The right hon. Gentleman amused me in one part of his speech. He spoke

of the filial piety--rather a curious term--of these provinces, and

their great anxiety to make everything suit the ideas of this country;

and this was said particularly with reference to the proposition for a

Senate selected, not elected, for life, by the Governor-General of

Canada. He said they were extremely anxious to follow as far as possible

the institutions of the mother country. I have not the smallest

objection to any people on the face of the earth following our

institutions if they like them. Institutions which suit one country, as

we all know, are not very likely to suit every other country. With

regard to this particular case, the right hon. Gentleman said it is to

be observed that Canada has had a nominated council, and has changed it

for an elected one, and that surely they had a right if they pleased to

go back from an elected council to a nominated council. Well, nobody

denies that, but nobody pretends that the people of Canada prefer a

nominated council to an elected council. And all the wisdom of the wise

men to whom the right hon. gentleman the member for Oxford has referred

in such glowing terms, unless the experience of present and past times

goes for nothing, is but folly if they have come to the conclusion that

a nominated council on that continent must be better than an elected

council. Still, if they wish it, I should not interfere and try to

prevent it. But I venture to say that the clause enabling the Governor-

General and his Cabinet to put seventy men in that council for life

inserts into the whole scheme the germ of a malady which will spread,

and which before very long will require an alteration of this Act and of

the constitution of this new Confederation.

But the right hon. Gentleman went on to say that with regard to the

representative assembly--which, I suppose, is to be called according to

his phrase the House of Commons--they have adopted a very different

plan. There they have not followed the course of this country. They have

established their House of Representatives directly upon the basis of

population. They have adopted the system which prevails in the United

States, which upon every ten years' summing up of the census in that

country the number of members may be changed, and is by law changed in

the different States and districts as the rate of population may have

changed. Therefore, in that respect his friends in Canada have not

adopted the principle which prevails in this country, but that which

prevails in the United States. I believe they have done that which is

right, and which they have a right to do, and which is inevitable there.

I regret very much that they have not adopted another system with regard

to their council or senate, because I am satisfied--I have not a

particle of doubt with regard to it that we run a great danger of making

this Act work ill almost from the beginning.

They have the example of thirty-six States in the United States, in

which the Senate is elected, and no man, however sanguine, can hope that

seventy-two stereotyped provincial peers in Canada will work

harmoniously with a body elected upon a system so wide and so general as

that which prevails in the States of the American Union. There is one

point about which the right hon. Gentleman said nothing, and which I

think is so very important that the Member for Oxford, his predecessor

in office, might have told us something about it. We know that Canada is

a great country, and we know that the population is, or very soon will

be, something like 4,000,000, and we may hope that, united under one

government, the province may be more capable of defence. But what is

intended with regard to the question of defence? Is everything to be

done for the province? Is it intended to garrison its fortresses by

English troops? At the present moment there are, I believe, in the

province 12,000 or 15,000 men.

There are persons in this country, and there are some also in the North

American provinces, who are ill-natured enough to say that not a little

of the loyalty that is said to prevail in Canada has its price. I think

it is natural and reasonable to hope that there is in that country a

very strong attachment to this country. But if they are to be constantly

applying to us for guarantees for railways, and for grants for

fortresses, and for works of defence, then I think it would be far

better for them and for us--cheaper for us and less demoralising for

them--that they should become an independent State, and maintain their

own fortresses, fight their own cause, and build up their own future

without relying upon us. And when we know, as everybody knows, that the

population of Canada is in a much better position as regards the

comforts of home, than is the great bulk of the population of this

country, I say the time has come when it ought to be clearly understood

that the taxes of England are no longer to go across the ocean to defray

expenses of any kind within the Confederation which is about to be

formed.

The right hon. Gentleman has never been an advocate for great

expenditure in the colonies by the mother country. On the contrary, he

has been one of the members of this House who have distinguished

themselves by what I will call an honest system for the mother country,

and what I believe is a wise system for the colonies. But I think that

when a measure of this kind is being passed, having such stupendous

results upon the condition and the future population of these great

colonies, we have a right to ask that there should be some consideration

for the revenue and for the taxpayers of this country. In discussing

this Bill with the delegates from the provinces, I think it was the duty

of the Colonial Secretary to have gone fairly into this question, and,

if possible, to have arranged it to the advantage of the colony and the

mother country.

I believe there is no delusion greater than this--that there is any

party in the United States that wishes to commit any aggression upon

Canada, or to annex Canada by force to the United States. There is not a

part of the world, in my opinion, that runs less risk of aggression than

Canada, except with regard to that foolish and impotent attempt of

certain discontented not-long-ago subjects of the Queen, who have left

this country. America has no idea of anything of the kind. No American

statesman, no American political party, dreams for a moment of an

aggression upon Canada, or of annexing Canada by force. And therefore,

every farthing that you spend on your fortresses, and all that you do

with the idea of shutting out American aggression, is money squandered

through an hallucination which we ought to get rid of. I have not risen

for the purpose of objecting to the second reading of this Bill. Under

the circumstances, I presume it is well that we should do no other than

read it a second time. But I think the Government ought to have given a

little more time. I think they have not treated the province of Nova

Scotia with that tenderness, that generosity, and that consideration

which is desirable when you are about to make so great a change in its

affairs and in its future. For my share, I want the population of these

provinces to do that which they believe to be best for their own

interests--to remain with this country if they like it, in the most

friendly manner, or to become independent States if they wish it. If

they should prefer to unite themselves with the United States, I should

not complain even of that. But whatever be their course, there is no man

in this House or in those provinces who has a more sincere wish for

their greatness and their welfare than I have who have taken the liberty

thus to criticise this Bill.

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AMERICA.

I.

THE 'TRENT' AFFAIR.

ROCHDALE, DECEMBER 4, 1861.

[During the excitement caused by the seizure of Messrs. Mason and

Slidell, the envoys of the Slaveholders' Confederation, on board the

_Trent_ steamer, Mr. Bright's townsmen invited him to a Public

Banquet, that they might have the opportunity of hearing his opinions on

the American Civil War, and on the duty of England in regard to it. This

speech was delivered on the occasion of that Banquet.]

When the Gentlemen who invited me to this dinner called upon me, I felt

their kindness very sensibly, and now I am deeply grateful to my friends

around me, and to you all, for the abundant manifestations of kindness

with which I have been received to-night. I am, as you all know,

surrounded at this moment by my neighbours and friends, and I may say

with the utmost truth, that I value the good opinions of those who now

hear my voice far beyond the opinions of any equal number of the

inhabitants of this country selected from any other portion of it. You

have, by this act of kindness that you have shown me, given proof that,

in the main, you do not disapprove of my course and labours, that at

least you are willing to express an opinion that the motives by which I

have been actuated have been honest and honourable to myself, and that

that course has not been entirely without service to my country. Coming

to this meeting, or to any similar meeting, I always find that the

subjects for discussion appear too many, and far more than it is

possible to treat at length. In these times in which we live, by the

influence of the telegraph, and the steamboat, and the railroad, and the

multiplication of newspapers, we seem continually to stand as on the top

of an exceeding high mountain, from which we behold all the kingdoms of

the earth and all the glory of them,--unhappily, also, not only their

glory, but their follies, and their crimes, and their calamities.

Seven years ago, our eyes were turned with anxious expectation to a

remote corner of Europe, where five nations were contending in bloody

strife for an object which possibly hardly one of them comprehended,

and, if they did comprehend it, which all sensible men amongst them must

have known to be absolutely impracticable. Four years ago, we were

looking still further to the East, where there was a gigantic revolt in

a great dependency of the British Crown, arising mainly from gross

neglect, and from the incapacity of England, up to that moment, to

govern the country which it had known how to conquer. Two years ago, we

looked South, to the plains of Lombardy, and saw a great strife there,

in which every man in England took a strong interest; and we have

welcomed, as the result of that strife, the addition of a great kingdom

to the list of European States. Now, our eyes are turned in a contrary

direction, and we look to the West. There we see a struggle in progress

of the very highest interest to England and to humanity at large. We see

there a nation which I shall call the Transatlantic English nation--the

inheritor and partaker of all the historic glories of this country. We

see it torn with intestine broils, and suffering from calamities from

which for more than a century past--in fact, for more than two centuries

past--this country has been exempt. That struggle is of especial

interest to us. We remember the description which one of our great poets

gives of Rome,--

'Lone mother of dead empires.'

But England is the living mother of great nations on the American and on

the Australian continents, which promise to endow the world with all her

knowledge and all her civilization, and with even something more than

the freedom she herself enjoys.

Eighty-five years ago, at the time when some of our oldest townsmen were

very little children, there were, on the North American continent,

Colonies, mainly of Englishmen, containing about three millions of

souls. These Colonies we have seen a year ago constituting the United

States of North America, and comprising a population of no less than

thirty millions of souls. We know that in agriculture and manufactures,

with the exception of this kingdom, there is no country in the world

which in these arts may be placed in advance of the United States. With

regard to inventions, I believe, within the last thirty years, we have

received more useful inventions from the United States than from all the

other countries of the earth. In that country there are probably ten

times as many miles of telegraph as there are in this country, and there

are at least five or six times as many miles of railway. The tonnage of

its shipping is at least equal to ours, if it does not exceed ours. The

prisons of that country--for, even in countries the most favoured,

prisons are needful--have been models for other nations of the earth;

and many European Governments have sent missions at different times to

inquire into the admirable system of education so universally adopted in

their free schools throughout the Northern States.

If I were to speak of that country in a religious aspect, I should say

that, considering the short space of time to which their history goes

back, there is nothing on the face of the earth besides, and never has

been, to equal the magnificent arrangement of churches and ministers,

and of all the appliances which are thought necessary for a nation to

teach Christianity and morality to its people. Besides all this, when I

state that for many years past the annual public expenditure of the

Government of that country has been somewhere between 10,000,000_l_. and

15,000,000_l_., I need not perhaps say further, that there has always

existed amongst all the population an amount of comfort and prosperity

and abounding plenty such as I believe no other country in the world, in

any age, has enjoyed.

This is a very fine, but a very true picture; yet it has another side to

which I must advert. There has been one great feature in that country,

one great contrast, which has been pointed to by all who have commented

upon the United States as a feature of danger, as a contrast calculated

to give pain. There has been in that country the utmost liberty to the

white man, and bondage and degradation to the black man. Now rely upon

it, that wherever Christianity lives and flourishes, there must grow up

from it, necessarily, a conscience hostile to any oppression and to any

wrong; and therefore, from the hour when the United States Constitution

was formed, so long as it left there this great evil--then comparatively

small, but now so great--it left there seeds of that which an American

statesman has so happily described, of that 'irrepressible conflict' of

which now the whole world is the witness. It has been a common thing for

men disposed to carp at the United States to point to this blot upon

their fair fame, and to compare it with the boasted declaration of

freedom in their Deed and Declaration of Independence. But we must

recollect who sowed this seed of trouble, and how and by whom it has

been cherished.

Without dwelling upon this stain any longer, I should like to read to

you a paragraph from the instructions understood to have been given to

the Virginian delegates to Congress, in the month of August, 1774., by

Mr. Jefferson, who was perhaps the ablest man the United States had

produced up to that time, and who was then actively engaged in its

affairs, and who afterwards for two periods filled the office of

President. He represented one of these very Slave States--the State of

Virginia--and he says:--

'For the most trifling reasons, and sometimes for no conceivable

reason at all, his Majesty has rejected laws of the most salutary

tendency. The abolition of domestic slavery is the great object

of desire in those Colonies where it was unhappily introduced in

their infant state. But previous to the enfranchisement of the

slaves we have, it is necessary to exclude all further

importations from Africa. Yet our repeated attempts to effect

this by prohibition, and by imposing duties which might amount to

prohibition, have hitherto been defeated by his Majesty's

negative,--thus preferring the immediate advantages of a few

British corsairs to the lasting interests of the American States,

and to the rights of human nature, deeply wounded by this

infamous practice.'

I read this merely to show that, two years before the Declaration of

Independence was signed, Mr. Jefferson, acting on behalf of those he

represented in Virginia, wrote that protest against the course of the

English Government which prevented the Colonists from abolishing the

slave trade, preparatory to the abolition of slavery itself.

Well, the United States Constitution left the slave question for every

State to manage for itself. It was a question too difficult to settle

then, and apparently every man had the hope and belief that in a few

years slavery itself would become extinct. Then there happened a great

event in the annals of manufactures and commerce. It was discovered that

in those States that article which we in this country now so much depend

on, could be produced of the best quality necessary for manufacture, and

at a moderate price. From that day to this the growth of cotton has

increased there, and its consumption has increased here, and a value

which no man dreamed of when Jefferson wrote that paper has been given

to the slave and to slave industry. Thus it has grown up to that

gigantic institution which now threatens either its own overthrow or the

overthrow of that which is a million times more valuable--the United

States of America.

The crisis at which we have arrived--I say 'we,' for, after all, we are

nearly as much interested as if I was making this speech in the city of

Boston or the city of New York--the crisis, I say, which has now

arrived, was inevitable. I say that the conscience of the North, never

satisfied with the institution of slavery, was constantly urging some

men forward to take a more extreme view of the question; and there grew

up naturally a section--it may not have been a very numerous one--in

favour of the abolition of slavery. A great and powerful party resolved

at least upon a restraint and a control of slavery, so that it should

not extend beyond the States and the area which it now occupies. But, if

we look at the Government of the United States almost ever since the

formation of the Union, we shall find the Southern power has been mostly

dominant there. If we take thirty-six years after the formation of the

present Constitution--I think about 1787--we shall find that for thirty-

two of those years every President was a Southern man; and if we take

the period from 1828 until 1860, we shall find that, on every election

for President, the South voted in the majority.

We know what an election is in the United States for President of the

Republic. There is a most extensive suffrage, and there is the ballot-

box. The members of the House of Representatives are elected by the same

suffrage, and generally they are elected at the same time. It is thus

therefore almost inevitable that the House of Representatives is in

accord in public policy with the President for the time being. Every

four years there springs from the vote created by the whole people a

President over that great nation. I think the world offers no finer

spectacle than this; it offers no higher dignity; and there is no

greater object of ambition on the political stage on which men are

permitted to move. You may point, if you will, to hereditary rulers, to

crowns coming down through successive generations of the same family, to

thrones based on prescription or on conquest, to sceptres wielded over

veteran legions and subject realms,--but to my mind there is nothing so

worthy of reverence and obedience, and nothing more sacred, than the

authority of the freely chosen by the majority of a great and free

people; and if there be on earth and amongst men any right divine to

govern, surely it rests with a ruler so chosen and so appointed.

Last year the ceremony of this great election was gone through, and the

South, which had been so long successful, found itself defeated. That

defeat was followed instantly by secession, and insurrection, and war.

In the multitude of articles which have been before us in the newspapers

within the last few months, I have no doubt you have seen it stated, as

I have seen it, that this question was very much like that upon which

the Colonies originally revolted against the Crown of England. It is

amazing how little some newspaper writers know, or how little they think

you know. When the War of Independence was begun in America, ninety

years ago, there were no representatives there at all. The question then

was, whether a Ministry in Downing-street, and a corrupt and borough-

mongering Parliament, should continue to impose taxes upon three

millions of English subjects, who had left their native shores and

established themselves in North America. But now the question is not the

want of representation, because, as is perfectly notorious, the South is

not only represented, but is represented in excess; for, in distributing

the number of representatives, which is done every ten years, three out

of every five slaves are counted as freemen, and the number of

representatives from the Slave States is consequently so much greater

than if the freemen, the white men only, were counted. From this cause

the Southern States have twenty members more in the House of

Representatives than they would have if the members were apportioned on

the same principle as in the Northern Free States. Therefore you will

see at once that there is no comparison between the state of things when

the Colonies revolted, and the state of things now, when this wicked

insurrection has broken out.

There is another cause which is sometimes in England assigned for this

great misfortune, which is, the protective theories in operation in the

Union, and the maintenance of a high tariff. It happens with regard to

that, unfortunately, that no American, certainly no one I ever met with,

attributed the disasters of the Union to that cause. It is an argument

made use of by ignorant Englishmen, but never by informed Americans. I

have already shown you that the South, during almost the whole existence

of the Union, has been dominant at Washington; and during that period

the tariff has existed, and there has been no general dissatisfaction

with it. Occasionally, there can be no doubt, their tariff was higher

than was thought just, or reasonable, or necessary by some of the States

of the South. But the first Act of the United States which levied duties

upon imports, passed immediately after the Union was formed, recited

that 'It is necessary for the encouragement and protection of

manufactures to levy the duties which follow;' and during the war with

England from 1812 to 1815, the people of the United States had to pay

for all the articles they brought from Europe many times over the

natural cost of those articles, on account of the interruption to the

traffic by the English nation.

When the war was over, it was felt by everybody desirable that they

should encourage manufactures in their own country; and seeing that

England at that precise moment was passing a law to prevent any wheat

coming from America until wheat in England had risen to the price of

84_s_. per quarter, we may be quite satisfied that the doctrine of

protection originally entertained did not find less favour at the close

of the war in 1815.

There is one remarkable point with regard to this matter which should

not be forgotten. Twelve months ago, at the meeting of the Congress of

the United States, on the first Monday in December--when the Congress

met, you recollect that there were various propositions of compromise,

committee meetings of various kinds to try and devise some mode of

settling the question between the North and the South, so that disunion

might not go on--though I read carefully everything published in the

English papers from the United States on the subject, I do not recollect

that in a single instance the question of the tariff was referred to, or

any change proposed or suggested in the matter as likely to have any

effect whatever upon the question of Secession.

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