PROOFS OF LIBERTY OUT OF SCRIPTURE.--NO. VI.

[Sidenote: The Bishop’s reply.]

_J. D._ “First, whosoever have power of election, have true liberty; for

the proper act of liberty is election. A spontaneity may consist with

determination to one, as we see in children, fools, madmen, brute

beasts, whose fancies are determined to those things which they act

spontaneously, as the bees make honey, the spiders webs. But none of

these have a liberty of election, which is an act of judgment and

understanding, and cannot possibly consist with a determination to one.

He that is determined by something before himself or without himself,

cannot be said to choose or elect, unless it be as the junior of the

mess chooseth in Cambridge, whether he will have the least part or

nothing. And scarcely so much.

“But men have liberty of election. This is plain, (Numbers xxx. 13): _If

a wife make a vow it is left to her husband’s choice, either to

establish it or to make it void_. And (Joshua xxiv. 15): _Choose you

this day whom you will serve_, &c. _But I and my house will serve the

Lord._ He makes his own choice, and leaves them to the liberty of their

election. And (2 Samuel xxiv. 12): _I offer thee three things, choose

thee which of them I shall do_. If one of these three things was

necessarily determined, and the other two impossible, how was it left to

him to choose what should be done? Therefore we have true liberty.”

_T. H._ And the first place of Scripture taken from Numbers xxx. 13, is

one of them that look another way. The words are, _If a wife make a vow

it is left to her husband’s choice, either to establish it or make it

void_. For it proves no more but that the husband is a free or voluntary

agent, but not that his choice therein is not necessitated or not

determined to what he shall choose by precedent necessary causes.

_J. D._ “My first argument from Scripture is thus formed.

“Whosoever have a liberty or power of election, are not determined to

one by precedent necessary causes.

“But men have liberty of election.

“The assumption or _minor_ proposition is proved by three places of

Scripture, (Numbers xxx. 13; Joshua xxiv. 15; 2 Samuel xxiv. 12.) I need

not insist upon these, because T. H. acknowledgeth ‘that it is clearly

proved that there is election in man.’

“But he denieth the _major_ proposition, because, saith he, ‘man is

necessitated or determined to what he shall choose by precedent

necessary causes.’ I take away this answer three ways.

“First, by reason. Election is evermore either of things possible, or at

least of things conceived to be possible, that is, efficacious election,

when a man hopeth or thinketh of obtaining the object. Whatsoever the

will chooseth, it chooseth under the notion of good, either honest, or

delightful, or profitable. But there can be no real goodness apprehended

in that which is known to be impossible. It is true, there may be some

wandering pendulous wishes of known impossibilities, as a man also that

hath committed an offence may wish he had not committed it. But to

choose efficaciously an impossibility, is as impossible as an

impossibility itself. No man can think to obtain that which he knows

impossible to be obtained; but he who knows that all things are

antecedently determined by necessary causes, knows that it is impossible

for anything to be otherwise than it is; therefore to ascribe unto him a

power of election to choose this or that indifferently, is to make the

same thing to be determined to one, and to be not determined to one,

which are contradictories. Again, whosoever hath an elective power, or a

liberty to choose, hath also a liberty or power to refuse; (Isaiah vii.

16): _Before the child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the

good_. He who chooseth this rather than that, refuseth that rather than

this. As Moses (Hebrews xi. 25), choosing to suffer affliction with the

people of God, did thereby refuse the pleasures of sin. But no man hath

any power to refuse that which is necessarily predetermined to be,

unless it be as the fox refused the grapes which were beyond his reach.

When one thing of two or three is absolutely determined, the others are

made thereby simply impossible.

(_a_) “Secondly, I prove it by instances, and by that universal notion

which the world hath of election. What is the difference between an

elective and hereditary kingdom, but that in an elective kingdom, they

have power or liberty to choose this or that man indifferently; but in

an hereditary kingdom, they have no such power nor liberty? Where the

law makes a certain heir, there is a necessitation to one; where the law

doth not name a certain heir, there is no necessitation to one, and

there they have power or liberty to choose. An hereditary prince may be

as grateful and acceptable to his subjects, and as willingly received by

them (according to that liberty which is opposed to compulsion or

violence), as he who is chosen: yet he is not therefore an elective

prince. In Germany all the nobility and commons may assent to the choice

of the emperor, or be well pleased with it when it is concluded; yet

none of them elect or choose the emperor, but only those six princes who

have a consultative, deliberative, and determinative power in his

election; and if their votes or suffrages be equally divided, three to

three, then the King of Bohemia hath the casting voice. So likewise in

corporations or commonwealths, sometimes the people, sometimes the

common-council, have power to name so many persons for such an office,

and the supreme magistrate, or senate, or lesser council respectively,

to choose one of those. And all this is done with that caution and

secresy, by billets or other means, that no man knows which way any man

gave his vote, or with whom to be offended. If it were necessarily and

inevitably predetermined, that this individual person, and no other,

shall and must be chosen, what needed all this circuit and caution, to

do that which is not possible to be done otherwise, which one may do as

well as a thousand, and for doing of which no rational man can be

offended, if the electors were necessarily predetermined to elect this

man and no other. And though T. H. was pleased to pass by my University

instance, yet I may not, until I see what he is able to say unto it. The

junior of the mess in Cambridge divides the meat in four parts; the

senior chooseth first, then the second and third in their order. The

junior is determined to one, and hath no choice left, unless it be to

choose whether he will take that part which the rest have refused, or

none at all. It may be this part is more agreeable to his mind than any

of the others would have been; but for all that he cannot be said to

choose it, because he is determined to this one. Even such a liberty of

election is that which is established by T. H.; or rather much worse in

two respects. The junior hath yet a liberty of contradiction left, to

choose whether he will take that part, or not take any part; but he who

is precisely predetermined to the choice of this object, hath no liberty

to refuse it. Secondly, the junior, by dividing carefully, may preserve

to himself an equal share; but he who is wholly determined by

extrinsical causes, is left altogether to the mercy and disposition of

another.

“Thirdly, I prove it by the texts alleged. (Numb. xxx. 13): _If a wife

make a vow, it is left to her husband’s choice, either to establish it

or make it void_. But if it be predetermined that he shall establish it,

it is not in his power to make it void. If it be predetermined that he

shall make it void, it is not in his power to establish it. And

howsoever it be determined, yet being determined, it is not in his power

indifferently, either to establish it, or to make it void at his

pleasure. So (Joshua xxiv. 15): _Choose you this day whom ye will serve:

but I and my house will serve the Lord_. It is too late to choose that

_this day_, which was determined otherwise yesterday. _Whom ye will

serve, whether the Gods whom your fathers served, or the Gods of the

Amorites._ Where there is an election of this or that, these Gods, or

those Gods, there must needs be either an indifferency to both objects,

or at least a possibility to either. _I and my house will serve the

Lord._ If he were extrinsically predetermined, he should not say I

_will_ serve, but I _must_ serve. And (2 Samuel xxiv. 12): _I offer thee

three things, choose thee which of them I shall do_. How doth God offer

three things to David’s choice, if he had predetermined him to one of

the three by a concourse of necessary extrinsical causes? If a sovereign

prince should descend so far as to offer a delinquent his choice,

whether he would be fined, or imprisoned, or banished, and had underhand

signed the sentence of his banishment, what were it else but plain

drollery or mockery? This is the argument which in T. H.’s opinion looks

another way. If it do, it is as the Parthians used to fight, flying. His

reason follows next to be considered.”

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