions of Lord

Cowper.

It is easy to see now that this proceeding was a mistake. It should

have been evident to any unbiassed observer that, far from Parnell

and the League being responsible for outrages, whether agrarian or

political, it was during the imprisonment of Parnell and after the

dissolution of the League that they increased and finally led up to

the tragedy of Phœnix Park. But the Government had to count with

English opinion, which was exasperated by the murder of Burke and

Cavendish almost to the point of hysteria. To most English people

Ireland was little more than a geographical expression; in so far as

it connoted anything else, it bored and disgusted them. Parnell

indicated the true inwardness of Mr. Gladstone's altered attitude in

a speech on May 20, in which he said: "I regret that the event in

Phœnix Park has prevented him (Mr. Gladstone) continuing the

course of conciliation that we had expected from him. I regret that,

owing to the exigencies of his party, of his position in the country,

he has felt himself compelled to turn from that course of

conciliation and concession into the horrible paths of coercion."

Labouchere took Mr. Parnell's view of the situation, and argued with

much zest against the worst features of the Crimes Bill. Speaking on

May 18, on the second reading, {176} he said that it was clear from

the fact that the House was now asked to pass a remedial measure (the

Arrears Bill) and a Coercion Bill that the former policy of the

Government had been a failure.

But the present Coercion Bill erred precisely in the same direction

that the other had done, because it was not aimed solely at outrage,

but was directed at honourable members sitting opposite. In fact he

(Mr. Labouchere) could see the trail of the honourable member for

Bradford (Mr. W. E. Forster) and of his policy in this measure. The

Government ought to try to get the majority of the Irish people on

their side to fight with them against outrage. Was this Bill likely

to enlist the sympathies of the Irish members? Mr. Labouchere

expressed the principle of his objection to the Bill by saying that

as long as political and criminal elements were mixed up in the Bill

he could not vote for it. He objected particularly to the following

features. The "intimidation clause" went too far, being directed

against boycotting, which, although it had its bad features, was, as

a system of exclusive trading, legitimate. He considered it

"monstrous" that the authorities should have power to detain any

person out after sunset. He objected to the clause dealing with the

press, and he thought that three years was too long a period for the

Bill to remain in force. Who could say who might be Lord-Lieutenant

in three years? He could not imagine anything more horrible than

that, say, the right honourable gentleman the member for North

Lincolnshire (Mr. J. Lowther) should be invested with the powers of

the Bill. The consequence would perhaps be, that if the Prime

Minister went over to Ireland, he would be arrested and put into

prison. His admiration for the Prime Minister was increasing, but

all his colleagues were not as well minded as himself. There seemed

to be two currents in the cabinet-- some members who desired to do

all they could for Ireland being baulked by those of their colleagues

called Whigs.[7] {177} Mr. Labouchere worked out of Parliament, as

well as in, for the improvement of the Bill. He was incessantly

negotiating both with the Government and the Irish leaders to defeat

what he felt to be its impossible features and to modify the

remaining ones in the direction of conciliation. He had written two

days before the speech just mentioned to Mr. Chamberlain as follows:

10 QUEEN ANNE'S GATE, May 16, 1882.

DEAR CHAMBERLAIN,--I enclose Bill with Healy's amendments. He says

that what he means in the suggested changes in the Intimidation

Clause is, that only a person who actually threatens a person with

injury should come under the provisions of the Bill. What he objects

to is constructive intimidation.

I went through the Bill thus amended with Parnell. He agrees with

them in the main, but would like to have the opinion of a lawyer with

regard to them. Like Healy, his chief objection is to constructive

intimidation. He says that if the Government will meet him and his

party in the conciliatory spirit of the amendments, he will promise

that the opposition to the Bill shall be conducted on honest

Parliamentary lines, and that there shall be no abstention. He

specially urges that the Bill shall only be in operation until the

close of next session; he puts this on two grounds: (1) That the

Tories may possibly come in at the end of that time. (2) That he may

be able to advise the Irish to be quiet in the hopes of no renewal of

the Bill.

He says that he is in a very difficult position between the

Government and the secret societies. The latter, he says, are more

numerous than are supposed; that most of those connected with them

only wish to be let alone, but that he greatly fears that if they are

disgusted they will commit outrages. The late murders, he seems to

think, were, when agrarian, the acts of men who had a grudge against

a particular individual, and, when political, the acts of skirmishers

from America. I really think that he is most anxious to be able to

support the Government; he fully admits that a Bill is necessary on

account of English opinion, but he does not wish to have it applied

to himself, and he doubts whether it will be really effectual against

the outrage mongers.

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Healy goes so far as to say that if the Prime Minister or you were to

administer the Bill it would do no harm, and that he is not greatly

afraid of it in the hands of Lord Spencer, but that it would be a

monstrous weapon of oppression in the hands of Jim Lowther. I am

sure that with conciliation you can now, for the first time, get the

Parnellites on your side.

This letter Mr. Chamberlain sent to Mr. Gladstone, promising to bring

the draft of the Bill to the House that afternoon.

Mr. Labouchere continued to Mr. Chamberlain on the following day:

He (Healy) points out that even the Conservative newspapers are

against the Newspaper Clause, and he wants it made applicable only to

newspapers printed out of Ireland. With regard to the Search Clause,

he will make a fight for nominative warrants, and he also wants an

amendment securing an indemnity in case of injury done to property by

the searchers. He points out that there ought to be a right of

appeal from the County Court Judge to the Queen's Bench. With

respect to the Intimidation Clause, he seems to approve of cutting

out the definition clause, but is very anxious for some restriction

in the terms of the clause, so that there may be no crime of

constructive intimidation.

There is to be a private meeting at one to-morrow of himself,

Parnell, T. P. O'Connor, and Sexton. He will say to them that he

thinks that Government will agree to the County Court Judges and to

the period of the Bill being shortened. He will, however, before the

meeting, go further into details as regards the position with

Parnell. He is most desirous that there should be no plea for saying

that there is a bargain of any kind. I have told him that, in the

Prime Minister, they have a friend, but that they must take into

consideration his position as the leader of a Government where

possibly all are not as well disposed, and as the head of a country

where there is a popular outcry for stringent measures.

On May 22, he wrote again, after a further interview with Parnell:

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This is about the sum total of what Parnell took an hour to tell me.

He does not in the least complain of you, and really is most anxious

to get on with the Government if possible. He wants me to let him

know as soon as possible to-morrow whether he is to consider that

there is to be no concession.

Parnell says: That the Arrears Bill has been very well received in

Ireland, and that, if it be followed by one making certain

modifications of no very important character in the Land Bill, he is

convinced that the situation will greatly improve, provided that

concessions be made in the Coercion Bill.

He suggests that the Coercion and the Arrears Bill move forward _pari

passu_, and that only small progress be made with the Coercion Bill

before Whitsuntide, in order to give time for the passions to cool,

and for persons to see by experience that the condition of Ireland is

not so bad as is supposed.

If urgency is to be voted on the Coercion Bill, he asks that it

should be voted by a simple majority, and that it should be stated

that it will be used whenever any Legislative measures in regard to

Ireland are brought forward during the Session and obstructed by the

Conservatives.

He greatly regrets the speech of Davitt, but says that he (Davitt)

has no intention to go to Ireland, and that his land scheme is a

little fad of his own.

He says that he is most anxious for a _modus vivendi_, and believes

that if the present opportunity for establishing one be let pass, it

is not likely to recur. He and his friends, he says, are incurring

the serious risk of assassination in their efforts to bring it about,

and he thinks that his suggestions ought to be judged on their

merits, but that, with the Coercion Act as it is, there will be so

much anger and ill-feeling in Ireland, that all alliance with the

Liberal party will be impossible.

He points out, not as a matter of bargain, but as a fact, that the

Liberals may--if only there be concessions on the Coercion Bill, and

a few modifications in the Land Bill--count on the Irish vote, as

against the Conservatives, and suggests that this will make the

Government absolutely safe, even though there be Whig defections.

Mr. Labouchere continued, as will be seen by the following {180}

letters to Mr. Chamberlain, to press the views of the Irish leaders

upon the Government.

10 QUEEN ANNE'S GATE, June 3, 1882.

DEAR CHAMBERLAIN,--We have done our best during your absence to hold

our own against Harcourt. The only important issue yet raised has

been the exclusion of treason and treason felony from the Bill.

On Thursday I went to Grosvenor from Parnell to ask that the debate

should be adjourned. Gladstone said that Parnell ought to consider

that after Harcourt's "no surrender" speech the Government would not

be able to give in the next day, and that the division if taken would

be larger on Thursday than on Friday, and that the matter might be

reconsidered in Report. I said that if Government would give any

private assurance, or if Gladstone would say in the House, that the

exclusion would be favourably considered on Report, he could have the

division at once. This latter he was afraid to do, for Harcourt, as

sulky as a bear, was glaring at him. He therefore agreed to consent

"with regret" to the adjournment. When, however, Parnell moved it,

our idiots and the Conservatives shouted so loudly "no," that a

division had to be taken. Then Healy moved it, on which Gladstone

did hint at the Report, but said nothing definite, except that it

would be impossible to consult at once with the Irish Executive. The

next day, Grosvenor wrote to me to say that he spoke without

prejudice and held out no hope, but would I call "Parnell's attention

to one sentence in one of Gladstone's concluding speeches, which was

to the effect that it was impossible to call the attention of the

Irish Government to the question of omitting treason and treason

felony, between last night and this day, and therefore it would be

better to bring up the question again on Report. Please ask Parnell

to consider this fact."

On Friday morning the Irish held a meeting, and they agreed to keep

what they did secret, decided that if treason were retained, at least

treason felony should be eliminated.

On the House meeting Trevelyan tackled me, and said: "I am opposed to

the insertion of treason and treason felony, and {181} I am disposed

to make large concessions. You know that I am a person of strong

will. I now understand the Bill, and you will see how I shall act."

Grosvenor also said that I need not believe him, as he quite agreed

with me, but that Harcourt was the difficulty. I asked him whether

he would agree that if Lord Spencer said that treason and treason

felony were not needed, they should be struck out on Report. He

replied that the onus could not be thrown on Spencer, but that it

must be the act of the Cabinet.

So after seeing Parnell it was agreed that the division should be

taken at 7.30.

Why Parnell is making such a fight over this, and will make a fight

over the Intimidation Clause, is that unless concession be made, he

will find it difficult to hold his own. Egan, he says, wants to

carry on the agitation from Paris, in which case it will be illegal;

he wants to carry it on in Dublin, in which case it will be legal.

If concessions are made he will have his way; if not, Egan will

remain the master in Paris.

Grosvenor quite admits that it is most desirable to aid Parnell to

remain leader.

Parnell says:

"I ask, in order to put an end definitely to the land agitation: that

a clause should be introduced into the Arrears Bill, allowing small

tenants in the Land Court to pay on Griffiths' valuation until their

cases are decided: that there should be an expansion of the Bright

Clauses next year if not this; and that a Royal Commission be

appointed to keep the agricultural labourers quiet by taking

evidence. Then I propose to ask for a fair and reasonable measure of

local self-government, such as an English Government can grant," and

he assures me that in all questions between me and the Conservatives

and the Liberals, the latter shall have the Irish vote. I believe

that he is perfectly sincere, and that he is thoroughly frightened by

threats of assassination; indeed he told me that he never went about

without a revolver in his pocket, and even then did not feel safe.

I write you all this for your private information, as you may wish to

know the exact situation at present.--Yours truly,

H. LABOUCHERE.

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REFORM CLUB, June 8, 1882.

DEAR CHAMBERLAIN--Parnell says that it is absolutely necessary that

something should be understood, and that if no concession be made on

the Intimidation Clause, he considers that things revert to where

they were under the Forster regime, and that they will fight until

urgency is voted and then fight on urgency until a _coup d'état_ is

carried out. Allowing for some exaggeration, a simple consideration

of his position towards his party shows that this programme is

necessarily forced upon him.

Surely we have a right to see the clause as Government will agree to

it, before passing a portion of it.

I believe that this would be agreed to: that intimidation shall mean

any threats, etc., to violence, any boycotting which involves danger

such, for instance, as a doctor refusing to attend a sick man, or a

refusal to supply the necessaries of life, and any specific act that

is set out in the Bill, but _nothing more_.

C. Russell, Bryce, and Davy are trying their hands at this and hope

to be able to frame a clause on these lines. You will no doubt see

that, if something cannot be done to-morrow, the fat will be in the

fire. Would it not therefore be well to leave the clause until the

other clauses are passed, and then bring it on?--Yours truly,

H. LABOUCHERE.

10 QUEEN ANNE'S GATE, June 9, 1882.

DEAR CHAMBERLAIN,--I wrote you a line in a great hurry last night,

but after the House had adjourned I again saw Parnell.

He is most anxious that Mr. Gladstone should not think that

obstruction arises from any ill-feeling towards him, and that he does

not, in his own interests, wish it to be thought that anything in the

nature of a bargain is to be made.

But he wants Mr. Gladstone to know facts. He says that there are two

sections in the Land League. The funds of the League are at Paris,

where a large sum is invested in securities. Egan wishes to trench

on these securities, but Parnell and Davitt have been able to stop

this, and at present nothing is expended but the weekly

contributions. Egan and his section of the League are furious at the

idea of the League being converted into a moderate tenant right

Association, with its headquarters {183} in Dublin. This he desires.

Every day the ultras of his party are telling him that nothing is

gained by conciliation. If the Bill is to be passed in its present

shape, he declares that neither he nor his friends can have anything

to do with a moderate policy, and, as they absolutely decline to

associate themselves with Egan and his desperate courses, they must

withdraw.

The result, he says, will be that the Fenians will be masters of the

situation, that they will have funds, and that there will be

assassinations and outrages all over Ireland. So soon as he

withdraws, he considers that his own life will not be worth a day's

purchase.

If he is able to head the tenant right Association, he considers that

he can crush out the Fenians--more especially if something is done in

the Arrears Bill to meet the difficulty of the small tenants, who are

waiting for their cases to be decided on in the Land Courts, being

evicted, before their cases come on, for non-payment of excessive

rents. If nothing be done in this matter, and if he be allowed to

have his tenant right Association, this he says will be his great

difficulty next winter. He wishes Mr. Gladstone to observe that

Davitt has not made any speeches in Ireland, and he says that he

obtained this pledge from him in order to show the result of

conciliation. He disagrees entirely with Davitt's "nationalisation"

of land scheme, and says that the Irish tenants do not themselves

desire it.

He again suggests whether it would not be possible to insert

limitations in the Intimidation Clause? And he would suggest that,

if possible, it would be desirable to leave the clause as it stands,

without any definition section, and to say that, as there is no

desire to prevent an orderly and legal tenant right Association,

additions will be made to the clause on Report, defining all this.

As regards the tribunal, he hopes that Mr. Gladstone will agree to a

proviso, making the Court consist of a magistrate and a barrister.

This he thinks will render it more easy to accept the intimidation

clause with the limitations that he suggests, for many of the

resident magistrates are half-pay captains, who have been appointed

by interest, and who are hand in glove with the landlords, and some

of them are certain to act foolishly.

If this be accepted, if unlawful associations are made there {184}

which the Lord Lieutenant declares to be unlawful; if it be made a

crime to not attend an unlawful assembly, but to riot at, or to

refuse to retire if called upon to do so from an unlawful assembly, I

do not think that he attaches very great importance to the duration

of the Act, although he still says that he does, but he would be

satisfied if the duration of the Act were for three years with the

proviso that the Lord Lieutenant has to prolong it (if it is

prolonged) by a proclamation at the end of each year. He is anxious

for this, because he thinks that he could do much for the cause of

law and order, if he were able to point out that possibly the Act

would not run for the whole three years, if the Irish are quiet and

peaceable.

His main anxiety at the present moment seems to be, that Mr.

Gladstone should understand the position of the Land League and of

its leaders. He wishes most sincerely to fight with the Government

against all outrages, and he complains that his good intentions are

met every moment by a _non possumus_ of lawyers, who seem to regard

it as a matter of _amour propre_ not to listen to him, and he says

(and I am sure he believes it) that the result will be murders and

outrages which will end in martial law.--Yours truly, H. LABOUCHERE.

P.S.--With regard to supply, he says that he thinks it a little hard,

that he should be asked not to obstruct one Bill, because the

Conservatives will obstruct another, and he suggests that Supply

might be taken before the Report on the Bill now under discussion,

with some sort of understanding that the Irish would not put down

notices on going into Committee of Supply. But on this matter, he

says that he is certain that if Mr. Gladstone will fairly look into

his suggestions, he will see their force, and he still hopes that all

obstruction, etc., etc., may be avoided.

10 QUEEN ANNE'S GATE, June 10, 1882.

DEAR CHAMBERLAIN,--As it seems to be understood that Harcourt had

stated in the House his readiness to accept the amendment which I

gave you yesterday, Healy has put it down.

As regards "unlawful," which was negatived last night, I explained to

Healy that it was impossible to make the limitation on account of

legal and technical difficulties, and he fully accepted this

explanation.

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With regard to the two limitations which stand in Parnell's name, and

which they ask for, I told Healy that the wording of the limitations

could not be used, as it would have a bad effect to say in an Act

that the non-payment of rent is not an offence. To this he assented,

and is quite ready to accept any words, taken from the Act of '75 or

from anywhere else, which will cover the limitations. Would it not

be as well to have the words ready, and to let Parnell have them, or

at least to be ready with the substituted words when Parnell's

amendment comes on?

There is a clause about exclusive dealing. When the suggestions

which I submitted to you were being discussed by Parnell and Healy,

they were very anxious to include Davy's amendment in regard to

exclusive dealing, substituting for "dealing with"--"buying," by

which they would have excluded a refusal to buy from Boycotting. I

got them to say that this was not to be pressed if Government

declined to accept the amendment, so I did not trouble you with it.

Late last evening Parnell wanted to insist on it, so I appealed to

Healy. He said that they were bound not to insist on more than had

been submitted to you, as this would not be honourable, and therefore

all trouble on this head is avoided.

Of course they will in the House divide on some amendment in regard

to exclusive dealing, as a protest, and they may make one or two

speeches, but there will be no obstruction, and I see no reason why

the Bill should not be through Committee (notwithstanding Goschen's

gloomy prognostications) in a few days.

It would, I think, very much tend to aid matters if Harcourt could in

the course of discussion state, that in all cases a barrister will

sit with a residential magistrate. He has already said that there

will be an appeal to Quarter Sessions, which in Ireland means an

appeal to the County Court Judge. But some of the residential

magistrates are very foolish persons, and all are regarded as men in

the landlords' camp.

Also, is it not possible to arrive at some clear definition as to

what is an unlawful association? Parnell says that it is left now to

any residential magistrate to decide the matter. He suggests that

only such associations shall be unlawful, for the purpose of the Act,

which are proclaimed as such by the Lord Lieutenant. {186} But

provided that there be a clear definition, he does not care for any

particular wording.

Parnell and Healy request me to say that they are very grateful to

Mr. Gladstone for meeting them half-way, and they seem only now

anxious about "treason felony." As Herschell told me that he thinks

everything necessary will be covered by the word "treason," I hope

that this matter will also be settled satisfactorily.--Yours truly,

H. LABOUCHERE.

P.S.--Parnell would not like any one but you and Mr. Gladstone to

know about his dispute with Egan, and the embargo on the League

funds, except in a very general way.

10 QUEEN ANNE'S GATE, June 24, 1882.

DEAR CHAMBERLAIN,--I saw Parnell, and spoke to him as you wished.

His answer is practically this:

"I acknowledge that Mr. Gladstone and Mr. Chamberlain have acted

fairly, and so far as I can I should always be ready to meet their

wishes. But I deny that we have obtained the concessions that we

expected. I am not prepared to go back to Ireland and engage in

bringing the agitation within constitutional limits, on the mere

chance of Lord Spencer not arresting me. The Fenians want one thing:

the Ladies' League another: the people in Paris (Egan) another: and I

another. Therefore I shall limit my action to Parliament and leave

the Government and the Fenians to fight it out in Ireland. The

Cabinet do not seem to realise that the Crimes Bill is a very complex

one, and very loosely drawn up. There has been no obstruction in the

proper sense of the word, although I admit that the Irish have

repeated again and again the same arguments on amendments. But this

I cannot help, unless I tell them that they will get something by

holding their tongues. When the Conservatives threatened obstruction

on Procedure, this was met by telling them that the majority

resolution would not be pressed if they would facilitate business.

Why should not the same arrangement be made with us? Let us know

what amendments will be accepted in future. I am most anxious to

carry out what I understood was the contemplated policy when I was

released from {187} Kilmainham, and to work with the Government in

bringing the active phase of Irish agitation to a close. But this I

cannot do if I am suspected of ulterior objects, and if I cannot show

that something is gained for my party."

He then suggested that if the Government would take their November

Session for alterations in the Land Act, he would do his best to

facilitate business now in regard to the Crimes, and the Arrears

Bill, and the Procedure Resolutions, provided that the majority

Resolution were maintained.

I asked him what he really wanted under the term of alterations in

the Land Act?

He said: "To go back to the system of reductions in rent which was

acted on before the Stuart Donleathcase, and to extend the Bright

clauses in the sense of W. H. Smith's resolution."

Finally, I again urged him to remember what Mr. Gladstone and you had

done for him already, and to see whether he could not manage to bring

the Committee Stage of the Bill to an end within a reasonable time.

On Monday, Sexton proposes to cut Chaplin out by bringing forward a

resolution about the suspects. Parnell says that this is absolutely

necessary, because he and his friends are blamed for only caring for

their own release. But Sexton will say that he only does this,

because it is a choice between his resolution and Chaplin's, and

there will be no talking to hinder the Government from getting their

money, or with the object of obstructing.

I have got to go to Northampton on Monday, so I shall not be in the

House until late.--Yours truly,

H. LABOUCHERE.

When the Crimes Act was finally passed, Mr. Labouchere expressed

himself in _Truth_ as follows:

When Mr. Parnell was released from Kilmainham, it was understood that

the Land Act would be amended, that evictions would be stopped by an

Arrears Bill, and that the leaders of the land movement would be

permitted to agitate within fair legal limits in favour of the

political and social changes desired by their countrymen. Had this

understanding been carried out, the breach between the Parnellites

and the Liberals would have been healed.

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Mr. Forster was the first to perceive that as a result of a _modus

vivendi_ he would have to disappear with his policy of coercion. He

therefore resigned, in the hope that this would render it impossible

to carry out the Kilmainham compact. Then followed the murder of

Lord Frederick Cavendish. The horror which this created was

skilfully used by the Whigs in the Cabinet, and they succeeded in

promoting a Bill, not so much aimed at outrages as at the Kilmainham

compact. This Bill is a complete codification of arbitrary rule. It

places the lives, liberties, and property of the Irish in the hands

of the Executive, and seeks to suppress every species of political

agitation.

Unfortunately, Mr. Trevelyan was awaiting his re-election when it was

introduced, and it was left to Sir William Harcourt to carry it

through the House of Commons. Of course, as Sir William is the

head-centre of the Whigs, he delighted in his task. Not only did he

refuse every modification of the Bill, except those which were

rendered absolutely necessary by the absurd way in which it was

drawn, but almost every day he envenomed discussion by transpontine

outbursts against the Irish members. I do not blame him. I blame no

one who plays his cards to his own best advantage. This is human

nature. Sir William knew that if the English Radicals and the Irish

were allied, he and his Whigs would lose all influence, whilst of

Ireland he knew absolutely nothing.

The result, therefore, has been that the Whigs triumph, and that

several weeks have been wasted in passing a Bill which will do

nothing to hinder outrages, but which will simply increase the

ill-feeling between England and Ireland.

If the leaders of the land movement are wise, they will not endeavour

to hold meetings. They should declare that public meeting has been

rendered impossible by the Crimes Act; and they should, as an act of

charity, collect funds to aid all who have been evicted, no matter

from what cause, and thus band the Irish tenants together in a

friendly society. At the same time, they should devote all their

energies to increase their numbers in the next Parliament, and they

should submit test questions to every Liberal standing for an English

constituency where there are Irish voters, and make these votes

dependent upon the manner in which the questions are answered. If

Mr. Parnell can {189} hold the balance in Parliament between the

rival aspirants for the Treasury Bench, he may be certain that any

just demand that he may make will be granted. The democracy of

England and Ireland, with Mr. Gladstone at their head, would make

short work of Conservative and Whig obstructive trash. The landlords

in Ireland and the Whigs in England stand in the way of peace and

tranquillity in the former island, and of mutual good feeling in

both.[8]

To quote Mr. Labouchere's views on Ireland during the dark and gloomy

period which followed the introduction of the Prevention of Crimes

Bill is to quote Mr. Chamberlain's, for, as is seen by their constant

correspondence, the two were one in their views on Irish discontent.

Mr. Chamberlain made a speech at Swansea in February, 1883, in which

he asked his audience how long they supposed Englishmen with their

free institutions would tolerate the existence of an Irish Poland so

near to their own shores. Was separation the only alternative? He

thought not. Separation, in his opinion, would "jeopardise the

security of this country, and would be fatal to the prosperity and

happiness of Ireland." He, like Labouchere, was prepared to relax

the bond, even by conceding what was then known as Home Rule, which

would not include an independent Parliament or a separate

executive.[9]

However, in 1883 and 1884, Englishmen had other things to occupy

their minds than the rights and wrongs of Ireland. In order to

follow the political career of Mr. Labouchere we must for a time

leave the Irish question and consider "the policy of Gladstone's

Government in Egypt."

[1] _Northampton Mercury_, March 27, 1880.

[2] _Hansard_, Jan. 27, 1881, vol. 257.

[3] _Hansard_, Feb. 25, 1881, vol. 258.

[4] To their credit, be it said, they generally were amused.

[5] _Hansard_. Feb. 25, 1881, vol. 258.

[6] R. Barry O'Brien, _Life of Parnell_.

[7] _Hansard_, May 14, 1881.

[8] _Truth_, July 6, 1882.

[9] S. H. Jeyes, _Mr. Chamberlain_.

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