CHAPTER XIV.

HIPPARCHUS--MINOS.

In these two dialogues, Plato sets before us two farther specimens of

that error and confusion which beset the enquirer during his search

after "reasoned truth". Sokrates forces upon the attention of a

companion two of the most familiar words of the market-place, to see

whether a clear explanation of their meaning can be obtained.

[Side-note: Hipparchus--Question--What is the definition of

Lover of Gain? He is one who thinks it right to gain from things

worth nothing. Sokrates cross-examines upon this explanation. No man

expects to gain from things which he knows to be worth nothing: in

this sense, no man is a lover of gain.]

In the dialogue called Hipparchus, the debate turns on the definition

of [Greek: to\ philokerde\s] or [Greek: o( philokerdê/s]--the love of

gain or the lover of gain. Sokrates asks his Companion to define the

word. The Companion replies--He is one who thinks it right to gain

from things worth nothing.[1] Does he do this (asks Sokrates) knowing

that the things are worth nothing? or not knowing? If the latter, he

is simply ignorant. He knows it perfectly well (is the reply). He is

cunning and wicked; and it is because he cannot resist the temptation

of gain, that he has the impudence to make profit by such things,

though well aware that they are worth nothing. _Sokr._--Suppose

a husbandman, knowing that the plant which he is tending is

worthless--and yet thinking that he ought to gain by it: does not

that correspond to your description of the lover of gain?

_Comp._--The lover of gain, Sokrates, thinks that he ought to

gain from every thing. _Sokr._--Do not answer in that reckless

manner,[2] as if you had been wronged by any one; but answer with

attention. You agree that the lover of gain knows the value of

that from which he intends to derive profit; and that the husbandman

is the person cognizant of the value of plants. _Comp._--Yes: I

agree. _Sokr._--Do not therefore attempt, you are so young, to

deceive an old man like me, by giving answers not in conformity with

your own admissions; but tell me plainly, Do you believe that the

experienced husbandman, when he knows that he is planting a tree

worth nothing, thinks that he shall gain by it? _Comp._--No,

certainly: I do not believe it.

[Footnote 1: Plato, Hipparch. 225 A. [Greek: oi(\ a)\n kerdai/nein

a)xiô=sin a)po\ tô=n mêdeno\s a)xi/ôn.]]

[Footnote 2: Plato, Hipparch. 225 C.]

Sokrates then proceeds to multiply illustrations to the same general

point. The good horseman does not expect to gain by worthless food

given to his horse: the good pilot, by worthless tackle put into his

ship: the good commander, by worthless arms delivered to his

soldiers: the good fifer, harper, bowman, by employing worthless

instruments of their respective arts, if they know them to be

worthless.

[Side-note: Gain is good. Every man loves good: therefore all

men are lovers of gain.]

None of these persons (concludes Sokrates) correspond to your

description of the lover of gain. Where then can you find a lover of

gain? On your explanation, no man is so.[3] _Comp._--I mean,

Sokrates, that the lovers of gain are those, who, through greediness,

long eagerly for things altogether petty and worthless; and thus

display a love of gain.[4] _Sokr._--Not surely knowing them to

be worthless--for this we have shown to be impossible--but ignorant

that they are worthless, and believing them to be valuable.

_Comp._--It appears so. _Sokr._--Now gain is the opposite

of loss: and loss is evil and hurt to every one: therefore gain (as

the opposite of loss) is good. _Comp._--Yes. _Sokr._--It

appears then that the lovers of good are those whom you call lovers

of gain? _Comp._--Yes: it appears so. _Sokr._--Do not you

yourself love good--all good things? _Comp._--Certainly.

_Sokr._--And I too, and every one else. All men love good

things, and hate evil. Now we agreed that gain was a good: so that by

this reasoning, it appears that all men are lovers of gain while by

the former reasoning, we made out that none were so.[5] Which of the

two shall we adopt, to avoid error. _Comp._--We shall commit

no error, Sokrates, if we rightly conceive the lover of gain. He is

one who busies himself upon, and seeks to gain from, things from

which good men do not venture to gain.

[Footnote 3: Plat. Hipparch. 226 D.]

[Footnote 4: Plat. Hipparch. 226 D. [Greek: A)ll' e)gô\, ô)=

Sô/krates, bou/lomai le/gein tou/tous philokerdei=s ei)=nai, oi(\

e(ka/stote u(po\ a)plêsti/as kai\ panu\ smikra\ kai\ o)li/gou a)/xia

kai\ ou)deno\s gli/chontai u(perphuô=s kai\ philokerdou=sin.]]

[Footnote 5: Plat. Hipparch. 227 C.]

[Side-note: Apparent contradiction. Sokrates accuses the

companion of trying to deceive him. Accusation is retorted upon

Sokrates.]

_Sokr._--But, my friend, we agreed just now, that gain was a

good, and that all men always love good. It follows therefore, that

good men as well as others love all gains, if gains are good things.

_Comp._--Not, certainly, those gains by which they will

afterwards be hurt. _Sokr._--Be hurt: you mean, by which they

will become losers. _Comp._--I mean that and nothing else.

_Sokr._--Do they become losers by gain, or by loss?

_Comp._--By both: by loss, and by evil gain. _Sokr._--Does

it appear to you that any useful and good thing is evil?

_Comp._--No. _Sokr._--Well! we agreed just now that gain

was the opposite of loss, which was evil; and that, being the

opposite of evil, gain was good. _Comp._--That was what we

agreed. _Sokr._--You see how it is: you are trying to deceive

me: you purposely contradict what we just now agreed upon.

_Comp._--Not at all, by Zeus: on the contrary, it is you,

Sokrates, who deceive me, wriggling up and down in your talk, I

cannot tell how.[6] _Sokr._--Be careful what you say: I should

be very culpable, if I disobeyed a good and wise monitor.

_Comp._--Whom do you mean: and what do you mean?

_Sokr._--Hipparchus, son of Peisistratus.

[Footnote 6: Plat. Hipparch. 228 A. _Sokr._--[Greek: O(ra=|s

ou)=n? e)picheirei=s me e)xapata=|n, e)pi/têdes e)nanti/a le/gôn

oi(=s a)/rti ô(mologê/samen.] _Comp._ [Greek: Ou) ma\ Di/', ô)=

Sô/krates; a)lla\ tou)nanti/on su\ e)me\ e)xapata=|s, kai\ ou)k

oi)=da o(pê=| e)n toi=s lo/gois a)/nô kai\ ka/tô stre/pheis.]]

[Side-note: Precept inscribed formerly by Hipparchus the

Peisistratid--"Never deceive a friend". Eulogy of Hipparchus by

Sokrates.]

Sokrates then describes at some length the excellent character of

Hipparchus: his beneficent rule, his wisdom, his anxiety for the

moral improvement of the Athenians: the causes, different from what

was commonly believed, which led to his death; and the wholesome

precepts which he during his life had caused to be inscribed on

various busts of Hermes throughout Attica. One of these busts or

Hermæ bore the words--Do not deceive a friend.[7]

[Footnote 7: Plat. Hipparch. 228 B-229 D.

The picture here given of Hipparchus deserves notice. We are informed

that he was older than his brother Hippias, which was the general

belief at Athens, as Thucydides (i. 20, vi. 58) affirms, though

himself contradicting it, and affirming that Hippias was the elder

brother. Plato however agrees with Thucydides in this point, that the

three years after the assassination of Hipparchus, during which

Hippias ruled alone, were years of oppression and tyranny; and that

the hateful recollection of the Peisistratidæ, which always survived

in the minds of the Athenians, was derived from these three last

years.

The picture which Plato here gives of Hipparchus is such as we might

expect from a philosopher. He dwells upon the pains which Hipparchus

took to have the recitation of the Homeric poems made frequent and

complete: also upon his intimacy with the poets Anakreon and

Simonides. The colouring which Plato gives to the intimacy between

Aristogeiton and Harmodius is also peculiar. The [Greek: e)rastê\s]

is represented by Plato as eager for the education and improvement of

the [Greek: e)rô/menos]; and the jealousy felt towards Hipparchus is

described as arising from the distinguished knowledge and abilities

of Hipparchus, which rendered him so much superior and more effective

as an educator.]

The Companion resumes: Apparently, Sokrates, either you do not

account me your friend, or you do not obey Hipparchus: for you are

certainly deceiving me in some unaccountable way in your talk. You

cannot persuade me to the contrary.

[Side-note: Sokrates allows the companion to retract some of

his answers. The companion affirms that some gain is good, other gain

is evil.]

_Sokr._--Well then! in order that you may not think yourself

deceived, you may take back any move that you choose, as if we were

playing at draughts. Which of your admissions do you wish to

retract--That all men desire good things? That loss (to be a loser)

is evil? That gain is the opposite of loss: that to gain is the

opposite of to lose? That to gain, as being the opposite of evil

is a good thing? _Comp._--No. I do not retract any one of these.

_Sokr._--You think then, it appears, that some gain is good, other

gain evil? _Comp._--Yes, that is what I do think.[8] _Sokr._--Well, I

give you back that move: let it stand as you say. Some gain is good:

other gain is bad. But surely the good gain is no more _gain_,

than the bad gain: both are _gain_, alike and equally.

_Comp._--How do you mean?

[Footnote 8: Plat. Hipparch. 229 E, 230 A.]

[Side-note: Questions by Sokrates--bad gain is _gain_, as

much as good gain. What is the common property, in virtue of which

both are called Gain? Every acquisition, made with no outlay, or with

a smaller outlay, is gain. Objections--the acquisition may be

evil--embarrassment confessed.]

Sokrates then illustrates his question by two or three analogies. Bad

food is just as much _food_, as good food: bad drink, as much

_drink_ as good drink: a good man is no more _man_ than a

bad man.[9]

[Footnote 9: Plat. Hipparch. 230 C.]

_Sokr._--In like manner, bad gain, and good gain, are (both of

them) _gain_ alike--neither of them more or less than the other.

Such being the case, what is that common quality possessed by both,

which induces you to call them by the same name _Gain_?[10]

Would you call _Gain_ any acquisition which one makes either

with a smaller outlay or with no outlay at all?[11]

_Comp._--Yes. I should call that gain. _Sokr._--For example, if after

being at a banquet, not only without any outlay, but receiving an

excellent dinner, you acquire an illness? _Comp._--Not at all:

that is no gain. _Sokr._--But if from the banquet you acquire

health, would that be gain or loss? _Comp._--It would be gain.

_Sokr._--Not every acquisition therefore is gain, but only such

acquisitions as are good and not evil: if the acquisition be evil, it

is loss. _Comp._--Exactly so. _Sokr._--Well, now, you see,

you are come round again to the very same point: Gain is good. Loss

is evil. _Comp._--I am puzzled what to say.[12]

_Sokr._--You have good reason to be puzzled.

[Footnote 10: Plat. Hipparch. 230 E. [Greek: dia\ ti/ pote

a)mpho/tera au)ta\ ke/rdos kalei=s? ti/ tau)to\n e)n a)mphote/rois

o(rô=n?]]

[Footnote 11: Plat. Hipparch. 231 A.]

[Footnote 12: Plat. Hipparch. 231 C. _Sokr._ [Greek: O(ra=|s

ou)=n, ô(s pa/lin au)= peritre/cheis ei)s to\ au)to\--to\ me\n

ke/rdos a)gatho\n phai/netai, ê( de\ zêmi/a kako/n?] _Comp._

[Greek: A)porô= e)/gôge o(\, ti ei)/pô.] _Sokr._ [Greek: Ou)k

a)di/kôs ge su\ a)porô=n.]]

[Side-note: It is essential to gain, that the acquisition made

shall be greater not merely in quantity, but also in value, than the

outlay. The valuable is the profitable--the profitable is the good.

Conclusion comes back. That Gain is Good.]

But tell me: you say that if a man lays out little and acquires much,

that is gain? _Comp._--Yes: but not if it be evil: it is gain,

if it be good, like gold or silver. _Sokr._--I will ask you

about gold and silver. Suppose a man by laying out one pound of gold

acquires two pounds of silver, is it gain or loss? _Comp._--It

is loss, decidedly, Sokrates: gold is twelve times the value of

silver. _Sokr._--Nevertheless he has acquired more: double is

more than half. _Comp._--Not in value: double silver is not more

than half gold. _Sokr._--It appears then that we must include

value as essential to gain, not merely quantity. The valuable is

gain: the valueless is no gain. The valuable is that which is

valuable to possess: is that the profitable, or the unprofitable?

_Comp._--It is the profitable. _Sokr._--But the profitable

is good? _Comp._--Yes: it is. _Sokr._--Why then, here, the

same conclusion comes back to us as agreed, for the third or fourth

time. The gainful is good. _Comp._--It appears so.[13]

[Footnote 13: Plato, Hipparch. 231 D-E, 232 A.]

[Side-note: Recapitulation. The debate has shown that all gain

is good, and that there is no evil gain--all men are lovers of gain--no

man ought to be reproached for being so. The companion is compelled

to admit this, though he declares that he is not persuaded.]

_Sokr._--Let me remind you of what has passed. You contended

that good men did not wish to acquire all sorts of gain, but

only such as were good, and not such as were evil. But now, the

debate has compelled us to acknowledge that all gains are good,

whether small or great. _Comp._--As for me, Sokrates, the debate

has compelled me rather than persuaded me.[14]

_Sokr._--Presently, perhaps, it may even persuade you. But now,

whether you have been persuaded or not, you at least concur with

me in affirming that all gains, whether small or great, are good.

That all good men wish for all good things. _Comp._--I do concur.

_Sokr._--But you yourself stated that evil men love all gains,

small and great? _Comp._--I said so. _Sokr._--According to your

doctrine then, all men are lovers of gain, the good men as well as

the evil? _Comp._--Apparently so. _Sokr._--It is therefore

wrong to reproach any man as a lover of gain: for the person who

reproaches is himself a lover of gain, just as much.

[Footnote 14: Plat. Hipparch. 232 A-B. _Sokr._ [Greek: Ou)kou=n

nu=n pa/nta ta\ ke/rdê o( lo/gos ê(ma=s ê)na/gkake kai\ smikra\ kai\

mega/la o(mologei=n a)gatha\ ei)=nai?] _Comp._ [Greek:

Ê)na/gkake ga/r, ô)= Sô/krates, ma=llon e)me/ ge ê)\ pe/peiken.]

_Sokr._ [Greek: A)ll' i)/sôs meta\ tou=to kai\ pei/seien

a)\n.]]

[Side-note: Minos. Question put by Sokrates to the companion.

What is Law, or The Law? All law is the same, _quatenus_ law:

what is the common constituent attribute?]

The Minos, like the Hipparchus, is a dialogue carried on between

Sokrates and a companion not named. It relates to Law, or The Law--

_Sokr._--What is Law (asks Sokrates)? _Comp._--Respecting

what sort of Law do you enquire (replies the Companion)?

_Sokr._--What! is there any difference between one law and

another law, as to that identical circumstance, of being Law? Gold

does not differ from gold, so far as the being gold is concerned--nor

stone from stone, so far as being stone is concerned. In like manner,

one law does not differ from another, all are the same, in so far as

each is Law alike:--not, one of them more, and another less. It is

about this as a whole that I ask you--What is Law?

[Side-note: Answer--Law is, 1. The consecrated and binding

customs. 2. The decree of the city. 3. Social or civic opinion.]

_Comp._--What should Law be, Sokrates, other than the various

assemblage of consecrated and binding customs and beliefs?[15]

_Sokr._--Do you think, then, that discourse is, the things

spoken: that sight is, the things seen? that hearing is, the things

heard? Or are they not distinct, in each of the three cases--and is

not Law also one thing, the various customs and beliefs another?

_Comp._--Yes! I now think that they are distinct.[16]

_Sokr._--Law is that whereby these binding customs become

binding. What is it? _Comp._--Law can be nothing else than the

public resolutions and decrees promulgated among us. Law is the

decree of the city.[17] _Sokr._--You mean, that Law is social

opinion. _Comp._--Yes I do.

[Footnote 15: Plato, Minos, 313 B. [Greek: Ti/ ou)=n a)/llo no/mos

ei)/ê a)\n a)ll' ê)\ ta\ nomizo/mena?]]

[Footnote 16: Plato, Minos, 313 B-C.

I pass over here an analogy started by Sokrates in his next question;

as [Greek: o)/psis] to [Greek: ta\ o(rô/mena], so [Greek: no/mos] to

[Greek: ta\ nomizo/mena], &c.]

[Footnote 17: Plato, Minos, 814 A. [Greek: e)peidê\ no/mô| ta\

nomizo/mena nomi/zetai, ti/ni o)/nti tô=| no/mô| nomi/zetai?]]

[Side-note: Cross-examination by Sokrates--just and

lawfully-behaving men are so through law; unjust and lawless men

are so through the absence of law. Law is highly honourable and useful:

lawlessness is ruinous. Accordingly, bad decrees of the city--or bad

social opinion--cannot be law.]

_Sokr._--Perhaps you are right: but let us examine. You call

some persons wise:--they are wise through wisdom. You call some

just:--they are just through justice. In like manner, the

lawfully-behaving men are so through law: the lawless men are so

through lawlessness. Now the lawfully-behaving men are just: the

lawless men are unjust. _Comp._--It is so. _Sokr._--Justice and Law,

are highly honourable: injustice and lawlessness, highly

dishonourable: the former preserves cities, the latter ruins them.

_Comp._--Yes--it does. _Sokr._--Well, then! we must

consider law as something honourable; and seek after it, under the

assumption that it is a good thing. You defined law to be the decree

of the city: Are not some decrees good, others evil?

_Comp._--Unquestionably. _Sokr._--But we have already said that law

is not evil. _Comp._--I admit it. _Sokr._--It is incorrect

therefore to answer, as you did broadly, that law is the decree of

the city. An evil decree cannot be law. _Comp._--I see that it

is incorrect.[18]

[Footnote 18: Plato, Minos, 314 B-C-D.]

[Side-note: Suggestion by Sokrates--Law is the _good_

opinion of the city--but good opinion is true opinion, or the finding

out of reality. Law therefore wishes (tends) to be the finding out of

reality, though it does not always succeed in doing so.]

_Sokr._--Still--I think, myself, that law is opinion of some

sort; and since it is not evil opinion, it must be good opinion. Now

good opinion is true opinion: and true opinion is, the finding out of

reality. _Comp._--I admit it. _Sokr._--Law therefore wishes

or tends to be, the finding out of reality.[19] _Comp._--But,

Sokrates, if law is the finding out of reality--if we have

therein already found out realities--how comes it that all

communities of men do not use the same laws respecting the same

matters? _Sokr._--The law does not the less wish or tend to find

out realities; but it is unable to do so. That is, if the fact be

true as you state--that we change our laws, and do not all of us use

the same. _Comp._--Surely, the fact as a fact is obvious

enough.[20]

[Footnote 19: Plato, Minos, 315 A. [Greek: Ou)kou=n ê( a)lêthê\s

do/xa tou= o)/ntos e)stin e)xeu/resis? . . . o( no/mos a)/ra bou/letai

tou= o)/ntos ei)=nai e)xeu/resis?]]

[Footnote 20: Plato, Minos, 315 A-B.]

[Side-note: Objection taken by the Companion--That there is

great discordance of laws in different places--he specifies several

cases of such discordance at some length. Sokrates reproves his

prolixity, and requests him to confine himself to question or

answer.]

(The Companion here enumerates some remarkable local rites,

venerable in one place, abhorrent in another, such as the human

sacrifices at Carthage, &c., thus lengthening his answer much

beyond what it had been before. Sokrates then continues):

_Sokr._--Perhaps you are right, and these matters have escaped

me. But if you and I go on making long speeches each for ourselves,

we shall never come to an agreement. If we are to carry on our

research together, we must do so by question and answer. Question me,

if you prefer:--if not, answer me. _Comp._--I am quite ready,

Sokrates, to answer whatever you ask.

[Side-note: Farther questions by Sokrates--Things heavy and

light, just and unjust, honourable and dishonourable, &c., are

so, and are accounted so everywhere. Real things are always accounted

real. Whoever fails in attaining the real, fails in attaining the

lawful.]

_Sokr._--Well, then! do you think that just things are just and

unjust things are unjust? _Comp._--I think they are.

_Sokr._--Do not all men in all communities, among the Persians

as well as here, now as well as formerly, think so too?

_Comp._--Unquestionably they do. _Sokr._--Are not things which weigh

more, accounted heavier; and things which weigh less, accounted

lighter, here, at Carthage, and everywhere else?[21]

_Comp._--Certainly. _Sokr._--It seems, then, that honourable things

are accounted honourable everywhere, and dishonourable things

dishonourable? not the reverse. _Comp._--Yes, it is so.

_Sokr._--Then, speaking universally, existent things or

realities (not non-existents) are accounted existent and real, among

us as well as among all other men? _Comp._--I think they are.

_Sokr._--Whoever therefore fails in attaining the real fails in

attaining the lawful.[22] _Comp._--As you now put it, Sokrates,

it would seem that the same things are accounted lawful both by us at

all times, and by all the rest of mankind besides. But when I reflect

that we are perpetually changing our laws, I cannot persuade myself

of what you affirm.

[Footnote 21: Plato, Minos, 316 A. [Greek: Po/teron de\ ta\ plei=on

e)/lkonta baru/tera nomi/zetai e)ntha/de, ta\ de\ e)/latton,

koupho/tera, ê)\ tou)nanti/on?]

The verb [Greek: nomi/zetai] deserves attention here, being the same

word as has been employed in regard to law, and derived from [Greek:

no/mos].]

[Footnote 22: Plato, Minos, 316 B. [Greek: ou)kou=n, ô(s kata\

pa/ntôn ei)pei=n, ta\ o)/nta nomi/zetai ei)=nai, ou) ta\ mê\ o)/nta,

kai\ par' ê(mi=n kai\ para\ toi=s a)/llois a(/pasin.]

_Comp._ [Greek: E)/moige dokei=.] _Sokr._ [Greek: O(\s a)\n

a)/ra tou= o)/ntos a(marta/nê|, tou= nomi/mou a(marta/nei.]]

[Side-note: There are laws of health and of cure, composed by

the few physicians wise upon those subjects, and unanimously declared

by them. So also there are laws of farming, gardening, cookery,

declared by the few wise in those respective pursuits. In like

manner, the laws of a city are the judgments declared by the few wise

men who know how to rule.]

_Sokr._--Perhaps you do not reflect that pieces on the draught-board,

when their position is changed, still remain the same. You

know medical treatises: you know that physicians are the really

knowing about matters of health: and that they agree with each other

in writing about them. _Comp._--Yes--I know that. _Sokr._--The

case is the same whether they be Greeks or not Greeks: Those who

know, must of necessity hold the same opinion with each other, on

matters which they know: always and everywhere. _Comp._--Yes--always

and everywhere. _Sokr._--Physicians write respecting

matters of health what they account to be true, and these writings of

theirs are the medical laws? _Comp._--Certainly they are.

_Sokr._--The like is true respecting the laws of farming--the

laws of gardening--the laws of cookery. All these are the writings of

persons, knowing in each of the respective pursuits? _Comp._--Yes.[23]

_Sokr._--In like manner, what are the laws respecting

the government of a city? Are they not the writings of those who know

how to govern--kings, statesmen, and men of superior excellence?

_Comp._--Truly so. _Sokr._--Knowing men like these will not

write differently from each other about the same things, nor change

what they have once written. If, then, we see some doing this,

are we to declare them knowing or ignorant?

_Comp._--Ignorant--undoubtedly.

[Footnote 23: Plato, Minos, 316 D-E.]

[Side-note: That which is right is the regal law, the only

true and real law--that which is not right, is not law, but only

seems to be law in the eyes of the ignorant.]

_Sokr._--Whatever is right, therefore, we may pronounce to be

lawful; in medicine, gardening, or cookery: whatever is not right,

not to be lawful but lawless. And the like in treatises respecting

just and unjust, prescribing how the city is to be administered: That

which is right, is the regal law--that which is not right, is not so,

but only seems to be law in the eyes of the ignorant--being in truth

lawless. _Comp._--Yes. _Sokr._--We were correct therefore

in declaring Law to be the finding out of reality. _Comp._--It

appears so.[24] _Sokr._--It is the skilful husbandman who gives

right laws on the sowing of land: the skilful musician on the

touching of instruments: the skilful trainer, respecting exercise of

the body: the skilful king or governor, respecting the minds of the

citizens. _Comp._--Yes--it is.[25]

[Footnote 24: Plato, Minos, 317 C. [Greek: to\ me\n o)rtho\n no/mos

e)sti\ basiliko/s; to\ de\ mê\ o)rtho/n ou)/, o(\ dokei= no/mos

ei)=nai toi=s ei)do/sin; e)/sti ga\r a)/nomon.]]

[Footnote 25: Plato, Minos, 318 A.]

[Side-note: Minos, King of Krete--his laws were divine and

excellent, and have remained unchanged from time immemorial.]

_Sokr._--Can you tell me which of the ancient kings has the

glory of having been a good lawgiver, so that his laws still remain

in force as divine institutions? _Comp._--I cannot tell.

_Sokr._--But can you not say which among the Greeks have the

most ancient laws? _Comp._--Perhaps you mean the Lacedæmonians

and Lykurgus? _Sokr._--Why, the Lacedæmonian laws are hardly

more than three hundred years old: besides, whence is it that the

best of them come? _Comp._--From Krete, they say. _Sokr._--Then

it is the Kretans who have the most ancient laws in Greece?

_Comp._--Yes. _Sokr._--Do you know those good kings of

Krete, from whom these laws are derived--Minos and Rhadamanthus, sons

of Zeus and Europa? _Comp._--Rhadamanthus certainly is said to

have been a just man, Sokrates; but Minos quite the reverse--savage,

ill-tempered, unjust. _Sokr._--What you affirm, my friend, is a

fiction of the Attic tragedians. It is not stated either by Homer or

Hesiod, who are far more worthy of credit than all the tragedians put

together. _Comp._--What is it that Homer and Hesiod say

about Minos?[26]

[Footnote 26: Plato, Minos, 318 E.]

[Side-note: Question about the character of Minos--Homer and

Hesiod declare him to have been admirable, the Attic tragedians

defame him as a tyrant, because he was an enemy of Athens.]

Sokrates replies by citing, and commenting upon, the statements of

Homer and Hesiod respecting Minos, as the cherished son, companion,

and pupil, of Zeus; who bestowed upon him an admirable training,

teaching him wisdom and justice, and thus rendering him consummate as

a lawgiver and ruler of men. It was through these laws, divine as

emanating from the teaching of Zeus, that Krete (and Sparta as the

imitator of Krete) had been for so long a period happy and virtuous.

As ruler of Krete, Minos had made war upon Athens, and compelled the

Athenians to pay tribute. Hence he had become odious to the

Athenians, and especially odious to the tragic poets who were the

great teachers and charmers of the crowd. These poets, whom every one

ought to be cautious of offending, had calumniated Minos as the old

enemy of Athens.[27]

[Footnote 27: Plato, Minos, 319-320.]

[Side-note: That Minos was really admirable--and that he has

found out truth and reality respecting the administration of the

city--we may be sure from the fact that his laws have remained so

long unaltered.]

But that these tales are mere calumny (continues Sokrates), and that

Minos was truly a good lawgiver, and a good shepherd ([Greek: nomeu\s

a)gatho/s]) of his people--we have proof through the fact, that his

laws still remain unchanged: which shows that he has really found out

truth and reality respecting the administration of a city.[28]

_Comp._--Your view seems plausible, Sokrates. _Sokr._--If I

am right, then, you think that the Kretans have more ancient laws

than any other Greeks? and that Minos and Rhadamanthus are the best

of all ancient lawgivers, rulers, and shepherds of mankind?

_Comp._--I think they are.

[Footnote 28: Plato, Minos, 321 B. [Greek: tou=to me/giston sêmei=on,

o(/ti a)ki/nêtoi au)tou= oi( no/moi ei)si/n, a)/te tou= o)/ntos peri\

po/leôs oi)kê/seôs e)xeuro/ntos eu)= tê\n a)lê/theian.]]

[Side-note: The question is made more determinate--What is it

that the good lawgiver prescribes and measures out for the health of

the mind, as the physician measures out food and exercise for the

body? Sokrates cannot tell. Close.]

_Sokr._--Now take the case of the good lawgiver and good

shepherd for the body--If we were asked, what it is that he

prescribes for the body, so as to render it better? we should answer,

at once, briefly, and well, by saying--food and labour: the former to

sustain the body, the latter to exercise and consolidate it.

_Comp._--Quite correct. _Sokr._--And if after that we

were asked, What are those things which the good lawgiver prescribes

for the mind to make it better, what should we say, so as to avoid

discrediting ourselves? _Comp._--I really cannot tell.

_Sokr._--But surely it is discreditable enough both for your

mind and mine--to confess, that we do not know upon what it is that

good and evil for our minds depends, while we can define upon what it

is that the good or evil of our bodies depends?[29]

[Footnote 29: Plato, Minos, 321 C-B.]

* * * * *

[Side-note: The Hipparchus and Minos are analogous to each

other, and both of them inferior works of Plato, perhaps unfinished.]

I have put together the two dialogues Hipparchus and Minos, partly

because of the analogy which really exists between them, partly

because that analogy is much insisted on by Boeckh, Schleiermacher,

Stallbaum, and other recent critics; who not only strike them both

out of the list of Platonic works, but speak of them with contempt as

compositions. On the first point, I dissent from them altogether: on

the second, I agree with them thus far--that I consider the two

dialogues inferior works of Plato:--much inferior to his greatest and

best compositions,--certainly displaying both less genius and less

careful elaboration--probably among his early performances--perhaps

even unfinished projects, destined for a farther elaboration, which

they never received, and not published until after his decease. Yet

in Hipparchus as well as in Minos, the subjects debated are important

as regards ethical theory. Several questions are raised and partially

canvassed: no conclusion is finally attained. These characteristics

they have in common with several of the best Platonic dialogues.

[Side-note: Hipparchus--Double meaning of [Greek:

philokerdê\s] and [Greek: ke/rdos].]

In Hipparchus, the question put by Sokrates is, about the definition

of [Greek: o( philokerdê\s] (the lover of gain), and of [Greek:

ke/rdos] itself--gain. The first of these two words (like many in

Greek as well as in English) is used in two senses. In its plain,

etymological sense, it means an attribute belonging to all men: all

men love gain, hate loss. But since this is predicable of all,

there is seldom any necessity for predicating it of any one man or

knot of men in particular. Accordingly, when you employ the epithet

as a predicate of A or B, what you generally mean is, to assert

something more than its strict etymological meaning: to declare that

he has the attribute in unusual measure; or that he has shown

himself, on various occasions, wanting in other attributes, which on

those occasions ought, in your judgment, to have countervailed it.

The epithet thus comes to connote a sentiment of blame or reproach,

in the mind of the speaker.[30]

[Footnote 30: Aristotle adverts to this class of ethical epithets,

connoting both an attribute in the person designated and an

unfavourable sentiment in the speaker (Ethic. Nikom. ii. 6, p. 1107,

a. 9). [Greek: Ou) pa=sa d' e)pide/chetai pra=xis, ou)de\ pa=n

pa/thos, tê\n meso/têta; e)/nia ga\r eu)thu\s ô)no/mastai

suneilêmme/na meta\ tê=s phaulo/têtos, oi)=on], &c.]

[Side-note: State or mind of the agent, as to knowledge,

frequent inquiry in Plato. No tenable definition found.]

The Companion or Collocutor, being called upon by Sokrates to explain

[Greek: to\ philokerde\s], defines it in this last sense, as

conveying or connoting a reproach. He gives three different

explanations of it (always in this sense), each of which Sokrates

shows to be untenable. A variety of parallel cases are compared, and

the question is put (so constantly recurring in Plato's writings),

what is the state of the agent's mind as to knowledge? The

cross-examination makes out, that if the agent be supposed to

know,--then there is no man corresponding to the definition of a

[Greek: philokerdê/s]: if the agent be supposed not to know--then,

on the contrary, every man will come under the definition. The

Companion is persuaded that there is such a thing as "love of

gain" in the blamable sense. Yet he cannot find any tenable

definition, to discriminate it from "love of gain" in the

ordinary or innocent sense.

[Side-note: Admitting that there is bad gain, as well as good

gain, what is the meaning of the word _gain_? None is found.]

The same question comes back in another form, after Sokrates has

given the liberty of retractation. The Collocutor maintains that

there is bad _gain_, as well as good _gain_. But what is

that common, generic, quality, designated well as good by the word

_gain_, apart from these two distinctive epithets? He cannot

find it out or describe it. He gives two definitions, each of which

is torn up by Sokrates. To deserve the name of _gain_, that

which a man acquires must be good; and it must surpass, in value as

well as in quantity, the loss or outlay which he incurs in order

to acquire it. But when thus understood, all gains are good. There is

no meaning in the distinction between good and bad gains: all men are

lovers of gain.

[Side-note: Purpose of Plato in the dialogue--to lay bare the

confusion, and to force the mind of the respondent into efforts for

clearing it up.]

With this confusion, the dialogue closes. The Sokratic notion of

_good_, as what every one loves--_evil_ as what every one

hates--also of evil-doing, as performed by every evil-doer only

through ignorance or mistake is brought out and applied to test the

ethical phraseology of a common-place respondent. But it only serves

to lay bare a state of confusion and perplexity, without clearing up

any thing. Herein, so far as I can see, lies Plato's purpose in the

dialogue. The respondent is made aware of the confusion, which he did

not know before; and this, in Plato's view, is a progress. The

respondent cannot avoid giving contradictory answers, under an acute

cross-examination: but he does not adopt any new belief. He says to

Sokrates at the close--"The debate has constrained rather than

persuaded me".[31] This is a simple but instructive declaration of

the force put by Sokrates upon his collocutors; and of the

reactionary effort likely to be provoked in their minds, with a view

to extricate themselves from a painful sense of contradiction. If

such effort be provoked, Plato's purpose is attained.

[Footnote 31: Plato, Hipparch. 232 B. [Greek: ê)na/gkake ga\r (o(

lo/gos) ma=llon e)me/ ge ê)\ pe/peiken.]]

One peculiarity there is, analogous to what we have already seen in

the Hippias Major. It is not merely the Collocutor who charges

Sokrates, but also Sokrates who accuses the Collocutor--each charging

the other with attempts to deceive a friend.[32] This seems intended

by Plato to create an occasion for introducing what he had to say

about Hipparchus--_apropos_ of the motto on the Hipparchean

Hermes--[Greek: mê\ phi/lon e)xapa/ta].

[Footnote 32: Plato, Hipparch. 225 E, 228 A.]

[Side-note: Historical narrative and comments given in the

dialogue respecting Hipparchus--afford no ground for declaring the

dialogue to be spurious.]

The modern critics, who proclaim the Hipparchus not to be the work of

Plato, allege as one of the proofs of spuriousness, the occurrence of

this long narrative and comment upon the historical Hipparchus and

his behaviour; which narrative (the critics maintain) Plato would

never have introduced, seeing that it contributes nothing to the

settlement of the question debated. But to this we may reply, first,

That there are other dialogues[33] (not to mention the Minos) in

which Plato introduces recitals of considerable length, historical or

quasi-historical recitals; bearing remotely, or hardly bearing at

all, upon the precise question under discussion; next,--That even if

no such analogies could be cited, and if the case stood single, no

modern critic could fairly pretend to be so thoroughly acquainted

with Plato's views and the surrounding circumstances, as to put a

limit on the means which Plato might choose to take, for rendering

his dialogues acceptable and interesting. Plato's political views

made him disinclined to popular government generally, and to the

democracy of Athens in particular. Conformably with such sentiment,

he is disposed to surround the rule of the Peisistratidæ with an

ethical and philosophical colouring: to depict Hipparchus as a wise

man busied in instructing and elevating the citizens; and to

discredit the renown of Harmodius and Aristogeiton, by affirming them

to have been envious of Hipparchus, as a philosopher who surpassed

themselves by his own mental worth. All this lay perfectly in the

vein of Plato's sentiment; and we may say the same about the

narrative in the Minos, respecting the divine parentage and teaching

of Minos, giving rise to his superhuman efficacy as a lawgiver and

ruler. It is surely very conceivable, that Plato, as a composer of

ethical dialogues or dramas, might think that such recitals lent a

charm or interest to some of them. Moreover, something like variety,

or distinctive features as between one dialogue and another, was a

point of no inconsiderable moment. I am of opinion that Plato did so

conceive these narratives. But at any rate, what I here contend is,

that no modern critics have a right to assume as certain that he did

not.

[Footnote 33: See Alkibiad. ii. pp. 142-149-150; Alkibiad. i. pp.

121-122: Protagoras, 342-344; Politikus, 268 D., [Greek: schedo\n

paidia\n e)gkerasame/nous] and the two or three pages which follow.

F. A. Wolf, and various critics after him, contend that the

genuineness of the Hipparchus was doubted in antiquity, on the

authority of Ælian, V. H. viii. 2. But I maintain that this is not

the meaning of the passage, unless upon the supposition that the word

[Greek: mathêtê\s] is struck out of the text conjecturally. The

passage may be perfectly well construed, leaving [Greek: mathêtê\s]

in the text: we must undoubtedly suppose the author to have made an

assertion historically erroneous: but this is nowise impossible in

the case of Ælian. If you construe the passage as it stands, without

such conjectural alteration, it does not justify Wolf's inference.]

[Side-note: Minos. Question--What is the characteristic

property connoted by the word [Greek: No/mos] or law?]

I now come to the Minos. The subject of this dialogue is, the

explanation or definition of Law. Sokrates says to his Companion or

Collocutor,--Tell me what is the generic constituent of Law: All Laws

are alike _quatenus_ Law. Take no note of the difference between

one law and another, but explain to me what characteristic property

it is, which is common to all Law, and is implied in or connoted by

the name Law.

This question is logically the same as that which Sokrates asks in

the Hipparchus with reference to [Greek: ke/rdos] or gain.

[Side-note: This question was discussed by the historical

Sokrates, Memorabilia of Xenophon.]

That the definition of [Greek: No/mos] or Law was discussed by

Sokrates, we know, not only from the general description of his

debates given in Xenophon, but also from the interesting description

(in that author) of the conversation between the youthful Alkibiades

and Perikles.[34] The interrogations employed by Alkibiades on that

occasion are Sokratic, and must have been derived, directly or

indirectly, from Sokrates. They are partially analogous to the

questions of Sokrates in the dialogue Minos, and they end by driving

Perikles into a confusion, left unexplained, between Law and

Lawlessness.

[Footnote 34: Xen. Mem. i. 1, 16; i. 2, 42-46.]

[Side-note: Definitions of law--suggested and refuted. Law

includes, as a portion of its meaning, justice, goodness, usefulness,

&c. Bad decrees are not laws.]

Definitions of [Greek: No/mos] are here given by the Companion, who

undergoes a cross-examination upon them. First, he says, that [Greek:

No/mos = ta\ nomizo/mena]. But this is rejected by Sokrates, who

intimates that Law is not the aggregate of laws enacted or of customs

held binding: but that which lies behind these laws and customs,

imparting to them their binding force.[35] We are to enquire what

this is. The Companion declares that it is the public decree of the

city: political or social opinion. But this again Sokrates contests:

putting questions to show that Law includes, as a portion of its

meaning, justice, goodness, beauty, and preservation of the city with

its possessions; while lawlessness includes injustice, evil,

ugliness, and destruction. There can be no such thing as bad or

wicked law.[36] But among decrees of the city, some are bad, some

are good. Therefore to define Law as a decree of the city, thus

generally, is incorrect. It is only the good decree, not the bad

decree, which is Law. Now the good decree or opinion, is the true

opinion: that is, it is the finding out of reality. Law therefore

wishes or aims to be the finding out of reality: and if there are

differences between different nations, this is because the power to

find out does not always accompany the wish to find out.

[Footnote 35: Plato, Minos, 314 A. [Greek: e)peidê\ no/mô| ta\

nomizo/mena nomi/zetai, ti/ni o)/nti tô=| no/mô| nomi/zetai?]]

[Footnote 36: Plato, Minos, 314 E. [Greek: kai\ mê\n no/mos ge ou)k

ê)=n ponêro/s.]]

[Side-note: Sokrates affirms that law is everywhere the same--it

is the declared judgment and command of the Wise man upon the

subject to which it refers--it is truth and reality, found out and

certified by him.]

As to the assertion--that Law is one thing here, another thing there,

one thing at one time, another thing at another--Sokrates contests

it. Just things are just (he says) everywhere and at all times;

unjust things are unjust also. Heavy things are heavy, light things

light, at one time, as well as at another. So also honourable things

are everywhere honourable, base things everywhere base. In general

phrase, existent things are everywhere existent,[37] non-existent

things are not existent. Whoever therefore fails to attain the

existent and real, fails to attain the lawful and just. It is only

the man of art and knowledge, in this or that department, who attains

the existent, the real, the right, true, lawful, just. Thus the

authoritative rescripts or laws in matters of medicine, are those

laid down by practitioners who know that subject, all of whom agree

in what they lay down: the laws of cookery, the laws of agriculture

and of gardening--are rescripts delivered by artists who know

respectively each of those subjects. So also about Just and Unjust,

about the political and social arrangements of the city--the

authoritative rescripts or laws are, those laid down by the artists

or men of knowledge in that department, all of whom agree in laying

down the same: that is, all the men of art called kings or lawgivers.

It is only the right, the true, the real--that which these artists

attain--which is properly a law and is entitled to be so called. That

which is not right is not a law,--ought not to be so called--and is

only supposed to be a law by the error of ignorant men.[38]

[Footnote 37: M. Boeckh remarks justly in his note on this

passage--"neque enim illud demonstratum est, eadem omnibus legitima

esse--sed tantum, _notionem_" (rather the sentiment or emotion)

"_legitimi_ omnibus eandem esse. Sed omnia scriptor hic

confundit."]

[Footnote 38: Plato, Minos, 317 C.]

[Side-note: Reasoning of Sokrates in the Minos is unsound,

but Platonic. The Good, True, and Real, coalesce in the mind of

Plato--he acknowledges nothing to be Law, except what he thinks ought

to _be_ Law.]

That the reasoning of Sokrates in this dialogue is confused and

unsound (as M. Boeckh and other critics have remarked), I perfectly

agree. But it is not the less completely Platonic; resting upon views

and doctrines much cherished and often reproduced by Plato. The

dialogue Minos presents, in a rude and awkward manner, without

explanation or amplification, that worship of the Abstract and the

Ideal, which Plato, in other and longer dialogues, seeks to diversify

as well as to elaborate. The definitions of Law here combated and

given by Sokrates, illustrate this. The good, the true, the right,

the beautiful, the real--all coalesce in the mind of Plato. There is

nothing (in his view) real, except _The_ Good, _The_ Just, &c.

([Greek: to\ au)to-a)gatho\n]; [Greek: au)to-di/kaion]--Absolute

Goodness and Justice): particular good and just things have

no reality, they are no more good and just than bad and unjust--they

are one or the other, according to circumstances--they are ever

variable, floating midway between the real and unreal.[39] The real

alone is knowable, correlating with knowledge or with the knowing

Intelligence [Greek: Nou=s]. As Sokrates distinguishes elsewhere

[Greek: to\ di/kaion] or [Greek: au)to-di/kaion] from [Greek: ta\

di/kaia]--so here he distinguishes ([Greek: no/mos] from [Greek: ta\

nomizo/mena]) _Law_, from the assemblage of actual commands or

customs received as _laws_ among mankind. These latter are

variable according to time and place; but Law is always one and the

same. Plato will acknowledge nothing to _be_ Law, except that

which (he thinks) _ought to be_ Law: that which emanates from a

lawgiver of consummate knowledge, who aims at the accomplishment of

the good and the real, and knows how to discover and realise that

end. So far as "the decree of the city" coincides with what would

have been enacted by this lawgiver (_i. e._ so far as it is good

and right), Sokrates admits it as a valid explanation of Law; but no

farther. He considers the phrase _bad law_ to express a logical

impossibility, involving a contradiction _in adjecto_.[40] What

others call a bad law, he regards as being no real law, but only

a fallacious image, mistaken for such by the ignorant. He does not

consider such ignorant persons as qualified to judge: he recognises

only the judgment of the knowing one or few, among whom he affirms

that there can be no difference of opinion. Every one admits just

things to be just,--unjust things to be unjust,--heavy things to be

heavy,--the existent and the real, to be the existent and the real.

If then the lawgiver in any of his laws fails to attain this reality,

he fails in the very purpose essential to the conception of law:[41]

_i. e._ his pretended law is no law at all.

[Footnote 39: See the remarkable passage in the fifth book of the

Republic, pp. 479-480; compare vii. 538 E.]

[Footnote 40: Plato, Minos, 314 D.

The same argument is brought to bear by the Platonic Sokrates against

Hippias in the Hippias Major, 284-285. If the laws are not really

profitable, which is the only real purpose for which they were

established, they are no laws at all. The Spartans are [Greek:

para/nomoi]. Some of the answers assigned to Hippias (284 D) are

pertinent enough; but he is overborne.]

[Footnote 41: Plato, Minos, 316 B. [Greek: O(\s a)\n a)/ra tou=

o)/ntos a(marta/nê, tou= nomi/mou a(marta/nei.]]

[Side-note: Plato worships the Ideal of his own mind--the work

of systematic constructive theory by the Wise Man.]

By _Law_ then, Plato means--not the assemblage of actual

positive rules, nor any general property common to and characteristic

of them, nor the free determination of an assembled Demos as

distinguished from the mandates of a despot--but the Type of Law as

it ought to be, and as it would be, if prescribed by a perfectly wise

ruler, aiming at good and knowing how to realise it. This, which is

the ideal of his own mind, Plato worships and reasons upon as if it

were the only reality; as Law by nature, or natural Law,

distinguished from actual positive laws: which last have either been

set by some ill-qualified historical ruler, or have grown up

insensibly. Knowledge, art, philosophy, systematic and constructive,

applied by some one or few exalted individuals, is (in his view) the

only cause capable of producing that typical result which is true,

good, real, permanent, and worthy of the generic name.

[Side-note: Different applications of this general Platonic

view, in the Minos, Politikus, Kratylus, &c. _Natural_

Rectitude of Law, Government, Names, &c.]

In the Minos, this general Platonic view is applied to Law: in the

Politikus, to government and social administration: in the Kratylus,

to naming or language. In the Politikus, we find the received

classification of governments (monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy)

discarded as improper; and the assertion advanced, That there is only

one government right, true, genuine, really existing--government by

the uncontrolled authority and superintendence of the man of exalted

intelligence: he who is master in the art of governing, whether

such man do in fact hold power anywhere or not. All other governments

are degenerate substitutes for this type, some receding from it less,

some more.[42] Again, in the Kratylus, where names and name-giving

are discussed, Sokrates[43] maintains that things can only be named

according to their true and real nature--that there is, belonging to

each thing, one special and appropriate Name-Form, discernible only

by the sagacity of the intelligent Lawgiver: who alone is competent

to bestow upon each thing its right, true, genuine, real name,

possessing rectitude by nature ([Greek: o)rtho/tês phu/sei]).[44]

This Name-Form (according to Sokrates) is the same in all languages

in so far as they are constructed by different intelligent Lawgivers,

although the letters and syllables in which they may clothe the Form

are very different.[45] If names be not thus apportioned by the

systematic purpose of an intelligent Lawgiver, but raised up by

insensible and unsystematic growth--they will be unworthy substitutes

for the genuine type, though they are the best which actual societies

possess; according to the opinion announced by Kratylus in that same

dialogue, they will not be names at all.[46]

[Footnote 42: Plato, Politikus, 293 C-E. [Greek: tau/tên o)rthê\n

diaphero/ntôs ei)=nai kai\ mo/nên politei/an, e)n ê(=| tis a)\n

eu(/riskoi tou\s a)/rchontas a)lêthô=s e)pistê/monas kai\ ou)

dokou=ntas mo/non . . . to/te kai\ kata\ tou\s toiou/tous o(/rous

ê(mi=n mo/nên o)rthê\n politei/an ei)=nai r(ête/on. o(/sas de\

a)/llas le/gomen, _ou) gnêsi/as ou)d' o)/ntôs ou)/sas lekte/on_,

a)lla\ memimême/nas tau/tên, a(/s me\n eu)no/mous le/gomen, e)pi\ ta\

kalli/ô, ta\s de\ a)/llas e)pi\ ta\ ai)schi/ona memimê=sthai.]

The historical (Xenophontic) Sokrates asserts this same position in

Xenophon's Memorabilia (iii. 9, 10). "Sokrates said that Kings and

Rulers were those who knew how to command, not those who held the

sceptre or were chosen by election or lot, or had acquired power by

force or fraud," &c.

The Kings of Sparta and Macedonia, the [Greek: Boulê\] and [Greek:

Dê=mos] of Athens, the Despot of Syracuse or Pheræ are here declared

to be not real rulers at all.]

[Footnote 43: Plato, Kratylus, 387 D.]

[Footnote 44: Plato, Kratyl. 388 A-E.]

[Footnote 45: Plato, Kratyl. 389 E, 390 A, 432 E. [Greek: Ou)kou=n

ou)/tôs a)xiô/seis kai\ to\n nomothe/tên to/n te e)ntha/de kai\ to\n

e)n toi=s barba/rois, e(/ôs a)\n to\ tou= o)no/matos ei)=dos

a)podidô=| to\ prosê=kon e(ka/stô| e)n o(poiaisou=n sullabai=s,

ou)de\n chei/rô nomothe/tên ei)=nai to\n e)ntha/de ê)\ to\n o(pouou=n

a)/llothi?] Compare this with the Minos, 315 E, 316 D, where Sokrates

evades, by an hypothesis very similar, the objection made by the

collocutor, that the laws in one country are very different from

those in another--[Greek: i)/sôs ga\r ou)k e)nnoei=s tau=ta

metapetteuo/mena o(/ti tau)ta/ e)stin.]]

[Footnote 46: Plato, Kratyl. 430 A, 432 A, 433 D, 435 C.

Kratylus says that a name badly given is no name at all; just as

Sokrates says in the Minos that a bad law is no law at all.]

[Side-note: Eulogy on Minos, as having established laws on

this divine type or natural rectitude.]

The Kretan Minos (we here find it affirmed), son, companion, and

pupil of Zeus, has learnt to establish laws of this divine type or

natural rectitude: the proof of which is, that the ancient Kretan

laws have for immemorial ages remained, and still do remain,[47]

unchanged. But when Sokrates tries to determine, Wherein consists

this Law-Type? What is it that the wise Lawgiver prescribes for the

minds of the citizens--as the wise gymnastic trainer prescribes

proper measure of nourishment and exercise for their bodies?--the

question is left unanswered. Sokrates confesses with shame that he

cannot answer it: and the dialogue ends in a blank. The

reader--according to Plato's manner--is to be piqued and shamed

into the effort of meditating the question for himself.

[Footnote 47: Plato, Minos, 319 B, 321 A.]

[Side-note: The Minos was arranged by Aristophanes at first in

a Trilogy along with the Leges.]

An attempt to answer this question will be found in Plato's Treatise

De Legibus--in the projected Kretan colony, of which he there

sketches the fundamental laws. Aristophanes of Byzantium very

naturally placed this treatise as sequel to the Minos; second in the

Trilogy of which the Minos was first.[48]

[Footnote 48: I reserve for an Appendix some further remarks upon the

genuineness of Hipparchus and Minos.]

[Side-note: Explanations of the word Law--confusion in its

meaning.]

Whoever has followed the abstract of the Minos, which I have just

given, will remark the different explanations of the word Law--both

those which are disallowed, and that which is preferred, though left

incomplete, by Sokrates. On this same subject, there are in many

writers, modern as well an ancient, two distinct modes of confusion

traceable--pointed out by eminent recent jurists, such as Mr.

Bentham, Mr. Austin, and Mr. Maine. 1. Between Law as it is, and Law

as it ought to be. 2. Between Laws Imperative, set by intelligent

rulers, and enforced by penal sanction--and Laws signifying

uniformities of fact expressed in general terms, such as the Law of

Gravitation, Crystallisation, &c.--We can hardly say that in the

dialogue Minos, Plato falls into the first of these two modes of

confusion: for he expressly says that he only recognises the Ideal of

Law, or Law as it ought to be (actual Laws everywhere being

disallowed, except in so far as they conform thereunto). But he does

fall into the second, when he identifies the Lawful with the Real or

Existent. His Ideal stands in place of generalisations of fact.

There is also much confusion, if we compare the Minos with other

dialogues; wherein Plato frequently talks of Laws as the laws and

customs actually existing or imperative in any given state--Athens,

Sparta, or elsewhere ([Greek: No/mos = ta\ nomizo/mena], according to

the first words in the Minos). For example, in the harangue which he

supposes to be addressed to Sokrates in the Kriton, and which he

invests with so impressive a character--the Laws of Athens are

introduced as speakers: but according to the principles laid down in

the Minos, three-fourths of the Laws of Athens could not be regarded

as laws at all. If therefore we take Plato's writings throughout, we

shall not find that he is constant to one uniform sense of the word

Law, or that he escapes the frequent confusion between Law as it

actually exists and Law as it ought to be.[49]

[Footnote 49: The first explanation of [Greek: No/mos] advanced by

the Companion in reply to Sokrates (viz. [Greek: No/mos = ta\

nomizo/mena], coincides substantially with the meaning of [Greek:

No/mos basileu\s] in Pindar and Herodotus (see above, chap. viii.),

who is an imaginary ruler, occupying a given region, and enforcing

[Greek: ta\ nomizo/mena]. It coincides also with the precept [Greek:

No/mô| po/leôs], as prescribed by the Pythian priestess to applicants

who asked advice about the proper forms of religious worship (Xen.

Mem. i. 3, 1); though this precept, when Cicero comes to report it

(Legg. ii. 16, 40), appears divested of its simplicity, and

over-clouded with the very confusion touched upon in my text. Aristotle

does not keep clear of the confusion (compare Ethic. Nikom. i. 1,

1094, b. 16, and v. 5, 1130, b. 24). I shall revert again to the

distinction between [Greek: no/mos] and [Greek: phu/sis], in touching

on other Platonic dialogues. Cicero expressly declares (Legg. ii. 5,

11), conformably to what is said by the Platonic Sokrates in the

Minos, that a bad law, however passed in regular form, is no law at

all; and this might be well if he adhered consistently to the same

phraseology, but he perpetually uses, in other places, the words

_Lex_ and _Leges_ to signify laws actually in force at

Rome, good or bad.

Mr. Bentham gives an explanation of Law or The Law, which coincides

with [Greek: No/mos = ta\ nomizo/mena]. He says (Principles of Morals

and Legislation, vol. ii. ch. 17, p. 257, ed. 1823), "Now Law, or The

Law, taken indefinitely, is an abstract and collective term, which,

when it means anything, can mean neither more nor less than the sum

total of a number of individual laws taken together".

Mr. Austin in his Lectures, 'The Province of Jurisprudence

Determined', has explained more clearly and copiously than any

antecedent author, the confused meanings of the word Law adverted to

in my text. See especially his first lecture and his fifth, pp. 88

seq. and 171 seq., 4th ed.]

* * * * *

APPENDIX.

In continuing to recognise Hipparchus and Minos as Platonic works,

contrary to the opinion of many modern critics, I have to remind the

reader, not only that both are included in the Canon of Thrasyllus,

but that the Minos was expressly acknowledged by Aristophanes of

Byzantium, and included by him among the Trilogies: showing that it

existed then (220 B.C.) in the Alexandrine Museum as a

Platonic work. The similarity between the Hipparchus and Minos is

recognised by all the Platonic critics, most of whom declare that

both of them are spurious. Schleiermacher affirms and vindicates this

opinion in his Einleitung and notes: but it will be convenient to

take the arguments advanced to prove the spuriousness, as they are

set forth by M. Boeckh, in his "Comment. in Platonis qui vulgo fertur

Minoem": in which treatise, though among his early works, the case is

argued with all that copious learning and critical ability, which

usually adorn his many admirable contributions to the improvement of

philology.

M. Boeckh not only rejects the pretensions of Hipparchus and Minos to

be considered as works of Plato, but advances an affirmative

hypothesis to show what they are. He considers these two dialogues,

together with those De Justo, and De Virtute (two short dialogues in

the pseudo-Platonic list, not recognised by Thrasyllus) as among the

dialogues published by Simon; an Athenian citizen and a shoemaker by

trade, in whose shop Sokrates is said to have held many of his

conversations. Simon is reported to have made many notes of these

conversations, and to have composed and published, from them, a

volume of thirty-three dialogues (Diog. L. ii. 122), among the titles

of which there are two--[Greek: Peri\ Philkerdou=s] and [Greek: Peri\

No/mou]. Simon was, of course, contemporary with Plato; but somewhat

older in years. With this part of M. Boeckh's treatise, respecting

the supposed authorship of Simon, I have nothing to do. I only notice

the arguments by which he proposes to show that Hipparchus and Minos

are not works of Plato.

In the first place, I notice that M. Boeckh explicitly recognises

them as works of an author contemporary with Plato, not later

than 380 B.C. (p. 46). Hereby many of the tests, whereby we

usually detect spurious works, become inapplicable.

In the second place, he admits that the dialogues are composed in

good Attic Greek, suitable to the Platonic age both in character and

manners--"At veteris esse et Attici scriptoris, probus sermo, antiqui

mores, totus denique character, spondeat," p. 32.

The reasons urged by M. Boeckh to prove the spuriousness of the

Minos, are first, that it is unlike Plato--next, that it is too much

like Plato. "Dupliciter dialogus a Platonis ingenio discrepat: partim

quod parum, partim quod nimium, similis ceteris ejusdem scriptis sit.

Parum similis est in rebus permultis. Nam cum Plato adhuc vivos ac

videntes aut nuper defunctos notosque homines, ut scenicus poeta

actores, moribus ingeniisque accurate descriptis, nominatim producat

in medium--in isto opusculo cum Socrate colloquens persona plané

incerta est ac nomine carens: quippe cum imperitus scriptor esset

artis illius colloquiis suis _dulcissimas veneres_ illas

inferendi, quæ ex peculiaribus personarum moribus pingendis

redundant, atque à Platone ut flores per amplos dialogorum hortos

sunt disseminatæ" (pp. 7-8): again, p. 9, it is complained that there

is an "infinitus secundarius collocutor" in the Hipparchus.

Now the sentence, just transcribed from M. Boeckh, shows that he had

in his mind as standard of comparison, a certain number of the

Platonic works, but that he did not take account of all of them. The

Platonic Protagoras begins with a dialogue between Sokrates and an

unknown, nameless person; to whom Sokrates, after a page of

conversation with him, recounts what has just passed between himself,

Protagoras, and others. Next, if we turn to the Sophistês and

Politikus, we find that in both of them, not simply the secundarius

collocutor, but even the principal speaker, is an unknown and

nameless person, described only as a Stranger from Elea, and never

before seen by Sokrates. Again, in the Leges, the principal speaker

is only an [Greek: A)thênai=os xe/nos], without a name. In the face

of such analogies, it is unsafe to lay down a peremptory rule, that

no dialogue can be the work of Plato, which acknowledges as

_collocutor_ an unnamed person.

Then again--when M. Boeckh complains that the Hipparchus and Minos

are destitute of those "_flores et dulcissimæ Veneres_" which

Plato is accustomed to spread through his dialogues--I ask, Where are

the "dulcissimæ Veneres" in the Parmenidês, Sophistês, Politikus,

Leges, Timæus, Kritias? I find none. The presence of "dulcissimæ

Veneres" is not a condition _sine quâ non_, in every

composition which pretends to Plato as its author: nor can the

absence of them be admitted as a reason for disallowing Hipparchus

and Minos.

The analogy of the Sophistês and Politikus (besides Symposium,

Republic, and Leges) farther shows, that there is nothing wonderful

in finding the titles of Hipparchus and Minos derived from the

subjects ([Greek: Peri\ Philkerdou=s] and [Greek: Peri\ No/mou]), not

from the name of one of the collocutors:--whether we suppose the

titles to have been bestowed by Plato himself, or by some subsequent

editor (Boeckh, p. 10).

To illustrate his first ground of objection--Dissimilarity between

the Minos and the true Platonic writings--M. Boeckh enumerates (pp.

12-23) several passages of the dialogue which he considers

unplatonic. Moreover, he includes among them (p. 12) examples of

confused and illogical reasoning. I confess that to me this evidence

is noway sufficient to prove that Plato is not the author. That

certain passages may be picked out which are obscure, confused,

inelegant--is certainly no sufficient evidence. If I thought so, I

should go along with Ast in rejecting the Euthydêmus, Menon, Lachês,

Charmidês, Lysis, &c., against all which Ast argues as spurious,

upon evidence of the same kind. It is not too much to say, that

against almost every one of the dialogues, taken severally, a case of

the same kind, more or less plausible, might be made out. You might

in each of them find passages peculiar, careless, awkwardly

expressed. The expression [Greek: tê\n a)nthrôpei/an a)ge/lên tou=

sô/matos], which M. Boeckh insists upon so much as improper, would

probably have been considered as a mere case of faulty text, if it

had occurred in any other dialogue: and so it may fairly be

considered in the Minos.

Moreover as to faults of logic and consistency in the reasoning, most

certainly these cannot be held as proving the Minos not to be Plato's

work. I would engage to produce, from most of his dialogues, defects

of reasoning quite as grave as any which the Minos exhibits. On the

principle assumed by M. Boeckh, every one who agreed with Panætius in

considering the elaborate proof given in the Phædon, of the

immortality of the soul, as illogical and delusive--would also agree

with Panætius in declaring that the Phædon was not the work of Plato.

It is one question, whether the reasoning in any dialogue be good or

bad: it is another question, whether the dialogue be written by Plato

or not. Unfortunately, the Platonic critics often treat the first

question as if it determined the second.

M. Boeckh himself considers that the evidence arising from

dissimilarity (upon which I have just dwelt) is not the strongest

part of his case. He relies more upon the evidence arising from

_too much similarity_, as proving still more clearly the

spuriousness of the Minos. "Jam pergamus ad alteram partem nostræ

argumentationis, _eamque etiam firmiorem_, de _nimia

similitudine_ Platonicorum aliquot locorum, quæ imitationem doceat

subesse. Nam de hoc quidem conveniet inter omnes doctos et indoctos,

Platonem se ipsum haud posse imitari: nisi si quis dubitet de sanâ

ejus mente" (p. 23). Again, p. 26, "Jam vero in nostro colloquio

Symposium, Politicum, Euthyphronem, Protagoram, Gorgiam, Cratylum,

Philêbum, dialogos expressos ac tantum non compilatos reperies". And

M. Boeckh goes on to specify various passages of the Minos, which he

considers to have been imitated, and badly imitated, from one or

other of these dialogues.

I cannot agree with M. Boeckh in regarding this _nimia

similitudo_ as the strongest part of his case. On the contrary, I

consider it as the weakest: because his own premisses (in my

judgment) not only do not prove his conclusion, but go far to prove

the opposite. When we find him insisting, in such strong language,

upon the great analogy which subsists between the Minos and seven of

the incontestable Platonic dialogues, this is surely a fair proof

that its author is the same as their author. To me it appears as

conclusive as internal evidence ever can be; unless there be some

disproof _aliunde_ to overthrow it. But M. Boeckh produces no

such disproof. He converts these analogies into testimony in his own

favour, simply by bestowing upon them the name _imitatio,--stulta

imitatio_ (p. 27). This word involves an hypothesis, whereby the

point to be proved is assumed--viz.: difference of authorship. "Plato

cannot have imitated himself" (M. Boeckh observes). I cannot admit

such impossibility, even if you describe the fact in that phrase: but

if you say "Plato in one dialogue thought and wrote like Plato in

another"--you describe the same fact in a different phrase, and it

then appears not merely possible but natural and probable. Those very

real analogies, to which M. Boeckh points in the word

_imitatio_, are in my judgment cases of the Platonic thought in

one dialogue being like the Platonic thought in another. The

_similitudo_, between Minos and these other dialogues, can

hardly be called _nimia_, for M. Boeckh himself points out that

it is accompanied with much difference. It is a similitude, such as

we should expect between one Platonic dialogue and another: with this

difference, that whereas, in the Minos, Plato gives the same general

views in a manner more brief, crude, abrupt--in the other dialogues

he works them out with greater fulness of explanation and

illustration, and some degree of change not unimportant. That there

should be this amount of difference between one dialogue of Plato and

another appears to me perfectly natural. On the other hand--that

there should have been a contemporary _falsarius_ (scriptor

miser, insulsus, vilissimus, to use phrases of M. Boeckh), who

studied and pillaged the best dialogues of Plato, for the purpose of

putting together a short and perverted abbreviation of them--and who

contrived to get his miserable abbreviation recognised by the

Byzantine Aristophanes among the genuine dialogues notwithstanding

the existence of the Platonic school--this, I think highly

improbable.

I cannot therefore agree with M. Boeckh in thinking, that "ubique se

prodens Platonis imitatio" (p. 31) is an irresistible proof of

spuriousness: nor can I think that his hypothesis shows itself to

advantage, when he says, p. 10--"Ipse autem dialogus (Minos) quum

post Politicum compositus sit, quod quædam in eo dicta rebus ibi

expositis manifesté nitantur, ut paullo post ostendemus--quis est qui

artificiosissimum philosophum, postquam ibi (in Politico) accuratius

de naturâ legis egisset, de eâ iterum putet negligenter egisse?"--I

do not think it so impossible as it appears to M. Boeckh, that a

philosopher, after having _written_ upon a given subject

_accuratius_, should subsequently write upon it

_negligenter_. But if I granted this ever so fully, I should

still contend that there remains another alternative. The negligent

workmanship may have preceded the accurate: an alternative which I

think is probably the truth, and which has nothing to exclude it

except M. Boeckh's pure hypothesis, that the Minos must have been

copied from the Politikus.

While I admit then that the Hipparchus and Minos are among the

inferior and earlier compositions of Plato, I still contend that

there is no ground for excluding them from the list of his works.

Though the Platonic critics of this century are for the most part of

an adverse opinion, I have with me the general authority of the

critics anterior to this century--from Aristophanes of Byzantium down

to Bentley and Ruhnken--see Boeckh, pp. 7-32.

Yxem defends the genuineness of the Hipparchus--(Ueber Platon's

Kleitophon, p. 8. Berlin, 1846).

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