But I assumed that his report, up until that time I had not seen his
report, and I have seen it since then and I haven't read it from one
end to the other until the other day, and he said, "Well, I am glad
to know you are the one who was there then," and evidently he had
forgotten I was there, too.
So, he said, "Well, make me a report on what you heard," and I said,
"All right, I will," and he talked to Chief Curry and evidently before
he told me that it was a matter of days or time differential in there
and I said, "All right," and I just did not get around to it until
finally one day I came in the office and he said, "I've got to have
that report today," and I said, "All right," and I sat down and wrote
it and I had to write it over again, that happened on the day the
report is dated.
Mr. RANKIN. All of that happened, though, before any news accounts of
it, didn't it?
Mr. BRIAN. Well, I don't remember when they started putting it in the
newspapers. There had been something about it to make him, somewhere to
make him say, he was trying to convince me he was telling the truth and
I said, "Well, I know you are."
I don't know what brought it on, I don't know whether it was a
newspaper report or something, but anyway there was some--maybe
Chief Curry was on him about it, I don't know. But he said that he
was telling the truth and I told him I knew he was telling the truth
because I had heard it.
Mr. RANKIN. You said you were there with him?
Mr. BRIAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. RANKIN. How close were you to him when he was talking to Hosty?
Mr. BRIAN. Right next to him when we were talking with him. We talked
around there and how you meet, you know, you walk up together and meet
and went on with him.
Mr. DULLES. You were walking toward the elevator at that time, weren't
you?
Mr. BRIAN. Let me draw you a little picture of how that is down there.
Mr. DULLES. I have been in the basement so I know something about it.
Mr. BRIAN. Yes, sir. But the ramp goes up here, this is why it would be
easier to draw a picture and it would be easier than I can explain. He
came down the ramp.
Mr. DULLES. In the car?
Mr. BRIAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. DULLES. And you parked in the basement?
Mr. BRIAN. And we parked the car, and Hosty had parked over here. You
know the ramp is wide here and the other side goes up here, he had
parked over in here and he was coming across this way and we coming
across this way and we met.
Mr. DULLES. Where is the elevator which takes prisoners up where Oswald
was shot?
Mr. BRIAN. Right through here, right in here somewhere is where Ruby
shot Oswald and this is a ramp from the Main Street side and this is
the ramp to the Commerce side. And this is the elevator.
Mr. DULLES. Where is the elevator?
Mr. BRIAN. The elevator is right there.
The CHAIRMAN. That is the prisoners' elevator?
Mr. BRIAN. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Or the freight elevator?