Mr. JENNER. Excuse me. Have we now accounted from the time you got up
Saturday morning until the time you went to bed that evening?
Mr. WEISSMAN. I don't recall. Bill and I might have gone out for a
hamburger a couple of blocks away. We didn't go anywhere near downtown.
We might have gone to Larrie's apartment that night. I am not sure.
Mr. JENNER. The 22d--we picked you up in your car with Mr. Burley
around 12:30. Now, what happened that morning?
Mr. WEISSMAN. That morning?
Mr. JENNER. Yes--the 22d. Where were you the morning of the 22d, up to
12:30 o'clock in the afternoon?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Let's see. I left the apartment at about--I guess it was
a little after 9. We had a 10 or 10:30 sales meeting scheduled, or
9:30. Anyway, I got there on time for the sales meeting.
Mr. JENNER. That was the carpet company by which you were employed?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Exactly.
Mr. JENNER. Name it.
Mr. WEISSMAN. Carpet Engineers.
Mr. JENNER. And you had obtained that job when?
Mr. WEISSMAN. About a week after arriving in Dallas.
Mr. JENNER. And that was located where?
Mr. WEISSMAN. 1002 South Beckley, in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas.
Mr. JENNER. In the Oak Cliff section?
Mr. WEISSMAN. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. On Beckley?
Mr. WEISSMAN. On Beckley.
Mr. JENNER. What was the address?
Mr. WEISSMAN. 1002. I know what you are getting at. Oswald also had a
room on Beckley, but he was on the opposite extreme. I think he was on
North Beckley. I was on South Beckley.
Mr. JENNER. Give us the distance approximately between the location
of the carpet company by which you were employed which is on South
Beckley, and Oswald's address on North Beckley.
Mr. WEISSMAN. At least a few miles. I don't know. I had never been on
North Beckley.
Mr. JENNER. At no time while you were in Dallas were you ever on North
Beckley?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Not as far as I know, unless I got lost and didn't know
where I was. But as far as I know, I have never been there.
Mr. JENNER. And you were a salesman of carpeting?
Mr. WEISSMAN. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. Did you ever sell any carpeting?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Not a one.
Mr. JENNER. Did you make any effort?
Mr. WEISSMAN. I made a lot of effort. This is where most of my money
went--for gas and things like that.
Mr. JENNER. Your associate, Mr. Burley, was he a salesman for this
company also?
Mr. WEISSMAN. He quit about 2 weeks--about several days before the 22d.
And he was looking--of course, one of us had to make money. We both
were blanking out with the carpets.
Mr. JENNER. I take it, however, he had been employed by the same carpet
company?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. You made application together, did you?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. And you were both employed at approximately the same time?
Mr. WEISSMAN. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. But he left the carpet company before you did?
Mr. WEISSMAN. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. And I understand you attended a sales meeting at the carpet
company the morning of the 22d.
Mr. WEISSMAN. That is right.
Mr. JENNER. When did that sales meeting break up?
Mr. WEISSMAN. 12:30 for me. It was still going when I left. I left at
12:30 because I had this afternoon appointment, and also this meeting
with Larrie. I had talked to the sales manager after that. I had----
Mr. JENNER. What was his name?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Frank Demaria. And I had asked him if he had been
questioned at all by the FBI. He said yes, they had been around. And I
said, "What did you tell them?" And he mentioned at that time, he says,
"We thought you had left about 12 o'clock." And I said, "What are you
trying to do?"
And, anyway, this is the way it went. But I know I left at 12:30. They
were embroiled in a big discussion, and they were not cognizant of the
time. I was.
Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, would you tell us what you did on the 24th?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Went to pick up the mail in the morning, went back to the
apartment.
Mr. JENNER. You picked up mail in the morning on Sunday?
Mr. WEISSMAN. That is right, the post office was open Sunday morning.
Mr. JENNER. You went to the post office on the 23d, which is Saturday,
and you also returned----
Mr. WEISSMAN. No; I didn't go to the post office on Saturday the 23d.
Mr. JENNER. I misunderstood you, then.
Mr. WEISSMAN. No; I am almost positive it was Sunday morning. I know it
wasn't Saturday. I am positive--almost positive it was Sunday morning.
Mr. DULLES. That is when you picked up the 50-odd letters you referred
to?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Right.
Mr. JENNER. It was the day that you heard that Ruby had shot Oswald,
was it?
Mr. WEISSMAN. I am getting a little confused now. I think I might be 1
day----
Mr. JENNER. See if we can orient you. The assassination of the
President occurred on the 22d of November 1963, which is a Friday.
Mr. WEISSMAN. Right.
Mr. JENNER. Then there was Saturday. Then on Sunday the 24th occurred
the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby.
Mr. WEISSMAN. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Now, with those events in mind, when did you go to the post
office box?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Well, now, I know it was not Monday. Now, I am back in
perspective. I am almost definitely sure it was Sunday morning.
Mr. JENNER. You said earlier that it was Saturday. You said it was the
day after the ad appeared, that night, and you went the next day.
Mr. WEISSMAN. No; couldn't have.
Mr. JENNER. That was an error?
Mr. WEISSMAN. That was an error; yes. It was Sunday.
Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, on further reflection, your recollection is
reasonably firm now that you did go to the post office box on Sunday
rather than Saturday?
Mr. WEISSMAN. I am almost positive it was Sunday morning.
Mr. JENNER. You are equally positive it was not Monday?
Mr. WEISSMAN. It might either be--I remembered there was an awful lot
of traffic. And I don't know if the traffic was because everybody was
driving through downtown to go around the Houston viaduct to see the
scene of the assassination or what. And this is what is confusing me
now. That is why I am not sure if it was Sunday morning--it might have
been Monday morning. I doubt it. But it might have been.
Mr. JENNER. But it was early?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Around 8 o'clock?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Eight, nine o'clock; yes.
Mr. JENNER. I was asking you to account for your comings and goings and
your whereabouts on Sunday the 24th. And in the course of doing that,
in referring to the morning, you mentioned that you had gone to the
post office box. Now, what did you do thereafter?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Went right back to the apartment.
Mr. JENNER. Did Mr. Burley accompany you?
Mr. WEISSMAN. Yes; and another fellow. Ken--Kenneth Glazbrook.
Mr. JENNER. Who is he?
Mr. WEISSMAN. This is a fellow associated with CUSA, but never really.
He came in, as a matter of fact--yes; I had forgotten about him.
President Kennedy was assassinated on a Friday. Ken Glazbrook arrived
in town by bus on Friday night. We went down to the bus station to pick
him up.
Mr. JENNER. You knew he was coming?