Mrs. SIEGEL. No. I must have seen between 400 and 450 boys a year in
those days. I don't remember.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you remember talking to his mother at all?
Mrs. SIEGEL. No; I do not. I don't even know if I saw her. I am
terribly curious to see my report again.
Mr. LIEBELER. How long do you know Dr. Hartogs?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Well, we were associated over a period of from 1952 to
1958--6 years.
Mr. LIEBELER. Have you seen him since that time?
Mrs. SIEGEL. No; we don't see each other socially at all.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you haven't spoken to him?
Mrs. SIEGEL. No; I haven't.
Mr. LIEBELER. About the Oswald case; is that right?
Mrs. SIEGEL. No; I haven't seen him since I left Youth House.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any recollection that from time to time
the psychiatrist, Dr. Hartogs, would give seminars as a technique to
instruct or provide examples to the social workers and perhaps the
psychologists and other employees of Youth House?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Well, I don't remember that Dr. Hartogs gave the seminars.
We all participated in them, social workers and psychiatrists. I
remember them vividly. I was a participant, myself.
Mr. LIEBELER. I didn't mean to characterize Dr. Hartogs' role as being
the sole role.
Mrs. SIEGEL. Oh, no.
Mr. LIEBELER. But there were seminars?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Oh, there were seminars. Certainly. I misunderstood you.
Yes; there were seminars which took place weekly.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any recollection that Lee Oswald was the
subject of one of these seminars?
Mrs. SIEGEL. No; I do not.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you have any recollection of what the reason for
Oswald's being remanded to Youth House was?
Mrs. SIEGEL. I only read in the paper that it was truancy.
Mr. LIEBELER. And you have no independent recollection about it
otherwise at all?
Mrs. SIEGEL. No; I do not.
Mr. LIEBELER. I show you a photostatic copy of a document entitled
"Youth House, Social Worker's Report," which is dated Bronx, May 7,
1953, referring to case No. 26996. This report indicates that the
social worker involved was Evelyn Strickman, which would at that time
have been you; is that correct?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. And still is?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. I hand you this document, and tell me if that is the
report which you prepared in connection with your work with Lee Harvey
Oswald. Are you able to state whether or not that is the report you
prepared?
Mrs. SIEGEL. This is indubitably mine.
Mr. LIEBELER. These reports were prepared shortly after your contact
with the boy, with the mother, or prepared from notes that you made of
the interview, were they not?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Oh, yes; they were prepared probably during the time he
was still at Youth House.
Mr. LIEBELER. The point being that the report would accurately reflect
the interview that you had both with Lee Oswald and with his mother?
Mrs. SIEGEL. As accurately as I could; yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. And it was prepared on or about the time that you
conducted the interview, was it not?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Correct, yes; and shortly afterward.
(Document marked "Exhibit 1.")
Mr. LIEBELER. I have marked the photostatic copy of the exhibit as
Exhibit 1 to the deposition of Evelyn Strickman Siegel, April 17, 1964,
and I have initialed it for purposes of identification. I would ask if
you would initial it also so that we can make sure that we are talking
about the same thing.
(Witness complies.)
Mr. LIEBELER. I show you another report, which upon examination you
will note contains much of the same material as is set forth in the
Exhibit No. 1, and ask you if you recognize the sheaf of photostatic
copies which I have just shown you and if you can tell me what they are.
Mrs. SIEGEL. This is my report. Just a minute. This is what I dictated
into the record before I pulled from it the essential material which
should go into the report to the court.
Mr. LIEBELER. So that the photostatic document that I have just shown
you was prepared before Exhibit No. 1, and closer in time to your
actual contact with the boy and with the mother?
Mrs. SIEGEL. This is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. The one you have in your hand?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Right.
Mr. LIEBELER. And from the document you hold in your hand you prepared
Exhibit No. 1, which is the formal report which was submitted to
the court along with the report of Dr. Hartogs and perhaps of other
personnel; is that correct?
Mrs. SIEGEL. This is correct.
Mr. LIEBELER. We will mark the document to which we have just been
referring, which is captioned "Oswald, Lee Harvey--Charge: Truancy,"
and has "Youth House" written at the top of it, and which consists of
7 pages, the last of which has the typewritten name "Evelyn Strickman"
and the date 4-30-53, and bears your initials--does it not?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Those are the initials of Marion Cohen, who was casework
supervisor at Youth House at that time. That shows she read it.
Mr. LIEBELER. She read it also?
Mrs. SIEGEL. Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER. And we will mark the document Exhibit No. 2.
(Document marked "Exhibit 2.")
Mrs. SIEGEL. Wait a minute. Let me just correct that. Marion would have
written her own initials. That isn't my handwriting. I never made an
"E" like that. I don't know who did that.
Mr. LIEBELER. You have no question, however, that this is the report
prepared by you?
Mrs. SIEGEL. No; I have absolutely no question. This is my dictation
into the record. I know--that was Sadie Skolnick. That was the
undersupervisor at the time. That is who that S.S. is.
Mr. LIEBELER. I have initialed Exhibit 2. So that we are sure we are
talking about the same exhibit, would you initial it also, please?