4. For goods sold and delivered. 3. Wilson, 206.

5. On book debts, open accounts, or simple contracts. 3 Ch. Rep. 64.

Freem. Ch. Rep. 133. Dougl. 376.

6. For money lent without a note. 2 Stra. 910.

7. On an inland bill of exchange, if no protest is taken. 2 Stra. 910.

8. On a bond after 20 years. 2 Vern. 458, or after a tender.

9. On decrees in certain cases. Freem. Ch. Rep. 181.

10. On judgments in certain cases, as battery and slander. Freem. Ch. Rep.

37.

11. On any decrees or judgments in certain courts, as the exchequer

chamber. Douglass, 752.

12. On costs. 2 Abr. Eq. 530, 7.

And we may add, once for all, that there is no instrument or title to

debt, so formal and sacred, as to give a right to interest on it, under

all possible circumstances--the words of Lord Mansfield, Dougl. 753, where

he says: "That the question was, what was to be the rule for assessing

the _damage_, and that, in this case, the _interest_ ought to be the

_measure of the damage_, the action being for a _debt_, but that, in a

case of another sort, _the rule might be different_:" his words, Dougl.

376, "That interest might be payable in cases of delay, if a jury, _in

their discretion_, shall think fit to allow it." And the doctrine in Giles

v. Hart. 2 Salk. 622, that damages, or interest, are but an accessary to

the debt, which may be barred by circumstances, which do not touch the

debt itself, suffice to prove that interest is not a part of the debt,

neither comprehended in the thing, nor in the term; that words, which pass

the debt, do not give interest necessarily; that the interest _depends

altogether on the discretion of the judges and jurors_, who will govern

themselves by all existing circumstances, will take the legal interest

for the measure of their damages, or more or less, as they think right;

will give it from the date of the contract, or from a year after, or deny

it altogether, according as the fault or the sufferings of the one or

the other party shall dictate. Our laws are, generally, an adoption of

yours, and I do not know that any of the States have changed them in this

particular. But there is one rule of your and our law, which, while it

proves that every title of debt is liable to a disallowance of interest

under special circumstances, is so applicable to our case, that I shall

cite it as a text, and apply it to the circumstances of our case. It is

laid down in Vin. Abr. Interest. c. 7, and 2 Abr. Eq. 5293, and elsewhere,

in these words: "Where, by a _general and national calamity_, nothing is

made out of lands which are assigned for payment of interest, it ought not

to run on _during the time of such calamity_." This is exactly the case in

question. Can a more _general national calamity_ be conceived, than that

universal devastation which took place in many of these States during war?

Was it ever more exactly the case anywhere, _that nothing was made out of

the lands which were to pay the interest_? The produce of those lands, for

want of the opportunity of exporting it safely, was down to almost nothing

in real money, e. g. tobacco was less than a dollar the hundred weight.

Imported articles of clothing for consumption were from four to eight

times their usual price. A bushel of salt was usually sold for 100 lbs.

of tobacco. At the same time, these lands, and other property, in which

the money of the British creditor was vested, were paying high taxes for

their own protection, and the debtor, as nominal holder, stood ultimate

insurer of their value to the creditor, who was the real proprietor,

because they were bought with his money. And who will estimate the value

of this insurance, or say what would have been the forfeit, in a contrary

event of the war? Who will say that the risk of the property was not worth

the interest of its price? _General calamity_, then, prevented profit and,

consequently, stopped interest, which is in lieu of profit. The creditor

says, indeed, he has laid out of his money; he has therefore lost the

use of it. The debtor replies, that, if the creditor has lost, he has

not gained it; that this may be a question between two parties, both of

whom have lost. In that case, the courts will not double the loss of the

one, to save all loss from the other. That it is a rule of natural as

well as municipal law, that in questions "de damno evitando melior est

conditio possidentis." If this maxim be just, where each party is equally

innocent, how much more so, where the loss has been produced by the act

of the creditor? For, a nation, as a society, forms a moral person, and

every member of it is personally responsible for his society. It was the

act of the lender, or of his nation, which annihilated the profits of the

money lent; he cannot then demand profits which he either prevented from

coming into existence, or burnt, or otherwise destroyed, after they were

produced. If, then, there be no instrument, or title of debt so formal

and sacred as to give right to interest under all possible circumstances,

and if circumstances of exemption, stronger than in the present case,

cannot possibly be found, then no instrument or title of debt, however

formal or sacred, can give right to interest under the circumstances

of our case. Let us present the question in another point of view. Your

own law forbade the payment of interest, when it forbade the receipt of

American produce into Great Britain, and made that produce fair prize on

its way from the debtor to the creditor, or to any other, for his use of

reimbursement. All personal access between creditor and debtor was made

illegal; and the debtor, who endeavored to make a remitment of his debt,

or interest, must have done it three times, to answer its getting once to

hand; for two out of three vessels were generally taken by the creditor

nation, and, sometimes, by the creditor himself, as many of them turned

their trading vessels into privateers. Where no place has been agreed

on for the payment of a debt, the laws of England oblige the debtor to

seek his creditor wheresoever he is to be found _within the realm_--Coke

Lit. 210, b. but do not bind him to go out of the realm in search of him.

This is our law too. The first act, generally, of the creditors and their

agents here, was, to withdraw from the United States with their books and

papers. The creditor thus withdrawing from his debtor, so as to render

payment impossible, either of the principal or interest, makes it like

the common case of a tender and refusal of money, after which, interest

stops, both by your laws and ours. We see, too, from the letter of Mr.

Adams, June 16, 1786, No. 57, that the British Secretary for Foreign

Affairs was sensible that a British statute, having rendered criminal

all intercourse between the debtor and creditor, had placed the article

of interest on a different footing from the principal. And the letter of

our plenipotentiaries to Mr. Hartley, the British plenipotentiary, for

forming the definitive treaty, No. 58, shows, that the omission to express

_interest_ in the treaty, was not merely an oversight of the parties;

that its allowance was considered by our plenipotentiaries as a thing not

to be intended in the treaty, was declared against by Congress, and that

declaration communicated to Mr. Hartley. After such an explanation, the

omission is a proof of acquiescence, and an intention not to claim it. It

appears, then, that the _debt_ and _interest_ on that debt are separate

things in every country, and under separate rules. That, in every country,

a _debt_ is recoverable, while, in most countries, interest is refused

in all cases; in others, given or refused, diminished or augmented, at

the discretion of the judge; nowhere given in all cases indiscriminately,

and consequently nowhere so incorporated with the _debt_ as to pass with

that, _ex vi termini_, or otherwise to be considered as a determinate and

_vestat_ thing.

While the taking _interest on money_ has thus been considered, in some

countries, as morally wrong in all cases, in others made legally right

but in particular cases, the taking _profits from lands_, or rents in

lieu of profits, has been allowed everywhere, and at all times, both in

morality and law. Hence it is laid down as a general rule, Wolf, s. 229,

"Si quis fundum alienum possidet, domini est quantum valet usas fundi,

et possessoris quantum valet ejus cultura et cura."[18] But even in the

case of lands restored by a treaty, the _arrears_ of profits or rents are

never restored, unless they be particularly stipulated. "Si res vi pacis

restituendæ, restituendi quoque sunt fructus a die _concessionis_,"[19]

say Wolf, s. 1224; and Grotius, "cui pace res conceditur, ei et fructus

conceduntur à _tempore concessionis_: NON RETRO."[20] l. 3. c. 20. s.

22. To place the right to interest on money on a level with the right to

profits on land, is placing it more advantageously than has been hitherto

authorized; and if, as we have seen, a stipulation to restore lands does

not include a stipulation to restore the _back profits_, we may certainly

conclude, _à fortiori_, that the restitution of debts does not include an

allowance of _back interest_ on them.

These reasons, and others like these, have probably operated on the

different courts to produce decisions, that "no interest should run

during the time this general and national calamity lasted;" and they seem

sufficient at least to rescue their decisions from that flagrant denial

of right, which can alone authorize one nation to come forward with

complaints against the judiciary proceedings of another.

Sec. 55. The States have been uniform in the allowance of interest before

and since the war, but not of that claimed during the war. Thus we know by

[E. 1.] the case of Neate's executors _v._ Sands, in New York, and Mildred

_v._ Dorsey, in Maryland, that in those States interest during the war

is disallowed by the courts. By [D. 8.] 1784, May, the act relating to

debts due to persons who have been, and remained within the enemy's power

or lines during the late war. That Connecticut left it to their Court of

Chancery to determine the matter according to the rules of equity, or

to leave it to referees; by [E. 2.] the case of Osborn _v._ Mifflin's

executors, and [E. 3.] Hare _v._ Allen, explained in the letter of Mr.

Rawle, attorney of the United States, No. 59. And by the letter of Mr.

Lewis, judge of the district court of the United States, No. 60, that in

Pennsylvania the rule is, that where neither the creditor nor any agent

was within the State, no interest was allowed; where either remained, they

gave interest. In all the other States, I believe it is left discretionary

in the courts and juries. In Massachusetts the practice has varied. In

November, 1784, they instruct their Delegates in Congress to ask the

determination of Congress, whether they understood the word "debts" in

the treaty as including interest? and whether it is their opinion, that

interest during the war should be paid? and at the same time they pass

[D. 9.] the act directing the courts to suspend rendering judgment for any

interest that might have accrued between April 19, 1775, and January 20,

1783. But in 1787, when there was a general compliance enacted through

all the United States, in order to see if that would produce a counter

compliance, their Legislature passed the act repealing all laws repugnant

to the treaty, No. 33, and their courts, on their part, changed their rule

relative to interest during the war, which they have uniformly allowed

since that time. The Circuit Court of the United States, at their sessions

at ----, in 1790, determined in like manner that interest should be

allowed during the war. So that, on the whole, we see that, in one State

interest during the war is given in every case; in another it is given

wherever the creditor, or any agent for him, remained in the country, so

as to be accessible; in the others, it is left to the courts and juries

to decide according to their discretion and the circumstances of the case.

TO RECAPITULATE.

Sec. 56. I have, by way of preliminary, placed out of the present

discussion all acts and proceedings prior to the treaty of peace,

considering them as settled by that instrument, and that the then state

of things was adopted by the parties, with such alterations only as that

instrument provided.

I have then taken up the subsequent acts and proceedings, of which you

complain as infractions, distributing them according to their subjects,

to wit:

I. Exile and confiscations.

II. Debts.

III. Interest.

I. Exile and confiscations.

After premising, that these are lawful acts of war, I have shown that

the 5th article was _recommendatory_ only, its stipulations being, not to

_restore_ the confiscations and exiles, but to _recommend_ to the State

Legislatures to restore them:

That this word, having but one meaning, establishes the intent of the

parties; and moreover, that it was particularly explained by the American

negotiators, that the Legislatures would be free to comply with the

recommendation or not, and probably would not comply:

That the British _negotiators_ so understood it:

That the British _ministry_ so understood it:

And the members of both Houses of _Parliament_, as well those who

approved, as who disapproved the article.

I have shown, that Congress did recommend, earnestly and _bona fide_:

That the States refused or complied, in a greater or less degree,

according to circumstances, but more of them, and in a greater degree than

was expected:

And that compensation, by the British treasury, to British sufferers,

was the alternative of her own choice, our negotiators having offered to

do that, if she would compensate such losses as we had sustained by acts

authorized by the modern and moderate principles of war.

II. Before entering on the subject of debts, it was necessary--

1st. To review the British infractions, and refer them to their exact

dates.

To show that the carrying away of the negroes preceded the 6th of May,

1783.

That instead of evacuating the _upper posts with all convenient speed_,

no order had been received for the evacuation, August 13, 1783.

None had been received May 10, 1784.

None had been received July 13, 1784.

From whence I conclude none had ever been _given_,

And thence, that none had ever been _intended_.

In the latter case, this infraction would date from the signature of

the treaty. But founding it on the _not giving the order with convenient

speed_, it dates from April, 1783, when the order for evacuating New York

was given, as there can be no reason why it should have been inconvenient

to give this order as early.

The infraction, then, respecting the upper posts, was before the treaty

was known in America.

That respecting the negroes, was as soon as it was known.

I have observed that these infractions were highly injurious.

The first, by depriving us of our fur trade, profitable in itself, and

valuable as a means of remittance for paying the debts; by intercepting

our friendly and neighborly intercourse with the Indian nations, and

consequently keeping us in constant, expensive, and barbarous war with

them.

The second, by withdrawing the cultivators of the soil, the produce of

which was to pay the debts.

2d. After fixing the date of the British infractions, I have shown,

That, as they _preceded_, so they _produced_ the acts on our part

complained of, as obstacles to the recovery of the debts.

That when one party breaks any stipulation of a treaty, the other is free

to break it also, either in the whole, or in equivalent parts, at its

pleasure.

That Congress having made no elections,

Four of the States assumed, separately, to modify the recovery of debts--

1. By indulging their citizens with longer and more practicable times of

payment.

2. By liberating their bodies from execution, on their delivering property

to the creditor, to the full amount of his demand, on a fair appraisement,

as practised always under the elegit.

3. By admitting, during the first moments of the non-existence of coin

among us, a discharge of executions by payment in paper money.

The first of these acts of retaliation, was in December, 1783, nine months

after the infractions committed by the other party.

And all of them were so moderate, of so short duration, the result of

such necessities, and so produced, that we might, with confidence, have

referred them, _alterius principis, quo boni viri, arbitrio_.

3. That induced, at length, by assurances from the British court, that

they would concur in a fulfilment of the treaty,

Congress, in 1787, declared to the States its will, that even the

appearance of obstacle, raised by their acts, should no longer continue;

And required a formal repeal of every act of that nature; and to avoid

question, required it as well from those who had not, as from those who

had passed such acts; which was complied with so fully, that no such laws

remained in any State of the Union, except one;

And even that one could not have forborne, if any symptoms of compliance

from the opposite party had rendered a reiterated requisition from

Congress important.

4. That, indeed, the requiring such a repeal, was only to take away

pretext:

For, that it was at all times perfectly understood, that treaties

controlled the laws of the States--

The confederation having made them obligatory on the whole:

Congress having so declared and demonstrated them:

The Legislatures and Executives of most of the States having admitted it:

And the Judiciaries, both of the separate and General Governments, so

deciding.

That the courts are open everywhere upon this principle:

That the British creditors have, for some time, been in the habit and

course of recovering their debts at law:

That the class of separate and unsettled debts contracted before the war,

forms now but a small proportion of the original amount:

That the integrity and independence of the courts of justice in the United

States, are liable to no reproach:

Nor have popular tumults furnished any ground for suggesting, that either

courts or creditors are overawed by them in their proceedings.

III. Proceeding to the article of interest, I have observed:

That the decision, whether it shall or shall not be allowed _during the

war_, rests, by our constitution, with the courts altogether.

That if these have generally decided against the allowance, the reasons

of their decisions appear so weighty, as to clear them from the charge of

that palpable degree of wrong, which may authorize national complaint, or

give a right of refusing execution of the treaty, by way of reprisal.

To vindicate them, I have stated shortly, some of the reasons which

support their opinion.

That interest during the war, was not _expressly_ given by the treaty:

That the revival of debts did not, _ex vi termini_, give interest on them:

That interest is not a part of the debt, but damages for the detention of

the debt:

That it is disallowed habitually in most countries;

Yet has never been deemed a ground of national complaint against them:

That in England also, it was formerly unlawful in all cases:

That at this day it is denied there, in such a variety of instances, as

to protect from it a great part of the transactions of life:

That, in fact, there is not a single _title_ to debt, so formal

and sacred, as to give a right to _interest_, under all possible

circumstances, either there or here:

That of these circumstances, judges and jurors are to decide, _in their

discretion_, and are accordingly in the habit of augmenting, diminishing,

or refusing interest, in every case, according to their discretion:

That the circumstances against the allowance, are unquestionably of the

strongest in our case:

That a _great national calamity_ rendering the lands unproductive, which

were to pay the interest, has been adjudged a sufficient cause of itself,

to suspend interest:

That, were both plaintiff and defendant equally innocent of that cause,

The question, who should avoid loss? would be in favor of the party in

possession:

And, _à fortiori_, in his favor, where the calamity was produced by the

act of the demandant.

That, moreover, the laws of the party creditor had cut off the _personal_

access of his debtor,

And the transportation of his _produce or money_ to the country of the

creditor, or to any other for him:

And where the creditor prevents payment both of principal and interest,

the latter, at least, is justly extinguished.

That the _departure_ of the creditor, leaving no agent in the country of

the debtor, would have stopped interest of itself,

The debtor not being obliged to go out of the country to seek him.

That the British minister was heretofore sensible of the weight of the

objections to the claim of interest:

That the declarations of Congress and our plenipotentiaries, _previous to

the definitive treaty_, and the silence of that instrument, afford proof

that interest was not intended on our part, nor insisted on, on the other:

That, were we to admit interest on money, to equal favor with profits on

land, arrears of profits would not be demandable in the present case, nor

consequently arrears of interest:

And, on the whole, without undertaking to say what the law is, which is

not the province of the Executive,

We say, that the reasons of those judges, who deny interest during the

war, _appear sufficiently cogent_--

To account for their opinion on honest principles:

To exempt it from the charge of palpable and flagrant wrong, _in re minime

dubiâ_:

And to take away all pretence of withholding execution of the treaty, by

way of reprisal for that cause.

Sec. 57. I have now, sir, gone through the several acts and proceedings

enumerated in your appendix, as infractions of the treaty, omitting, I

believe, not a single one, as may be seen by a table hereto subjoined,

wherein every one of them, as marked and numbered in your appendix, is

referred to the section of this letter in which it is brought into view;

and the result has been, as you have seen--

1. That there was no absolute stipulation to restore _antecedent_

confiscations, and that none _subsequent_ took place:

2. That the recovery of the debts was obstructed _validly_ in none of

our States, _invalidly_ only in a few, and that not till long after the

infractions committed on the other side; and

3. That the decisions of courts and juries against the claims of interest

are too probably founded to give cause for questioning their integrity.

These things being evident, I cannot but flatter myself, after the

assurances received from you of his Britannic Majesty's desire to remove

every occasion of misunderstanding from between us, that an end will now

be put to the disquieting situation of the two countries, by as complete

execution of the treaty as circumstances render practicable at this late

day: that it is to be done so late has been the source of heavy losses,

of blood and treasure, to the United States. Still our desire of friendly

accommodation is, and has been, constant. No "_lawful impediment_ has

been opposed to the prosecution of the just rights of your citizens."

And if any instances of _unlawful_ impediment have existed in any of

the inferior tribunals, they would, like other unlawful proceedings,

have been overruled on appeal to the higher courts. If not overruled

there, a complaint to the Government would have been regular, and their

interference probably effectual. If your citizens would not prosecute

their rights, it was impossible they should recover them, or be denied

recovery; and till a denial of right through all the tribunals, there is

no ground for complaint; much less for a refusal to comply with solemn

stipulations, the execution of which is too important to us ever to

be dispensed with. These difficulties being removed from between the

two nations, I am persuaded the interests of both will be found in the

strictest friendship. The considerations which lead to it are too numerous

and forcible to fail of their effect; and that they may be permitted to

have their full effect, no one wishes more sincerely than he, who has the

honor to be, &c.[21]

FOOTNOTES:

[6] "The state in which things are found at the moment of the treaty,

should be considered as lawful; and if it is meant to make any change

init, the treaty must expressly mention it. Consequently, all things,

about which the treaty is silent, must remain in the state in which

they are found at its conclusion." Vattel, 1. 4. s. 21.

[7] "Those things of which nothing is said, remain in the state in

which they are." Wolf, 1222.

[8] Vattel, 1. 4, s. 24.--"The treaty of peace binds the _contracting

parties_ from the moment it is concluded, as soon as it has received

its whole form, and they ought immediately to have it executed. But

this treaty does not bind the _subjects_, but from the moment it is

notified to them." And s. 25.--"The treaty becomes, by its

_publication_, a law for the subjects, and they are obliged,

_thenceforward_, to conform themselvesto the stipulations therein

agreed on."

[9] "The paction of the peace binds the _contractors_ immediately, as

it is _perfect_, since the obligation is derived from the pact; but

the _subjects_ and soldiers, as soon as it is _published_ to them;

since _they cannot have certain evidence of it before its

publication_." Wolf, s. 1229.

[10] "Since it is a condition of war, that enemies may be deprived

of all their rights, it is reasonable that everything of an enemy's,

found among his enemies, should change its owner, and go to the

treasury. It is, moreover, usually directed, in all declarations

of war, that the goods of enemies, as well _those found among us_,

as those taken in war, shall beconfiscated. If we follow the mere

right of war, even _immovable_ property may be sold, and its price

carried into the treasury, as is the customwith movable property.

But in almost all Europe, it is only notified that their profits,

during the war, shall be received by the treasury; and the war being

ended, the immovable property itself is restored, by agreement,

to the former owner." Bynk. Ques. Jur. Pub. 1. 1, c. 7.

[11] "Lors qu'on n'a point marqué de terme pour l'accomplissement du

traité, et pour l'execution de chacun des articles, le bon sens dit

que chaque point doit être executé _aussitôt qu'il est possible_.

C'est sans doute ainsi qu'on l'a entendu."

[12] Instead of this, Fort Erie was, by error, inserted in my letter

of December 15.

[13] "If the obstacle be real, time must be given, for no one is

bound to an impossibility." Vattel l. 4, s. 51.

[14] "No one is bound beyond what he can do, and whether he can,

may be left to the decision of the other prince, as an honest man."

Bynk. Q. J. P. l. 2, c. 10.

[15] "What I have said of things in action being rightly confiscated

hold thus: If the prince really exacts from his subjects what they

owed to our enemies, if he shall have exacted it, it is rightfully

paid, if he shall not have exacted it, peace being made, the former

right of the creditor revives; accordingly, it is for the most part

agreed among nations, that things in action being confiscated in war,

the peace being made, those which were paid are deemed to have

perished and remain extinct; but those not paid, revive, and are

restored to their true creditors."--Bynk. Q. J. P. l. 1, c. 7.

[16] In a matter susceptible of no doubt.

[17] On account of the detention of the debt.

[18] "If any one is in possession of another's land, so much belongs

to the owner as the use of the land is worth, and so much to the

possessor as his labor and care are worth."

[19] "If things are to be restored by virtue of the peace, the

profits are also to be restored _from the day of the cession_."

[20] "To whomsoever a thing is conceded by the peace, to him

also the profits are conceded, _from the time of the concession_,

BUT NOT BACK."

[21] For documents referred to in this letter, see American

State Papers, Foreign Affairs, vol. ii., p. 216.

CIRCULAR TO THE AMERICAN CONSULS.

Philadelphia, May 31, 1792.

Sir,--Congress having closed their session on the 8th instant, I have

now the honor to forward you a copy of the laws passed thereat. One of

these, chapter twenty-four, will require your particular attention, as it

contains such regulations relative to the consular office, as it has been

thought proper to establish legislatively.

With respect to the security required by the sixth section, I would prefer

persons residing within the United States, where the party can procure

such to be his security. In this case, his own bond duly executed may be

sent to me, and his sureties here may enter into a separate bond. Where

the party cannot conveniently find sureties within the United States,

my distance and want of means of knowing their sufficiency, oblige

me to refer him to the minister or chargé des affaires of the United

States, within the same government, if there be one, and if not, then

to the minister of the United States, resident at Paris. The securities

which they shall approve, will be admitted as good. In like manner, the

account for their disbursements, authorized by this law (and no other

can be allowed), are to be settled at stated periods with the minister

or chargé within their residence, if there be one, if none, then with

the minister of the United States at Paris. The person who settles the

account is authorized to pay it. Our consuls in America are not meant to

be included in these directions as to securityship and the settlement

of their accounts, as their situation gives them a more convenient

communication with me. It is also recommended to the consuls to keep an

ordinary correspondence with the minister or chargé to whom they are thus

referred; but it would be also useful, if they could forward directly to

me, from time to time, the prices current of their place, and any other

circumstance which it might be interesting to make known to our merchants

without delay.

The prices of our funds have undergone some variations within the last

three months. The six per cents were pushed by gambling adventurers up to

twenty-six and a half, or twenty-seven and a half shillings the pound. A

bankruptcy having taken place among these, and considerably affected the

more respectable part of the paper holders, a greater quantity of paper

was thrown suddenly on the market than there was demand or money to take

up. The prices fell to nineteen shillings. This crisis has passed, and

they are getting up towards their value. Though the price of public paper

is considered as the barometer of the public credit, it is truly so only

as to the general average of prices. The real credit of the United States

depends on their ability, and the immutability of their will to pay their

debts. These were as evident when their paper fell to nineteen shillings,

as when it was at twenty-seven shillings. The momentary variation was

like that in the price of corn, or any other commodity, the result of a

momentary disproportion between the demand and supply.

The unsuccessful issue of our expedition against the savages the last

year, is not unknown to you. More adequate preparations are making for

the present year, and in the meantime, some of the tribes have accepted

peace, and others have expressed a readiness to do the same.

Another plentiful year has been added to those which had preceded it, and

the present bids fair to be equally so. A prosperity built on the basis of

agriculture is that which is most desirable to us, because to the efforts

of labor it adds the efforts of a greater proportion of soil. The checks,

however, which the commercial regulations of Europe have given to the

sale of our produce, have produced a very considerable degree of domestic

manufacture, which, so far as it is of the household kind, will doubtless

continue, and so far as it is more public, will depend on the continuance

or discontinuance of the European policy.

I am, with great esteem, Sir, your most obedient humble servant.

TO JOHN PAUL JONES.

Philadelphia, June 1, 1792.

Sir,--The President of the United States having thought proper to appoint

you commissioner for treating with the Dey and government of Algiers,

on the subjects of peace and ransom of our captives, I have the honor

to enclose you the commission, of which Mr. Thomas Pinckney, now on his

way to London as our Minister Plenipotentiary there, will be the bearer.

Supposing that there exists a disposition to thwart our negotiations with

the Algerines, and that this would be very practicable, we have thought

it advisable that the knowledge of this appointment should rest with the

President, Mr. Pinckney and myself; for which reason you will perceive,

that the commissions are all in my own hand writing. For the same reason,

entire secrecy is recommended to you, and that you so cover from the

public your departure and destination, as that they may not be conjectured

or noticed; and at the same time, that you set out after as short delay

as your affairs will possibly permit.

In order to enable you to enter on this business with full information,

it will be necessary to give you a history of what has passed.

On the 25th of July, 1785, the schooner Maria, Captain Stevens, belonging

to a Mr. Foster, of Boston, was taken off Cape St. Vincents, by an

Algerine cruiser; and five days afterwards, the ship Dauphin, Captain

O'Bryan, belonging to Messrs. Irwins, of Philadelphia, was taken by

another, about fifty leagues westward of Lisbon. These vessels, with

their cargoes and crews, twenty-one persons in number, were carried into

Algiers. Mr. John Lambe, appointed agent for treating of peace between

the United States and the government of Algiers, was ready to set out

from France on that business, when Mr. Adams and myself heard of these

two captures. The ransom of prisoners being a case not existing when

our powers were prepared, no provision had been made for it. We thought,

however, we ought to endeavor to ransom our countrymen, without waiting

for orders; but at the same time, that acting without authority, we

should keep within the lowest price which had been given by any other

nation. We therefore gave a supplementary instruction to Mr. Lambe to

ransom our captives, if it could be done for two hundred dollars a man,

as we knew that three hundred French captives had been just ransomed by

the Mathurins, at a price very little above this sum. He proceeded to

Algiers; but his mission proved fruitless. He wrote us word from thence,

that the Dey asked fifty-nine thousand four hundred and ninety-six dollars

for the twenty-one captives, and that it was not probable he would abate

much from that price. But he never intimated an idea of agreeing to

give it. As he has never settled the accounts of his mission, no further

information has been received. It has been said that he entered into a

positive stipulation with the Dey, to pay for the prisoners the price

above mentioned, or something near it; and that he came away with an

assurance to return with the money. We cannot believe the fact true; and

if it were, we disavow it totally, as far beyond his powers. We have never

disavowed it formally, because it has never come to our knowledge with

any degree of certainty.

In February, 1787, I wrote to Congress to ask leave to employ the

Mathurins of France in ransoming our captives; and on the 19th of

September, I received their orders to do so, and to call for the money

from our bankers at Amsterdam, as soon as it could be furnished. It was

long before they could furnish the money, and as soon as they notified

that they could, the business was put into train by the General of the

Mathurins, not with the appearance of acting for the United States,

or with their knowledge, but merely on the usual ground of charity.

This expedient was rendered abortive by the revolution of France, the

derangement of ecclesiastical orders there and the revocation of church

property, before any proposition, perhaps, had been made in form by the

Mathurins to the Dey of Algiers. I have some reason to believe that Mr.

Eustace, while in Spain, endeavored to engage the court of Spain to employ

their Mathurins in this business; but whether they actually moved in it

or not, I have never learned.

We have also been told, that a Mr. Simpson of Gibraltar, by the direction

of the Messrs. Bulkeleys of Lisbon, contracted for the ransom of our

prisoners (then reduced by death and ransom to fourteen) at thirty-four

thousand seven hundred and ninety-two dollars. By whose orders they did

it, we could never learn. I have suspected it was some association in

London, which, finding the prices far above their conception, did not go

through with their purpose, which probably had been merely a philanthropic

one. Be this as it may, it was without our authority or knowledge.

Again, Mr. Cathalan, our consul at Marseilles, without any instruction

from the government, and actuated merely, as we presume, by willingness

to do something agreeable, set on foot another negotiation for their

redemption; which ended in nothing.

These several volunteer interferences, though undertaken with good

intentions, run directly counter to our plan; which was, to avoid the

appearance of any purpose on our part ever to ransom our captives, and

by that semblance of neglect, to reduce the demands of the Algerines to

such a price, as might make it hereafter less their interest to pursue

our citizens than any others. On the contrary, they have supposed all

these propositions directly or indirectly came from us; they inferred from

thence the greatest anxiety on our part, where we had been endeavoring to

make them suppose there was none; kept up their demands for our captives

at the highest prices ever paid by any nation; and thus these charitable,

though unauthorized interpositions, have had the double effect of

strengthening the chains they were meant to break, and making us at last

set a much higher rate of ransom for our citizens, present and future,

than we probably should have obtained, if we had been left alone to do

our own work in our own way. Thus stands this business then at present.

A formal bargain, as I am informed, being registered in the books of the

former Dey, on the part of the Bulkeleys of Lisbon, which they suppose

to be obligatory on us, but which is to be utterly disavowed, as having

never been authorized by us, nor its source even known to us.

In 1790, this subject was laid before Congress fully, and at the late

session, moneys have been provided, and authority given to proceed to the

ransom of our captive citizens at Algiers, provided it shall not exceed

a given sum, and provided also, a peace shall be previously negotiated

within certain limits of expense. And in consequence of these proceedings,

your mission has been decided on by the President.

Since, then, no _ransom_ is to take place without a _peace_, you will of

course take up first the negotiation of peace; or, if you find it better

that peace and ransom should be treated of together, you will take care

that no agreement for the latter be concluded, unless the former be

established before or in the same instant.

As to the conditions, it is understood that no peace can be made with

that government, but for a larger sum of money to be paid at once for the

whole time of its duration, or for a smaller one to be annually paid.

The former plan we entirely refuse, and adopt the latter. We have also

understood that peace might be bought cheaper with naval stores than with

money; but we will not furnish them with naval stores, because we think

it not right to furnish them means which we know they will employ to do

wrong, and because there might be no economy in it as to ourselves, in the

end, as it would increase the expenses of that coercion which we may in

future be obliged to practise towards them. The only question then, is,

what sum of _money_ will we agree to pay them _annually_, for peace? By a

letter from Captain O'Bryan, a copy of which you will receive herewith,

we have his opinion that a peace could be purchased with _money_, for

sixty thousand pounds sterling, or with _naval stores_, for one hundred

thousand dollars. An annual payment equivalent to the first, would be

three thousand pounds sterling, or thirteen thousand and five hundred

dollars, the interest of the sum in gross. If we could obtain it for as

small a sum as the second, in _money_, the annual payment equivalent to

it would be five thousand dollars. In another part of the same letter,

Captain O'Bryan says, "if maritime stores and two light cruisers be given,

and a tribute paid in maritime stores every two years, amounting to twelve

thousand dollars in America," a peace can be had. The gift of stores

and cruisers here supposed, converted into an annual equivalent, may be

stated at nine thousand dollars, and adding to it half the biennial sum,

would make fifteen thousand dollars, to be annually paid. You will, of

course, use your best endeavors to get it at the lowest sum practicable;

whereupon I shall only say, that we should be pleased with ten thousand

dollars, contented with fifteen thousand, think twenty thousand a very

hard bargain, yet go as far as twenty-five thousand, if it be impossible

to get it for less; but not a copper further, this being fixed by law as

the utmost limit. These are meant as annual sums. If you can put off the

first annual payment to the end of the first year, you may employ any

sum not exceeding that, in presents to be paid down; but if the first

payment is to be made in hand, that and the presents cannot by law exceed

twenty-five thousand dollars.

And here we meet a difficulty, arising from the small degree of

information we have respecting the Barbary States. Tunis is said to

be tributary to Algiers. But whether the effect of this be, that peace

being made with Algiers, is of course with the Tunisians without separate

treaty, or separate price, is what we know not. If it be possible to have

it placed on this footing, so much the better. In any event, it will be

necessary to stipulate with Algiers, that her influence be interposed

as strongly as possible with Tunis, whenever we shall proceed to treat

with the latter; which cannot be till information of the event of your

negotiation, and another session of Congress.

As to the articles and form of the treaty in general, our treaty with

Morocco was so well digested that I enclose you a copy of that, to be the

model with Algiers, as nearly as it can be obtained, only inserting the

clause with respect to Tunis.

The ransom of the captives is next to be considered. They are now thirteen

in number; to wit, Richard O'Bryan and Isaac Stevens, captains, Andrew

Montgomery and Alexander Forsyth, mates, Jacob Tessanier, a French

passenger, William Patterson, Philip Sloan, Peleg Lorin, James Hall,

James Cathcart, George Smith, John Gregory, James Hermit, seamen. It has

been a fixed principle with Congress, to establish the rate of ransom of

American captives with the Barbary States at as low a point as possible,

that it may not be the interest of those States to go in quest of our

citizens in preference to those of other countries. Had it not been for

the danger it would have brought on the residue of our seamen, by exciting

the cupidity of those rovers against them, our citizens now in Algiers

would have been long ago redeemed, without regard to price. The mere money

for this particular redemption neither has been, nor is, an object with

anybody here. It is from the same regard to the safety of our seamen at

large, that they have now restrained us from any ransom unaccompanied

with peace. This being secured, we are led to consent to terms of ransom,

to which, otherwise, our government never would have consented; that is

to say, to the terms stated by Captain O'Bryan in the following passage

of the same letter: "By giving the minister of the marine (the present

Dey's favorite) the sum of one thousand sequins, I would stake my life

that we would be ransomed for thirteen thousand sequins, and all expenses

included." Extravagant as this sum is, we will, under the security of

peace in future, go so far; not doubting, at the same time, that you

will obtain it as much lower as possible, and not indeed without a hope

that a lower ransom will be practicable, from the assurances given us in

other letters from Captain O'Bryan, that prices are likely to be abated

by the present Dey, and particularly with us, towards whom he has been

represented as well disposed. You will consider this sum, therefore, say

twenty-seven thousand dollars, as your ultimate limit, including ransom,

duties, and gratifications of every kind.

As soon as the ransom is completed, you will be pleased to have the

captives well clothed and sent home at the expense of the United States,

with as much economy as will consist with their reasonable comfort. It

is thought best, that Mr. Pinckney, our minister at London, should be the

confidential channel of communication between us. He is enabled to answer

your drafts for money within the limits before expressed; and as this will

be by re-drawing on Amsterdam, you must settle with him the number of days

_after sight_, at which your bills shall be payable in London, so as to

give him time, in the meanwhile, to draw the money from Amsterdam.

We shall be anxious to know as soon and as often as possible, your

prospects in these negotiations. You will receive herewith a cypher, which

will enable you to make them with safety. London and Lisbon (where Colonel

Humphreys will forward my letters) will be the safest and best ports of

communication. I also enclose two separate commissions, for the objects

of peace and ransom. To these is added a commission to you as consul for

the United States, at Algiers, on the possibility that it might be useful

for you to remain there till the ratification of the treaties shall be

returned from hence; though you are not to delay till their return the

sending the captives home, nor the necessary payments of money within the

limits before prescribed. Should you be willing to remain there, even

after the completion of the business, as consul for the United States,

you will be free to do so, giving me notice, that no other nomination

may be made. These commissions, being issued during the recess of the

Senate, are in force, by the Constitution, only till the next session of

the Senate. But their renewal then is so much a matter of course and of

necessity, that you may consider that as certain, and proceed without any

interruption. I have not mentioned this in the commissions, because it is

in all cases surplusage, and because it might be difficult of explanation

to those to whom you are addressed.

The allowance for all your expenses and time (exclusive of the ransom,

price of peace, duties, presents, maintenance and transportation of the

captives) is at the rate of two thousand dollars a year, to commence

from the day on which you shall set out for Algiers, from whatever place

you may take your departure. The particular objects of peace and ransom

once out of the way, the two thousand dollars annually are to go in

satisfaction of time, services, and expenses of every kind, whether you

act as consul or commissioner.

As the duration of this peace cannot be counted on with certainty, and we

look forward to the necessity of coercion by cruises on their coast, to

be kept up during the whole of their cruising season, you will be pleased

to inform yourself, as minutely as possible, of every circumstance which

may influence or guide us in undertaking and conducting such an operation,

making your communications by safe opportunities.

I must recommend to your particular notice, Captain O'Bryan, one of the

captives, from whom we have received a great deal of useful information.

The zeal which he has displayed under the trying circumstances of

his present situation, has been very distinguished. You will find him

intimately acquainted with the manner in which, and characters with whom

business is to be done there, and perhaps he may be an useful instrument

to you, especially in the outset of your undertaking, which will require

the utmost caution and the best information. He will be able to give you

the characters of the European consuls there, though you will, probably,

not think it prudent to repose confidence in any of them.

Should you be able successfully to accomplish the objects of your mission

in time to convey notice of it to us as early as possible during the next

session of Congress, which meets in the beginning of November and rises

the 4th of March, it would have a very pleasant effect.

I am, with great esteem, Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant.

TO MR. MADISON.

Philadelphia, June 4, 1792.

Dear Sir,--I wrote you on the 1st inst., which I will call No. 1, and

number my letters in future that you may know when any are missing. Mr.

Hammond has given me an answer in writing, saying, he must send my letter

to his court and wait their instructions. On this I desired a personal

interview, that we might consider the matter together in a familiar way.

He came accordingly, yesterday, and took a solo dinner with me, during

which our conversation was full, unreserved, and of a nature to inspire

mutual confidence. The result was that he acknowledged explicitly that his

country had hitherto heard one side of the question only, and that from

prejudiced persons, that it was now for the first time discussed, that it

was placed on entirely new ground, his court having no idea of a charge of

first infractions on them, and a justification on that ground of what had

been done by our States, that this made it quite a new case to which no

instructions he had could apply. He found, from my expressions, that I had

entertained an idea of his being able to give an order to the Governor of

Canada to deliver up the posts, and smiled at the idea; and it was evident

from his conversation that it had not at all entered into the expectations

of his court that they were to deliver up the posts. He did not say so

expressly, but he said that they considered the retaining of the posts as

a very imperfect compensation for the losses their subjects had sustained;

under the cover of the clause of the treaty which admits them to the

navigation of the Mississippi, and the evident mistake of the negotiators

in supposing that a line due west from the Lake of the Woods would strike

the Mississippi, he suppose an explanatory convention necessary, and

showed a desire that such a slice of our Northwestern Territory might be

cut off for them as would admit them to the navigation and profit of the

Mississippi, &c., &c. He expects he can have his final instructions by

the meeting of Congress. I have not yet had the conversation mentioned in

my last. Do you remember that you were to leave me a list of names? Pray

send them to me. My only view is that, if the P. asks me for a list of

particulars, I may enumerate names to him, without naming my authority,

and show him that I had not been speaking merely at random. If we do not

have our conversation before, I can make a comparative table of the debts

and numbers of all modern nations. I will show him how high we stand

indebted by the poll in that table. I omitted Hammond's admission that the

debt from the Potowmac North might be considered as liquidated, that that

of Virginia was now the only great object, and cause of anxiety, amounting

to two millions sterling. Adieu. Yours, affectionately.

TO THOMAS BARCLAY, ESQUIRE.

Philadelphia, June 11, 1792.

Sir,--Congress having furnished me with means for procuring peace, and

ransoming our captive citizens from the government of Algiers, I have

thought it best, while you are engaged at Morocco, to appoint Admiral

Jones to proceed to Algiers, and therefore have sent him a commission for

establishing peace, another for the ransom of our captives, and a third

to act there as consul for the United States, and full instructions are

given in a letter from the Secretary of State to him, of all which papers,

Mr. Pinckney, now proceeding to London as our Minister Plenipotentiary

there, is the bearer, as he is also of this letter. It is some time,

however, since we have heard of Admiral Jones, and as in the event of any

accident to him, it might occasion an injurious delay, were the business

to await new commissions from hence, I have thought it best in such an

event, that Mr. Pinckney should forward to you all the papers addressed to

Admiral Jones, with this letter, signed by myself, giving you authority on

receipt of those papers, to consider them addressed to you, and to proceed

under them in every respect as if your name stood in each of them in the

place of that of John Paul Jones. You will of course finish the business

of your mission to Morocco with all the dispatch practicable, and then

proceed to Algiers on that hereby confided to you, where this letter,

with the commissions addressed to Admiral Jones, and an explanation of

circumstances, will doubtless procure you credit as acting in the name

and on the behalf of the United States, and more especially when you shall

efficaciously prove your authority by the fact of making on the spot, the

payments you shall stipulate. With full confidence in the prudence and

integrity with which you will fulfill the objects of the present mission,

I give to this letter the effect of a commission and full powers, by

hereunto subscribing my name, this eleventh day of June, one thousand

seven hundred and ninety-two.

TO MR. PINCKNEY.

Philadelphia, June 11, 1792.

Dear Sir,--I have already had the honor of delivering to you your

commission as Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States at the court

of London, and have now that of enclosing your letter of credence to the

King, sealed, and a copy of it open for your own information. Mr. Adams,

your predecessor, seemed to understand, on his being presented to that

court, that a letter was expected for the Queen also. You will be pleased

to inform yourself whether the custom of that court requires this from

us: and to enable you to comply with it, if it should, I enclose a letter

sealed for the Queen, and a copy of it open for your own information.

Should its delivery not be requisite you will be so good as to return

it, as we do not wish to set a precedent which may bind us hereafter

to a single unnecessary ceremony. To you, Sir, it will be unnecessary

to undertake a general delineation of the duties of the office to which

you are appointed. I shall therefore only express a desire that they be

constantly exercised in that spirit of sincere friendship which we bear to

the English nation, and that in all transactions with the minister, his

good dispositions be conciliated by whatever in language or attentions

may tend to that effect. With respect to their government, or policy, as

concerning themselves or other nations, we wish not to intermeddle in word

or deed, and that it be not understood that our government permits itself

to entertain either a will or opinion on the subject.

I particularly recommend to you, as the most important of your charges,

the patronage of our commerce, and its liberation from embarrassments

in all the British dominions; but most especially in the West Indies.

Our consuls in Great Britain and Ireland are under general instructions

to correspond with you, as you will perceive by a copy of a circular

letter lately written to them, and now enclosed. From them you may often

receive interesting information. Mr. Joshua Johnson is consul for us at

London, James Maury, at Liverpool, Elias Vanderhorst, at Bristol, Thomas

Auldjo, vice-consul at Pool (resident at Cowes), and William Knox, consul

at Dublin. The jurisdiction of each is exclusive and independent, and

extends to all places within the same allegiance nearer to him than to

the residence of any other consul or vice-consul of the United States. The

settlement of their accounts from time to time, and the payment of them,

are referred to you, and in this, the act respecting consuls and any other

laws made, or to be made, are to be your guide. Charges which these do

not authorize, you will be pleased not to allow. These accounts are to be

settled up to the first day of July in every year, and to be transmitted

to the Secretary of State.

The peculiar custom in England, of impressing seamen on every appearance

of war, will occasionally expose our seamen to peculiar oppressions and

vexations. These will require your most active exertions and protection,

which we know cannot be effectual without incurring considerable expense;

and as no law has as yet provided for this, we think it fairer to take

the risk of it on the executive than to leave it on your shoulders. You

will, therefore, with all due economy, and on the best vouchers the nature

of the case will admit, meet those expenses, transmitting an account of

them to the Secretary of State, to be communicated to the Legislature.

It will be expedient that you take proper opportunities in the meantime,

of conferring with the minister on this subject, in order to form some

arrangement for the protection of our seamen on those occasions. We

entirely reject the mode which was the subject of a conversation between

Mr. Morris and him, which was, that our seamen should always carry about

them certificates of their citizenship. This is a condition never yet

submitted to by any nation, one with which seamen would never have the

precaution to comply; the casualties of their calling would expose them

to the constant destruction or loss of this paper evidence, and thus,

the British government would be armed with _legal authority_ to impress

the whole of our seamen. The simplest rule will be, that the vessel

being American, shall be evidence that the seamen on board her are such.

If they apprehend that our vessels might thus become asylums for the

fugitives of their own nation from impress-gangs, the number of men to

be protected by a vessel may be limited by her tonnage, and one or two

officers only be permitted to enter the vessel in order to examine the

numbers on board; but no press-gang should be allowed ever to go on board

an American vessel, till after it shall be found that there are more than

their stipulated number on board, nor till after the master shall have

refused to deliver the supernumeraries (to be named by himself) to the

press-officer who has come on board for that purpose; and even then, the

American consul should be called in. In order to urge a settlement of this

point, before a new occasion may arise, it may not be amiss to draw their

attention to the peculiar irritation excited on the last occasion, and

the difficulty of avoiding our making immediate reprisals on their seamen

here. You will be so good as to communicate to me what shall pass on this

subject, and it may be made an article of convention, to be entered into

either there or here.

You will receive herewith a copy of the journals of the ancient Congress,

and of the laws, journals and reports of the present. Those for the

future, with gazettes and other interesting papers, shall be sent you

from time to time; and I shall leave you generally to the gazettes, for

whatever information is in possession of the public, and shall especially

undertake to communicate by letter, such only relative to the business

of your mission as the gazetteers cannot give. From you I ask, once or

twice a month, a communication of interesting occurrences in England,

of the general affairs of Europe, the court gazette, the best paper in

the interest of the ministry and the best of the opposition party, most

particularly, that one of each which shall give the best account of the

debates of parliament, the parliamentary register annually, and such

other political publications as may be important enough to be read by one

who can spare little time to read anything, or which may contain matter

proper to be kept and turned to, on interesting subjects and occasions.

The English packet is the most certain channel for such epistolary

communications as are not very secret, and intermediate occasions by

private vessels may be resorted to for secret communications, and for such

as would come too expensively burthened with postage, by the packets. You

are furnished with a cypher for greater secrecy of communication. To the

papers before mentioned, I must desire you to add the Leyden gazette,

paper by paper as it comes out, by the first vessel sailing after its

receipt.

I enclose you the papers in the case of a Mr. Wilson, ruined by the

capture of his vessel, after the term limited by the armistice. They will

inform you of the circumstances of his case, and where you may find him

personally, and I recommend his case to your particular representations

to the British court. It is possible that other similar cases may be

transmitted to you. You have already received some letters of Mr. Adams'

explanations of the principles of the armistice, and of what had passed

between him and the British minister on the subject.

Mr. Greene, of Rhode Island, will deliver you his papers, and I am to

desire that you may patronize his claims so far as shall be just and

right, leaving to himself and his agent to follow up the minute details of

solicitation, and coming forward yourself only when there shall be proper

occasion for you to do so in the name of your nation.

Mr. Cutting has a claim against the government, vouchers for which he is

to procure from England. As you are acquainted with the circumstances of

it, I have only to desire that you will satisfy yourself as to the facts

relative thereto, the evidence of which cannot be transmitted, and that

you will communicate the same to me, that justice may be done between the

public and the claimant.

We shall have occasion to ask your assistance in procuring a workman or

two for our mint; but this shall be the subject of a separate letter,

after I shall have received more particular explanations from the director

of the mint.

I have the honor to be, with great and sincere esteem, dear Sir, your most

obedient, and most humble servant.

TO THOMAS PINCKNEY.

Philadelphia, June 11, 1792.

Sir,--The letter I have addressed to Admiral Jones, of which you have

had the perusal, has informed you of the mission with which the President

has thought proper to charge him at Algiers, and how far your agency is

desired for conveying to him the several papers, for receiving and paying

his drafts to the amount therein permitted, by re-drawing yourself on

our bankers in Amsterdam who are instructed to honor your bills, and by

acting as a channel of correspondence between us. It has been some time,

however, since we have heard of Admiral Jones. Should any accident have

happened to his life, or should you be unable to learn where he is, or

should distance, refusal to act, or any other circumstance deprive us of

his services on this occasion, or be likely to produce too great a delay,

of which you are to be the judge, you will then be pleased to send all

the papers confided to you for him, to Mr. Thomas Barclay, our consul at

Morocco, with the letter addressed to him, which is delivered you open,

and by which you will perceive that he is, in that event, substituted

to every intent and purpose in the place of Admiral Jones. You will be

pleased not to pass any of the papers confided to you on this business,

through any post office.

I have the honor to be, with great and sincere esteem, Sir, your most

obedient humble servant.

TO MR PINCKNEY.

Philadelphia, June 14, 1792.

Sir,--The United States being now about to establish a mint, it becomes

necessary to ask your assistance in procuring persons to carry on some

parts of it; and to enable you to give it, you must be apprised of some

facts.

Congress, some time ago, authorized the President to take measures for

procuring some artists from any place where they were to be had. It was

known that a Mr. Drost, a Swiss, had made an improvement in the method

of coining, and some specimens of his coinage were exhibited here, which

were superior to anything we had ever seen. Mr. Short was, therefore,

authorized to engage Drost to come over, to erect the proper machinery,

and instruct persons to go on with the coinage; and as he supposed this

would require about a year, we agreed to give him a thousand louis a year

and his expenses. The agreement was made, two coining mills, or screws,

were ordered by him; but in the end, he declined coming. We have reason to

believe he was drawn off by the English East India Company, and that he is

now at work for them in England. Mr. Bolton had also made a proposition

to coin for us in England, which was declined. Since this, the act has

been passed for establishing our mint, which authorizes, among other

things, the employment of an assayer at fifteen hundred dollars a year,

a chief coiner at the same, and an engraver at twelve hundred dollars.

But it admits of the employment of one person, both as engraver and chief

coiner; this we expect may be done, as we presume that any engraver who

has been used to work for a coinage, must be well enough acquainted with

all the operations of coinage to direct them; and it is an economy worth

attention, if we can have the services performed by one officer instead

of two, in which case, it is proposed to give him the salary of the chief

coiner, that is to say, fifteen hundred dollars a year. I have, therefore,

to request that you will endeavor, on your arrival in Europe, to engage

and send us an assayer of approved skill and well-attested integrity,

and a chief coiner and engraver, in one person, if possible, acquainted

with all the improvements in coining, and particularly those of Drost

and Bolton. Their salaries may commence from the day of their sailing

for America. If Drost be in England, I think he will feel himself under

some obligation to aid you in procuring persons. How far Bolton will do

it, seems uncertain. You will, doubtless, make what you can of the good

dispositions of either of these or any other person. Should you find it

impracticable to procure an engraver capable of performing the functions

of chief coiner also, we must be content that you engage separate

characters. Let these persons bring with them all the implements necessary

for carrying on the business, except such as you shall think too bulky

and easily made here. It would be proper, therefore, that they should

consult you as to the necessary implements and their prices, that they may

act under your control. The method of your paying for these implements

and making reasonable advances to the workmen, shall be the subject of

another letter, after the President shall have decided thereon. It should

be a part of the agreement of these people, that they will faithfully

instruct all persons in their art, whom we shall put under them for that

purpose. Your contract with them, may be made for any term not exceeding

four years.

I have the honor to be, with great and much esteem, dear Sir, your most

obedient, and most humble servant.

P. S. Should you not be able to procure persons of eminent qualifications

for their business, in England, it will be proper to open a correspondence

with Mr. Morris on the subject, and see whether he cannot get such

from France. Next to the obtaining the ablest artists, a very important

circumstance is to send them to us as soon as possible.

TO GOUVERNEUR MORRIS.

Philadelphia, June 16, 1792.

Dear Sir,--My last to you was of March the 28th. Yours of April the 6th

and 10th came to hand three days ago.

With respect to the particular objects of commerce susceptible of being

placed on a better footing, on which you ask my ideas, they will show

themselves by the enclosed table of the situation of our commerce with

France and England. That with France is stated as it stood at the time

I left that country, when the only objects whereon change was still

desirable, were those of salted provisions, tobacco and tar, pitch and

turpentine. The first was in negotiation when I came away, and was pursued

by Mr. Short with prospects of success, till their general tariff so

unexpectedly deranged our commerce with them as to other articles. Our

commerce with their West Indies had never admitted amelioration during

my stay in France. The temper of that period did not allow even the

essay, and it was as much as we could do to hold the ground given us by

the Marshal de Castries' _Arret_, admitting us to their colonies with

salted provisions, &c. As to both these branches of commerce, to wit,

with France and her colonies, we have hoped they would pursue their own

proposition of arranging them by treaty, and that we could draw that

treaty to this place. There is no other where the dependence of their

colonies on our States for their prosperity is so obvious as here, nor

where their negotiator would feel it so much. But it would be imprudent

to leave to the uncertain issue of such a treaty, the re-establishment

of our commerce with _France_ on the footing on which it was in the

beginning of their revolution. That treaty may be long on the anvil; in

the meantime, we cannot consent to the late innovations, without taking

measures to do justice to our own navigation. This object, therefore, is

particularly recommended to you, while you will also be availing yourself

of every opportunity which may arise, of benefiting our commerce in any

other part. I am in hopes you will have found the moment favorable on your

arrival in France, when Monsieur Claviere was in the ministry, and the

dispositions of the National Assembly favorable to the ministers. Your

cypher has not been sent hitherto, because it required a most confidential

channel of conveyance. It is now committed to Mr. Pinckney, who also

carries the gazettes, laws, and other public papers for you. We have been

long without any vessel going to Havre. Some of the Indian tribes have

acceded to terms of peace. The greater part, however, still hold off,

and oblige us to pursue more vigorous measures for war. I enclose you an

extract from a circular letter to our consuls, by which you will perceive

that those in countries where we have no diplomatic representative, are

desired to settle their accounts annually with the minister of the United

States at Paris. This business, I must desire you to undertake. The act

concerning consuls will be your guide, and I shall be glad that the first

of July be the day to which their accounts shall be annually settled and

paid, and that they may be forwarded as soon after that as possible to

the office of the Secretary of State, to enter into the general account

of his department, which it is necessary he should make up always before

the meeting of Congress.

I am, with great and sincere esteem, dear Sir, your most obedient, and

most humble servant.

P. S. I have said nothing of our whale oil, because I believe it is on a

better footing since the tariff than before.

TO M. DE LA FAYETTE.

Philadelphia, June 16, 1792.

Behold you, then, my dear friend, at the head of a great army establishing

the liberties of your country against a foreign enemy. May heaven favor

your cause, and make you the channel through which it may pour its

favors. While you are estimating the monster Aristocracy, and pulling out

the teeth and fangs of its associate, Monarchy, a contrary tendency is

discovered in some here. A sect has shown itself among us, who declare

they espoused our new Constitution not as a good and sufficient thing in

itself, but only as a step to an English constitution, the only thing

good and sufficient in itself, in their eye. It is happy for us that

these are preachers without followers, and that our people are firm and

constant in their republican purity. You will wonder to be told that it

is from the eastward chiefly that these champions for a king, lords, and

commons, come. They get some important associates from New York, and are

puffed up by a tribe of Agioteurs which have been hatched in a bed of

corruption made up after the model of their beloved England. Too many

of these stock-jobbers and king-jobbers have come into our Legislature,

or rather too many of our Legislature have become stock-jobbers and

king-jobbers. However, the voice of the people is beginning to make itself

heard, and will probably cleanse their seats at the ensuing election.

The machinations of our old enemies are such as to keep us still at

bay with our Indian neighbors. What are you doing for your colonies?

They will be lost, if not more effectually succored. Indeed, no future

efforts you can make will ever be able to reduce the blacks. All that

can be done, in my opinion, will be to compound with them, as has been

done formerly in Jamaica. We have been less zealous in aiding them, lest

your government should feel any jealousy on our account. But, in truth,

we as sincerely wish their restoration and their connection with you, as

you do yourselves. We are satisfied that neither your justice nor their

distresses will ever again permit their being forced to seek at dear and

distant markets those first necessaries of life which they may have at

cheaper markets, placed by nature at their door, and formed by her for

their support. What is become of Madame de Tessy and Madame de Tott? I

have not heard of them since they went to Switzerland. I think they would

have done better to have come and reposed under the poplars of Virginia.

Pour into their bosoms the warmest effusions of my friendship, and tell

them they will be warm and constant unto death. Accept of them also for

Madame de La Fayette, and your dear children; but I am forgetting that

you are in the field of war, and they I hope in those of peace. Adieu, my

dear friend. God bless you all. Yours affectionately.

TO MR. BARLOW.

Philadelphia, June 20, 1792.

Dear Sir,--Though I am in hopes you are now on the ocean home-bound, yet

I cannot omit the chance of my thanks reaching you, for your "Conspiracy

of Kings" and advice to the privileged orders, the second part of which I

am in hopes is out by this time. Be assured that your endeavors to bring

the trans-Atlantic world into the road of reason, are not without their

effect here. Some here are disposed to move retrograde, and to take their

stand in the rear of Europe, now advancing to the high ground of natural

right; but of all this your friend Mr. Baldwin gives you information, and

doubtless paints to you the indignation with which the heresies of some

people here fill us.

This will be conveyed by Mr. Pinckney, an honest, sensible man, and good

republican. He goes our Minister Plenipotentiary to London. He will arrive

at an interesting moment in Europe. God send that all the nations who join

in attacking the liberties of France may end in the attainment of their

own. I still hope this will not find you in Europe, and therefore add

nothing more than assurances of affectionate esteem from, dear Sir, your

sincere friend and servant.

TO PETER CARR.

Philadelphia, June 22, 1792.

Dear Sir,--I received in due time your favor of May 28, with the notes

it contained on the subject of Waste. Your view of the subject, as far

as it goes, is perfectly proper. Perhaps, on such a question in this

country, where the husbandry is so different, it might be necessary to go

further, and inquire whether any difference of this kind should produce

a difference in the law. The main objects of the law of waste in England

are, 1st, to prevent any disguise of the lands which might lessen the

revisioner's evidence of title, such as the change of pasture into arable;

2d, to prevent any deterioration of it, as the cutting down forest, which

in England is an injury. So careful is the law there against permitting

a deterioration of the land, that though it will permit such improvements

_in the same line_, as manuring arable lands, leading water into pasture

lands, &c., yet it will not permit improvements _in a different line_,

such as erecting buildings, converting pasture into arable, &c., lest

this should lead to a deterioration. Hence we might argue in Virginia,

that though the cutting down of forest in Virginia is, in our husbandry,

rather an improvement generally, yet it is not so always, and therefore it

is safer never to admit it. Consequently, there is no reason for adopting

different rules of waste here from those established in England.

Your objection to Lord Kaims, that he is too metaphysical, is just, and

it is the chief objection to which his writings are liable. It is to

be observed also, that though he has given us what should be the system

of equity, yet it is not the one actually established, at least not in

all its parts. The English Chancellors have gone on from one thing to

another without any comprehensive or systematic view of the whole field

of equity, and therefore they have sometimes run into inconsistencies and

contradictions.

Never fear the want of business. A man who qualifies himself well for

his calling, never fails of employment in it. The foundation you will

have laid in legal reading, will enable you to take a higher ground than

most of your competitors, and even ignorant men can see who it is that

is not one of themselves. Go on then with courage, and you will be sure

of success; for which be assured no one wishes more ardently, nor has

more sincere sentiments of friendship towards you, than, dear Sir, your

affectionate friend.

TO MR. VAN BERCKEL.

Philadelphia, July 2, 1792.

Sir,--It was with extreme concern that I learned from your letter of

June the 25th, that a violation of the protection due to you as the

representative of your nation had been committed, by an officer of this

State entering your house and serving therein a process on one of your

servants. There could be no question but that this was a breach of

privilege; the only one was, how it was to be punished. To ascertain

this, I referred your letter to the Attorney General, whose answer I

have the honor to enclose you. By this you will perceive, that from the

circumstance of your servant's not being registered in the Secretary

of State's office, we cannot avail ourselves of the more certain and

effectual proceeding which had been provided by an act of Congress for

punishing infractions of the law of nations, that act having thought

proper to confine the benefit of its provisions to such domestics only, as

should have been registered. We are to proceed, therefore, as if that act

had never been made, and the Attorney General's letter indicates two modes

of proceeding. 1. By a warrant before a single magistrate, to recover the

money paid by the servant under a process declared void by law. Herein

the servant must be the actor, and the government not intermeddle at all.

The smallness of the sum to be re-demanded will place this cause in the

class of those in which no appeal to the higher tribunal is permitted,

even in the case of manifest error, so that if the magistrate should err,

the government has no means of correcting the error. 2. The second mode

of proceeding would be, to indict the officer in the Supreme Court of the

United States; with whom it would rest to punish him at their discretion,

in proportion to the injury done and the malice from which it proceeded;

and it would end in punishment alone, and not in a restitution of the

money. In this mode of proceeding, the government of the United States is

actor, taking the management of the cause into its own hands, and giving

you no other trouble than that of bearing witness to such material facts

as may not be otherwise supported. You will be so good as to decide in

which of these two ways you would choose the proceeding should be; if

the latter, I will immediately take measures for having the offender

prosecuted according to law.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of respect, Sir, your most

obedient, and most humble servant.

TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA.

Philadelphia, July 3, 1792.

Sir,--I have the honor to enclose to your Excellency, the copy of a

letter I have received from his Catholic Majesty's representatives

here, in consequence of a complaint from the Governor of Florida, that

three inhabitants of the State of Georgia, to wit, Thomas Harrison,

David Rees, and William Ewin, had entered the Spanish territory and

brought from thence five negro slaves, the property of John Blackwood, a

Spanish subject, without his consent, in violation of the rights of that

State and the peace of the two countries. I had formerly had the honor

of sending you a copy of the convention entered into between the said

Governor and Mr. Leagrove, on the part of the United States for the mutual

restitution of fugitive slaves. I now take the liberty of requesting your

Excellency to inform me what is done, or likely to be done with you for

the satisfaction of the Spanish government in this instance. Nobody knows

better than your Excellency the importance of restraining individuals from

committing the peace and honor of the two nations, and I am persuaded that

nothing will be wanting on your part to satisfy the just expectations of

the government of Florida on the present occasion. I have the honor to

be, with great respect, your Excellency's most obedient, and most humble

servant.

TO MESSRS. DE VIAR AND JAUDENES.

Philadelphia, July 9, 1792.

Gentlemen,--Information has been received that the government of West

Florida has established an agent within the territory of the United

States, belonging to the Creek Indians, and it is even pretended that

that agent has excited those Indians to oppose the making a boundary

between their district and that of the citizens of the United States.

The latter is so inconsistent with the dispositions to friendship and

good neighborhood which Spain has always expressed towards us, with that

concert of interest which would be so advantageous to the two nations, and

which we are disposed sincerely to promote, that we find no difficulty in

supposing it erroneous. The sending an agent within our limits we presume

has been done without the authority or knowledge of your Government.

It has certainly been the usage, where one nation has wished to employ

agents of any kind within the limits of another, to obtain the permission

of that other, and even to regulate by convention and on principles of

reciprocity, the functions to be exercised by such agents. It is not

to a nation whose dominions are circumstanced as those of Spain in our

neighborhood, that we need develop the inconveniences of permitting

reciprocally the unlicensed mission of agents into the territories of each

other. I am persuaded nothing more is necessary than to bring the fact

under the notice of your Government in order to its being rectified, which

is the object of my addressing you on this occasion; with every assurance

that you will make the proper communications on the subject to your court.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of perfect esteem and respect,

Gentlemen, your most obedient, and most humble servant.

TO COLONEL HUMPHREYS.

Philadelphia, July 12, 1792.

Dear Sir,--We have been very long indeed without any vessel going from

this port to Lisbon. This is the reason why I have been so long without

acknowledging the receipt of your letters. Your Nos. from 45 to 53

inclusive are received, except No. 52, not yet come to hand. The President

set out yesterday for Virginia, and I shall follow him to-morrow. During

my absence the public papers will be forwarded to you by every opportunity

by Mr. Taylor, with whom this letter is left, as we know of no present

opportunity of forwarding it. The State of Vermont has lately taken some

decisive step to extend its jurisdiction nearer to the British ports than

has hitherto been done. This has produced a complaint from Mr. Hammond. We

shall endeavor to keep things quiet, in hopes of voluntary justice from

them. We shall probably have no campaign this year against the Indians.

There are some hopes they will accept of peace and the rather as we have

never asked anything in return for it. We really wish not to hurt them. I

need not repeat occurrences which you will see in the gazettes. I am, with

great and sincere esteem, dear Sir, your most obedient, and most humble

servant.

TO HIS EXCELLENCY GOVERNOR LEE.

Monticello, August 13, 1792.

Sir,--It was not till yesterday that I was honored with the receipt

of yours of July 23d, or it should have been sooner answered. I am of

opinion that all communications between nations should pass through the

channels of their Executives. However, in the instance of condolence on

the death of Dr. Franklin, the letter from our general government was

addressed to the President of the National Assembly; so was a letter

from the Legislature of Pennsylvania, containing congratulations on the

achievement of liberty to the French nation. I have not heard that, in

either instance, their Executive took it amiss that they were not made

the channel of communication. Perhaps, therefore, this method may at

present be the safest, as it is not quite certain that the sentiments of

their executive and legislative are exactly the same on the subject on

which you have to address them. I cannot better justify the honor of your

consultation than by thus giving you my ideas without reserve, and beg you

to be assured of the sentiments of respect and esteem, with which I have

the honor to be, your Excellency's most obedient, and most humble servant.

TO MR. PALESKE.

Monticello, August 19, 1792.

Sir,--I have received at this place your favor of the 9th instant, wherein

you request, that agreeably to the treaty of commerce between the United

States and his Prussian Majesty, his consul general be acknowledged as

belonging to a most favored nation; that the privileges and immunities

due to a consul general of the most favored nation be granted to his

consul general, and that commissioners be appointed to regulate, by

particular convention, the functions of the consuls and vice-consuls of

the respective nations.

Treaties of the United States duly made and ratified, as is that with

his Prussian Majesty, constitute a part of the law of the land, and need

only promulgation to oblige all persons to obey them, and to entitle

all to those privileges which such treaties confer. That promulgation

having taken place, no other act is necessary or proper on the part of

our government, according to our rules of proceeding, to give effect to

the treaty. This treaty, however, has not specified the privileges or

functions of consuls; it has only provided that these "shall be regulated

by particular agreement." To the proposition to proceed as speedily as

possible to regulate these functions by a convention, my absence from the

seat of government does not allow me to give a definitive answer. I know,

in general, that it would be agreeable to our government, on account of

the recent changes in its form, to suspend for awhile the contracting

specific engagements with foreign nations, until something more shall be

seen of the direction it will take, and of its mode of operation, in order

that our engagements may be so moulded to that, as to insure the exact

performance of them which we are desirous ever to observe. Should this be

the sentiment of our government on the present occasion, the friendship of

his Prussian Majesty is a sufficient reliance to us for that delay which

our affairs might require for the present; and the rather, as his vessels

are not yet in the habit of seeking our ports, and for the few cases which

may occur for some time, our own laws, copied mostly in this respect

from those of a very commercial nation, have made the most material of

those provisions which could be admitted into a special convention for

the protection of vessels, their crews and cargoes, coming hither. We

shall on this, however, and every other occasion, do everything we can to

manifest our friendship to his Prussian Majesty and our desire to promote

commercial intercourse with his subjects; and of this, we hope, he will

be fully assured.

I have the honor to be, with great respect, Sir, your most obedient, and

most humble servant.

TO THE MINISTER PLENIPOTENTIARY OF FRANCE.

August 27, 1792.

Sir,--Your letter of the 2d instant, informing me that the Legislative

body, on the proposition of the King of the French, had declared war

against the King of Hungary and Bohemia, has been duly received, and is

laid before the President of the United States; and I am authorized to

convey to you the expression of the sincere concern we feel on learning

that the French nation, to whose friendship and interests we have the

strongest attachment, are now to encounter the evils of war. We offer our

prayers to Heaven that its duration may be short, and its course marked

with as few as may be of those calamities which render the condition of

war so afflicting to humanity, and we add assurances that, during its

course, we shall continue in the same friendly dispositions, and render

all those good offices which shall be consistent with the duties of a

neutral nation.

I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect esteem and

respect, Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant.

TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

Monticello, September 9, 1792.

Dear Sir,--I received on the 2d instant the letter of August 23d,

which you did me the honor to write me; but the immediate return of our

post, contrary to his custom, prevented my answer by that occasion. The

proceedings of Spain, mentioned in your letter, are really of a complexion

to excite uneasiness, and a suspicion that their friendly overtures

about the Mississippi, have been merely to lull us while they should be

strengthening their holds on that river. Mr. Carmichael's silence has

been long my astonishment; and however it might have justified something

very different from a new appointment, yet the public interest certainly

called for his junction with Mr. Short, as it is impossible but that

his knowledge of the ground of negotiation, of persons and characters,

must be useful and even necessary to the success of the mission. That

Spain and Great Britain may understand one another on our frontiers

is very possible; for however opposite their interests or disposition

may be in the affairs of Europe, yet while these do not call them into

opposite action, they may concur as against us. I consider their keeping

an agent in the Indian country as a circumstance which requires serious

interference on our part; and I submit to your decision whether it does

not furnish a proper occasion to us to send an additional instruction to

Messrs. Carmichael and Short to insist on a mutual and formal stipulation

to forbear employing agents or pensioning any persons within each other's

limits; and if this be refused, to propose the contrary stipulation, to

wit, that each party may freely keep agents within the Indian territories

of the other, in which case we might soon sicken them of the license.

I now take the liberty of proceeding to that part of your letter wherein

you notice the internal dissensions which have taken place within our

government, and their disagreeable effect on its movements. That such

dissensions have taken place is certain, and even among those who are

nearest to you in the administration. To no one have they given deeper

concern than myself; to no one equal mortification at being myself

a part of them. Though I take to myself no more than my share of the

general observations of your letter, yet I am so desirous ever that you

should know the whole truth, and believe no more than the truth, that

I am glad to seize every occasion of developing to you whatever I do or

think relative to the government; and shall, therefore, ask permission

to be more lengthy now than the occasion particularly calls for, or could

otherwise perhaps justify.

When I embarked in the government, it was with a determination to

intermeddle not at all with the Legislature, and as little as possible

with my co-departments. The first and only instance of variance from

the former part of my resolution, I was duped into by the Secretary

of the Treasury, and made a tool for forwarding his schemes, not then

sufficiently understood by me; and of all the errors of my political life,

this has occasioned me the deepest regret. It has ever been my purpose to

explain this to you, when, from being actors on the scene, we shall have

become uninterested spectators only. The second part of my resolution has

been religiously observed with the War Department; and as to that of the

Treasury, has never been further swerved from than by the mere enunciation

of my sentiments in conversation, and chiefly among those who, expressing

the same sentiments, drew mine from me. If it has been supposed that I

have ever intrigued among the members of the Legislature to defeat the

plans of the Secretary of the Treasury, it is contrary to all truth. As

I never had the desire to influence the members, so neither had I any

other means than my friendships, which I valued too highly to risk by

usurpation on their freedom of judgment, and the conscientious pursuit of

their own sense of duty. That I have utterly, in my private conversations,

disapproved of the system of the Secretary of the Treasury, I acknowledge

and avow; and this was not merely a speculative difference. His system

flowed from principles adverse to liberty, and was calculated to undermine

and demolish the Republic, by creating an influence of his department over

the members of the Legislature. I saw this influence actually produced,

and its first fruits to be the establishment of the great outlines of his

project by the votes of the very persons who, having swallowed his bait,

were laying themselves out to profit by his plans; and that had these

persons withdrawn, as those interested in a question ever should, the

vote of the disinterested majority was clearly the reverse of what they

made it. These were no longer the votes then of the representatives of

the people, but of deserters from the rights and interests of the people;

and it was impossible to consider their decisions, which had nothing

in view but to enrich themselves, as the measures of the fair majority,

which ought always to be respected. If, what was actually doing, begat

uneasiness in those who wished for virtuous government, what was further

proposed was not less threatening to the friends of the Constitution.

For, in a report on the subject of manufactures, (still to be acted

on,) it was expressly assumed that the General Government has a right to

exercise all powers which may be for the _general welfare_, that is to

say, all the legitimate powers of government; since no government has a

legitimate right to do what is not for the welfare of the governed. There

was, indeed, a sham limitation of the universality of this power _to cases

where money is to be employed_. But about what is it that money cannot be

employed? Thus the object of these plans, taken together, is to draw all

the powers of government into the hands of the general Legislature, to

establish means for corrupting a sufficient corps in that Legislature to

divide the honest votes, and preponderate, by their own, the scale which

suited, and to have the corps under the command of the Secretary of the

Treasury, for the purpose of subverting, step by step, the principles of

the Constitution which he has so often declared to be a thing of nothing,

which must be changed. Such views might have justified something more than

mere expressions of dissent, beyond which, nevertheless, I never went. Has

abstinence from the department, committed to me, been equally observed by

him? To say nothing of other interferences equally known, in the case of

the two nations, with which we have the most intimate connections, France

and England, my system was to give some satisfactory distinctions to the

former, of little cost to us, in return for the solid advantages yielded

us by them; and to have met the English with some restrictions which might

induce them to abate their severities against our commerce. I have always

supposed this coincided with your sentiments. Yet the Secretary of the

Treasury, by his cabals with members of the Legislature, and by high-toned

declamations on other occasions, has forced down his own system, which was

exactly the reverse. He undertook, of his own authority, the conferences

with the ministers of those two nations, and was, on every consultation,

provided with some report of a conversation with the one or the other

of them, adapted to his views. These views, thus made to prevail, their

execution fell, of course, to me; and I can safely appeal to you, who

have seen all my letters and proceedings, whether I have not carried

them into execution as sincerely as if they had been my own, though I

ever considered them as inconsistent with the honor and interest of our

country. That they have been inconsistent with our interest is but too

fatally proved by the stab to our navigation given by the French. So that

if the question be by whose fault is it that Colonel Hamilton and myself

have not drawn together? the answer will depend on that to two other

questions, whose principles of administration best justify, by their

purity, conscientious adherence? and which of us has, notwithstanding,

stepped farthest into the control of the department of the other?

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