CHAP. LIII.--101. The question is also commonly raised, whether baptism

is to be held valid which is received from one who had not himself

received it, if, from some promptings of curiosity, he had chanced to

learn how it ought to be conferred; and whether it makes no difference

in what spirit the recipient receives it, whether in mockery or in

sincerity: if in mockery, whether the difference arises when the

mockery is of deceit, as in the Church, or in what is thought to be

the Church; or when it is in jest, as in a play: and which is the more

accursed, to receive it deceitfully in the Church, or in heresy or

schism without deceit, that is to say, with full sincerity of heart;

or whether it be worse to receive it deceitfully in heresy or in good

faith in a play, if any one were to be moved by a sudden feeling of

religion in the midst of his acting. And yet, if we compare such an

one even with him who receives it deceitfully in the Catholic Church

itself, I should be surprised if any one were to doubt which of the

two should be preferred; for I do not see of what avail the intention

of him who gives in truth can be to him who receives deceitfully. But

let us consider, in the case of some one also giving it in deceit,

when both the giver and the recipient are acting deceitfully in the

unity of the Catholic Church itself, whether this should rather be

acknowledged as baptism, or that which is given in a play, if any one

should be found who received it faithfully from a sudden impulse of

religion: or whether it be not true that, so far as the men themselves

are concerned, there is a very great difference between the believing

recipient in a play, and the mocking recipient in the Church; but that

in regard to the genuineness of the sacrament there is no difference.

For if it makes no difference in respect to the genuineness of the

sacrament within the Catholic Church itself, whether certain persons

celebrate it in truth or in deceit, so long as both still celebrate

the same thing, I cannot see why it should make a difference outside,

seeing that he who receives it is not cloaked by his deceit, but he is

changed by his religious impulse. Or have those truthful persons among

whom it is celebrated more power for the confirmation of the sacrament,

than those deceitful men by whom and in whom it is celebrated can exert

for its invalidation? And yet, if the deceit be subsequently brought

to light, no one seeks a repetition of the sacrament; but the fraud is

either punished by excommunication or set right by penitence.

102. But the safe course for us is, not to advance with any rashness of

judgment in setting forth a view which has neither been started in any

provincial Council of the Catholic Church nor established in a general

one; but to assert, with all the confidence of a voice that cannot be

gainsaid, what has been confirmed by the consent of the universal

Church, under the direction of our Lord God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Nevertheless, if any one were to press me--supposing I were duly seated

in a Council in which a question were raised on points like these--to

declare what my own opinion was, without reference to the previously

expressed views of others, whose judgment I would rather follow, if

I were under the influence of the same feelings as led me to assert

what I have said before, I should have no hesitation in saying that

all men possess baptism who have received it in any place, from any

sort of men, provided that it were consecrated in the words of the

gospel, and received without deceit on their part with some degree of

faith; although it would be of no profit to them for the salvation

of their souls if they were without charity, by which they might be

grafted into the Catholic Church. For "though I have faith," says the

apostle, "so that I could remove mountains, but have not charity, I

am nothing."[635] Just as already, from the established decrees of

our predecessors, I have no hesitation in saying that all those have

baptism who, though they receive it deceitfully, yet receive it in the

Church, or where the Church is thought to be by those in whose society

it is received, of whom it was said, "They went out from us."[636] But

when there was no society of those who so believed, and when the man

who received it did not himself hold such belief, but the whole thing

was done as a farce, or a comedy, or a jest,--if I were asked whether

the baptism which was thus conferred should be approved, I should

declare my opinion that we ought to pray for the declaration of God's

judgment through the medium of some revelation, seeking it with united

prayer and earnest groanings of suppliant devotion, humbly deferring

all the time to the decision of those who were to give their judgment

after me, in case they should set forth anything as already known and

determined. And, therefore, how much the more must I be considered to

have given my opinion now without prejudice to the utterance of more

diligent research or authority higher than my own!

* * * * *

CHAP. LIV.--103. But now I think that it is fully time for me to bring

to their due termination these books also on the subject of baptism, in

which our Lord God has shown to us, through the words of the peaceful

Bishop Cyprian and his brethren who agreed with him, how great is the

love which should be felt for catholic unity; so that even where they

were otherwise minded until God should reveal even this to them,[637]

they should rather bear with those who thought differently from

themselves, than sever themselves from them by a wicked schism; whereby

the mouths of the Donatists are wholly closed, even if we say nothing

of the followers of Maximian. For if the wicked pollute the good in

unity, then even Cyprian himself already found no Church to which he

could be joined. But if the wicked do not infect the good in unity,

then the sacrilegious Donatist has no ground to set before himself for

separation. But if baptism is both possessed and transferred by the

multitude of others who work the works of the flesh, of which it is

said, that "they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of

God,"[638] then it is possessed and transferred also by heretics, who

are numbered among those works; because they could have transferred it

had they remained, and did not lose it by their secession. But men of

this kind confer it on their fellows as fruitlessly and uselessly as

the others who resemble them, inasmuch as they shall not inherit the

kingdom of God. And as, when those others are brought into the right

path, it is not that baptism begins to be present, having been absent

before, but that it begins to profit them, having been already in them;

so is it the case with heretics as well. Whence Cyprian and those who

thought with him could not impose limits on the Catholic Church, which

they would not mutilate. But in that they were otherwise minded we feel

no fear, seeing that we too share in their veneration for Peter; yet in

that they did not depart from unity we rejoice, seeing that we, like

them, are founded on the rock.

FOOTNOTES:

[531] Wisd. ix. 15.

[532] Gal. ii. 11.

[533] Mactaris was in Byzacene.

[534] Siccilibba was in Zeugitana.

[535] Gor is variously supposed to be Garra in Mauritania, or Garriana

in Byzacene.

[536] Utica, the well-known city in Zeugitana, where Cato died.

[537] 1 Tim. v. 22.

[538] Matt. vi. 15.

[539] Germaniciana Nova was in Byzacene.

[540] Rucuma was in Zeugitana.

[541] Gen. i. 4.

[542] The position of Luperciana is unknown.

[543] See 1 Kings xviii. 21.

[544] Matt. vii. 24-27.

[545] Midila was in Numidia.

[546] Marazana was in Byzacene.

[547] Eph. iv. 5.

[548] Nec ... mutati. "Nec" is restored by Migne from the MSS.

[549] Eph. v. 27. See _Retract._ ii. 18, quoted on I. xvii. 26.

[550] Bobba was in Mauritania Tingitana.

[551] Rom. iii. 3, 4.

[552] 2 Cor. vi. 16.

[553] Dionysiana was in Byzacene.

[554] John xx. 23.

[555] Tinisa was in Zeugitana.

[556] 1 Cor. xv. 33, 32.

[557] 2 Cor. xi. 3.

[558] Ausnaga was in Zeugitana.

[559] John i. 33.

[560] Victoriana was in Byzacene.

[561] Ps. l. 16, 18.

[562] Matt. vii. 23.

[563] Tucca was in Numidia.

[564] He is alluding to Stephen, bishop of Rome, of whom Cyprian says

in his seventy-fourth epistle (to Pompeius): "Why has the perverse

obstinacy of our brother Stephen burst out to such a point, that

he should even contend that sons of God are born of the baptism of

Marcion, and others who blaspheme against God the Father?"

[565] Zama was in Numidia, famous for Hannibal's defeat by Scipio.

[566] Ululi and Cibaliana were both in Byzacene.

[567] Tharassa was in Numidia.

[568] Gal. ii. 11.

[569] Telepte, or Thala, was in Byzacene.

[570] John iii. 27.

[571] Timida Regia was in Zeugitana.

[572] Furni was in Zeugitana.

[573] Phil. iii. 15.

[574] Nova was in Zeugitana.

[575] Bulla Regia was an inland town of Numidia.

[576] Cypr. _Ep._ lxxiii. sec. 20.

[577] Membresa was in Zeugitana.

[578] John ix. 31.

[579] Buslaceni is probably Byzacium, the capital of Byzacene, since we

know that it was also called Bizica Lucana.

[580] Abitini was in Byzacene.

[581] Aggya, probably the same as Aggiva.

[582] The position of Marcelliana is unknown.

[583] Matt. vi. 24.

[584] Horrea Celiae was a village of Byzacene, ten miles north of

Hadrumetum.

[585] Assura was in Zeugitana.

[586] See Eph. iv. 4-6.

[587] Capsa was in Byzacene.

[588] Rusiccada was at the mouth of the Thapsus, in Numidia.

[589] Cuiculi was in Numidia Cæsariensis.

[590] Hippo Diarrhytus was on the coast of Zeugitana.

[591] Ausafa was in Zeugitana.

[592] Gurgites was in Byzacene.

[593] Lamasba was in Numidia.

[594] 2 Cor. ii. 15.

[595] Mark ix. 38.

[596] Gazaufala was in Numidia.

[597] Tucca was in Mauritania Cæsariensis.

[598] Octavus and Mascula were in Numidia.

[599] Matt. xvi. 18, 19.

[600] Thambei was in Byzacene.

[601] Isa. xxix. 13.

[602] Chullabi, or Cululi, was in Byzacene.

[603] 2 John 10, 11.

[604] 1 Tim. i. 5.

[605] Hos. ii.

[606] 1 Cor. v. 11.

[607] Gemelli was a Roman colony in Numidia.

[608] Matt. xv. 14.

[609] Illuminare; baptism being often called [Greek: phôtismos].

[610] Sabrata, Oea, and Leptis Magna, were the three cities whose

combination gave its name to Tripolis. The privilege of bishops to

give their votes by proxy in a Council appears to have existed in very

early times, and is perhaps referable to the example of St. Paul's

interference in the Council of Achæan Bishops, though absent in body, 1

Cor. v. 4.

[611] Neapolis was in Zeugitana.

[612] Cypr. _Ep._ lxxiii.

[613] Cypr. _Ep._ lxix. sec. 4.

[614] Phil. i. 15, 17.

[615] Ps. lxviii. 6, from the LXX.

[616] John vi. 51.

[617] Matt. xxvi. 26-29.

[618] Phil. i. 18.

[619] Matt. xvi. 18.

[620] Cant. vi. 9.

[621] Eph. v. 27; cp. _Retract._ ii. 18.

[622] Cant. iv. 12, 13.

[623] Matt. xvi. 19.

[624] Matt. xviii. 17.

[625] Ps. xxvi. 8.

[626] Ps. lxviii. 6, from the LXX.

[627] Ps. cxxii. 1.

[628] Ps. lxxxiv. 4.

[629] Matt. xiii. 23; Luke viii. 15.

[630] 2 Tim. ii. 20.

[631] Eph. iv. 2, 3.

[632] 1 Cor. iii. 17.

[633] 2 Tim. ii. 20. In _Retract._ ii. 18, Augustine says that he

thinks the meaning of this last passage to be, not as Cyprian took it,

_Ep._ liv. sec. 2, that the vessels of gold and silver are the good,

which are to honour; the vessels of wood and earth the wicked, which

are to dishonour: but that the material of the vessels refers to the

outward appearance of the several members of the Church, and that in

each class some will be found to honour, and some to dishonour. This

interpretation he derives from Tychonius.

[634] 1 John ii. 19.

[635] 1 Cor. xiii. 2.

[636] 1 John ii. 19.

[637] Phil. iii. 15.

[638] Gal. v. 19-21.

THE THREE BOOKS OF AUGUSTINE,

BISHOP OF HIPPO,

IN ANSWER TO

THE LETTERS OF PETILIAN, THE DONATIST,

BISHOP OF CIRTA.

BOOK FIRST.

WRITTEN IN THE FORM OF A LETTER ADDRESSED TO THE CATHOLICS, IN WHICH

THE FIRST PORTION OF THE LETTER WHICH PETILIAN HAD WRITTEN TO HIS

ADHERENTS IS EXAMINED AND REFUTED.

_Augustine, to the well-beloved brethren that belong to the care of our

diocese, greeting in the Lord._

CHAP. I.--1. Ye know that we have often wished to bring forward into

open notoriety, and to confute, not so much from our own arguments as

from theirs, the sacrilegious error of the Donatist heretics; whence it

came to pass that we wrote letters even to some of their leaders,--not

indeed for purposes of communion with them, for of that they had

already in times past rendered themselves unworthy by dissenting

from the Church; nor yet in terms of reproach, but of a conciliatory

character, with the view that, having discussed the question with us

which caused them to break off from the holy communion of the whole

world, they might, on consideration of the truth, be willing to be

corrected, and might not defend the headstrong perversity of their

predecessors with a yet more foolish obstinacy, but might be reunited

to the Catholic stock, so as to bring forth the fruits of charity.

But as it is written, "I am for peace, but when I speak they are for

war,"[639] so they rejected my letters, just as they hate the very

name of peace, in whose interests they were written. Now, however,

as I was in the church of Constantina, Absentius being present, with

my colleague Fortunatus, his bishop, the brethren brought before my

notice a letter, which they said that a bishop of the said schism had

addressed to his presbyters, as was set forth in the superscription

of the letter itself. When I had read it, I was so amazed to find

that in his very first words he cut away the very roots of the whole

claims of his party to communion, that I was unwilling to believe

that it could be the letter of a man who, if fame speaks truly, is

especially conspicuous among them for learning and eloquence. But some

of those who were present when I read it, being acquainted with the

style and character of his composition, gradually persuaded me that

it was undoubtedly his address. I thought, however, that whoever the

author might be, it required refutation, lest the writer should seem to

himself, in the company of the inexperienced, to have written something

of weight against the Catholic Church.

2. The first point, then, that he lays down in his letter is the

statement, "that we find fault with them for the repetition of baptism,

while we ourselves pollute our souls with a laver stained with guilt."

But to what profit is it that I should reproduce all his insulting

terms? For, since it is one thing to strengthen proofs, another thing

to meddle with abusive words by way of refutation, let us rather turn

our attention to the mode in which he has sought to prove that we

do not possess baptism, and that therefore they do not require the

repetition of what was already present, but confer what hitherto was

wanting. For he says: "What we look for is the conscience of the giver

to cleanse that of the recipient." But supposing the conscience of

the giver is concealed from view, and perhaps defiled with sin, how

will it be able to cleanse the conscience of the recipient, if, as he

says, "what we look for is the conscience of the giver to cleanse that

of the recipient?" For if he should say that it makes no matter to

the recipient what amount of evil may lie concealed from view in the

conscience of the giver, perhaps that ignorance may have such a degree

of efficacy as this, that a man cannot be defiled by the guilt of the

conscience of him from whom he receives baptism, so long as he is

unaware of it. Let it then be granted that the guilty conscience of his

neighbour cannot defile a man so long as he is unaware of it, but is it

therefore clear that it can further cleanse him from his own guilt?

* * * * *

CHAP. II.--3. Whence, then, is a man to be cleansed who receives

baptism, when the conscience of the giver is polluted without the

knowledge of him who is to receive it? Especially when he goes on

to say, "For he who receives faith from the faithless receives not

faith, but guilt." There stands before us one that is faithless

ready to baptize, and he who should be baptized is ignorant of his

faithlessness: what think you that he will receive? Faith, or guilt?

If you answer faith, then you will grant that it is possible that a

man should receive not guilt, but faith, from him that is faithless;

and the former saying will be false, that "he who receives faith

from the faithless receives not faith, but guilt." For we find that

it is possible that a man should receive faith even from one that is

faithless, if he be not aware of the faithlessness of the giver. For

he does not say, He who receives faith from one that is openly and

notoriously faithless; but he says, "He who receives faith from the

faithless receives not faith, but guilt;" which certainly is false when

a person is baptized by one who hides his faithlessness. But if he

shall say, Even when the faithlessness of the baptizer is concealed,

the recipient receives not faith from him, but guilt, then let them

rebaptize those who are well known to have been baptized by men who in

their own body have long concealed a life of guilt, but have eventually

been detected, convicted, and condemned.

* * * * *

CHAP. III.--For, so long as they escaped detection, they could not

bestow faith on any whom they baptized, but only guilt, if it be true

that whosoever receives faith from one that is faithless receives not

faith, but guilt. Let them therefore be baptized by the good, that

they may be enabled to receive not guilt, but faith.

4. But how, again, shall they have any certainty about the good who are

to give them faith, if what we look to is the conscience of the giver,

which is unseen by the eyes of the proposed recipient? Therefore,

according to their judgment, the salvation of the spirit is made

uncertain, so long as in opposition to the holy Scriptures, which say,

"It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man,"[640]

and, "Cursed be the man that trusteth in man,"[641] they remove the

hope of those who are to be baptized from the Lord their God, and

persuade them that it should be placed in man; the practical result

of which is, that their salvation becomes not merely uncertain, but

actually null and void. For "salvation belongeth unto the Lord,"[642]

and "vain is the help of man."[643] Therefore, whosoever places his

trust in man, even in one whom he knows to be just and innocent, is

accursed. Whence also the Apostle Paul finds fault with those who said

they were of Paul, saying, "Was Paul crucified for you? or were ye

baptized in the name of Paul?"[644]

* * * * *

CHAP. IV.--5. Wherefore, if they were in error, and would have perished

had they not been corrected, who wished to be of Paul, what must we

suppose to be the hope of those who wished to be of Donatus? For they

use their utmost endeavours to prove that the origin, root, and head

of the baptized person is none other than the individual by whom he

is baptized. The result is, that since it is very often a matter of

uncertainty what kind of man the baptizer is, the hope therefore of the

baptized being of uncertain origin, of uncertain root, of uncertain

head, is of itself uncertain altogether. And since it is possible

that the conscience of the giver may be in such a condition as to

be accursed and defiled without the knowledge of the recipient, it

results that, being of an accursed origin, accursed root, accursed

head, the hope of the baptized may prove to be vain and ungrounded. For

Petilian expressly states in his epistle, that "everything consists

of an origin and root; and if it have not something for a head, it is

nothing." And since by the origin and root and head of the baptized

person he wishes to be understood the man by whom he is baptized, what

good does the unhappy recipient derive from the fact that he does

not know how bad a man his baptizer really is? For he does not know

that he himself has a bad head, or actually no head at all. And yet

what hope can a man have, who, whether he is aware of it or not, has

either a very bad head or no head at all? Can we maintain that his very

ignorance forms a head, when his baptizer is either a bad head or none

at all? Surely any one who thinks this is unmistakeably without a head.

* * * * *

CHAP. V.--6. We ask, therefore, since he says, "He who receives faith

from the faithless receives not faith, but guilt," and immediately adds

to this the further statement, that "everything consists of an origin

and root; and if it have not something for a head, it is nothing;"--we

ask, I say, in a case where the faithlessness of the baptizer is

undetected: If, then, the man whom he baptizes receives faith, and not

guilt; if, then, the baptizer is not his origin and root and head,

who is it from whom he receives faith? where is the origin from which

he springs? where is the root of which he is a shoot? where the head

which is his starting-point? Can it be, that when he who is baptized

is unaware of the faithlessness of his baptizer, it is then Christ who

is the origin and root and head? Alas for human rashness and conceit!

Why do you not allow that it is always Christ who gives faith, for

the purpose of making a man a Christian by giving it? Why do you not

allow that Christ is always the origin of the Christian, that the

Christian always plants his root in Christ, that Christ is the head of

the Christian? Do we then maintain that, even when spiritual grace is

dispensed to those that believe by the hands of a holy and faithful

minister, it is still not the minister himself who justifies, but that

One of whom it is said, that "He justifieth the ungodly?"[645] But

unless we admit this, either the Apostle Paul was the head and origin

of those whom he had planted, or Apollos the root of those whom he had

watered, rather than He who had given them faith in believing; whereas

the same Paul says, "I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the

increase: so then neither is he that planteth anything, nor he that

watereth, but God that giveth the increase."[646] Nor was the apostle

himself their root, but rather He who says, "I am the vine, ye are the

branches."[647] How, too, could he be their head, when he says, that

"we, being many, are one body in Christ,"[648] and expressly declares

in many passages that Christ Himself is the head of the whole body?

* * * * *

CHAP. VI.--7. Wherefore, whether a man receive the sacrament of baptism

from a faithful or a faithless minister, his whole hope is in Christ,

that he fall not under the condemnation that "cursed is he that placeth

his hope in man." Otherwise, if each man is born again in spiritual

grace of the same sort as he by whom he is baptized, and if when he who

baptizes him is manifestly a good man, then he himself gives faith,

he is himself the origin and root and head of him who is being born;

whilst, when the baptizer is faithless without its being known, then

the baptized person receives faith from Christ, then he derives his

origin from Christ, then he is rooted in Christ, then he boasts in

Christ as his head,--in that case all who are baptized should wish

that they might have faithless baptizers, and be ignorant of their

faithlessness: for however good their baptizers might have been, Christ

is certainly beyond comparison better still; and He will then be the

head of the baptized, if the faithlessness of the baptizer shall escape

detection.

* * * * *

CHAP. VII.--8. But if it is perfect madness to hold such a view (for

it is Christ always that justifieth the ungodly, by changing his

ungodliness into Christianity; it is from Christ always that faith

is received, Christ is always the origin of the regenerate and the

head of the Church), what weight, then, will those words have, which

thoughtless readers value by their sound, without inquiring what

their inner meaning is? For the man who does not content himself with

hearing the words with his ear, but considers the meaning of the

phrase, when he hears, "What we look to is the conscience of the giver,

that it may cleanse the conscience of the recipient," will answer, The

conscience of man is often unknown to me, but I am certain of the mercy

of Christ: when he hears, "He who receives faith from the faithless

receives not faith, but guilt," will answer, Christ is not faithless,

from whom I receive not guilt, but faith: when he hears, "Everything

consists of an origin and root; and if it have not something for a

head, is nothing," will answer, My origin is Christ, my root is Christ,

my head is Christ. When he hears, "Nor does anything well receive

second birth, unless it be born again of good seed," he will answer,

The seed of which I am born again is the Word of God, which I am warned

to hear with attention, even though he through whom I hear it does

not himself do what he preaches; according to the words of the Lord,

which make me herein safe, "All whatsoever they bid you observe, that

observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do

not."[649] When he hears, "What perversity must it be, that he who is

guilty through his own sins should make another free from guilt!" he

will answer, No one makes me free from guilt but He who died for our

sins, and rose again for our justification. For I believe, not in the

minister by whose hands I am baptized, but in Him who justifieth the

ungodly, that my faith may be counted unto me for righteousness.[650]

* * * * *

CHAP. VIII.--9. When he hears, "Every good tree bringeth good fruit,

but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit: do men gather grapes of

thorns?"[651] and, "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart

bringeth forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure

bringeth forth evil things;"[652] he will answer, This therefore is

good fruit, that I should be a good tree, that is, a good man; that

I should show forth good fruit, that is, good works. But this will

be given to me, not by him that planteth, nor by him that watereth,

but by God that giveth the increase. For if the good tree be the good

baptizer, so that his good fruit should be the man whom he baptizes,

then any one who has been baptized by a bad man, even if his

wickedness be not manifest, will have no power to be good, for he is

sprung from an evil tree. For a good tree is one thing; a tree whose

quality is concealed, but yet bad, is another. Or if, when the tree is

bad, but hides its badness, then whosoever is baptized by it is born

not of it, but of Christ; then they are justified with more perfect

holiness who are baptized by the bad who hide their evil nature, than

they who are baptized by the manifestly good.[653]

* * * * *

CHAP. IX.--10. Again, when he hears, "He that is washed by one dead,

his washing profiteth him nought,"[654] he will answer, "Christ, being

raised from the dead, dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over

Him:"[655] of whom it is said, "The same is He which baptizeth with the

Holy Ghost."[656] But they are baptized by the dead, who are baptized

in the temples of idols. For even they themselves do not suppose that

they receive the sanctification which they look for from their priests,

but from their gods; and since these were men, and are dead in such

sort as to be now neither upon earth nor in the rest of heaven,[657]

they are truly baptized by the dead: and the same answer will hold good

if there be any other way in which these words of holy Scripture may

be examined, and profitably discussed and understood. For if in this

place I understand a baptizer who is a sinner, the same absurdity will

follow, that whosoever has been baptized by an ungodly man, even though

his ungodliness be undiscovered, is yet washed in vain, as though

baptized by one dead. For he does not say, He that is baptized by one

manifestly dead, but absolutely, "by one dead." And if they consider

any man to be dead whom they know to be a sinner, but any one in their

communion to be alive, even though he manages most adroitly to conceal

a life of wickedness, in the first place with accursed pride they claim

more for themselves than they ascribe to God, that when a sinner is

unveiled to them he should be called dead, but when he is known by

God he is held to be alive. In the next place, if that sinner is to

be called dead who is known to be such by men, what answer will they

make about Optatus, whom they were afraid to condemn though they had

long known his wickedness? Why are those who were baptized by him not

said to have been baptized by one dead? Did he live because faith was

in his company?[658]--an elegant and well-turned saying of some early

colleagues of their own, which they themselves are wont to quote with

pride, not understanding that at the death of the haughty Goliath it

was his own sword by which his head was cut off.[659]

* * * * *

CHAP. X.--11. Lastly, if they are willing to give the name of dead

neither to the wicked man whose sin is hidden, nor to him whose sin

is manifest, but who has yet not been condemned by them, but only to

him whose sin is manifest and condemned, so that whosoever is baptized

by him is himself baptized by the dead, and his washing profits

him nothing; what are we to say of those whom their own party have

condemned "by the unimpeachable voice of a general Council,"[660]

together with Maximianus and the others who ordained him,--I mean

Felicianus of Musti, and Prætextatus of Assura, of whom I speak in the

meantime, who are counted among the twelve ordainers of Maximianus,

as erecting an altar in opposition to their altar at which Primianus

stands? They at any rate are reckoned by them among the dead. To this

we have the express testimony of the noble decree of that Council of

theirs which formerly called forth shouts of unreserved[661] applause

when it was recited among them for the purpose of being decreed, but

which would now be received in silence if we should chance to recite

it in their ears; whereas they should rather have been slow at first

to rejoice in its eloquence, lest they should afterwards come to mourn

over it when its credit was destroyed. For in it they speak in the

following terms of the followers of Maximianus, who were shut out from

their communion: "Seeing that the shipwrecked members of certain men

have been dashed by the waves of truth upon the sharp rocks, and after

the fashion of the Egyptians, the shores are covered with the bodies

of the dying; whose punishment is intensified in death itself, since

after their life has been wrung from them by the avenging waters, they

fail to find so much as burial." In such gross terms, indeed, do they

insult those who were guilty of schism from their body, that they call

them dead and unburied; but certainly they ought to have wished that

they might obtain burial, if it were only that they might not have

seen Optatus Gildonianus advancing with a military force, and like a

sweeping wave that dashes beyond its fellows, sucking back Felicianus

and Prætextatus once again within their pale, out of the multitude of

bodies lying unburied on the shore.

* * * * *

CHAP. XI.--12. Of these I would ask, whether by coming to their sea

they were restored to life, or whether they are still dead there? For

if still they are none the less corpses, then the laver cannot in

any way profit those who are baptized by such dead men. But if they

have been restored to life, yet how can the laver profit those whom

they baptized before outside, while they were lying without life, if

the passage, "He who is baptized by the dead, of what profit is his

baptism to him," is to be understood in the way in which they think?

For those whom Prætextatus and Felicianus baptized while they were

yet in communion with Maximianus are now retained among them, sharing

in their communion, without being again baptized, together with the

same men who baptized them--I mean Felicianus and Prætextatus: taking

occasion by which fact, if it were not that they cherish the beginning

of their own obstinacy, instead of considering the certain end of their

spiritual salvation, they would certainly be bound to vigilance, and

ought to recover the soundness of their senses, so as to breathe again

in Catholic peace; if only, laying aside the swelling of their pride,

and overcoming the madness of their stubbornness, they would take heed

and see what monstrous sacrilege it is to curse the baptism of the

foreign churches, which we have learned from the sacred books were

planted in primitive times, and to receive the baptism of the followers

of Maximianus, whom they have condemned with their own lips.

* * * * *

CHAP. XII.--13. But our brethren themselves, the sons of the aforesaid

churches, were both ignorant at the time, and still are ignorant, of

what has been done so many years ago in Africa: wherefore they at any

rate cannot be defiled by the charges which have been brought, on the

part of the Donatists, against the Africans, without even knowing

whether they were true. But the Donatists having openly separated and

divided themselves off, although they are even said to have taken part

in the ordination of Primianus, yet condemned the said Primianus,

ordained another bishop in opposition to Primianus, baptized outside

the communion of Primianus, rebaptized after Primianus, and returned

to Primianus with their disciples who had been baptized by themselves

outside, and never rebaptized by any one inside. If such a union

with the party of Maximianus does not pollute the Donatists, how can

the mere report concerning the Africans pollute the foreigners? If

the lips meet together without offence in the kiss of peace, which

reciprocally condemned each other, why is each man that is condemned

by them in the churches very far removed by the intervening sea from

their jurisdiction, not saluted with a kiss as a faithful Catholic, but

driven forth with a blast of indignation as an impious pagan? And if,

in receiving the followers of Maximianus, they made peace in behalf of

their own unity, far be it from us to find fault with them, save that

they cut their own throats by their decision, that whereas, to preserve

unity in their schism, they collect together again what had been parted

from themselves, they yet scorn to reunite their schism itself to the

true unity of the Church.

* * * * *

CHAP. XIII.--14. If, in the interests of the unity of the party of

Donatus, no one rebaptizes those who were baptized in a wicked schism,

and men, who are guilty of a crime of such enormity as to be compared

by them in their Council to those ancient authors of schism whom the

earth swallowed up alive,[662] are either unpunished after separation,

or restored again to their position after condemnation; why is it

that, in defence of the unity of Christ, which is spread throughout

the whole inhabited world, of which it has been predicted that it

shall have dominion from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends

of the earth,[663]--a prediction which seems from actual proof to be

in process of fulfilment; why is it that, in defence of this unity,

they do not acknowledge the true and universal law of that inheritance

which rings forth from the books that are common to us all: "I shall

give Thee the heathen for Thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of

the earth for Thy possession?"[664] In behalf of the unity of Donatus,

they are not compelled to call together again what they have scattered

abroad, but are warned to hear the cry of the Scriptures: why will they

not understand that they meet with such treatment through the mercy

of God, that since they brought false charges against the Catholic

Church, by contact as it were with which they were unwilling to defile

their own excessive sanctity, they should be compelled by the sovereign

authority of Optatus Gildonianus to receive again and associate with

themselves true offences of the greatest enormity, condemned by the

true voice, as they say, of their own general Council? Let them at

length perceive how they are filled with the true crimes of their own

party, after inventing fictitious crimes wherewith to charge their

brethren, when, even if the charges had been true, they ought at length

to feel how much should be endured in the cause of peace, and in behalf

of Christ's peace to return to a Church which did not condemn crimes

undiscovered, if on behalf of the peace of Donatus they were ready to

pardon such as were condemned.

* * * * *

CHAP. XIV.--15. Therefore, brethren, let it suffice us that they should

be admonished and corrected on the one point of their conduct in

the matter of the followers of Maximianus. We do not ransack ancient

archives, we do not bring to light the contents of time-honoured

libraries, we do not publish our proofs to distant lands; but we bring

in, as arbiters betwixt us, all the proofs derived from our ancestors,

we spread abroad the witness that cries aloud throughout the world.

* * * * *

CHAP. XV.--16. Look at the states of Musti and Assura: there are many

still remaining in this life and in this province who have severed

themselves, and many from whom they have severed themselves; many

who have erected an altar, and many against whom that altar has been

erected; many who have condemned, and many who have been condemned;

who have received, and who have been received; who have been baptized

outside, and not baptized again within: if all these things in the

cause of unity defile, let the defiled hold their tongues; if these

things in the cause of unity do not defile, let them submit to

correction, and terminate their strife.

* * * * *

CHAP. XVI.--17. As for the words which follow in his letter, the

writer himself could scarcely fail to laugh at them, when, having made

an unlearned and lying use of the proof in which he quotes the words

of Scripture, "He who is washed by the dead, what profiteth him his

washing?" he endeavours to show to us "how far a _traditor_ being still

in life may be accounted dead." And then he goes on further to say:

"That man is dead who has not been worthy to be born again in true

baptism; he is likewise dead, who, although born in genuine baptism,

has joined himself to a _traditor_." If, therefore, the followers of

Maximianus are not dead, why do the Donatists say, in their general

Council, that "the shores are covered with their dying bodies?" But if

they are dead, whence is there life in the baptism which they gave?

Again, if Maximianus is not dead, why is a man baptized again who had

been baptized by him? But if he is dead, why is not also Felicianus of

Musti dead with him, who ordained him, and might have died beyond the

sea with some African colleague or another who was a _traditor_? Or, if

he also is himself dead, how is there life with him in your society in

those who, having been baptized outside by him who is dead, have never

been baptized again within?

* * * * *

CHAP. XVII.--18. Then he further adds: "Both are without the life of

baptism, both he who never had it at all, and he who had it but has

lost it." He therefore never had it, whom Felicianus, the follower of

Maximianus or Prætextatus, baptized outside; and these men themselves

have lost what once they had. When, therefore, these were received

with their followers, who gave to those whom they baptized what

previously they did not have? and who restored to themselves what they

had lost? But they took away with them the form of baptism, but lost

the veritable excellence of baptism by their wicked schism. Why do you

repudiate the form itself, which is holy at all times and all places,

in the Catholics whom you have not heard, whilst you are willing to

acknowledge it in the followers of Maximianus whom you have punished?

19. But whatever he seemed to himself to say by way of accusation

about the traitor Judas, I see not how it can concern us, who are

not proved by them to have betrayed our trust; nor, indeed, if such

treason were proved on the part of any who before our time have

died in our communion, would that treason in any way defile us by

whom it was disavowed, and to whom it was displeasing. For if they

themselves are not defiled by offences condemned by themselves, and

afterwards condoned, how much less can we be defiled by what we

have disavowed so soon as we have heard of them! However weighty,

therefore, his invective against _traditors_, let him be assured that

they are condemned by me in precisely the same terms. But yet I make

a distinction; for he accuses one on my side who has long been dead

without having been condemned in any investigation made by me. I point

to a man adhering closely to his side, who had been condemned by him,

or at least had been separated by a sacrilegious schism, and whom he

received again with undiminished honour.

* * * * *

CHAP. XVIII.--20. He says: "You who are a most abandoned _traditor_

have come out in the character of a persecutor and murderer of us who

keep the law." If the followers of Maximianus kept the law when they

separated from you, then we may acknowledge you as a keeper of the

law, when you are separated from the Church spread abroad throughout

the world. But if you raise the question of persecutions, I at once

reply: If you have suffered anything unjustly, this does not concern

those who, though they disapprove of men who act in such a way,[665]

yet endure them for the peace that is in unity, in a manner deserving

of all praise. Wherefore you have nothing to bring up against the

Lord's wheat, who endure the chaff that is among them till the last

winnowing, from whom you never would have separated yourself, had you

not shown yourself lighter than chaff by flying away under the blast of

temptation before the coming of the Winnower. But not to leave this one

example, which the Lord hath thrust back in their teeth, to close the

mouths of these men, for their correction if they will show themselves

to be wise, but for their confusion if they remain in their folly: if

those are more just that suffer persecution than those who inflict

it, then those same followers of Maximianus are the more just, whose

basilica was utterly overthrown, and who were grievously maltreated by

the military following of Optatus, when the mandates of the proconsul,

ordering that all of them should be shut out of the basilicas, were

manifestly procured by the followers of Primianus. Wherefore, if, when

the emperors hated their communion, they ventured on such violent

measures for the persecution of the followers of Maximianus, what would

they do if they were enabled to work their will by being in communion

with kings? And if they did such things as I have mentioned for the

correction of the wicked, why are they surprised that Catholic emperors

should decree with greater power that they should be worked upon

and corrected who endeavour to rebaptize the whole Christian world,

when they have no ground for differing from them? seeing that they

themselves bear witness that it is right to bear with wicked men even

where they have true charges to bring against them in the cause of

peace, since they received those whom they had themselves condemned,

acknowledging the honours conferred among themselves, and the baptism

administered in schism. Let them at length consider what treatment they

deserve at the hands of the Christian powers of the world, who are

the enemies of Christian unity throughout the world. If, therefore,

correction be bitter, yet let them not fail to be ashamed; lest, when

they begin to read what they themselves have written, they be overcome

with laughter, when they do not find in themselves what they wish to

find in others, and fail to recognise[666] in their own case what they

find fault with in their neighbours.

* * * * *

CHAP. XIX.--21. What, then, does he mean by quoting in his letter the

words with which our Lord addressed the Jews: "Wherefore, behold, I

send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes; and some of them ye

shall kill and crucify, and some of them shall ye scourge"?[667] For

if by the wise men and the scribes and the prophets they would have

themselves be understood, while we were as it were the persecutors of

the prophets and wise men, why are they unwilling to speak with us,

seeing they are sent to us? For, indeed, if the man who wrote that

epistle which we are at this present moment answering, were to be

pressed by us to acknowledge it as his own, stamping its authenticity

with his signature, I question much whether he would do it, so

thoroughly afraid are they of our possessing any words of theirs. For

when we were anxious by some means or other to procure the latter

part of this same letter, because those from whom we obtained it were

unable to describe the whole of it, no one who was asked for it was

willing to give it to us, so soon as they knew that we were making a

reply to the portion which we had. Therefore, when they read how the

Lord says to the prophet, "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like

a trumpet, and show my people their transgression,"[668] these men

who are sent to us as prophets have no fears on this score, but take

every precaution that their crying may not be heard by us: which they

certainly would not fear if what they spoke of us were true. But their

apprehension is not groundless, as it is written in the Psalm, "The

mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped."[669] For if the reason

that they do not receive our baptism be that we are a generation of

vipers--to use the expression in his epistle--why did they receive the

baptism of the followers of Maximianus, of whom their Council speaks

in the following terms: "Because the enfolding of a poisoned womb has

long concealed the baneful offspring of a viper's seed, and the moist

concretions of conceived iniquity have by slow heat flowed forth into

the members of serpents?" Is it not therefore of themselves also that

it is said in the same Council, "The poison of asps is under their

lips, their mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet are

swift to shed blood; destruction and unhappiness is in their ways, and

the way of peace have they not known"?[670] And yet they now hold these

men themselves in undiminished honour, and receive within their body

those whom these men had baptized without.

* * * * *

CHAP. XX.--22. Wherefore all this about the generation of vipers,

and the poison of asps under their lips, and all the other things

which they have said against those which have not known the way of

peace, are really, if they would but speak the truth, more strictly

applicable to themselves, since for the sake of the peace of Donatus

they received the baptism of these men, in respect of which they used

the expressions quoted above in the wording of the decree of the

Council; but the baptism of the Church of Christ dispersed throughout

the world, from which peace itself came into Africa, they repudiate,

to the sacrilegious wounding of the peace of Christ. Which, therefore,

are rather the false prophets, who come in sheep's clothing, whilst

inwardly they are ravening wolves,[671]--they who either fail to detect

the wicked in the Catholic Church, and communicate with them in all

innocence, or else for the sake of the peace of unity are bearing with

those whom they cannot separate from the threshing-floor of the Lord

before the Winnower shall come; or they who do in schism what they

censure in the Catholic Church, and receive in their own separation,

when manifest to all and condemned by their own voice, what they

profess that they shun in the unity of the Church when it calls for

toleration, and does not even certainly exist?

* * * * *

CHAP. XXI.--23. Lastly, it has been said, as he himself has also

quoted, "Ye shall know them by their fruits:"[672] let us therefore

examine into their fruits. You bring up against our predecessors their

delivery of the sacred books. This very charge we urge with greater

probability against their accusers themselves. And not to carry our

search too far, in the same city of Constantina your predecessors

ordained Silvanus bishop at the very outset of his schism. He,

while he was still a sub-deacon, was most unmistakeably entered as

a _traditor_ in the archives of the city. If you on your side bring

forward documents against our predecessors, all that we ask is equal

terms,--that we should either believe both to be true or both to be

false. If both are true, you are unquestionably guilty of schism, who

have pretended that you avoid offences in the communion of the whole

world, which you had commonly among you in the small fragment of your

own sect. But again, if both are false, you are unquestionably guilty

of schism, who, on account of the false charges of giving up the sacred

books, are staining yourselves with the heinous offence of severance

from the Church. But if we have something to urge in accusation while

you have nothing, or if our charges are true whilst yours are false, it

is no longer matter of discussion how thoroughly your mouths are closed.

* * * * *

CHAP. XXII.--24. What if the holy and true Church of Christ were to

convince and overcome you, even if we held no documents in support of

our cause, or only such as were false, while you had possession of

some genuine proofs of delivery of the sacred books? what would then

remain for you, except that, if you would, you should show your love

of peace, or otherwise should hold your tongues?[673] For whatever, in

that case, you might bring forward in evidence, I should be able to say

with the greatest ease and the most perfect truth, that then you are

bound to prove as much to the full and catholic unity of the Church

already spread abroad and established throughout so many nations, to

the end that you should remain within, and that those whom you convict

should be expelled. And if you have endeavoured to do this, certainly

you have not been able to make good your proof; and being vanquished or

enraged, you have separated yourselves, with all the heinous guilt of

sacrilege, from the guiltless men who could not condemn on insufficient

proof. But if you have not even endeavoured to do this, then with most

accursed and unnatural blindness you have cut yourselves off from the

wheat of Christ, which grows throughout His whole fields, that is,

throughout the whole world, until the end, because you have taken

offence at a few tares in Africa.[674]

* * * * *

CHAP. XXIII.--25. In conclusion, the Testament is said to have been

given to the flames by certain men in the time of persecution. Now

let its lessons be read, from whatever source it has been brought to

light. Certainly in the beginning of the promises of the Testator this

is found to have been said to Abraham: "In thy seed shall all the

nations of the earth be blessed;"[675] and this saying is truthfully

interpreted by the apostle: "To thy seed," he says, "which is

Christ."[676] No betrayal on the part of any man has made the promises

of God of none effect. Hold communion with all the nations of the

earth, and then you may boast that you have preserved the Testament

from the destruction of the flames. But if you will not do so, which

party is the rather to be believed to have insisted on the burning of

the Testament, save that which will not assent to its teaching when

it is brought to light? For how much more certainly, without any

sacrilegious rashness, can he be held to have joined the company of

_traditors_ who now persecutes with his tongue the Testament which

they are said to have persecuted with the flames! You charge us with

the persecution: the true wheat of the Lord answers you, "Either it

was done justly, or it was done by the chaff that was among us." What

have you to say to this? You object that we have no baptism: the same

true wheat of the Lord answers you, that the form of the sacrament

even within the Church fails to profit some, as it did no good to

Simon Magus when he was baptized, much more it fails to profit those

who are without. Yet that baptism remains in them when they depart, is

proved from this, that it is not restored to them when they return.

Never, therefore, except by the greatest shamelessness, will you be

able to cry out against that wheat, or to call them false prophets clad

in sheep's clothing, whilst inwardly they are ravening wolves; since

either they do not know the wicked in the unity of the Catholic Church,

or for the sake of unity bear with those whom they know.

* * * * *

CHAP. XXIV.--26. But let us turn to the consideration of your fruits.

I pass over the tyrannous exercise of authority in the cities, and

especially in the estates of other men; I pass over the madness of the

Circumcelliones, and the sacrilegious and profane adoration of the

bodies of those who had thrown themselves of their own accord over

precipices, the revellings of drunkenness, and the ten years' groaning

of the whole of Africa under the cruelty of the one man Optatus

Gildonianus: all this I pass over, because there are certain among you

who cry out that these things are, and have ever been, displeasing to

them. But they say that they bore with them in the cause of peace,

because they could not put them down; wherein they condemn themselves

by their own judgment: for if indeed they felt such love for peace,

they never would have rent in twain the bond of unity. For what madness

can be greater, than to be willing to abandon peace in the midst of

peace itself, and to be anxious to retain it in the midst of discord?

Therefore, for the sake of those who pretend that they do not see the

evils of this same faction of Donatus, which all men see and blame,

ignoring them even to the extent of saying of Optatus himself, "What

did he do?" "Who accused him?" "Who convicted him?" "I know nothing,"

"I saw nothing," "I heard nothing,"--for the sake of these, I say, who

pretend that they are ignorant of what is generally notorious, the

party of Maximianus has arisen, through whom their eyes are opened, and

their mouths are closed: for they openly sever themselves; they openly

erect altar against altar; they are openly in a Council[677] called

sacrilegious and vipers, and swift to shed blood, to be compared with

Dathan and Abiram and Korah, and are condemned in cutting terms of

abhorrence; and are as openly received again with undiminished honours

in company with those whom they have baptized. Such are the fruits of

these men, who do all this for the peace of Donatus, that they may

clothe themselves in sheep's clothing, and reject the peace of Christ

throughout the world that they may be ravening wolves within the fold.

* * * * *

CHAP. XXV.--27. I think that I have left unanswered none of the

statements in the letter of Donatus, so far at least as relates to what

I have been able to find in that part of which we are in possession. I

should be glad if they would produce the other part as well, in case

there should be anything in it which does not admit of refutation.

But as for these answers which we have made to him, with the help of

God, I admonish your Christian love, that ye not only communicate them

to those who seek for them, but also force them on those who show no

longing for them. Let them answer anything they will; and if they

shrink from sending a reply to us, let them at any rate send letters

to their own party, only not forbidding that the contents should be

shown to us. For if they do this, they show their fruits most openly,

by which they are proved to demonstration to be ravening wolves

disguised in sheep's clothing, in that they secretly lay snares for

our sheep, and openly shrink from giving any answer to the shepherds.

We only lay to their charge the sin of schism, in which they are all

most thoroughly involved,--not the offences of certain of their party,

which some of them declare to be displeasing to themselves. If they, on

the other hand, abstain from charging us with the sins of other men,

they have nothing they can lay to our charge, and therefore they are

wholly unable to defend themselves from the charge of schism; because

it is by a wicked severance that they have separated themselves from

the threshing-floor of the Lord, and from the innocent company of the

corn that is growing throughout the world, on account of charges which

either are false, and invented by themselves, or even if true, involve

the chaff alone.

* * * * *

CHAP. XXVI.--28. But it is possible that you may expect of me that I

should go on to refute what he has introduced about Manichæus. Now,

in respect of this, the only thing that offends me is that he has

censured a most pestilent and pernicious error--I mean the heresy of

the Manichæans--in terms of wholly inadequate severity, if indeed

they amount to censure at all, though the Catholic Church has broken

down his defences by the strongest evidence of truth.[678] For the

inheritance of Christ, established in all nations, is secure against

heresies which have been shut out from the inheritance; but, as the

Lord says, "How can Satan cast out Satan?"[679] so how can the error of

the Donatists have power to overthrow the error of the Manichæans?[680]

CHAP. XXVII.--29. Wherefore, my beloved brethren, though that error is

exposed and overcome in many ways, and dare not oppose the truth on

any show of reason whatsoever, but only with the unblushing obstinacy

of impudence; yet, not to load your memory with a multitude of proofs,

I would have you bear in mind this one action of the followers of

Maximianus, confront them with this one fact, thrust this in their

teeth, to make them hold their treacherous tongues, destroy their

calumny with this, as it were a three-pronged dart destroying a

three-headed monster. They charge us with betrayal of the sacred books;

they charge us with persecution; they charge us with false baptism:

to all their charges make the same answer about the followers of

Maximianus. For they think that the proofs are lost which show that

their predecessors gave the sacred volumes to the flames; but this

at least they cannot hide, that they have received with unimpaired

honours those who were stained with the sacrilege of schism. Also they

think that those most violent persecutions are hidden, which they

direct against any who oppose them whenever they are able; but whilst

spiritual persecution surpasses bodily persecution, they received with

undiminished honours the followers of Maximianus, whom they themselves

persecuted in the body, and of whom they themselves said, "Their feet

are swift to shed blood;"[681] and this at any rate they cannot hide.

* * * * *

CHAP. XXVIII. Finally, they think that the question of baptism is

hidden, with which they deceive wretched souls. But whilst they say

that none have baptism who were baptized outside the communion of the

one Church, they received with undiminished honours the followers

of Maximianus, with those whom they baptized in schism outside the

Donatist communion, and this at least they cannot hide.

30. "But these things," they say, "bring no pollution in the cause of

peace; and it is well to bend to mercy the rigour of extreme severity,

that broken branches may be grafted in anew." Accordingly, in this way

the whole question is settled, by defeat in them, by the impossibility

of defeat for us; for if the name of peace be assumed for even the

faintest shadow of defence to justify the bearing with wicked men

in schism, then beyond all doubt the violation of true peace itself

involves detestable guilt, with nothing to be said in its defence

throughout the unity of the world.

* * * * *

CHAP. XXIX.--31. These things, brethren, I would have you retain as the

basis of your action and preaching with untiring gentleness: love men,

while you destroy errors; take of the truth without pride; strive for

the truth without cruelty. Pray for those whom you refute and convince

of error. For the prophet prays to God for mercy upon such as these,

saying, "Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek Thy name, O

Lord."[682] And this, indeed, the Lord has done already, so as to fill

the faces of the followers of Maximianus with shame in the sight of all

mankind: it only remains that they should learn how to blush to their

soul's health. For so they will be able to seek the name of the Lord,

from which they are turned away to their utter destruction, whilst they

exalt their own name in the place of that of Christ. May ye live and

persevere in Christ, and be multiplied, and abound in the love of God,

and in love towards one another, and towards all men, brethren well

beloved.

FOOTNOTES:

[639] Ps. cxx. 7.

[640] Ps. cxviii. 8.

[641] Jer. xvii. 5.

[642] Ps. iii. 8.

[643] Ps. lx. 11.

[644] 1 Cor. i. 13.

[645] Rom. iv. 5.

[646] 1 Cor. iii. 6, 7.

[647] John xv. 5.

[648] Rom. xii. 5.

[649] Matt. xxiii. 3.

[650] Rom. iv. 25, 5.

[651] Matt. vii. 17, 16.

[652] Matt. xii. 35.

[653] See below, Book II. vi. 12.

[654] So the Donatists commonly quoted Ecclus. xxxiv. 25, which is

more correctly rendered in our version, "He that washeth himself after

the touching of a dead body, if he touch it again, what availeth

his washing?" Augustine (_Retract._ i. 21, sec. 3) says that the

misapplication was rendered possible by the omission in many African

Mss. of the second clause, "and touches it again."

[655] Rom. vi. 9.

[656] John i. 33.

[657] Cp. _Contra Cresconium_, Book II. xxv. 30: "Ita mortui sunt, ut

neque super terras, neque in requie sanctorum sint."

[658] Migne suggests as an emendation, "quod Deus illi comes erat," as

in II. xxiii. 53, xxxvii. 87, etc.

[659] 1 Sam. xvii. 51.

[660] That of Bagai. See on _de Bapt._ I. v. 7.

[661] Ore latissimo acclamaverunt. The Louvain edition has "lætissimo,"

both here and _Contra Crescon._ IV. xli. 48.

[662] Num. xvi. 31-35.

[663] Ps. lxxii. 8.

[664] Ps. ii. 8.

[665] Qui talia facientes quamvis improbent. A comparison of the

explanation of this passage in _Contra Crescon._ III. xli. 45, shows

the probability of Migne's conjecture, "quamvis improbe," "who endure

the men that act in such a way, however monstrous their conduct may be."

[666] Nec in se agnoscunt. The reading of the Louvain edition gives

better sense, "Et in se agnoscunt," "and discover in themselves."

[667] Matt. xxiii. 34.

[668] Isa. lviii. 1.

[669] Ps. lxiii. 11.

[670] Ps. xiv. 5-7, from the LXX. only.

[671] Matt. vii. 15.

[672] Matt. vii. 16.

[673] "Obmutescatis" is the most probable conjecture of Migne for

"obtumescatis," which could only mean, "you should swell with

confusion."

[674] See below, II. xvi. 36, III. lvii. 69, lviii. 70; and _Contra

Cresconium_, III. xxix. 33, IV. lvi. 66.

[675] Gen. xxii. 18.

[676] Gal. iii. 16.

[677] That of Bagai.

[678] Veritatis fortissimis documentis Catholica expugnat; and so the

MSS. The earlier editors, apparently not understanding the omission of

"ecclesia," read "veritas."

[679] Mark iii. 23.

[680] See II. xviii. 40, 41.

[681] Ps. xiv. 6, from the LXX. only.

[682] Ps. lxxxiii. 16.

BOOK SECOND.[683]

IN WHICH AUGUSTINE REPLIES TO ALL THE SEVERAL STATEMENTS IN THE LETTER

OF PETILIANUS, AS THOUGH DISPUTING WITH AN ADVERSARY FACE TO FACE.

CHAP. I.--1. That we made a full and sufficient answer to the first

part of the letter of Petilianus, which was all that we had been able

to find, will be remembered by all who were able to read or hear what

we replied. But since the whole of it was afterwards found and copied

by our brethren, and sent to us with the view that we should answer

it as a whole, this task was one which our pen could not escape,--not

that he says anything new in it, to which answer has not been already

made in many ways and at various times; but still, on account of the

brethren of slower comprehension, who, when they read a matter in

any place, cannot always refer to everything that has been said upon

the same subject, I will comply with those who urge me by all means

to reply to every point, and that as though we were carrying on the

discussion face to face in the form of a dialogue. I will set down

the words of his epistle under his name, and I will give the answer

under my own name, as though it had all been taken down by reporters

while we were debating. And so there will be no one who can complain

either that I have passed anything over, or that they have been unable

to understand it for want of distinction between the parties to the

discussion; at the same time that the Donatists themselves, who are

unwilling to argue the question in our presence, as is shown by the

letters which they have circulated among their party, may thus not fail

to find the truth answering them point by point, just as though they

were discussing the matter with us face to face.

2. In the very beginning of the letter PETILIANUS said: "Petilianus,

a bishop, to his well-beloved brethren, fellow-priests, and deacons,

appointed ministers with us throughout our diocese in the gospel,

grace be to you and peace, from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus

Christ."

3. AUGUSTINE answered: I acknowledge the apostolic greeting. You see

who you are that employ it, but see from what source you have learned

what you say. For in these terms Paul salutes the Romans, and in

the same terms the Corinthians, the Galatians, the Ephesians, the

Colossians, the Philippians, the Thessalonians. What madness is it,

therefore, to be unwilling to share the salvation of peace with those

very Churches in whose epistles you learned its form of salutation?

* * * * *

CHAP. II.--4. PETILIANUS said: "Those who have polluted their souls

with a guilty laver, under the name of baptism, reproach us with

baptizing twice,--than whose obscenity, indeed, any kind of filth is

more cleanly, seeing that through a perversion of cleanliness they have

come to be made fouler by their washing."

5. AUGUSTINE answered: We are neither made fouler by our washing, nor

cleaner by yours. But when the water of baptism is given to any one in

the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, it is

neither ours nor yours, but His of whom it was said to John, "Upon whom

thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, the same is

He which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost."[684]

* * * * *

CHAP. III.--6. PETILIANUS said: "For what we look to is the conscience

of the giver, to cleanse that of the recipient."

7. AUGUSTINE answered: We therefore need have no anxiety about the

conscience of Christ. But if you assert any man to be the giver, be

he who he may, there will be no certainty about the cleansing of the

recipient, because there is no certainty about the conscience of the

giver.

* * * * *

CHAP. IV.--8. PETILIANUS said: "For he who receives faith from the

faithless, receives not faith but guilt."

9. AUGUSTINE answered: Christ is not faithless, from whom the

faithful man receives not guilt but faith. For he believeth on Him

that justifieth the ungodly, that his faith may be counted for

righteousness.[685]

* * * * *

CHAP. V.--10. PETILIANUS said: "For everything consists of an origin

and root; and if it have not something for a head, it is nothing: nor

does anything well receive second birth, unless it be born again of

good seed."

11. AUGUSTINE answered: Why will you put yourself forward in the room

of Christ, when you will not place yourself under Him? He is the

origin, and root, and head of him who is being born, and in Him we

feel no fear, as we must in any man, whoever he may be, lest he should

prove to be false and of abandoned character, and we should be found

to be sprung from an abandoned source, growing from an abandoned root,

united to an abandoned head. For what man can feel secure about a man,

when it is written, "Cursed be the man that trusteth in man?"[686] But

the seed of which we are born again is the word of God, that is, the

gospel. Whence the apostle says, "For in Christ Jesus I have begotten

you through the gospel."[687] And yet he allows even those to preach

the gospel who were preaching it not in purity, and rejoices in their

preaching;[688] because, although they were preaching it not in purity,

but seeking their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's,[689]

yet the gospel which they preached was pure. And the Lord had said

of certain of like character, "Whatsoever they bid you observe, that

observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do

not."[690] If, therefore, what is in itself pure is preached in purity,

then the preacher himself also, in that he is a partner with the word,

has his share in begetting the believer; but if he himself be not

regenerate, and yet what he preaches be pure, then the believer is born

not from the barrenness of the minister, but from the fruitfulness of

the word.

* * * * *

CHAP. VI.--12. PETILIANUS said: "This being the case, brethren, what

perversity must it be, that he who is guilty through his own sins

should make another free from guilt, when the Lord Jesus Christ says,

'Every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, but a corrupt tree bringeth

forth evil fruit: do men gather grapes of thorns?[691] And again: 'A

good man, out of the good treasure of the heart, bringeth forth good

things: and an evil man, out of the evil treasure, bringeth forth evil

things.'"[692]

13. AUGUSTINE answered: No man, even though he be not guilty through

his own sins, can make his neighbour free from sin, because he is not

God. Otherwise, if we were to expect that out of the innocence of the

baptizer should be produced the innocence of the baptized, then each

will be the more innocent in proportion as he may have found a more

innocent person by whom to be baptized; and will himself be the less

innocent in proportion as he by whom he is baptized is less innocent.

And if the man who baptizes happens to entertain hatred against another

man, this will also be imputed to him who is baptized. Why, therefore,

does the wretched man hasten to be baptized,--that his own sins may be

forgiven him, or that those of others may be reckoned against him? Is

he like a merchant ship, to discharge one burden, and to take on him

another? But by the good tree and its good fruit, and the corrupt tree

and its evil fruit, we are wont to understand men and their works, as

is consequently shown in those other words which you also quoted: "A

good man, out of the good treasure of his heart, bringeth forth good

things: and an evil man, out of the evil treasure, bringeth forth evil

things." But when a man preaches the word of God, or administers the

sacraments of God, he does not, if he is a bad man, preach or minister

out of his own treasure; but he will be counted among those of whom it

is said, "Whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do

not ye after their works:" for they bid you observe what is God's, but

their works are their own. For if it is as you say, that is, if the

fruit of those who baptize consist in the baptized persons themselves;

you declare a great woe against Africa, if a young Optatus has sprung

up for every one that Optatus baptized.

* * * * *

CHAP. VII.--14. PETILIANUS said: "And again, 'He who is baptized by

one that is dead, his washing profiteth him nothing.'[693] He did not

mean that the baptizer was a corpse, a lifeless body, the remains of

a man ready for burial, but one lacking the Spirit of God, who is

compared to a dead body, as He declares to a disciple in another place,

according to the witness of the gospel. For His disciple says, 'Lord,

suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him,

Follow me, and let the dead bury their dead.'[694] The father of the

disciple was not baptized. He declared him as a pagan to belong to the

company of pagans; unless he said this of the unbelieving, The dead

cannot bury the dead. He was dead, therefore, not as smitten by some

death, but as smitten even during life. For he who so lives as to be

doomed to eternal death is tortured by a death in life. To be baptized,

therefore, by the dead, is to have received not life but death. We

must therefore consider and declare how far the _traditor_ is to be

accounted dead while yet alive. He is dead who has not deserved to be

born again with a true baptism; he is likewise dead who, having been

born again with a true baptism, has become involved with a _traditor_.

Both are wanting in the life of baptism,--both he who never had it

at all, and he who had it and has lost it. For the Lord Jesus Christ

says, 'There shall come to that man seven spirits more wicked than the

former one, and the last state of that man shall be worse than the

first.'"[695]

15. AUGUSTINE answered: Seek with greater care to know in what sense

the words which you have quoted from Scripture in proof of your

position were really uttered, and how they should be understood. For

that all unrighteous persons are wont to be called dead in a mystical

sense is clear enough; but Christ, to whom true baptism belongs, which

you say is false because of the faults of men, is alive, sitting at

the right hand of the Father, and He will not die any more through

any infirmity of the flesh: death will no more have dominion over

Him.[696] And they who are baptized with His baptism are not baptized

by one who is dead. And if it so happen that certain ministers,

being deceitful workers, seeking their own, not the things which are

Jesus Christ's, proclaiming the gospel not in purity, and preaching

Christ of contention and envy, are to be called dead because of their

unrighteousness, yet the sacrament of the living God does not die even

in one that is dead. For that Simon was dead who was baptized by Philip

in Samaria, who wished to purchase the gift of God for money;[697] but

the baptism which he had lived in him still to work his punishment.

16. But how false the statement is which you make, that "both are

wanting in the life of baptism, both he who never had it at all, and he

who had it and has lost it," you may see from this, that in the case of

those who apostatize after having been baptized, and who return through

penitence, baptism is not restored to them, as it would be restored

if it were lost. In what manner, indeed, do your dead men baptize

according to your interpretation? Must we not reckon the drunken among

the dead (to say nothing of the rest, and to mention only what is well

known and of daily experience among all), seeing that the apostle

says of the widow, "But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she

liveth?"[698] In the next place, in that Council of yours, in which

you condemned Maximianus with his advisers or his ministers, have you

forgotten with what eloquence you said, "Even after the manner of the

Egyptians, the shores are full of the bodies of the dying, on whom the

weightier punishment falls in death itself, in that, after their life

has been wrung from them by the avenging waters, they have not found

so much as burial?" And yet you yourselves may see whether or no one

of them, Felicianus, has been brought to life again; yet he has with

him within the communion of your body those whom he baptized outside.

As therefore he is baptized by One that is alive who is clothed with

the baptism of the living Christ, so he is baptized by the dead who is

wrapped in the baptism of the dead Saturn, or any one like him; that

we may set forth in the meanwhile, with what brevity we may, in what

sense the words which you have quoted may be understood without any

cavilling on the part of any one of us. For, in the sense in which

they are received by you, you make no effort to explain them, but only

strive to entangle us together with yourselves.

* * * * *

CHAP. VIII.--17. PETILIANUS said: "We must consider, I say, and declare

how far the treacherous _traditor_ is to be accounted dead while yet in

life. Judas was an apostle when he betrayed Christ; and the same man

was already dead, having spiritually lost the office of an apostle,

being destined afterwards to die by hanging himself, as it is written:

'I have sinned,' says he, 'in that I have betrayed the innocent blood;

and he departed, and went and hanged himself'[699] The traitor perished

by the rope: he left the rope for others like himself, of whom the Lord

Christ cried aloud to the Father, 'Father, those that Thou gavest me

I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that

the Scripture might be fulfilled.'[700] For David of old had passed

this sentence on him who was to betray Christ to the unbelievers: 'Let

another take his office. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a

widow.'[701] See how mighty is the spirit of the prophets, that it was

able to see all future things as though they were present, so that a

traitor who was to be born hereafter should be condemned many centuries

before. Finally, that the said sentence should be completed, the holy

Matthias received the bishopric of that lost apostle. Let no one be

so dull, no one so faithless, as to dispute this: Matthias won for

himself a victory, not a wrong, in that he carried off the spoils of

the traitor from the victory of the Lord Christ. Why then, after this,

do you claim to yourself a bishopric as the heir of a worse traitor?

Judas betrayed Christ in the flesh to the unbelievers; you in the

spirit madly betrayed the holy gospel to the flames of sacrilege. Judas

betrayed the Lawgiver to the unbelievers; you, as it were, betraying

all that he had left, gave up the law of God to be destroyed by men.

Whilst, had you loved the law, like the youthful Maccabees, you would

have welcomed death for the sake of the laws of God (if indeed that can

be said to be death to men which makes them immortal because they died

for the Lord); for of those brethren we learn that one replied to the

sacrilegious tyrant with these words of faith: 'Thou like a fury takest

us out of this present life; but the King of the world (who reigns for

ever, and of His kingdom there shall be no end) shall raise us up who

have died for His laws, unto everlasting life.'[702] If you were to

burn with fire the testament of a dead man, would you not be punished

as the falsifier of a will? What therefore is likely to become of you

who have burned the most holy law of our God and Judge? Judas repented

of his deed even in death; you not only do not repent, but stand forth

as a persecutor and butcher of us who keep the law, whilst you are the

most wicked of _traditors_."

18. AUGUSTINE answered: See what a difference there is between your

calumnious words and our truthful assertions. Listen for a little

while. See how you have exaggerated the sin of delivering up the

sacred books, comparing us in most odious terms, like some sophistical

inventor of charges, with the traitor Judas. But when I shall have

answered you on this point with the utmost brevity,--I did not do what

you assert; I did not deliver up the sacred books; your charge is

false; you will never be able to prove it,--will not all that smoke of

mighty words presently vanish away? Or will you perchance endeavour

to prove the truth of what you say? This, then, you should do first;

and then you might rise against us, as against men who were already

convicted, with whatever mass of invective you might choose. Here is

one absurdity: behold again a second.

19. You yourself, when speaking of the foretelling of the condemnation

of Judas, used these expressions: "See how mighty is the spirit of the

prophets, that it was able to see all future things as though they

were present, so that a traitor who was to be born hereafter should be

condemned many centuries before;" and yet you did not see that in the

same sure prophecy, and certain and unshaken truth, in which it was

foretold that one of the disciples should hereafter betray the Christ,

it was also foretold that the whole world should hereafter believe

in Christ. Why did you pay attention in the prophecy to the man who

betrayed Christ, and in the same place give no heed to the world for

which Christ was betrayed? Who betrayed Christ? Judas. To whom did he

betray Him? To the Jews. What did the Jews do to Him? "They pierced my

hands and my feet," says the Psalmist. "I may tell all my bones: they

look and stare upon me. They part my garments among them, and cast

lots upon my vesture."[703] Of what importance, then, that is which is

bought at such a price, I would have you read a little later in the

psalm itself: "All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto

the Lord; and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before

Thee. For the kingdom is the Lord's; and He is the governor among the

nations."[704] But who is able to suffice for the quotation of all the

other innumerable prophetic passages which bear witness to the world

that is destined to believe? Yet you quote a prophecy because you see

in it the man who sold Christ: you do not see in it the possession

which Christ bought by being sold. Here is the second absurdity: behold

again the third.

20. Among the many other expressions in your invective, you said: "If

you were to burn with fire the testament of a dead man, would you

not be punished as the falsifier of a will? What therefore is likely

to become of you who have burned the most holy law of our God and

Judge?" In these words you have paid no attention to what certainly

ought to have moved you, to the question of how it might be that we

should burn the testament, and yet stand fast in the inheritance which

was described in that testament; but it is marvellous that you have

preserved the testament and lost the inheritance. Is it not written

in that testament, "Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen

for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy

possession?"[705] Take part in this inheritance, and you may bring what

charges you will against me about the testament. For what madness is

it, that while you shrank from committing the testament to the flames,

you should yet strive against the words of the testator! We, on the

other hand, though we hold in our hands the records of the Church

and of the State, in which we read that those who ordained a rival

bishop[706] in opposition to Cæcilianus were rather the betrayers of

the sacred books, yet do not on this account insult you, or pursue

you with invectives, or mourn over the ashes of the sacred pages in

your hands, or contrast the burning torments of the Maccabees with the

sacrilege of your fear, saying, "You should deliver your own limbs to

the flames rather than the utterances of God." For we are unwilling

to be so absurd as to excite an empty uproar against you on account

of the deeds of others, which you either know nothing of, or else

repudiate. But in that we see you separated from the communion of the

whole world (a sin both of the greatest magnitude, and manifest to all

mankind, and common to you all), if I were desirous of exaggerating,

I should find time failing me sooner than words. And if you should

seek to defend yourself on this charge, it could only be by bringing

accusations against the whole world, of such a kind that, if they

could be maintained, you would simply be furnishing matter for further

accusation against yourself; if they could not be maintained, there

is in them no defence for you. Why therefore do you puff yourself up

against me about the betrayal of the sacred books, which concerns

neither you nor me if we abide by the agreement not to charge each

other with the sins of other men, and which, if that agreement does not

stand, affects you rather than me? And yet, even without any violation

of that agreement, I think I may say with perfect justice that he

should be deemed a partner with him who delivered up Christ who has not

delivered himself up to Christ in company with the whole world. "Then,"

says the apostle, "then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to

the promise."[707] And again he says, "Heirs of God, and joint-heirs

with Christ."[708] And the same apostle shows that the seed of Abraham

belongs to all nations, from the promise which was given to Abraham,

"In thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed."[709]

Wherefore I consider that I am only making a fair demand in asking

that we should for a moment consider the testament of God, which has

already long been opened, and that we should consider every one to be

himself an heir of the traitor whom we do not find to be a joint-heir

with Him whom he betrayed; that every one should belong to him who

sold Christ who denies that Christ has bought the whole world. For

when He showed Himself after His resurrection to His disciples, and

gave His limbs to those who doubted, that they should handle them, He

says this to them, "For thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ

to suffer, and to rise again from the dead the third day: and that

repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name among

all nations, beginning at Jerusalem."[710] See from what an inheritance

you estrange yourselves! see what an Heir you resist! Can it really

be that a man would spare Christ if He were walking here on earth who

speaks against Him while He sits in heaven? Do you not yet understand

that whatever you allege against us you allege against His words? A

Christian world is promised and believed in: the promise is fulfilled,

and it is denied. Consider, I entreat of you, what you ought to suffer

for such impiety. And yet, if I know not what you have suffered,--if I

have not seen it, have not wrought it,--then do you to-day, who do not

suffer the violence of my persecution, render to me an account of your

separation. But you are likely to say over and over again what, unless

you prove it, can affect no one, and if you prove it, has no bearing

upon me.

* * * * *

CHAP. IX.--21. PETILIANUS said: "Hemmed in, therefore, by these

offences, you cannot be a true bishop."

22. AUGUSTINE answered: By what offences? What have you shown? What

have you proved? And if you have proved charges on the part of I know

not whom, what has that to do with the seed of Abraham, in which all

the nations of the earth are blessed?

* * * * *

CHAP. X.--23. PETILIANUS said: "Did the apostles persecute any one? or

did Christ betray any one?"

24. AUGUSTINE answered: I might indeed say that Satan himself was worse

than all wicked men; and yet the apostle delivered a man over to him

for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit might be saved in

the day of the Lord Jesus.[711] And in the same way he delivered over

others, of whom he says, "Whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they

may learn not to blaspheme."[712] And the Lord Christ drove out the

impious merchants from the temple with scourges; in which connection we

also find advanced the testimony of Scripture, where it says, "The zeal

of Thine house hath eaten me up."[713] So that we do find the apostle

delivering over to condemnation, and Christ a persecutor. All this I

might say, and put you into no small heat and perturbation, so that

you would be compelled to inquire, not into the complaints of those

who suffer, but into the intention of those who cause the suffering.

But do not trouble yourself about this; I do not say this. But I do

say that it has nothing to do with the seed of Abraham, which is in

all nations, if anything has been done to you which ought not to have

been done, perhaps by the chaff among the harvest of the Lord, which in

spite of this is found among all nations. Do you therefore render an

account of your separation. But first, consider what kind of men you

have among you, with whom you would not wish to be reproached; and see

how unjustly you act, when you cast in our teeth the acts of other men,

even if you proved what you assert. Therefore it will be found that

there is no ground for your separation.

* * * * *

CHAP. XI.--25. PETILIANUS said: "Yet some will be found to say, We are

not the sons of a _traditor_. Any one is the son of that man whose

deeds he imitates. For those are most assuredly sons, and at the same

time bear a strong resemblance to their parents, who are born in the

likeness of their parents, not only as being of their flesh and blood,

but in respect of their characters and deeds."

26. AUGUSTINE answered: A little while ago you were saying nothing

contrary to us, now you even begin to say something in our favour. For

this proposition of yours binds you to as much as this, that if you

shall fail to-day to convict us, with whom you are arguing, of being

_traditors_ and murderers, and anything else with which you charge

us, you will then be wholly powerless to hurt us by any charge of

the kind which you may prove against those who have gone before us.

For we cannot be the sons of those to whose deeds our actions bear

no resemblance. And see to what you have committed yourself. If you

should be so successful as to convict some man, even of our own times,

and living with us, of any guilt of the kind, that is in no way to the

prejudice of all the nations of the earth who are blessed in the seed

of Abraham, by separating yourself from whom you are found to be guilty

of sacrilege. Accordingly, unless (as is altogether impossible) you

are acquainted with all men that exist throughout the world, and have

not only made yourself familiar with all their characters and deeds,

but have also proved that they are as bad as you describe, you have no

ground for reproaching all the world, which is among the saints, with

parentage of I know not what description, to whom you prove that they

are like. Nor will it help you at all, even if you are able to show

that those who are not of the same character take the holy sacraments

in common with those who are. In the first place, because you ought

yourselves to look at those with whom you celebrate those sacraments,

to whom you give them, from whom you receive them, and whom you would

be unwilling to have cast up against you as a reproach. And again, if

all those are the sons of Judas, who was the devil among the apostles,

who imitate his deeds, why do we not call those the sons of the

apostles who make such men partakers, not in their own deeds, but in

the sacraments of the Lord, as the apostles partook of the supper of

the Lord in company with that traitor? and in this way they are very

different from you, who cast in the teeth of men who are striving for

the preservation of unity the very thing that you do to the rending

asunder of unity.

* * * * *

CHAP. XII.--27. PETILIANUS said: "The Lord Jesus said to the Jews

concerning Himself, 'If I do not the works of my Father, believe me

not.'"[714]

28. AUGUSTINE answered: I have already answered above, This is both

true, and makes for us against you.

* * * * *

CHAP. XIII.--29. PETILIANUS said: "Over and over again He reproaches

the false speakers and liars in such terms as these: 'Ye are the

children of the devil, for he also was a slanderer from the beginning,

and abode not in the truth.'"

30. AUGUSTINE answered: We are not wont to say, "He was a slanderer,"

but "He was a murderer."[715] But we ask how it was that the devil was

a murderer from the beginning; and we find that he slew the first man,

not by drawing a sword, nor by applying to him any bodily violence,

but by persuading him to sin, and thus driving him from the happiness

of Paradise. What then was Paradise is now represented by the Church.

Therefore those are the sons of the devil who slay men by withdrawing

them from the Church. But as by the words of God we know what was the

situation of Paradise, so now by the words of Christ we have learned

where the Church is to be found: "Throughout all nations," He says,

"beginning at Jerusalem." Whosoever, therefore, separates a man from

that complete whole to place him in any single part, is proved to

be a son of the devil and a murderer. But see, further, what is the

application of the expression which you yourself employed in saying

of the devil, "He was a slanderer, and abode not in the truth." For

you bring an accusation against the whole world on account of the sins

of others, though even those others themselves you were more able to

accuse than to convict; and you abode not in the truth of Christ.

For He says that the Church is "throughout all nations, beginning at

Jerusalem;" but ye say that it is in the party of Donatus.

* * * * *

CHAP. XIV.--31. PETILIANUS said: "In the third place, also, He calls

the madness of persecutors in like manner by this name, 'Ye generation

of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Wherefore, behold,

I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes; and some of them

ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in their

synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: that upon you may

come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of

righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, son of Barachias, whom ye

slew between the temple and the altar.'[716] Are they then really the

sons of vipers according to the flesh, and not rather serpents in mind,

and three-tongued malice, and deadliness of touch, and burning with the

spirit of poison? They have truly become vipers, who by their bites

have vomited forth death against the innocent people."

32. AUGUSTINE answered: If I were to say that this is said of men of

character like unto yourselves, you would reply, "Prove it." What

then, have you proved it? Or if you think that it is proved by the

mere fact of its being uttered, there is no need to repeat the same

words. Pronounce the same judgment against yourselves as coming from

us to you. See you not that I too have proved it, if this amounts to

proof? And yet I would have you learn what is really meant by proof.

For indeed I do not even seek for evidence from without to enable me to

prove you vipers. For be well assured that this very fact marks in you

the nature of vipers, that you have not in your mouth the foundation

of truth, but the poison of slanderous abuse, as it is written, "The

poison of asps is under their lips."[717] And because this might be

said indiscriminately by any one against any one, as though it were

asked, Under whose lips? he immediately adds, "Their mouth is full of

cursing and bitterness."[718] When, therefore, you say such things as

this against men dispersed throughout the whole world, of whom you know

nothing whatsoever, and many of whom have never heard the name either

of Cæcilianus or of Donatus, and when you do not hear them answering

amid silence. Nothing of what you say has reference to us; we never saw

it; we never did it; we are totally at a loss to understand what you

are saying,--seeing that you desire nothing else than to say what you

are entirely powerless to prove, how can you help allowing that your

mouth is full of cursing and bitterness? See, therefore, whether you

can possibly show that you are not vipers,[719] unless you show that

all Christians throughout all nations of the world are _traditors_,

and murderers, and anything but Christians. Nay, in very truth, even

though you should be able to know and set before us the lives and deeds

of every individual man throughout the world, yet before you can do

that, seeing that you act as you do without any consideration, your

mouth is that of a viper, your mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.

Show to us now, if you can, what prophet, what wise man, what scribe we

have slain, or crucified, or scourged in our synagogues. Look how much

labour you have expended without in any way being able to prove that

Donatus and Marculus were prophets, or wise men, or scribes, because,

in fact, they were nothing of the sort. But even if you could prove as

much as this, what progress would you have made towards proving that

they had been killed by us, when even we ourselves did not so much as

know them? and how much less the whole world, whom you calumniate with

poisonous mouth?[720] Or whence will you be able to prove that we have

a spirit like that of those who murdered them, when you actually cannot

show that they were murdered by any one at all? Look carefully to all

these points, see whether you can prove any single one of them either

about the whole world, or to the satisfaction of the whole world,--in

your persevering calumnies against which you show that the charges are

true in you, which you falsely propagate against the world.

33. Further, even if we should desire to prove you to be slayers of the

prophets, it would be too long a task to collect the evidence through

all the several instances of the slaughter which your infuriated

leaders of the Circumcelliones, and the actual crowds of men inflamed

by wine and madness, not only have committed since the beginning of

your schism, but even continue to commit at the present time. To take

the case nearest at hand. Let the divine utterances be produced, which

are commonly in the hands of both of us. Let us consider those to be

murderers of the prophets whom we find contradicting the words of the

prophets. What more learned definition could be given? What could admit

of speedier proof? You would be acting less cruelly in piercing the

bodies of the prophets with a sword, than in endeavouring to destroy

the words of the prophets with your tongue. The prophet says, "All

the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord."[721]

Behold and see how this is being done, how it is being fulfilled. But

you not only close your ears in disbelief against what is said, but

you even thrust out your tongues in madness to speak against what is

already being done. Abraham heard the promise, "In thy seed shall

all the nations of the earth be blessed;"[722] and "he believed, and

it was counted unto him for righteousness."[723] You see the fact

accomplished, and you cry out against it; and you will not that it

should be counted unto you for unrighteousness, as it fairly would be

counted, even if your refusal to believe was not on the accomplishment,

but only on the utterance of the prophecy. Nay, not only are you not

willing that it should be counted unto you for unrighteousness, but

even what you suffer as the punishment of this impiety you would fain

have counted unto you for righteousness. Or if your conduct is not a

persecution of the prophets, because your instrument is not the sword

but the tongue, what was the reason of its being said under divine

inspiration, "The sons of men, whose teeth are spears and arrows,

and their tongue a sharp sword?"[724] But what time would suffice me

to collect from all the prophets all the testimonies to the Church

dispersed throughout the world, all of which you endeavour to destroy

and render nought by contradicting them? But you are caught; for

"their sound is gone out into all lands, and their words to the end

of the world."[725] I will, however, advance this one saying from the

mouth of the Lord, who is the Witness of witnesses: "All things must

be fulfilled," He says, "which were written in the law of Moses, and

in the prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning me." And what these

were let us hear from Himself: "Then opened He their understanding,

that they might understand the Scriptures, and said unto them, Thus

it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise

from the dead the third day: and that repentance and remission of

sins should be preached in His name among all nations, beginning at

Jerusalem."[726] See what it is that is written in the law of Moses,

and in the prophets, and in the Psalms, concerning the Lord. See what

the Lord Himself revealed about Himself and about the Church, making

Himself manifest, uttering promises about the Church. But for you,

see that you resist such manifest proofs as these, and as you cannot

destroy them, endeavour to pervert them, what would you do, if you

were to come across the bodies of the prophets, when you rage so madly

against the utterances of the prophets, as not even to hearken to the

Lord when He is fulfilling, and making manifest, and expounding the

prophets? For do you not, to the utmost of your power, strive to slay

the Lord Himself, since even to Himself you will not yield?

* * * * *

CHAP. XV.--34. PETILIANUS said: "David also spoke of you as persecutors

in the following terms: 'Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their

tongues have they deceived; the poison of asps is under their lips.

Their mouth is full of cursing and bitterness; their feet are swift

to shed blood. Destruction and unhappiness is in their ways, and the

way of peace have they not known: there is no fear of God before their

eyes. Have all the workers of wickedness no knowledge, who eat up my

people as they eat bread?'"[727]

35. AUGUSTINE answered: Their throat is an open sepulchre, whence

they breathe out death by lies. For "the mouth that belieth slayeth

the soul."[728] But if nothing is more true than that which Christ

said, that His Church should be throughout all nations, beginning

at Jerusalem, then there is nothing more false than that which you

say, that it is in the party of Donatus. But the tongues which have

deceived are the tongues of those who, whilst they are acquainted with

their own deeds, not only say that they are just men, but that they

are justifiers of men, which is said of One only "that justifieth the

ungodly,"[729] and that because "He is just and the justifier."[730]

As regards the poison of asps, and the mouth full of cursing and

bitterness, we have said enough already. But you have yourselves said

that the followers of Maximianus had feet swift to shed blood, as is

testified by the sentence of your general Council, so often quoted in

the records of the proconsular province and of the state. But they,

so far as we hear, never killed any one in the body. You evidently,

therefore, understood that the blood of the soul was shed in spiritual

murder by the sword of schism, which you condemned in Maximianus. See

then if your feet are not swift to shed blood, when you cut off men

from the unity of the whole world, if you were right in saying it of

the followers of Maximianus, because they cut off some from the party

of Donatus. Are we again without the knowledge of the way of peace, who

study to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace? and yet

do you possess that knowledge, who resist the discourse which Christ

held with His disciples after His resurrection, of so peaceful a nature

that He began it with the greeting, "Peace be unto you;"[731] and that

so strenuously that you are proved to be saying nothing less to Him

than this, "What Thou saidst of the unity of all nations is false;

what we say of the offence of all nations is true?" Who would say such

things as this if they had the fear of God before their eyes? See,

therefore, if in daily saying things like this you are not trying to

destroy the people of God dispersed throughout the world, eating them

up as it were bread.

* * * * *

CHAP. XVI.--36. PETILIANUS said: "The Lord Christ also warns us,

saying, 'Beware of false prophets, which come unto you in sheep's

clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves; and ye shall know them

by their fruits.'"[732]

37. AUGUSTINE answered: If I were to inquire of you by what fruits you

know us to be ravening wolves, you are sure to answer by charging us

with the sins of other men, and these such as were never proved against

those who are said to have been guilty of them. But if you should ask

of me by what fruits we know you rather to be ravening wolves, I bring

against you the charge of schism, which you will deny, but which I

will straightway go on to prove; for, as a matter of fact, you do not

communicate with all the nations of the earth, nor with those Churches

which were founded by the labour of the apostles. Hereupon you will

say, "I do not communicate with _traditors_ and murderers." The seed

of Abraham answers you, "These are those charges which you made, which

are either not true, or have no reference to me." But these I set aside

for the present; do you meanwhile show me the Church. Now that voice

will sound in my ears which the Lord showed was to be avoided in the

false prophets who made a show of their several parties, and strove to

estrange men from the Catholic Church, "Lo, here is Christ, or there."

But do you think that the true sheep of Christ are so utterly destitute

of sense, who are told, "Believe it not,"[733] that they will hearken

to the wolf when he says, "Lo, here is Christ," and will not hearken

to the Shepherd when He says, "Throughout all nations, beginning at

Jerusalem?"

* * * * *

CHAP. XVII.--38. PETILIANUS said: "Thus, thus, thou wicked persecutor,

under whatsoever cloak of righteousness thou hast concealed thyself,

under whatsoever name of peace thou wagest war with kisses, under

whatsoever title of unity thou endeavourest to ensnare the race of

men,--thou, who up to this time art cheating and deceiving, thou art

the true son of the devil, showing thy parentage by thy character."

39. AUGUSTINE answered: Consider in reply that these things have been

said by us against you; and that you may know to which of us they are

more appropriate, call to mind what I have said before.

* * * * *

CHAP. XVIII.--40. PETILIANUS said: "Nor is it, after all, so strange

that you assume to yourself the name of bishop without authority.

This is the true custom of the devil, to choose in preference a mode

of deceiving by which he usurps to himself a word of holy meaning,

as the apostle declares to us: 'And no marvel,' he says; 'for Satan

himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no

great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of

righteousness.'[734] Nor is it therefore a marvel if you falsely call

yourself a bishop. For even those fallen angels, lovers of the maidens

of the world, who were corrupted by the corruption of their flesh,

though, from having stripped themselves of divine excellence, they have

ceased to be angels, yet retain the name of angels, and always esteem

themselves as angels, though, being released from the service of God,

they have passed from the likeness of their character into the army

of the devil, as the great God declares, 'My spirit shall not always

strive with man, for that he also is flesh.'[735] To those guilty ones

and to you the Lord Christ will say, 'Depart from me, ye cursed ones,

into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.'[736] If

there were no evil angels, the devil would have no angels; of whom the

apostle says, that in the judgment of the resurrection they shall be

condemned by the saints: 'Know ye not,' says he, 'that we shall judge

angels?'[737] If they were true angels, men would not have authority

to judge the angels of God. So too those sixty apostles, who, when the

twelve were left alone with the Lord Christ, departed in apostasy from

the faith, are so far yet considered among wretched men to be apostles,

that from them Manichæus and the rest entangle many souls in many

devilish sects which they destroyed[738] that they might take them in

their snares. For indeed the fallen Manichæus, if fallen he was, is not

to be reckoned among those sixty, if it be that we can find his name

as an apostle among the twelve, or if he was ordained by the voice of

Christ when Matthias was elected into the place of the traitor Judas,

or another thirteenth like Paul, who calls himself the last[739] of the

apostles, expressly that any one who was later than himself might not

be held to be an apostle. For these are his words: 'For I am the last

of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I

persecuted the Church of God.'[740] And do not flatter yourselves in

this: he was a Jew that had done this. You too, as Gentiles, may work

destruction upon us. For you carry on war without licence, against whom

we may not fight in turn. For you desire to live when you have murdered

us; but our victory is either to escape or to be slain."

41. AUGUSTINE answered: See how you have quoted the testimony of holy

Scripture, or how you have understood it, when it has no bearing at all

upon the present point at issue. For all that you have brought forward

was simply said to prove that there are false bishops, just as there

are false angels and false apostles. Now we too know quite well that

there are false angels and false apostles, and, as the true apostle

says, false brethren also;[741] but, seeing that charges such as yours

may be brought by either side against the other, what is required

is a certain degree of proof, and not mere empty words. But if you

would see to which of us the charge of falseness more truly applies,

recall to mind what we have said before, and you will see it there set

forth, that we may not become tedious to our readers by repeating the

same thing over and over again. And yet how is the Church dispersed

throughout the world affected either by what you may have found to say

about its chaff, which is mixed with it throughout the whole world; or

by what you said of Manichæus and the other devilish sects? For if the

wheat is not affected by anything which is said even about the chaff

which is still mingled with it, how much less are the members of Christ

dispersed throughout the whole world affected by monstrosities[742]

which have been so long and so openly separated from it?[743]

* * * * *

CHAP. XIX.--42. PETILIANUS said: "The Lord Jesus Christ commands us,

saying, 'When they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another;

and if they persecute you in that, flee yet into a third; for verily I

say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till

the Son of man be come.'[744] If He gives us this warning in the case

of Jews and pagans, you who call yourself a Christian ought not to

imitate the dreadful deeds of the Gentiles. Or do you serve God in such

wise that we should be murdered at your hands? You do err, you do err,

if you are wretched enough to entertain such a belief as this. For God

does not have butchers for His priests."

43. AUGUSTINE answered: To flee from one state to another from the

face of persecution has not been enjoined as precept or permission on

heretics or schismatics, such as you are; but it was enjoined on the

preachers of the gospel, whom you resist. And this we may easily prove

in this wise: you are now in your own cities, and no man persecutes

you. You must therefore come forth, and give an account of your

separation. For it cannot be maintained that, as the weakness of the

flesh is excused when it yields before the violence of persecution,

so truth also ought to yield to falsehood. Furthermore, if you are

suffering persecution, why do you not retire from the cities in which

you are, that you may fulfil the instructions which you quote out of

the gospel? But if you are not suffering persecution, why are you

unwilling to reply to us? Or if the fact be that you are afraid lest,

when you should have made reply, you then should suffer persecution,

in that case how are you following the example of those preachers to

whom it was said, "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of

wolves?" To whom it was also further said, "Fear not them which kill

the body, but are not able to kill the soul."[745] And how do you

escape the charge of acting contrary to the injunction of the Apostle

Peter, who says, "Be ready always to give an answer to every man that

asketh you a reason of the faith and hope that is in you?"[746] And,

lastly, wherefore are you ever eager to annoy the Catholic Churches

by the most violent disturbances, whenever it is in your power, as is

proved by innumerable instances of simple fact? Wherefore in such a

case did you not hearken to the voice of the Lord, when He says, "But

I say unto you, that ye resist not evil?"[747] Or, allowing that it

is possible that in some cases it should be right for violent men to

be resisted by bodily force, and that it does not violate the precept

which we receive from the Lord, "But I say unto you, that ye resist

not evil," why may it not also be that a pious man should eject an

impious man, or a just man him that is unjust, in the exercise of duly

and lawfully constituted authority, from seats which are unlawfully

usurped, or retained to the despite of God? For you would not say that

the false prophets suffered persecution at the hands of Elijah, in

the same sense that Elijah suffered persecution from the wickedest of

kings?[748] Or that because the Lord was scourged by His persecutors,

therefore those whom He Himself drove out of the temple with scourges

are to be put in comparison with His sufferings? It remains, therefore,

that we should acknowledge that there is no other question requiring

solution, except whether you have been pious or impious in separating

yourselves from the communion of the whole world. For if it shall

be found that you have acted impiously, you would not be surprised

if there should be no lack of ministers of God by whom you might be

scourged, seeing that you suffer persecution not from us, but as it is

written, from their own abominations.[749]

* * * * *

CHAP. XX.--44. PETILIANUS said: "The Lord Christ cries again from

heaven to Paul, 'Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? It is hard for

thee to kick against the pricks.'[750] He was then called Saul, that he

might afterwards receive his true name in baptism. But for you it is

not hard so often to persecute Christ in the persons of His priests,

though the Lord Himself cries out, 'Touch not mine anointed.'[751]

Reckon up all the deaths of the saints, and so often have you murdered

Christ, who lives in each of them.[752] Lastly, if you are not guilty

of sacrilege, then a saint cannot be a murderer."

45. AUGUSTINE answered: Defend yourselves from the charge of the

persecution which those men suffered at the hands of your party who

separated themselves from you with the followers of Maximianus, and

therein you will find our defence. For if you say that you committed

no such deeds, we simply read to you the records of the proconsular

province and the state. If you say that you were right in persecuting

them, why are you unwilling to suffer the like yourselves? If you say,

"But we caused no schism," then let this be inquired into, and, till

it is decided whether it be so or not, let no one make accusation

against persecutors. If you say that even schismatics ought not to have

suffered persecution, I ask whether it is also the case that they ought

not to have been driven out of the basilicas, in which they lay snares

for the leading astray of the weak, even though it were done by duly

constituted authorities? If you say that this also should not have been

done, first restore the basilicas to the followers of Maximianus, and

then discuss the point with us. If you say that it was right, then see

what they ought to suffer at the hands of duly constituted authority,

who, in resisting it, "resist the ordinance of God." Wherefore the

apostle expressly says, "For he beareth not the sword in vain: for he

is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath on him that doeth

evil."[753] But even if this had been discovered after the truth had

been searched out with all diligence, that not even after public trial

ought schismatics to undergo any punishment, or be driven from the

positions which they have occupied, for their treachery and deceit; and

if you should say that you are vexed that the followers of Maximianus

should have suffered such conduct at the hands of some of you,--why

does not the wheat of the Lord cry out with the more freedom from the

whole field of the Lord, that is, from the world, and say, Neither

are we at all affected by what the tares and the chaff amongst us

do, seeing that it is contrary to our wish? If you confess that it

is sufficient to clear you of responsibility, that all the evil that

is done by men of your party is done in opposition to your wishes,

why then have you separated yourselves? For if your reason for not

separating from the unrighteous among the party of Donatus is that

each man bears his own burden, why have you separated yourselves from

those throughout the world whom you think, or profess to think, to be

unrighteous? Is it that you might all share equally in bearing the

burden of schism?

46. And when we ask of you which of your party you can prove to have

been slain by us, I indeed can remember no law issued by the emperors

to the effect that you should be put to death. Those indeed whose

deaths you quote most frequently to bring us into odium, Marculus and

Donatus, present a great question,--whether they threw themselves

down a precipice, as your teaching does not hesitate to encourage by

examples of daily occurrence, or whether they were thrown down by the

true command of some authority. For if it is a thing incredible that

the leaders of the Circumcelliones should have wrought upon themselves

a death in accordance with their custom, how much more incredible it

is that the Roman authorities should have been able to condemn them

to a punishment at variance with custom! Accordingly, in considering

this matter, which you think excessive in its hatefulness, supposing

what you say is true, what is there in it which bears upon the Lord's

wheat? Let the chaff which flew away outside accuse the chaff which yet

remained within; for it is not possible that it should all be separated

till the winnowing at the last day. But if what you say is false,

what wonder is it if, when the chaff is carried away as it were by a

light blast of dissension, it even attacks the wheat of the Lord with

false accusations? Wherefore, on the consideration of all such odious

accusations, the wheat of Christ, which is ordered to grow together

with the tares throughout the field, that is, throughout the whole

world, makes this answer to you with a free and fearless voice: If you

cannot prove what you say, it has no application to any one; and if you

prove it, it yet does not apply to me. The result of which is, that

whosoever has separated himself from the unity of the wheat on account

of the offences chargeable against the tares, or against the chaff, is

unable to defend himself from the charge of murder which is involved

in the mere offence of dissension and schism, as the Scripture says,

"Whoso hateth his brother is a murderer."[754]

* * * * *

CHAP. XXI.--47. PETILIANUS said: "Accordingly, as we have said, the

Lord Christ cried, 'Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? It is hard for

thee to kick against the pricks. And he said, Who art Thou, Lord? And

the Lord said, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. And he,

trembling and astonished, said, Lord, what wilt Thou have me to do? And

the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be

told thee what thou must do.' And so presently it goes on, 'But Saul

arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man.'

See here how blindness, coming in punishment of madness, obscures the

light in the eyes of the persecutor, not to be again expelled except

by baptism! Let us see, therefore, what he did in the city. 'Ananias,'

it is said, 'entered into the house to Saul, and putting his hands

on him, said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto

thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest

receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. And immediately

there fell from his eyes as it had been scales; and he received sight

forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.'[755] Seeing therefore that

Paul, being freed by baptism from the offence of persecution, received

again his eyesight freed from guilt, why will not you, a persecutor and

_traditor_, blinded by false baptism, be baptized by those whom you

persecute?"

48. AUGUSTINE answered: You do not prove that I, whom you wish to

baptize afresh, am either a persecutor or a _traditor_. And if you

prove this charge against any one, yet the persecutor and _traditor_

is not to be baptized afresh, if he has been baptized already with

the baptism of Christ. For the reason why it was necessary that Paul

should be baptized was that he had never been washed in any baptism

of the kind. Therefore what you have chosen to insert about Paul has

no point of resemblance with the case which you are arguing with us.

But if you had not inserted this, you would have found no place for

your childish declamation, "See how blindness comes in punishment of

madness, not to be again expelled except by baptism!" For with how much

more force might one exclaim against you, See how blindness comes in

punishment of madness, which, finding its similitude in Simon, not in

Paul, is not expelled from you even when you have received baptism?

For if persecutors ought to be baptized by those whom they persecute,

then let Primianus be baptized by the followers of Maximianus, whom he

persecuted with the utmost eagerness.

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CHAP. XXII.--49. PETILIANUS said: "It may be urged that Christ said

to His apostles, as you are constantly quoting against us, 'He that

is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every

whit.' Now if you discuss those words in all their fulness, you are

bound by what immediately follows. For this is what He said, in His

very words: 'He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but

is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all. For He knew who

should betray Him; therefore said He, Ye are not all clean.'[756]

Whosoever, therefore, has incurred the guilt of treason, has forfeited,

like you, his baptism. Again, after that the betrayer of Christ had

himself been condemned, He thus more fully confirmed His words to the

eleven apostles: 'Now are ye clean through the word which I have spoken

unto you. Abide in me, and I in you.'[757] And again He said to these

same eleven, 'Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you.'[758]

Seeing, then, that these things were said to the eleven apostles, when

the traitor, as we have seen, had been condemned, you likewise, being

_traditors_, are similarly without both peace and baptism."

50. AUGUSTINE answered: If therefore every _traditor_ has forfeited his

baptism, it will follow that every one who, having been baptized by

you, has afterwards become a _traditor_, ought to be baptized afresh.

And if you do not do this, you yourselves sufficiently prove the

falseness of the saying, "Whosoever therefore has incurred the guilt of

treason, has forfeited, like you, his baptism." For if he has forfeited

it, let him return and receive it again; but if he returns and does

not receive it, it is clear that he had not forfeited it. Again, if

the reason why it was said to the apostles, "Now are ye clean," and

"My peace I give unto you," was that the traitor had already left

the room, then was not that supper of so great a sacrament clean and

able to give peace, which He distributed to all before his going out?

And if you venture to say this with your eyes closed against the

truth, what can we do save exclaim the more, See how blindness comes

in punishment of the madness of those who wish to be, as the apostle

says, "teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say, nor

whereof they affirm?"[759] And yet, unless blindness came in the way of

their pertinacity, it was not a very difficult matter that you should

understand and see that the Lord did not say in the presence of Judas,

Ye are not yet clean, but "Now are ye clean." He added, however, "But

not all," because there was one there who was not clean; yet if he

had been polluting the others by his presence, it would not have been

declared to them, "Now are ye clean," but, as I said before, Ye are

not yet clean. But, after Judas had gone out, He said to them, "Now

are ye clean," and did not add the words, But not all, because he had

now departed in whose presence indeed, as had been said to them, they

were already clean, but not all, because there was one there unclean.

Wherefore in these words the Lord rather declared that in the one

company of men receiving the same sacraments, the uncleanness of some

members cannot hurt the clean. Certainly, if you think that there are

among us men like Judas, you might apply to us the words, "Ye are

clean, but not all." But this is not what you say; but you say that

because of the presence of some who are unclean, therefore we are all

unclean. This the Lord did not say to the disciples in the presence of

Judas, and therefore whoever says this has not learned from the good

Master what He says.

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