Mr. DEAN. Now, are you asking did Mr. Griffin ask me why I didn't----

Mr. RANKIN. Why you didn't put it in your February--in your statement

before the February 18 one?

Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir; I believe he did, and I explained to him this

wasn't the subject--the subject of that November 26 report was my

assignment. I didn't put any of the conversation as to what Mr. Sorrels

and I talked to Mr. Ruby about. I did put at the closing paragraph, I

think, and I have a copy of it here, that my main concern was how he

got into the basement and how long he had been there because I was in

charge of the security of the basement.

Mr. RANKIN. So you didn't put it in your prior reports?

Mr. DEAN. No, sir; this was later on. Chief Curry--I think probably it

was February 18--and I think I probably wrote it that day, called me

to his office and asked me had I heard all the interview of Ruby and

Sorrels, and I told him that I did, and he asked me could I remember

it pretty well, and I said, "Yes, I believe I can remember most all of

it," and that is when Chief Curry told me that, he said, "Well, you are

going to have to testify to it because Mr. Sorrels can't because he

says he didn't warn Mr. Ruby when he was questioning him.

Well, this was fine with me. I wrote the report. This was February 18.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you tell Mr. Griffin at that time that you thought it

was unimportant or had some other reason for not including it?

Mr. DEAN. I believe that I told him that the investigation, the focal

point, was as to how he got into the basement. There was an officer,

and I knew who the officer was, I assigned him there myself, and I

felt this was more of a part of the investigation in which it was

investigated--Officer R. E. Vaughan was investigated as to whether or

not he let Ruby into the basement or saw him in the basement, and, of

course, he was cleared of this. I know of no--the only information

I passed on about that was when Jack Ruby told me how he entered. I

told my superiors and then they carried it on from there as far as the

investigation.

Mr. RANKIN. And about his planning to shoot him prior to the day

that----

Mr. DEAN. Now, this wasn't--the only time that I put that in the report

was February 18.

Mr. RANKIN. Yes; did you explain to Mr. Griffin in your prior testimony

why you didn't put it in?

Mr. DEAN. I believe that I did; I am not sure.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you want to add anything to that, just anything that you

wanted, to the Commission?

The CHAIRMAN. Do you recall whether you were asked that specific

question or not, Sergeant? May I ask, Mr. Rankin, was he asked that

question, and did he answer it?

Mr. RANKIN. I have to look at the record to be sure.

Mr. Chief Justice, in answer to your question, he was asked about what

was the first time that he had given this information and if this was

the date. He was not asked for any explanation as to why he didn't give

it at any earlier time.

The CHAIRMAN. Then we can't blame him if he didn't answer why.

Mr. RANKIN. No; I just wanted to find out if he wanted to add anything

at this time that would complete the record.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes; all right.

Mr. DEAN. Well, my main concern has been in some way this got out to

the papers. The only thing I told the papers was that I can't give any

statement. I said I have no comment, and I feel that the accusation

started with my denial because I haven't had an opportunity to deny it.

The story came out in the papers and it has been on the radio several

times, and, in fact, several times since the original, some weeks or so

after the paper learned of it of the so-called rift, as they put it.

They had the one side of it that he accused me of lying. He didn't use

the word "lie," he just said, "These are false statements, and when

you testified in court you testified falsely." He didn't use the word

"lying," and a lot of papers have since then used the word "lying."

I feel like the accusation is a lot stronger than my denial because

I haven't denied it. I haven't made any statement at all to press or

radio or any news media. I just told them it will have to come from the

Warren Commission or some other source.

Mr. RANKIN. What I was asking, Sergeant, was whether there is anything

that you would like to tell the Commission or add to your testimony

about why it wasn't in the earlier statement prior to February 18 that

you haven't already told us.

Mr. DEAN. Well, I don't think I would like--if I could, I would like

to know why Mr. Griffin had accused me of perjury. Of course, this is

something for you people to know, but I just--he wouldn't discuss it

with me.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, Sergeant, I want to say to you that, of course,

without knowing what your conversation was with Mr. Griffin, I have

never talked to Mr. Griffin about this. I didn't know that you had

this altercation with him, but I want to say this: That so far as

the jurisdiction of this Commission is concerned and its procedures,

no member of our staff has a right to tell any witness that he is

lying or that he is testifying falsely. That is not his business. It

is the business of this Commission to appraise the testimony of all

the witnesses, and, at the time you are talking about, and up to the

present time, this Commission has never appraised your testimony or

fully appraised the testimony of any other witness, and furthermore, I

want to say to you that no member of our staff has any power to help or

injure any witness.

So, so far as that conversation is concerned, there is nothing that

will be binding upon this Commission.

Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. But, as I say, I don't know what your conversation was

with Griffin, but I am just telling you as to what the limitations of

the members of our staff are.

Mr. DEAN. Yes, sir; thank you. That is about all I had.

Mr. RANKIN. That is all I have, Mr. Chief Justice.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, thank you, Sergeant, for coming and feeling as you

do, I am glad you had the frankness to come and talk to the Commission,

and offer to testify concerning it.

Mr. DEAN. Thank you. I appreciate the opportunity.

The CHAIRMAN. All right, Sergeant.

Mr. DEAN. Thank you. It is nice to have met you.

Mr. RANKIN. Waggoner, do you want to take the stand for a minute about

that conversation?

The CHAIRMAN. You are going to ask the General about it?

Have you been sworn?

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