Mr. SAWYER. No, did any----

Mr. BELIN. Did any officer give you any information about talking to

anyone who saw a rifle or a portion of a rifle at any place other than

a window in the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. SAWYER. No, not to my knowledge.

Mr. BELIN. Did you talk to people who attempted to locate the shots

on the basis of what I would call their sense of hearing, rather than

their sense of sight?

In other words, what they heard rather than what they saw?

Mr. SAWYER. Correct. That is correct. Some of them claimed that they

had heard shots, or thought they heard shots from over the overpass.

Mr. BELIN. Did all the people you talked to say that they heard shots

over the overpass? Claim they had some knowledge about where the shots

came from?

Did they all say they heard shots from the overpass, or did they say

they heard some from other places?

Mr. SAWYER. No. Very few said they heard the shots come from the

overpass, or thought they heard them from that area.

Mr. BELIN. Well, where did other people say they heard shots come from?

Mr. SAWYER. Most of the people that heard the shots pointed out the

Texas Book Depository.

Mr. BELIN. Did some of the people that heard shots, or thought they

heard shots from the Texas School Book Depository, all say they saw a

rifle there?

Mr. SAWYER. No.

Mr. BELIN. Most of them say they saw a rifle there?

Mr. SAWYER. No, just a few, very few.

Mr. BELIN. Is there anything else you can think of that occurred at the

Texas School Book Depository that afternoon while you were there that

might have any relevancy about where the shots came from, other than

what you have told thus far?

Mr. SAWYER. Well, I had heard some of the officers come to me and said

there was supposed to be, somebody told them about a woman that had

taken some pictures of that window, and then one of the sergeants came

to me, and I am not sure who the sergeant is now, but anyway he said

that there was on the building immediately west--east, I am sorry--east

of the Texas School Book Depository, that a man up in one of the upper

windows up there was taking some moving pictures of what had gone on.

Mr. BELIN. Did you ever contact this man? Do you know what his name is?

Mr. SAWYER. No; I don't know his name. The sergeant told me that the

man would not give them the pictures, that he was waiting for the

Secret Service or the FBI, I forget which now, and I sent the sergeant

and two men back over there with instructions to bring that man and his

pictures to me.

When they got back over there, Forrest Sorrels of the Secret Service

was already there, and at least they so reported back to me, and was

talking to this man.

So I told them to go ahead with their normal assignments and since

Forrest was already there and talking to him, I knew that that part

would be taken care of.

Mr. BELIN. You don't know what his name was or what the results of it

was?

Mr. SAWYER. I don't know.

Mr. BELIN. Anything else?

Mr. SAWYER. Later that afternoon one of our colored officer detectives

saw this colored man in this crowd across the street and we had

previously broadcast a description on, and he took him into custody and

sent him immediately down to Captain Fritz' office.

Mr. BELIN. He gave a statement, is that it?

Mr. SAWYER. This I don't know. I presume he did, but I didn't stop to

talk to him or take any information.

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