Mr. JENNER. I have a folder here [showing to witness]--is that----

Mrs. BATES. No; it's one of those that folds over from the top.

Mr. JENNER. I appreciate that--but I'm holding this up only for size.

Mrs. BATES. Oh! Well, it's approximately that long, but it was a little

wider.

Mr. JENNER. The length of this, I think [measuring with ruler]--it's 15

inches.

Mrs. BATES. Well, I have some up at my office. I use them all the time

to, you know, send abstracts out in.

Mr. JENNER. That's 15 by 9.

Mrs. BATES. Well, I am sure, as I remember it--of course, now, this was

some time ago--it was approximately 10 by 14 or 10 by 15--and it looks

like what I use.

Mr. JENNER. And it had a flap on it?

Mrs. BATES. Uh-huh. Just a regular seal at the top. I think they are

Carrollton Clasp or something like that.

He said that he had notes that he had smuggled out of Russia. And I

looked up at him kinda surprised. I said, "Have you been to Russia?"

He said, "Yes, ma'am. I just got back." And that he had smuggled these

notes out of Russia under his clothes, next to his skin.

Mr. JENNER. We fixed the time of this inquiry--didn't we?

Mrs. BATES. Yes; June 18. I mean, when he first came in my office.

Mr. JENNER. 1962?

Mrs. BATES. Uh-huh.

And that he wanted to have them typed by a professional typist. He

said, "Some of them are typed on a little portable, some of 'em are

handwritten in ink, some of 'em in pencil."

He said, "I'll have to sit right here with you and help you with 'em

because some of 'em are in Russian and some of them are in English."

So, we agreed that I would do it--but I hadn't seen them yet.

Mr. JENNER. You hadn't seen the notes yet?

Mrs. BATES. Huh-uh.

Mr. JENNER. Did he have a package under his arm on that occasion?

Mrs. BATES. Yes. He had it with him.

Mr. JENNER. What agreement--you mean that you agreed that you would do

it? Had you reached a conclusion as to the rate?

Mrs. BATES. Well, I immediately lowered it to $2 an hour. I was anxious

to get on it.

Mr. JENNER. Why did you become anxious to get on it?

Mrs. BATES. Well, anybody that had just come back from Russia and had

notes, I would like to have seen them. And he didn't look like he

had--he looked like a high school kid to me when he first came in. I

thought he was just a kid.

Mr. JENNER. Uh-huh.

Mrs. BATES. And I do a lot of thesis work for college and high school

students.

And then I started asking him some questions--"Why did you go to

Russia?"--and a few things like that. Some of 'em he'd answer and some

of em he wouldn't.

Mr. JENNER. Now, give me your best recollection of everything that was

said on that occasion.

Mrs. BATES. Well, I'm trying to get it in sequence.

Mr. JENNER. Okay.

Mrs. BATES. We agreed that I would start typing the notes--and he

wanted an original and one carbon. But he would take the carbon--he

wanted the original and one carbon and also take the carbon with him.

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