SECOND NIGHT--TUESDAY, JUNE 14.

MR. THOMPSON, before proceeding with the discusssion, would make one

or two preliminary observations. Last evening he had been led into an

error, as regarded both number and time, in speaking of the amount of

slaves in America at the adoption of the Constitution; and he was

anxious that every statement made by him should be without a flaw; and

if there should be an error committed he would be the first person to

admit and correct it when discovered. He stated that at the adoption

of the American Constitution, there were only about three hundred

thousand slaves in the United States. There were not many more in

1776, when the states declared themselves independent: in 1788 when

the Constitution was settled there were more; and in 1790, there were

between six and seven hundred thousand slaves in the United States of

America. His error consisted in his subtracting 1776 from 1790, and

saying twenty-four years instead of fourteen. He mentioned this error

to show that he held a regard to truth to be the ultimate end of their

discussion. There was one other preliminary remark. His antagonist had

repeatedly said that George Thompson had published himself a martyr.

George Thompson never did publish himself a martyr. Mr. Breckinridge,

in the course of his speeches last night, had said more of himself

than he (Mr. T.) had ever done during all the speeches he had ever

made on the question. He had only referred to himself when urgently

requested to give an account of his personal experience. He never had

a wish to be considered a martyr. If, when he had finished his course

here; if, when this probationary scene was over, he was found to have

done his duty, he would be fully satisfied. He was not pharasaical

enough to imagine that he had performed any works of supererogation.

Mr. Breckinridge had said this was not a national question; that

slavery in America was not American Slavery; that it was not a

national evil; that it was not a national sin; that is was merely a

question between the State Legislatures and the slave owners. He (Mr.

T.) had said last night, that slavery in America was a national sin,

and he would now adduce the reasons for his statement:--First--The

American people had admitted the slave states into the Union; and by

consenting to admit these states into the confederacy, although there

were in them hundreds of thousands in a state of slavery, they took

the slaves under the government of the United States, and made the sin

national. Second--For twenty years after the adoption of their

Constitution, and by virtue of that very instrument, the United States

permitted the horrid, unchristian, diabolical African slave-trade.

Third--Than the Capital of the United States of America there was not

one spot in the whole world which was more defiled by slavery; and

considering the professions and privileges of the people, there was

not a more anti-christian traffic on the face of the earth.

Fourth--each of the states is bound by the Constitution to give up all

run-away slaves; so that the poor, wretched, tortured slave might be

pursued from Baltimore to Pennsylvania, from thence to New Jersey and

New York, and dragged even from the confines of Canada, a fugitive and

a felon, back into the slavery from which he had fled. He might be

taken from the Capitol: from the very horns of the altar, to be

subjected by a cruel kidnapper to the most horrid of human sufferings.

It is not a national question! When the North violates the law of

God--when it tramples on the Decalogue--when it defies Jehovah! what

was a stronger injunction in the law of Moses than that the Israelites

should protect the run-away slave? But in America every state was

bound by law to give up the slave to his slave-master, to his ruthless

pursuer; and yet it must not be called a national question! Fifth--The

citizens of the free states were bound to go South to put down any

insurrection among the slaves. They were bound and pledged to do this

when required. The youth of Pennsylvania had pledged themselves to go

to the Southern states to annihilate the blacks in case they asserted

their rights--the rights of every human being--to be free. So also was

it in New York, and in the other free states, and yet we are to be

told that slavery is not a national question. The whole Union was

bound to crush the slave, who, standing on the ashes of Washington

said, he ought to be, and would be free. Yes, Northern bayonets would

give that slave a speedy manumission from his galling yoke, by sending

him in his gore, where the wicked cease from troubling and the weary

are at rest. Yet it is not a national question! Sixth--The North is

taxed to keep up troops in the South to overawe and terrify the slave;

and yet it is not a national question! Seventh--Mr. Breckinridge has

shown in a letter published by him, that the Congress has the power to

put an end to the international slave trade, and yet this trade goes

on in America. Mr. B. well knows that at least one hundred thousand

human beings--slaves--change hands annually; he must have seen the

slaves driven in coffles through his own beloved state, to be sold

like cattle at Washington and Alexandria; he knows that thousands of

Virginia and Maryland slaves are sold at New Orleans yearly, and yet

he tells us that slavery is not a national question! Eighth--How did

they admit Missouri into the Union with slaves? Were they Southern

votes which admitted it? No! But they were the votes of recreant New

Englanders--false to the principles of freedom, who sold the honor of

their country, and with it the liberty of thousands of human beings in

Missouri--or at least consented to their bondage. And yet it is not a

national question! He (Mr. T.) would last refer to the remarks of a

constitutional lawyer, who was able, eloquent, sincere, and high

minded. Mr. T. then read the following extract:--

Such thoughts (referring to the judgments to be expected)

habitually crowd upon me when I contemplate those great

personal and NATIONAL evils, from which the system of

operations (vis., the movements of the Colonization Society)

which I stand here to advocate, seems to offer us some

prospect of deliverance.

From that day (1698) till the present, there have flourished

in our country, men of large and just views, who have not

ceased to pour over this subject a stream of clear and noble

truth, and to importune their country, by every motive of

duty and advantage, to wipe from her escutcheon, the stain of

human tears.

It is generally known, that the original members of the

American Colonization Society anticipated, that, at some

future period, the General Government, and some, if not all

the State Governments, would co-operate in their exertions

for the removal of an evil which was obviously NATIONAL in

all its aspects.

Now who was the writer from whom he had quoted?--His friend Mr.

Breckinridge. This was his final reason. If Mr. Breckinridge's

argument survived these reasons, it would have a life like that of a

cat, which is said to have nine lives; for they were nine fatal

thrusts at his position, that slavery in America was not American

slavery. Mr. B. admits the existence of slavery, but lays no blame

either in this quarter or in that; he does not lay it on the states,

nor on the General Government. Slavery does exist in America,

but--interminably; but, but--coming as these buts did from a

temperance country, he wondered much that they had escaped being

staved. Slavery exists in America, but it is not a national question!

There are upwards of two millions and a half of slaves in the United

States of America, and of these, at least one hundred thousand changed

hands annually, thus sundering, without remorse, the tenderest ties of

human nature; at whose door, then, lay the guilt of this sin? To whom

were the people of this country to address their warnings--over whose

transgressions were they to mourn--whose hearts were they to endeavor

to humanize and mollify--where were the responsible and guilty parties

to be found--how are we to get access to their consciences on behalf

of the slave? Mr. Breckinridge says the system is one of 'clear

robbery,' 'universal concubinage,'--'unmitigated wickedness'--and yet

it is not to be immediately abolished! If it be clear robbery--if it

be universal concubinage--if it be unmitigated wickedness--let the

horrid system immediately, and totally, and eternally cease--a worse

system it was impossible to have if these were the evils it entailed.

Mr. B. triumphantly makes out my case for immediate and complete

emancipation. The duty is plain and indispensable. Mr. Breckinridge

says the abolitionists are the most despicable and odious men on the

face of the earth. Those who love liberty are always odious in the

eyes of tyrants. The lovers of things as they are, of corruption of

despotism--men who look at every thing from beneath the aprons of

their grandmothers, invariably regard as insufferably odious all who

are lovers of reformation and liberty. This always has been, and

always will be the case. As it was said in the service of the church

of England, it might be said on this subject, 'As it was in the

beginning, is now, and ever shall be' if not 'world without end,' at

least to the end of this world. On the 6th day of January, 1831, Mr.

Breckinridge delivered in Frankfort, Kentucky, an able address in

favor of the Colonization Society. In that address, Mr. B. stated that

the Society was established on the 21st day of Dec. 1816, and was of

course, at the time of his speech, fourteen years and sixteen days

old. Mr. Breckinridge said the legislatures of eleven states of the

Union had recommended this Society to Congress; that the

ecclesiastical tribunals of all the leading sects of Christians in

America had testified their approbation of its principles; and yet

there were, after fourteen years and sixteen days, with all this

support and high patronage in church and state only one hundred and

sixty auxiliary societies existing throughout the Union. Now, as to

the contemptible and odious abolitionists! as they were called by the

gentleman who differed from him. The National Society for the

immediate abolition of American slavery, was formed on the 6th of Dec.

1833; and on the 12th of May, 1835, when the anniversary was

held--without being recommended to Congress by any of the state

legislatures--without a testimony of approbation from any of the

ecclesiastical tribunals--being only one year and six months old--how

many auxiliary societies were connected with this abolition

organization? Two hundred and twenty-four. That was the number then on

the books of the Society; and the Secretary said the whole of them

were not inserted from the want of proper returns. In a letter

addressed to him (Mr. T.) by the Secretary of the American

Anti-Slavery Society, dated New York, 31st March, 1836, were the

following words:--

Never were societies forming in all parts of our country with

greater rapidity. At this moment we have four hundred and

fifty on our list, and doubtless, there are five hundred in

existence. We have at this time eleven agents in the field,

all good men and true, and all fast gaining converts.

And yet the abolitionists are a handful! The one society in fourteen

years and sixteen days, having one hundred and sixty auxiliaries; the

other in two years and three months, having, without the support of

state legislatures, or of ecclesiastical tribunals, not fewer than

five hundred; and yet the abolitionists are a handful. He (Mr. T.)

held in his hand a list of delegates to the New England Convention

which was held in the city of Boston, on the 25th of May, 1835. In

that list he found two hundred and eighty-one gentlemen, who, at their

own expense, had come from all parts of New England, to attend that

Convention. On the 27th May, it was stated that the Massachusetts

Society were in want of funds, and a committee was appointed to

collect subscriptions. That committee in less than an hour obtained

$1,800, and on the following day, $4,000, for the American Society. In

New York, at the anniversary, there had been collected $14,500--and

yet the abolitionists were a handful. The American Society at its

anniversary, had collected a larger sum than was collected by all the

other societies together, during the week set apart for the purpose;

and in Boston, $6,000 had been collected in two days; whilst in two

months, a friend of Mr. B's, viz. Mr. Gurley, had only been able to

collect, in the same city, about $600 for the Colonization Society. By

their fruits shall ye know them; do men gather grapes of thorns, or

figs of thistles? You may send to New England any foreigner you

please--but he must show his cause to be sound and practicable before

he can draw a dollar or a cent from a New Englander, who gets his

bread by early rising, and laborious attention to business--yet $6,000

were collected in two days. But the abolitionists are a mere handful!

Yes--they may be a handful, but they are most precious and multyplying

seed. Mr. B. said that many of the slave-owners were doing all they

could for the emancipation of the slaves; whether they were doing any

thing or nothing, we find New Englanders had endeavored to retrieve

the honor of their country, by a subscription for emancipation of

$6,000 in two days--and yet it was said, they were an odious handful!

When he saw the Colonization Society like a Juggernaut, endeavoring to

crush the bodies and spirits of colored men and colored women, he

would league himself with the despised and 'odious handful,' and labor

with them, and for them, till, by the blessing of God, on their

exertions, the slaves were elevated to the condition and dignity of

intelligent and intellectual beings. Mr. T. would give another proof

that the abolitionists were a handful of most odious creatures. He

would refer to the New York Convention. Mr. B. knows well that the

pro-slavery prints pointed forward to the New York Convention in

October last, as likely to be a scene of blood. Not rendered so by the

abolitionists, for they were men of peace, but by the fury of their

opponents. Notwithstanding, there were six hundred delegates assembled

in Utica, at 9 o'clock, on the first day; and when they were driven

from that city by a mob, headed by the Hon. Mr. Beardsley, member of

Congress, and by the Hon. Mr. Hayden, Judge of the county--and the

greater part of them went to Peterborough, these six hundred were

joined by other four hundred, making one thousand delegates, for one

state--and yet they were a mere handful. He would next refer to the

Rhode Island Convention, at which, though held in the smallest State

in the Union--in the depth of winter--and at a time when many of the

roads were impassible through a heavy fall of snow, four hundred

delegates attended, and $2,000 were collected--but yet the

abolitionists were a mere handful! Gerrit Smith had said that there

was an accession to the anti-slavery societies, in the State of New

York alone, of five hundred weekly, among whom he says, there is not

known one intemperate or profane person;--five hundred weekly added to

one state society--yet they are a mere handful! If they go on

increasing at this rate in New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and

throughout New England, they will not long be a small handful!

Besides, many of those who were formerly on the side of colonization,

have now come over to the ranks of the abolitionists. Where are now

the Smiths, and Birneys, and Jays, and Coxs, that once were the

eloquent and munificent advocates and patrons of the Colonization

Society? They are now, with all their souls and energies, on the side

of immediate abolition. Nor these alone. He might--he ought to name

such men as President Green, and Professors Wright, Bush, Follen,

Smyth, and Gregg. He ought to speak of a Leavitt in New York, a Kirk

in Albany, a Beman in Troy, a Weld in Ohio, a Garrison in New England;

and of a Mrs. Child, a Mrs. Chapman, a John G. Whittier, a May, a

Dickinson, a Phelps, a Goodell, a Bourne, a Lundy, a Loring, a Sewall,

and a host of others. All these men esteemed it their joy and honor to

be amongst the most odious of the contemptible handful referred to.

These were men of mind, of piety, of influence, of energy; men not to

be deterred from doing their duty by the harsh music of the birds of

ill omen, from the Upas Tree of Slavery, who sent forth their

croakings, by night and by day, to scare the nation from its

indispensable work of Justice and Truth--and yet these men are odious

and contemptible! Your agent, too, is contemptible--he was the agent

of the 'goodies' of Glasgow--and--his fair auditors could scarcely

believe what epithets were lavishly bestowed on him and them--yet

their agent, as contemptible as he was, was, perhaps, the only

Englishman, who had ever been honored as he had been by the President

of the United States of America. He who was so contemptible in the

eyes of the Americans--who was a most impetuous, and untameable, and

worthless animal--who was the representative of the 'goodies' and

superannuated maids and matrons of Glasgow--was honored by a notice

and a rebuke in the message to Congress of the President of the United

States! This looked much like being insignificant and contemptible! He

did not seek the honor which had been thus conferred upon him--it came

upon him unaware--but he had not therefore refused it. It was an honor

to be persecuted in the United States with the abolitionists of 1830.

And when their children, and their children's children looked back

upon these persecutions, they would exult and be proud to say they

were the sons, the grandsons, or the great grandsons of the Coxs, the

Jays, the Garrisons, the Tappans, and the Thompsons of England and

America. After alluding to the treatment he had experienced from the

New York Courier and Enquirer, Mr. T. said--let us bear these honors

meekly--when calumniated for truth's sake, let us be humble, while we

are joyful. One word more as to the odious handful. Seven-eights of

the Methodist Episcopal ministers in the New Hampshire Conference,

and seven-eights of the New England Conference were abolitionists. The

students of the colleges and institutions, academical and theological

of the country, known by the names of Lane Seminary, Oberlin

Institute, Western Reserve College, Oneida Institute, Waterville

College, Brunswick College, Amherst College, and the Seminaries of

Andover, were many of them in some, and all of them in others,

abolitionists; and yet, when all these societies, and ministers, and

men of learning, and students were put together, they were, in their

aggregate capacity, but an odious and most contemptible handful! He

would now proceed to speak of the Maryland scheme--a scheme of obvious

wickedness. When Mr. B. came to Boston to advocate that scheme, he

says a placard was published, calling on the rabble to mob him. This

placard he attributes to Mr. Garrison and the abolitionists, as he

says it was of the same size and appearance as the type and columns of

the Liberator newspaper, and that therefore Mr. Garrison was the

publisher. This he (Mr. T.) most pointedly, and distinctly, and

solemnly denied, and challenged Mr. B. to the proof. Did Mr. B. show

the placard? No. Did he demonstrate its identity with Mr. Garrison's

paper? No. He had not done so. To make Mr. Garrison the author or

publisher of such a placard, was to publish him a coward and a

villain; for he who could point out any man, still more a Christian

minister, to the fury of a mob, was a moral monster, a coward, and a

villain. He called on Mr. B. by his regard for truth and justice, and

his reputation as a minister of Christ, to adduce the proofs necessary

to sustain so grave an accusation, and he (Mr. T.) pledged himself to

cast off the dearest friend he had, if a crime so base could be fixed

on him. To return to the Maryland scheme. In the month of July or

August, 1834, Boston was visited by his respected opponent, his

brother, Dr. J. Breckinridge, and an agent of the Maryland

Colonization Society, and a meeting was convened to enable those

gentlemen to set forth and recommend the scheme of that Society, in

aid of which the legislature of Maryland had made an appropriation of

$200,000. He (Mr. T.) was fully prepared to show, that the object of

the Society was to get rid of the free colored population, and that

according to their design the state legislature had, in immediate

connection with the grant of money, passed most rigorous and cruel

laws. The Colonization Society was the net cast for the colored

people--the laws of the state were the means devised to drive the

devoted victims into its meshes. This was called helping them out of

the country with their free consent. He (Mr. T.) would bring forward

abundant proofs when he next addressed them--he would then read the

laws which he could not now produce for want of time. Mr. Breckinridge

might or might not notice these general charges against the Maryland

scheme; but he (Mr. T.) would hereafter fully support them, and show,

too, that the National Colonization Society was equally culpable,

having at its ensuing annual meeting fully approved of the plan, and

recommended it as a bright example for the imitation of other states.

* * * * *

MR. BRECKINRIDGE then rose. He had last night understood Mr. Thompson

to say, that this evening he would take up and expose the colonization

scheme. It was possible that he had been wrong in this; but such was

certainly the impression made upon his mind. Instead of adopting such

a course, however, Mr. Thompson had treated them to a second edition

of his last night's speech the only difference being that the one they

had just heard was more elaborate. If they were to be called on to

hear all Mr. Thompson's speeches twice, it would be a considerable

time before they finished the discussion. He congratulated Mr.

Thompson on his second edition, being in some respects an improvement,

on his first. It was certainly better arranged. In the observations he

was about to make, he would follow the course of the argument

exhibited in Mr. Thompson's two speeches; but he, at the same time,

wished it to be understood that he would not be cast out of the line

of discussion every night in the same manner. As to what had been said

about the 'handful,' he did not think it necessary to say much. He

would simply remind Mr. T., that however great or however small the

'handful' might be, one pervading evil might pollute it all. A dead

fly could cause the ointment of the apothecary to stink. But to come

to the point. Mr. Thompson had said that the question was national as

it respected America, because slaveholding states had been admitted

into the confederacy. The simple fact of these states having been

admitted members of the Union, was, in Mr. Thompson's estimation,

proof sufficient, not only that slavery was chargeable on the whole

nation, but that there had been a positive predilection among the

American people in favor of slavery. In clearing up this point, a

little chronological knowledge would help us. He would therefore call

the attention of the audience to the real state of matters when the

confederacy was established. At that period, Massachusetts was the

only State in which slavery had been abolished; and even in

Massachusetts its formal abolition was not effected till some time

after. For in that State it came to an end in consequence of a clause

inserted in the Constitution itself--tantamount to the one in our

Declaration of Independence, that freedom is a natural and inalienable

right. Successive judicial decisions, upon this clause, without any

special legislation, had abolished slavery there; so that the exact

period of its actual termination is not easily definable. This recalls

another point on which Mr. Thompson would have been the better of

possessing a little chronological information. He had repeatedly

stated that the American Constitution was founded on the principle,

that all men are created free and equal. Now, this was not so. The

principle was no doubt, a just one; it was asserted most fully by the

Continental Congress of 1776, and might be said to form the basis of

our Declaration of Independence. But it was not contained in the

American Constitution, which was formed twelve years afterwards. That

Constitution was formed in accordance with the circumstances in which

the different states were placed. Its chief object was to guard

against external injury, and regulate external affairs; it interfered

as little as possible with the internal regulations of each state. The

American was a federative system of government; twenty-four distinct

republics were united for certain purposes, and for these alone. So

far was the national government from possessing unlimited powers, that

the Constitution itself was but a very partial grant of those, which,

in their omnipotence, resided, according to our theory, only in the

people themselves in their primary assemblies. It had been specially

agreed in the Constitution itself, that the powers not delegated

should be as expressly reserved, as if excepted by name; and, amongst

the chief subjects, exclusively interior, and not delegated, and so

reserved, is slavery. Had this not been the case, the confederacy

could not have been formed. It had been said that the American

Constitution had not only tolerated slavery, but that it had actually

guaranteed the slave-trade for twenty years. Nothing could be more

uncandid than this statement. Never had facts been more perverted. One

of the causes of the American Revolution had been the refusal of the

British King to sanction certain arrangements on which some of the

states wished to enter, for the abolition of the slave-trade. At the

formation of the Federal Constitution, while slavery was excluded from

the control of Congress, as a purely state affair, the slave trade was

deemed a fit subject, by the majority, for the executors of national

power, as being an exterior affair. And at a period prior to the very

commencement of that great plan of individual effort, guided by

Wilberforce and Clarkson, in Britain; and which required twenty years

to rouse the conscience of this nation--our distant, and now traduced

fathers, had already made up their minds, that this horrid traffic,

which they found not only existing, but encouraged by the whole power

of the King, should be abolished. It was granted, perhaps too readily

to the claims of those who thought, (as nearly the whole world

thought) that twenty years should be the limit of the trade; and at

the end of that period it was instantly prohibited, as a matter

course, and by unanimous consent. How unjust then was it to charge on

America, as a crime, what was one of the brightest virtues in her

escutcheon. Mr. Thompson had next asserted, that slavery of the most

horrid description existed in the Capital of America, and in the

surrounding District, subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of

Congress. He (Mr. Breckinridge) did not hesitate to deny this. It was

not true. Slavery did exist there; but it was not of the horrible

character which had been represented. It was well known that the

slavery existing in the United States was the mildest to be seen in

any country under Heaven. Nothing but the most profound ignorance

could lead any one to assert the contrary. Mr. Thompson had a

colleague in his recent exhibitions in London, who seemed to have

taken interludes in all Mr. T's speeches. In one of these, that

colleague had said, he knew of his own knowledge a case, in which a

man had given $500 for a slave, in order to burn him alive! Mr.

Thompson, no doubt knew, that even on the supposition that such a

monster was to be found, he was liable in every part of the United

States, to be hanged as any other murderer. Slavery was bad enough

anywhere; but to say that it was more unmitigated in America than in

the West Indies, where emigration had always been necessary to keep up

the numbers, while in America, the slave population increased faster

than any part of the human race, was a gross exaggeration, or a proof

of the profoundest ignorance. To say that the slavery of the District

of Columbia was the most horrid that ever existed, when it, along with

the whole of the slavery on that continent, was so hedged about by

human laws, that in every one of the states cruelty to the slave was

punished as an offence against the state; the killing of a slave was

punished every where with death; while in all ages, and nearly in all

countries where slavery has existed besides, the master was not only

the exclusive judge of the treatment of his slave, but the absolute

disposer of his life, which he could take away at will; these

statements can proceed only from unpardonable ignorance, or a purpose

to mislead. As to the abolition of slavery in the District of

Columbia, there might, at first sight, appear to be some grounds of

accusation; but yet, when the subject was considered in all its

bearings, so many pregnant, if not conclusive, reasons presented

themselves against interference, that though much attention had been

bestowed upon it for many years, the result had been that nothing was

done. It was to be recollected that the whole District of Columbia was

only ten miles square; and that it was surrounded by states in which

slavery was still legalized. It was thus clear, that though slavery

were abolished in Columbia, not an individual of the six thousand

slaves now within its bounds, would necessarily be relieved of his

fetters. Were an abolition bill to pass the House of Representatives

to-day, the whole six thousand could be removed to a neighboring slave

state before it could be taken up in the Senate to-morrow. It was,

therefore, worse than idle to say so much on what could never be a

practical question. Again; the District of Columbia had been ceded to

the General Government by Maryland and Virginia, both slaveholding

states, for national purposes; but this would never have been done had

it been contemplated that Congress would abolish slavery within its

bounds, and thus establish a nucleus of anti-slavery agitation in the

heart of their territory. The exercise of such a power, therefore, on

the part of Congress, could be viewed in no other light than as a

gross fraud on those two states. It should never be forgotten that

slavery can be abolished in any part of America only by the persuasive

power of truth voluntarily submitted to the slaveholders themselves.

And though much is said in that country, and still more here, about

the criminality of the Northern States in not declaring that they

would not aid in the suppression of a servile war--such declamation is

worse than idle. But there is a frightful meaning in this unmeasured

abuse heaped by Mr. Thompson on the people of the free states, for

their expressions of devotion to the Union and the Constitution, and

their determination to aid, if necessary, in suppressing by force--all

force used by, or on behalf of the slaves. Is it then true, that Mr.

Thompson and his American friends, did contemplate a servile war? If

not, why denounce the North for saying it should be suppressed? Were

the people of America right when they charged him and his co-workers

with stirring up insurrection? If not, why lavish every epithet of

contempt and abhorrence upon those who have declared their readiness

to put a stop to the indiscriminate slaughter and pillage of a region

as large as Western Europe? Such speeches as that I have this night

heard go far to warrant all that has ever been said against this

individual in America, and to excuse those who considered him a

general disturber of their peace, and were disposed to proceed against

him accordingly. It was, however, the opinion of many that Congress

had no power to abolish slavery in the District of Columbia. Mr. B.

said his opinion was different; yet it must be admitted that the

obstacles to the exercise of this power were of the most serious kind,

and such as, to a candid mind, would free those who hesitated, from

the charge of being pro-slavery men. Perhaps the great reason against

the exercise of that power, even if its existence in Congress were

clear, was, that it would inevitably produce a dissolution of the

Union. When he spoke of the free states bringing about the abolition

of slavery in the South, he was to be understood as meaning that these

states, in accordance with what had been so often hinted at, should

march to the South with arms in their hands, and declare the slaves

free. Now, even supposing that the people of the North had no regard

for the peace of their country--that they were perfectly indifferent

to the glory, the power, and the happiness resulting from the Federal

Union--was it certain, that by adopting such a course, they would

really advance the welfare of the slave? Every candid man would at

once see that the condition of the slave population would be made more

hopeless than ever by it. The fourth proof brought forward by Mr.

Thompson, in support of his proposition that America was chargeable,

in a national point of view, with the guilt of slavery, was the fact

that the different states were bound to restore all run-away slaves.

But this was a regulation which applied to the case of all servants

who leave their masters in an improper manner. Apprentices, children,

even wives, if it might be supposed that a wife would ever leave her

husband, were to be restored as well as the slaves. Were this not

provided, the different states would form to each other the most

horrible neighborhood that could be imagined. No state is expected to

say, that any man is of right or should be 'held to service' of any

kind, in another state; for such are the words of the Constitution.

But the purely internal arrangements of each state, must necessarily

be respected by all the others; or eternal border wars must be the

result. In the re-delivery of a run-away slave, or apprentice,

therefore, the court of the one state is only required to say what are

the law, and the fact of the other state from which the claimant

comes, and to decide accordingly. And when Mr. T. says that this

proceeding is not only contrary to the spirit of the gospel, but to

the express command of God under the Jewish dispensation, I need only

to defend the practice, by questioning his biblical capacities, and

referring for explanation to his second printed speech before the

Glasgow Emancipation Society. In that, he states a fictitious case as

regards Ireland--resembling remarkably the case recorded in holy writ,

of Egypt under the government of Joseph; and while all men have

thought that Joseph came from God, and was peculiarly approved of

him--Mr. T. has represented, that he who should do in Ireland, very

much what Joseph did in Egypt, could be considered as coming only

'from America, or from the bottomless pit!!!' As long as the Holy

Ghost gives men reason to consider certain principles right, they may

be well content to abide under the wrath of Mr. Thompson. Mr. Thompson

said, in the fifth place, that slavery was a national crime, because

the states were all bound to assist each other, in suppressing

internal insurrection. To this he would answer, that as it regarded

the duty of the nation to the several states, there were two, and but

two great guarantees--namely, the preservation of internal peace, and

the upholding of republican institutions, tranquillity, and

republicanism. Carolina was as much bound to assist Rhode Island as

Rhode Island was to assist Carolina. All were mutually bound to each;

and if things went on as of late, the South were as likely to be

called on to suppress mobs at the North, as the North to suppress

insurrection at the South. It was next advanced by Mr. T. that the

people of the North were taxed for the support of slavery. Now, the

fact was, that America presented the extraordinary spectacle of a

nation free of taxes altogether; free of debt, with an overflowing

Treasury, with so much money, indeed, that they did not well know what

to do with it. It was almost needless to explain that the American

revenue was at present and had been for many years past, derived

solely from the sale of public lands, and from the customs or duties

levied on imported articles of various kinds. The payment of these

duties was entirely a voluntary tax, as in order to avoid it, it was

only necessary to refrain from the use of articles on which they were

imposed. As for Mr. T's argument about the standing army, employed in

keeping down the slaves, its value might be judged from the fact,

that, though even according to Mr. T's own showing, the slave

population amounted to two and a half millions, the army was composed

of only six thousand men, scattered along three frontiers, extending

two thousand miles each. Throughout the whole slaveholding states

there were not probably fifteen hundred soldiers. The charge was, in

fact, complete humbug, founded upon just nothing at all. Mr.

Thompson's seventh charge was, that Congress refused to suppress the

internal slave-trade. This was easily answered. There was in America

not one individual among five hundred who believed that Congress had

the power to do so. And, although he (Mr. B.) believed that Congress

had power to prevent the migration of slaves from state to state, as

fully as they had to prevent the importation of them into the states

from foreign countries; and that the exercise of this power, would

prevent, in a great degree, the trade in slaves from state to state,

yet very few concurred with him even in this modified view of the

case. And it must be admitted that the exercise of such a power, if

it really exists, would be attended with such results of unmixed evil

at this time, that no one whatever would deem it proper to attempt, or

possible to enforce its exercise. It was next said, that as Missouri,

a slaveholding state, had been admitted into the Union after the full

consideration of the subject by Congress, therefore the nation had

become identified with slavery, and responsible for its existence, at

least in Missouri. But on the supposition that, before receiving

Missouri as a member of the confederacy, it had been demanded of her

that she should abolish slavery; and supposing Missouri had acceded to

the terms proposed, that she had really given her slaves freedom, and

been added to the Federal Union in consequence: suppose Missouri had

done all this; what was there to prevent her from re-establishing

slavery so soon as the end she sought was gained. No power was

possessed by the other states in the matter, and all that could have

been said was, that Missouri had acted with bad faith--that she had

broken a condition precedent--that she had given just cause of war.

According to the most latitudinarian notions, this was the extent of

the remedy in the hands of Congress. But Mr. Thompson, being a holder

of peace principles--if we may judge by his published speeches--must

admit it to be as really a sin to kill, as to enslave men; so that, in

his own showing, this argument amounts to nothing. But when it is

considered that every state in the American Union has the recognized

right to alter its Constitution, when, and how it may think fit,

saving only that it be republican; it is most manifest that Congress

and the other states have, and could have in no case, any more power

or right to prevent Missouri's continuing, or creating slavery, than

they had to prevent Massachusetts from abolishing it. But, if we were

to stand upon the mere rights of war, he (Mr. B.) did not know but

that America had just cause of war against Britain, according to the

received notions on that subject, in the speeches delivered by Mr.

Thompson under the connivance of the authorities here. But the causes

of war were very different in the opinions of men, and in the eye of

God. If Mr. Thompson was right in condemning America for the guilt of

Missouri, then they should go to war at once and settle the question.

But, if they were not ready for this conclusion, they could do

nothing. In the edition of Mr. Thompson's speech which had been

delivered on the preceding evening, an argument had been adduced which

was omitted in the present. The argument to which he referred, was

concerning the right of the slaves to be represented. A slight

consideration of the subject might have shown that the whole power

over the subject of citizenship in each state, was exclusive in the

state itself, and was differently regulated in different states. In

some, the elective franchise was given to all who had attained the age

of twenty-one. In some, it was made to depend on the possession of

personal property; and in others, of real property. That in the

Southern states, the power of voting should be given to the masters,

and not to the slaves, was not calculated to excite surprise in

Britain, where such a large proportion of the population, and that in

a number of instances composed of men of high intelligence, were not

entitled to the elective franchise. The origin of this arrangement,

like many others involved in our social system, was a compromise of

apparently conflicting interests in the states which were engaged in

forming the Federal Constitution. The identity of taxation and

representation, was the grand idea on which the nation went into the

war of independence. When it was agreed that all white citizens, and

three-fifths of all other persons, as the Constitution expresses it,

should be represented, it followed of course, that they should be

subject to taxation. Or, if it were first agreed that they should be

taxed, it followed as certainly they should be represented. Who should

actually cast the votes, was, of necessity, left to be determined by

the states themselves, and as has been said, was variously determined;

many permitting free negroes, Indians, and mulattos, who are all

embraced, as well as slaves, to vote. That three-fifths, instead of

any other part, or the whole should be agreed on, was, no doubt, the

result of reasons which appeared conclusive to the wise and benevolent

men who made the Constitution; but I am not able to tell what they

were. It must, however, be very clear, that to accuse my country, in

one breath, for treating the negroes, bond and free, as if they were

not human beings at all--and to accuse her in the next, of fostering

and encouraging slavery, for allowing so large a proportion of the

blacks to be a part of the basis of national representation in all the

states, and then, in the third, because the whole are not so treated,

to be more abusive than ever--is merely to show plainly, how earnestly

an occasion is sought to traduce America, and how hard it is to find

one. He came now to the last charge. He himself, it seems, had

admitted, on former occasions, that slavery was a national evil. He

certainly did believe that the people of America, whether anti-slavery

or pro-slavery, would be happier and better, in conscience and

feelings, were slavery abolished. He believed that every interest

would be benefited by such an event, whether political, moral, or

social. The existence of slavery was one of the greatest evils of the

world, but it was not the crime of all the world. Though, therefore,

he considered slavery a national evil, it was not to be inferred that

he viewed it as a national crime. The cogency of such an argument was

equal to the candor of the citation on which it was founded. He would

now come to matters rather more personal. In enumerating the great

numbers of anti-slavery societies in America, Mr. Thompson had paraded

one as formed in Kentucky, for the whole state. Now, he would venture

to say that there were not ten persons in that whole State, holding

anti-slavery principles, in the Garrison sense of the word. If this

was to be judged a fair specimen of the hundreds of societies boasted

of by Mr. Thompson, there would turn out but a beggarly account of

them. He found also the name of Groton, Massachusetts, as the location

of one of the societies in the boasted list. He had once preached, and

spoken on the subject of slavery, in that sweet little village, and

been struck with the scene of peace and happiness which it presented.

He afterwards met the clergyman of that village in the city of

Baltimore, and asked him what had caused him to leave the field of his

labors. The clergyman answered, that the anti-slavery people had

invaded his peaceful village, and transformed it into such a scene of

strife that he preferred to leave it. And so it was. The pestilence,

which, like a storm of fire and brimstone from hell, always followed

the track of abolitionism, had overtaken many a peaceful village, and

driven its pastor to seek elsewhere a field not yet blasted by it. He

would conclude by remarking, that Mr. Thompson and he (Mr. B.) were

now speaking, as it were, in the face of two worlds, for Western

Europe was the world to America. And it was for England to know--that

the opinion of America--that America which already contained a larger

reading population than the whole of Britain--was as important to her,

as hers could be to us. What he had said of Mr. Garrison and of Mr.

Wright, he had said; and he was ready to answer for it in the face of

God and man. But he had something else to do, he thanked God, than to

go about the country carrying placards, ready to be produced on all

occasions. Nor where he was known, was such a course needful, to

establish what he said. When those gentlemen should make their

appearance, in defence or explanation of what he had said, he would be

the better able to judge--whether it would be proper for him to take

any notice--and if any, what--of the defence for which Mr. Thompson

had so frankly pledged himself. In the mean time, he would say to that

gentleman himself, that his attempts at brow-beating were lost upon

him.

* * * * *

MR. THOMPSON said he should commence with the end of his opponent's

speech, and notice what that gentleman had said in regard to the

charges brought by him against William Lloyd Garrison and Elizur

Wright. It appeared as if Mr. Breckinridge expected that, because in

his own country his character for veracity stood high, that therefore,

he was entitled, if he chose, to enter an assembly of twelve hundred

persons in Great Britain, and utter the gravest charges against

certain individuals 3,000 miles away, and when called upon as he had

been for proof, that he had nothing to do but turn round and say,

'Why, I am not bound to furnish proof; let the parties accused

demonstrate their innocence.' This was American justice with a

vengeance. This might be Kentucky law, or Lynch law, but could hardly

be called justice by any assembly of honest and impartial persons.

Such justice might suit the neighborhood of Vicksburg, but it would

not recommend itself to a Scotish audience. He (Mr. T.) would not

undertake at this time the task of justifying the men who had been

calumniated. He knew these gentlemen, and had no doubt when they heard

the charges preferred against them in this country, they would be able

and ready to clear themselves before the world. He would not say that

Mr. Breckinridge did not himself believe the allegations to be true,

but he would say that had that gentleman possessed a knowledge of the

true character of those he had spoken against--had he known them as he

(Mr. T.) knew them, he would have held them incapable of the dark

deeds alleged against them. With regard to Mr. B's remarks upon the

number of the slave population, the amount of the troops in the United

States, and the existence of slavery in the district of Columbia, he

must say that they were nothing but special pleadings; that the whole

was a complete specimen of what the lawyers termed pettifogging. He

(Mr. T.) was not prepared to hear a minister say that because only

1500 troops out of 6000 were found in the southern states, that,

therefore, the nation was not implicated--that because, if the slavery

of the district was abolished, there would be no fewer slaves in the

country--that, therefore, the seat of government should not be

cleansed from its abomination. He would remind his opponent that they

were discussing a question of principle, and that the scriptures had

declared that he who was unjust in the least, was unjust also in the

greatest. Mr. Breckinridge had still cautiously avoided naming the

parties in the United States who were responsible for the sin of

Slavery. They were told that neither New Hampshire nor Massachusetts,

nor any other of the Northern states were to blame; that the

government was not to blame, nor, had it even yet been said, that the

Southern states were to blame. Still the aggregate of the guilt

belonged somewhere; and if the parties to whom reference had been made

were to be exculpated, at whose door, he would ask, were the sin and

shame of the system to be laid. The gentleman with whom he was

debating had repeatedly told him (Mr. T.) that he did not understand

'the system.' He frankly confessed that he did not. It was a

mystery of iniquity which he could not pretend to fathom; but he

thought he might add that the Americans themselves, at least the

Colonizationists, did not seem to understand it very well neither,

for they had been operating for a very long time, without effecting

any favorable change in the system. A word with regard to the

representation of slaves in Congress. Mr. B. had spoken as if he had

intended to have it understood, that the slaves were themselves

benefited by that representation--that it was a partial representation

of the slave population by persons in their interest. How stood the

fact? The slaves were not at all represented as men, but as things.

They swelled, it was true, the number of members upon the floor of

Congress, but that extra number only helped to rivet their bonds

tightly upon them, being as they were, in the interest of the tyrant,

and themselves slaveholders, and not in the interest of the slaves.

What said John Quincy Adams in his celebrated report on the Tariff:--

'The representation of the slave population in this House

has, from the establishment of the Constitution of the United

States, amounted to rather more than one-tenth of the whole

number. In the present Congress (1833,) it is equivalent to

twenty-two votes; in the next Congress it will amount to

twenty-five. This is a combined and concentrated power,

always operating to the support and exclusive favor of the

slave-holding interest.'

Here was a mighty engine in the cause of oppression. It was a wicked

misrepresentation to say that the slaves were benefited by such an

arrangement. Instead of being a lever in their hands to aid them in

the overthrow of the system which was crushing them, it was a vast

addition of strength to the ranks of their tyrants, who went to

Congress to cry down discussion, to cry up Lynch law, and shout Hail

Columbia. Mr. Thompson then proceeded to give some account of the

Maryland Colonization scheme.

The first movement on the subject was in March, 1831, when Mr. Brawner

submitted the following resolutions to the Maryland Legislature, which

were by that assembly adopted. He begged particular attention both to

the letter and spirit of this document, exhibiting as it did, the

feelings of 'the good people of the state' towards the colored

population:--

Resolved, That the increased proportion of the free people of

color in this state, to the white population, the evils

growing out of their connection and unrestrained association

with the slaves their habits and manner of obtaining a

subsistence, and their withdrawing a large portion of

employment from the laboring class of the white population,

are subjects of momentous and grave consideration to the good

people of this state.

Resolved, That as philanthropists and lovers of freedom, we

deplore the existence of slavery amongst us, and would use

our utmost exertions to ameliorate its condition, yet we

consider the unrestrained power of manumission as fraught

with ultimate evils of a more dangerous tendency than the

circumstance of slavery alone, and that any act, having for

its object the mitigation of these joint evils, not

inconsistent with other paramount considerations, would be

worthy the attention and deliberation of the representatives

of a free, liberal-minded, and enlightened people.

Resolved, That we consider the colonization of free people of

color in Africa as the commencement of a system, by which if

judicious encouragement be afforded, these evils may be

measurably diminished, so that in process of time, the

relative proportion of the black to the white population,

will hardly be matter for serious and unpleasant

consideration.

Ordered, therefore, That a committee of five members be

appointed by the Chair, with instructions to report a bill,

based as nearly as may be, upon the principles contained in

the foregoing resolutions, and report the same to the

consideration of this house.

Such was the first movement on the subject. At the next session of

the legislature Mr. Brawner presented the report of the committee,

some of the extracts from which he (Mr. T.) would read:--

The committee to whom was referred the several memorials from

numerous citizens in this state, upon the subject, of the

colored population, Report,--

That the views presented by the memorialists are various, and

the recommendations contained in some of the memorials are

entirely repugnant to those contained in others. The

subjects, however, upon which legislative action is required,

may be embraced under a few general heads:

First, That a law be passed prohibiting the future

emancipation of the slaves, unless provision be made for

their removal from the state.

Secondly, That a sum of money adequate for the attainment of

the object, be raised and appropriated for the further

removal of those already free.

Thirdly, That a system of police be established, regulating

the future conduct and morals of this class of our

population.

And, Fourthly, There are several memorials from different

parts of our state, signed by a numerous and highly

respectable portion of our citizens, recommending the entire

abolition of slavery in the state.

On the 14th of March, 1832, the State Legislature of Maryland

appropriated for the use of the State Colonization Society the sum

of two hundred thousand dollars, payable in sums of twenty thousand

dollars per annum for ten years. Having made the grant, the

legislature next proceeded to pass acts to obtain the consent of the

colored population to quit the state and country, and emigrate to

Africa. He (Mr. T.) claimed special attention to some short extracts

from those laws. They would reveal more powerfully than any language

of his, the benevolent or rather atrociously cruel designs of the

'good people' of the state. He should quote first from 'An Act

relating to Free Negroes and Slaves,' passed within a few days of the

grant and part and parcel of the same benevolent scheme:--

Section 1. Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Maryland,

That after the passage of this act, no free negro or mulatto

shall emigrate to, or settle in this State; and no free negro

or mulatto belonging to any other state, district or

territory, shall come into this State, and therein remain for

the space of ten successive days, whether such free negro or

mulatto intends settling in this State or not, under the

penalty of fifty dollars for each and every week such persons

coming into, shall thereafter remain in this State; the one

half to the informer and the other half to the sheriff for

the use of the county. * * * and any free negro or mulatto

refusing or neglecting to pay said fine or fines, shall be

committed to the jail of the county; and shall be sold by the

sheriff at public sale, for such time as may be necessary to

cover the aforesaid penalty, first giving ten days previous

notice of such sale.

Sec. 2d. And be it enacted, That no person in this State,

shall hereafter hire, employ, or harbor any free negro or

mulatto who shall emigrate or settle in this state, after the

first day of June next, or any free negro or mulatto who

shall come into this state from any other state, district or

territory, and continue in this state for the space of ten

successive days as above, under the penalty of twenty dollars

for every day after the expiration of four days, any such

free negro or mulatto * * * shall be so employed, hired or

harbored, and all fines accruing under this act, * * * one

half thereof to be applied to the informer, and the other

half to the use of the county; and if any negro or mulatto

shall remove from this state and remain without the limits

thereof for a space longer than thirty consecutive days,

unless before leaving the state he deposits with the clerk of

the county in which he resides, a written statement of his

object in so doing, and his intention of returning again, or

unless he shall have been detained by sickness or coercion,

of which he shall bring a certificate, he shall be regarded

as a resident of another state, and be subject, if he return,

to the penalties imposed by the foregoing provisions upon

free negroes and mulattoes of another state, migrating to

this state: Provided that nothing contained in this act shall

prevent any free negro or mulatto from visiting Liberia, and

returning to the state whenever he may choose to do so.

Sec. 4. And be it enacted, That it shall not be lawful from

and after the first of June next, to import or bring into

this state by land or water, any negro, mulatto or other

slave for sale, or to reside within this state: * * * and any

person or persons so offending, shall forfeit for every such

offence, any negro, mulatto or other slave brought into this

state contrary to this act, and such negro, mulatto or other

slave, shall be entitled to freedom upon condition that he

consent to be sent to Liberia, or to leave the state

forthwith, otherwise such negro or mulatto or other slave,

shall be seized and taken and confined in jail by the sheriff

of the county where the offence is committed, which sheriff

shall receive ten dollars for every negro, mulatto or other

slave so brought into this state and forfeited as aforesaid,

and seized and taken by him. * * * Moreover, said sheriff

shall receive five dollars for such negro, mulatto or other

slave actually confined by him in jail, and the usual prison

fee as now allowed by law, and any person or persons so

offending under this act, shall be punished by indictment in

the county court of the county where the offence shall be

committed, and upon conviction thereof, the said court shall,

by its order, direct said sheriff to sell any negro, mulatto

or other slaves so seized and taken by him, under this act,

to the Colonization Society for said five dollars, and the

prison fees * * * to be taken to Liberia: and if such

Colonization Society shall not receive such negroes,

mulattoes or other slaves for said five dollars each, and the

prison fees of each, upon refusing, said sheriff shall, after

three weeks' public notice given by advertisements, sell any

such negro, mulatto or other slave to some person or persons,

with a condition that any such negro, mulatto or other slave

shall be removed and taken forthwith beyond the limits of

this state to settle and reside.

Such was the scheme which had been advocated in Boston and elsewhere

by his opponent. He now left the matter in his hands, recommending him

to exert all his eloquence and ingenuity in behalf of the honor of

Maryland, but warning him beforehand that his labors would be in vain.

* * * * *

MR. BRECKINRIDGE said, he would now proceed with what remained of the

argument on the general question. He had been asked to point out the

responsible parties in regard to slavery, and this was what he was

about to do. It was indeed much more easy to show who were the

responsible parties than to prove the innocence of those unjustly

accused--it was perhaps his duty to do both--the first he had been

attempting. It would be easy to do the other, and he trusted, that

after he had done so--if the good people of Glasgow on any future

occasion should meet to pass resolutions applauding Mr. Thompson, for

the vast sacrifices he had made, and the suffering he had endured in

the cause of emancipation, they would not again feel obliged to pass

resolutions condemning the whole American nation, as the vilest nation

that ever existed, for maintaining slavery. He would say, then, that

he considered the owners of the slaves, as in the first place,

responsible. The slave-owner had two important duties to perform in

reference to those of his fellow-beings, who were held in bondage. In

the first place, he was bound to inform himself of the whole question,

in its length and breadth, and having done so, he ought, in the

speediest manner possible, consistent with the happiness of the slaves

themselves, to set them free. This was the duty of a slave-owner, as

an individual. But, as his lot might be cast in a slaveholding state,

it was his duty, in addition to freeing his own slaves, that he should

use every lawful means to enlighten public opinion. Whatever faculties

he possessed, it was his duty to use them in the attempt to remove the

prejudices of those whose minds were not yet enlightened on this

important question. But, while it was his duty to do this, he was to

refrain from every thing which would naturally tend to exasperate the

minds of the masters. He was not to go and take hold of a man by the

throat, and say, 'You are a great thieving, man-dealing villain, and

unless you instantly give your slaves liberty, I will pitch you out of

this three story window.' That was not the mode in which a prudent man

would go to work. And he (Mr. Breckinridge) would like, above all

things, to make Mr. Thompson, and his fellow-laborers sensible of this

important truth; that in their efforts to give freedom to the slaves,

nothing could be done without the consent of the slave-owners. And

unless it was kept in view, Mr. Thompson might labor, to use an

American homely phrase, 'till the cows come home,' but he would not

move a single step nearer his object. While on this head there was

another saying which he had no doubt Mr. Thompson had frequently heard

in America, and which might be of some use for him to bear in mind, if

he revisited that horrible country; it was that one 'spoonful of

molasses would catch more flies than a hogshead of vinegar.' With

regard to the mode in which the question of slavery should be taken up

in those states where it existed, he would say that every thing had

been done--agitation, as it was called in this country--to enlighten

the public mind on the whole question, was the only thing that could

advance the cause. If there was any thing else that could be taken

advantage of for that end, he was willing to learn it, and to go home

and try to teach his countrymen who were laboring in the same cause.

In the second place, Mr. B. proceeded to say, that the parties

responsible for the existence of slavery were the states which

tolerated it. If slavery were wrong, as he was fully prepared to

assert it to be, then those states or communities which tolerate it

were justly responsible at the bar of God, at the tribunal of an

enlightened world. If slavery were wrong, those who have power were

bound to abolish it as soon as it could be done consistently with the

greatest amount of good to all concerned. Now, slavery could end in

any state only by violence, or by the consent of the masters. This

made it obviously the duty of all who had right views in such

communities, to extend and enforce them in such a way as shall appear

most likely to secure the object in view--namely, peaceful, voluntary,

and legal abolition. It demonstrates too, that whenever the majority

of such a community are ready to act in this behalf, they are bound to

act in such a manner as will constitutionally and speedily effect the

object, even though multitudes in that community should still oppose

it. But here again it is most clear that such a result can never be

brought about, till the majority of such slaveholding communities

shall not only consent to it, but require it. So that in every branch

of the matter, it constantly appears how indispensable, light, and

love, gentleness, wisdom, and truth are; and how perfectly mad it is

to expect to do any thing in America by harsh vituperation, hasty and

violent proceedings. But, say the anti-slavery people, you can abolish

slavery in the District of Columbia, and might purchase the freedom of

all the slaves throughout the whole of the states with the public

money. But it was not the price of the slaves that was the chief

difficulty in making an end of slavery. The inhabitants of the

Southern states reckoned this the least part of the case. To take away

our slaves, say they, is to take away not our property alone, but our

country also; for without them the country would not be cultivated. He

did not say that the Southern planters were right in thinking so, but

he knew that they did think so; and therefore, it was necessary to

take their opinion into account. This was only an instance of the many

difficulties by which the question was beset, and would let them see

that it was not a mere matter of pounds, shillings, and pence. In

reference to the efforts made by the American people to abolish

slavery, Mr. Breckinridge said they had done much in this cause before

Mr. Thompson was born, and possibly before his father was born. They

had labored for ages, he might almost say for half centuries. During

that time they had effected much, and they would have done more but

for the interference of the party with which Mr. Thompson was

identified. A party whose principles were based on false

metaphysics--on false morality, who came often with the fury of

demons, and yet said they were sent by God. He would say the cause of

emancipation had been much injured by the ill-designed efforts of that

party, they had thrown the cause a hundred years farther back, than it

was five years ago. In reference to the Maryland colonization scheme,

of which they had heard so much from Mr. Thompson, he would only be

able, as his time was nearly expired, to make a remark or two. That

Society had existed for about four years. In its fourth annual report

there is a statement from the managers of the Maryland State fund,

that within the preceding year, two hundred and ninety-nine

manumissions had been reported to them, which, with those previously

reported, make eleven hundred and one slaves manumitted, purely and

freely manumitted, within four years in that State: while the total

number of colored persons transported to Liberia since the Society

commenced its operations was then only one hundred and forty, as

exhibited by the same report. Nothing could show more clearly the

falsity of those statements which represent the scheme of Maryland

colonization, as being cruel, oppressive, and peculiarly opposed to

the progress of emancipation. The direct contrary is in all respects

true. With regard to the book from which Mr. Thompson had read some

extracts, purporting to be the laws of Maryland; if he were not

mistaken, that book was a violent and inflammatory pamphlet written by

some person, perhaps Mr. Thompson himself, shortly after his (Mr. B's)

visit to Boston. He would not enter upon the discussion of the merits

of that pamphlet, against which it had been alleged in America, at

the place where it originated, and he believed truly charged, that

instead of containing faithful extracts from the laws of Maryland, it

did in fact, contain only schemes of laws which had been proposed in

the Assembly of Maryland, but which had never received their sanction;

chiefly in consequence of the opposition of the friends of

colonization. In conclusion, he would say, that the Maryland scheme

was, as a whole, one of the most wise and humane projects that had

ever been devised. He had no objection on proper occasions, to go

fully into it, and he hoped to be able to show that it would do much

for the amelioration of the negro race.

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