TESTIMONY OF DR. PAUL CONRAD PETERS

The testimony of Dr. Paul Conrad Peters was taken at 4 p.m., on March

24, 1964, at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Arlen

Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. SPECTER. May the record show that Dr. Paul Peters is present,

having responded to a request to have his deposition taken in

connection with the investigation of the President's Commission on the

Assassination of President Kennedy, which is investigating all aspects

of the assassination, including the medical treatment of President

Kennedy at Parkland Memorial Hospital, and for the latter sequence of

events we have asked Dr. Peters to appear and testify what he knows, if

anything, concerning that medical attention.

With that statement of purpose in calling you, Dr. Peters, may I ask

you to rise and raise your right hand?

Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you give before the

President's Commission in this deposition proceeding will be the truth,

the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Dr. PETERS. I do.

Mr. SPECTER. Now, will you state your full name for the record, please?

Dr. PETERS. Paul Conrad Peters.

Mr. SPECTER. And what is your profession, sir?

Dr. PETERS. Doctor of medicine.

Mr. SPECTER. And will you outline for me briefly your educational

background?

Dr. PETERS. I went to college at Indiana University in Bloomington,

Ind., and received an A.B. degree from Indiana University in 1950,

and received an M.D. degree from Indiana University in 1953. I took

my internship at the Philadelphia General Hospital, 1953 and 1954. I

took my residency in Urological Surgery at Indiana University from

1954 to 1957, and from 1957 to 1963 I was chief of Urology at U.S.A.F.

Hospital, Carswell, which is the largest hospital in SAC, and I was

regional consultant to the surgeon general in Urological surgery. Since

July 1963, I have been assistant professor of Urology at Southwestern

Medical School.

Mr. SPECTER. And are you board certified, Dr. Peters?

Dr. PETERS. I am certified by the American Board of Urology--1960.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you have occasion to render medical services to

President John Kennedy on November 22, 1963?

Dr. PETERS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. And would you outline briefly the circumstances relating

to your arriving on the scene where he was?

Dr. PETERS. As I just gave you a while ago?

Mr. SPECTER. Yes.

Dr. PETERS. I was in the adjacent portion of the hospital preparing

material for a lecture to the medical students and residents later in

the day, when I heard over the radio that the President had been shot

and there was a great deal of confusion at the time and the extent

of his injuries was not immediately broadcast over the radio, and I

thought, because of the description of the location of the tragedy he

would probably be brought to Parkland for care, and so I went to the

emergency room to see if I could render assistance.

Mr. SPECTER. And at about what time did you arrive at the emergency

room?

Dr. PETERS. Well, could I ask a question or two?

Mr. SPECTER. Sure.

Dr. PETERS. As I recall, he was shot about 12:35 our time; is that

correct?

Mr. SPECTER. I believe that's been fixed most precisely at 12:30, Dr.

Peters.

Dr. PETERS. So, I would estimate it was probably about 12:50 when I got

there, I really don't know for certain.

Mr. SPECTER. Whom did you find present, if anyone, when you arrived?

Dr. PETERS. When I arrived the following people I noted were present

in the room: Drs. Perry, Baxter, Ron Jones, and McClelland. The first

thing I noticed, of course, was that President Kennedy was on the

stretcher and that his feet were slightly elevated. He appeared to be

placed in a position in which we usually treat a patient who is in

shock, and I noticed that Dr. Perry and Dr. Baxter were present and

that they were working on his throat. I also noticed that Dr. Ron Jones

was present in the room. I took off my coat and asked what I could do

to help, and then saw it was President Kennedy. I really didn't know

it was President Kennedy until that time. Dr. Perry was there and he

and Dr. Baxter were doing the tracheotomy and we asked for a set of

tracheotomy tubes to try and get one of the appropriate size. I then

helped Dr. Baxter assemble the tracheotomy tube which he inserted into

the tracheotomy wound that he and Dr. Perry had created.

Mr. SPECTER. Were there any others present at that time, before you go

on as to what aid you rendered?

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