The right hon. Gentleman has also quoted from a Report by Colonel Cotton

on the subject of the embankment of the Kistna. Now, the embankment of

the Kistna has been recommended as far back as the year 1792, and from

that time has been repeatedly brought forward. The whole estimate for it

is but 155,000_l_., and it was not until September, 1852, that the

preliminary operations were commenced. I find this officer stating with

respect to the district of Rajamundry, that if a particular improvement

that had been recommended above twenty years ago had been carried out,

it would have saved the lives of upwards of 100,000 persons who perished

in the famine of 1837. I say that such facts as these are a

justification of stronger language than any in which I have indulged in

reference to the neglect of the Indian Government whether in this House

or out of it. The right hon. gentleman candidly informs us that this

very embankment has been recently stopped by order of the Madras

Government, because the money was wanted for other purposes--the Burmese

war, no doubt. In the year 1849 it was reported that Colonel Cotton

wrote a despatch to the Madras Government, in which, after mentioning

facts connected with the famines, he insisted, in strong and indignant

language, that the improvements should go on. I believe that there was

an allusion in the letter to the awkward look these things would have,

pending the discussions on the Government of India, and I understand

that it was agreed that the original letter, which countermanded the

improvements, should be withdrawn, and that then the remonstrance from

Colonel Cotton should also be withdrawn. A gentleman who has been in the

Company's service, and who has for some time been engaged in

improvements, chiefly in irrigation, writes in a private letter as

follows:--

'From my late investigations on this subject, I feel convinced

that the state of our communications is the most important

subject which calls for consideration. I reckon that India now

pays, for want of cheap transit, a sum equal to the whole of the

taxes; so that by reducing its cost to a tenth, which might

easily be done, we should as good as abolish all taxes. I trust

the Committees in England are going on well, in spite of the

unbecoming efforts which have been made to circumscribe and quash

their proceedings. Woe be to India, indeed, if this opportunity

is lost! Much will depend upon you--

(the letter was not addressed to myself)--

and others now in England, who know India, and have a single eye

to its welfare. It behoves you to do your utmost to improve this

most critical time, and may God in his mercy overrule all the

efforts of man for its good! What abominations, villanies, and

idiotcies there still are in our system! Is there no hope, no

possibility, of infusing a little fresh blood from some purer

source into these bodies?

(the ruling authorities).

It is quite clear that no radical improvement can take place till

some influences can be applied to stimulate our rulers to more

healthy, wholesome action; health can never be looked for in a

body constituted as the Court of Directors now is; nothing but

torpid disease can be expected as matters now stand.

With respect to the administration of justice, I shall not go at any

length into that subject, because I hope it will be taken up by some

other Gentleman much more competent than myself, and I trust that a

sufficient answer will be given to what has been stated by the right

hon. Gentleman. However, as far as I am able to understand, there

appears to be throughout the whole of India, on the part of the European

population, an absolute terror of coming under the Company's Courts for

any object whatever. Within the last fortnight I have had a conversation

with a gentleman who has seen a long period of service in India, and he

declared it was hopeless to expect that Englishmen would ever invest

their property in India under any circumstances which placed their

interests at the disposal of those courts of justice. That is one reason

why there appears no increase in the number of Europeans or Englishmen

who settle in the interior of India for the purpose of investing their

capital there. The right hon. Gentleman endeavoured to make an excuse on

the ground that the Law Commission had done nothing. I was not in the

House when the right hon. Member for Edinburgh (Mr. Macaulay) brought

forward the Bill of 1833, but I understand it was stated that the Law

Commission was to do wonders; yet now we have the evidence of the right

hon. Gentleman the President of the Board of Control, that the Report of

the Law Commission has ever since been going backwards and forwards,

like an unsettled spirit, between this country and India. Mr. Cameron,

in his evidence, said (I suppose it is slumbering somewhere on the

shelves in the East India House) that the Court of Directors actually

sneered at the propositions of their officers for enactments of any

kind, and that it was evidently their object to gradually extinguish the

Commission altogether. Yet the evidence of Mr. Cameron went to show the

extraordinary complication and confusion of the law and law

administration over all the British dominions in India. The right hon.

Gentleman the President of the Board of Control also referred to the

statistics laid before the public; but I want to know why Colonel Sykes'

statistical tables are not before the House. They are at the India

House; but a journey to Leadenhall-street seems to be as long as one to

India, and one can as soon get a communication by the overland mail as

any information from the India House. What did Colonel Sykes say, with

respect to a subject referred to by the right hon. Gentleman, who had

given the House to suppose that a great deal had been done in respect to

improvements in India? Colonel Sykes stated that in fifteen years, from

1838 to 1852, the average expenditure throughout the whole of India on

public works, including roads, bridges, tanks, and canals, was

299,732_l_. The north-west appeared to be the pet district; and in

1851 the total expenditure was 334,000_l_., of which the north-west

district had 240,000_l_. In 1852 the estimate was 693,000_l_.,

of which the north-west district was to have 492,000_l_., leaving

only 94,000_l_. in 1851, and 201,000_l_. in 1852, for public

works of all kinds in the three Presidencies of Bengal, Madras, and

Bombay, with a population of 70,000,000 souls. The right hon. Gentleman

then referred to the exports from this country, and the increase of

trade with India; and a kindred subject to that was the mode in which

Englishmen settle in India. What I want to show is, that the reason why

so little is done with India by Englishmen is, that there does not exist

in that country the same security for their investments as in almost

every other country in the world. I recollect receiving from Mr. Mackay,

who was sent out by the Manchester Chamber of Commerce, a letter

expressing his amazement on finding that in the interior of India an

Englishman was hardly known, unless he now and then made his appearance

as a tax collector. The following Return shows in what small numbers

Europeans resort to India:--

'British-born subjects in India not in the service of the Queen

or the Company:--

Bengal 6,749

Madras 1,661

Bombay 1,596

------

10,006

'In the interior of the country, engaged in agriculture or

manufactures--

Bengal 273

Madras 37

Bombay 7

------

317'

I cannot believe, if the United States had been the possessors of India,

but that where there are tens of Europeans now in that country there

would have been, not hundreds, but thousands of the people of America.

The right hon. Gentleman spoke of the exports to India, and wanted to

show how large they were. Certainly they have increased very much,

because they started from nothing at all. Before the opening of the

trade, the Court of Proprietors, by resolution, declared that it was

quite a delusion to suppose it possible to increase the trade with

India. In 1850 the total exports to India from Great Britain and Ireland

were 8,024,000_l_., of which cotton goods alone amounted to

5,220,000_l_., leaving 2,804,000_l_. for the total exports

from Great Britain and Ireland upon all other branches of industry other

than cotton. Now, let the House make a comparison with another country,

one with which a moderately fair comparison might be made. Brazil has a

population of 7,500,000 souls, half of whom are reckoned to be slaves,

yet the consumption of British goods is greater in Brazil, in proportion

to the population, than in India--the former country, with a population

of 7,500,000, taking British goods to the amount of 2,500,000_l_.

If India took but half the quantity of our exports that Brazil did in

proportion to her population, she would take more than five times what

she now takes. Yet Brazil is a country upon which we have imposed the

payment of exorbitant duties, which we have almost debarred from trading

with us by an absurd monopoly in sugar, while India is a country

entirely under our own government, and which, we are told, is enjoying

the greatest possible blessings under the present administration,

compared with what it enjoyed under its former rulers. Our exports to

India in 1814 were 826,000_l_.; in 1832 they were

3,600,000_l_.; in 1843 they were 6,500,000_l_.; and in 1850

they were 8,000,000_l_. India consumes our exports at the rate of

1_s_. 3 _d_. per head; whilst in South America, including the

whole of the slave population, the consumption per head is 8 _s_.

8_d_. These are facts which the right hon. Baronet is bound to pay

serious attention to. For myself, representing, as I do, one of our

great seats of manufacturing industry, I feel myself doubly called upon

to lose no opportunity of bringing such facts before the House,

satisfied as I am that there is no Member of this House so obtuse as not

to comprehend how materially the great manufacturing interests of this

country are concerned in the question--what shall be the future

Government of India?

Another subject requiring close attention on the part of Parliament is

the employment of the natives of India in the service of the Government.

The right hon. Member for Edinburgh (Mr. Macaulay), in proposing the

Indian Bill of 1833, had dwelt on one of its clauses, which provided

that neither colour, nor caste, nor religion, nor place of birth, should

be a bar to the employment of persons by the Government; whereas, as

matter of fact, from that time to this, no person in India has been so

employed, who might not have been equally employed before that clause

was enacted; and, from the statement of the right hon. Gentleman the

President of the Board of Control, that it is proposed to keep up the

covenanted service system, it is clear that this most objectionable and

most offensive state of things is to continue. Mr. Cameron, a gentleman

thoroughly versed in the subject, as fourth member of Council in India,

President of the Indian Law Commission, and of the Council of Education

for Bengal--what does he say on this point? He says--

'The statute of 1833 made the natives of India eligible to all

offices under the Company. But during the twenty years that have

since elapsed, not one of the natives has been appointed to any

office except such as they were eligible to before the statute.

It is not, however, of this omission that I should feel justified

in complaining, if the Company had shown any disposition to make

the natives fit, by the highest European education, for admission

to their covenanted service. Their disposition, as far as it can

be devised, is of the opposite kind.

'When four students (added Mr. Cameron) were sent to London from

the Medical College of Calcutta, under the sanction of Lord

Hardinge, in Council, to complete their professional education,

the Court of Directors expressed their dissatisfaction; and when

a plan for establishing a University at Calcutta, which had been

prepared by the Council of Education, was recommended to their

adoption by Lord Hardinge, in Council, they answered that the

project was premature. As to the Law Commission, I am afraid that

the Court of Directors have been accustomed to think of it only

with the intention of procuring its abolition.'

Under the Act of 1833 the natives of India were declared to be eligible

to any office under the Company. No native has, in the twenty years

which have since elapsed, been appointed to any office in pursuance of

that clause which he might not have held before the Bill passed, or had

it never passed at all. There might not, perhaps, have been so much

reason to complain of this circumstance, had the Government of India

meanwhile shown a disposition to qualify the natives for the covenanted

service; but the fact is that the Government has, on the contrary,

manifested a disposition of a totally opposite character. The House must

be very cautious not to adopt the glossed and burnished statement of the

right hon. Gentleman as exhibiting the real state of things in India;

for it is essential, in the highest degree, that in the present critical

juncture of things the whole truth should be known. The right hon.

Baronet, towards the close of his speech, has gone into the subject of

education, and not so much into that of ecclesiastical establishments in

India, but somewhat into that of religion. Now, with reference to

education, so far as can be gathered from the Returns before the House--

I have sought to obtain Returns of a more specific character, but to no

purpose, having received the usual answer in these matters, that there

was no time for preparing them--but from the Returns we have before us I

find that while the Government has overthrown almost entirely that

native education which had subsisted throughout the country so

universally that a schoolmaster was as regular a feature in every

village as the 'potail' or head man, it has done next to nothing to

supply the deficiency which has been created, or to substitute a better

system. Out of a population of 100,000,000 natives we instruct but

25,000 children; out of a gross revenue of 29,000,000_l_. sterling,

extracted from that population, we spend but 66,000_l_. in their

education. In India, let it be borne in mind, the people are not in the

position with regard to providing for their own education which the

people of this country enjoy, and the education which they have provided

themselves with, the Government has taken from them, supplying no

adequate system in its place. The people of India are in a state of

poverty, and of decay, unexampled in the annals of the country under

their native rulers. From their poverty the Government wrings a gross

revenue of more than 29,000,000_l_. sterling, and out of that

29,000,000_l_., return to them 66,000_l_. per annum for the

purposes of education!

What is our ecclesiastical establishment in India? Three bishops and a

proportionate number of clergy, costing no less than 101,000_l_. a-

year for the sole use of between 50,000 and 60,000 Europeans, nearly

one-half of whom, moreover--taking the army--are Roman Catholics. I

might add, that in India, the Government showed the same discrimination

of which the noble Member for the City of London (Lord J. Russell)

seemed to approve so much the other night, for, although they give to

one Protestant bishop 4,000_l_. a-year, with 1,2OO_l_. a-year

more for expenses and a ship at his disposal, and to two other

Protestant bishops between 2,000_l_. and 3,000_l_. a-year,

they give to the Roman Catholic bishop a paltry sum of about

250_l_. a-year. The East India Company are not, perhaps, herein so

much to blame, seeing that they do but follow the example of what is

going on in this country.

There is another question--perhaps the most important of all--the

question of Indian finance, which, somehow or other, the right hon.

Baronet has got over in so very lame a manner, in so particularly

confused a style, that had I not known something of the matter

previously, I should have learnt very little from the right hon.

Baronet's statement. A former Director of the East India Company has, on

this subject, issued a book--of course, in defence of the Company. Here

are two or three facts extracted from this book:--From 1835 to 1851--

sixteen years--the entire net taxation of India has produced

340,756,000_l_.; the expenditure on the Government in the same

period having been 341,676,000_l_.--an amount somewhat in excess of

the revenue. During these sixteen years there has been also expended on

public works of all kinds 5,000,000_l_., and there has been paid,

in dividends, to the proprietors of East India stock,

10,080,000_l_.; making a total expenditure of 356,756,000_l_.

In the same period the Company has contracted loans to the extent of

16,000,000_l_.; every farthing of which has gone to improvements,

the stated extent of which I believe to have been greatly magnified, and

to pay the amiable ladies and gentlemen whose votes return to

Leadenhall-street those immaculate Directors whom the Government seems

so desirous of cherishing. All expenditure for improvements of every

kind, and all dividends to stockholders, have been paid from loans

contracted during the last sixteen years; so that the whole revenue has

been expended, leaving nothing for improvements and nothing for the

Company's dividends. This seems to me a formidable, an alarming state of

things.

The right hon. Gentleman spoke of the Indian debt coming upon the people

of this country, expressing the opinion that if the Government of India

were transferred to the Crown--which assuredly it ought to be--the debt

ought so to be transferred. The debt is not in the present Budget,

indeed, but it will certainly come before the House. I have already

referred to a memorable speech of the late Sir Robert Peel on this

subject, in 1842, just after he had come into office, and when, finding

the country left by the Whigs with an Exchequer peculiarly discouraging

to a Chancellor of the Exchequer, he was about to propose that temporary

income-tax which has since become permanent. He said, after referring to

the affairs of Canada and China--

'For the purpose of bringing before the House a full and complete

view of our financial position, as I promised to do, I feel it to

be my duty to refer to a subject which has of late occupied

little attention in the House, but which I think might, with

advantage to the public, have attracted more of their regard--I

refer to the state of Indian finance, a subject which formerly

used to be thought not unworthy of the consideration of this

House. I am quite aware that there may appear to be no direct and

immediate connexion between the finances of India and those of

this country; but that would be a superficial view of our

relations with India which should omit the consideration of this

subject. Depend upon it, if the credit of India should become

disordered, if some great exertion should become necessary, then

the credit of England must be brought forward to its support, and

the collateral and indirect effect of disorders in Indian

finances would be felt extensively in this country. Sir, I am

sorry to say that Indian finance offers no consolation for the

state of finance in this country. I hold in my hand an account of

the finances of India, which I have every reason to believe is a

correct one. It is made up one month later than our own accounts--

to the 5th of May. It states the gross revenue of India, with the

charges on it; the interest of the debt; the surplus revenue, and

the charges paid on it in England; and there are two columns

which contain the net surplus and the net deficit. In the year

ending May, 1836, there was a surplus of 1,520,000_l_. from

the Indian revenue. In the year ending the 5th of May, 1837,

there was a surplus of 1,100,000_l_., which was reduced

rapidly in the year ending May, 1838, to one of 620,000_l_.

In the year ending the 5th of May, 1839, the surplus fell to

29,000_l_.; in the year ending the 5th of May, 1840, the

balance of the account changed, and so far from there being any

surplus, the deficit on the Indian revenue was 2,414,000_l_.

I am afraid I cannot calculate the deficit for the year ending

May, 1841, though it depends at present partly on estimate, at

much less than 2,334,000_l_. The House, then, will bear in

mind, that in fulfilment of the duty I have undertaken, I present

to them the deficit in this country for the current year to the

amount of 2,350,000_l_., with a certain prospect of a

deficit for the next year to the amount of at least

2,470,000_l_., independently of the increase to be expected

on account of China and Affghanistan, and that in India, that

great portion of our Empire, I show a deficit on the two last

years which will probably not be less than 4,700,000_l_.'--

[3 _Hansard_, lxi. 428-9.]

Now, this deficit has in the period since 1842 been growing every year,

with the exception of two years, when, from accidental and precarious

circumstances, a surplus of between 300,000_l_. and

400,000_l_. was made out. The course of deficit has now, however,

been resumed, and there is probably no one in this House or in the

country but the right hon. President of the Board of Control, who does

not perceive that the Burmese war will materially aggravate the amount

of that deficit. Where is this to end? When the Board of Control was

first established, the debt was 8,000,000_l_.; in 1825 it was

25,000,000_l_.; in 1829 it was 34,000,000_l_.; in 1836,

37,000,000_l_.; in 1843, 36,000,000_l_.; in 1849,

44,000,000_l_.; in 1853, 47,000,000_l_.; and now, including

the bond debt at home and the debt in India, it is about

51,000,000_l_. The military expenditure of India has increased

since the last Charter Act from 8,000,000_l_. a-year to more than

12,000,000_l_. a-year, and now forms no less than 56 per cent. of

the whole expenditure. I believe that if the Indian Government would

endeavour to improve the condition of the people by attending to

economic principles, by establishing better means of communication, by

promoting irrigation, and by affording facilities for education, the

Indian population would at once be convinced that there was a feeling of

sympathy entertained towards them on the part of their rulers and

conquerors, and the idea--which I believe prevails very extensively--

that we held India more with the object of extorting taxation than of

benefiting the people, would speedily be removed.

When I come to consider the amount of the revenue, and its pressure upon

the population, I think I can show a state of things existing in India

which cannot be paralleled in any other country in the world. The

evidence of Mr. Davies and Mr. Stewart, collectors in Guzerat, shows

that in that district the actual taxation varies from 60 to 90 per cent.

upon the gross produce of the soil. Mr. Campbell calculates the gross

revenue of India at about 27,000,000_l_.; and Mr. Kaye, a recent

authority, who, I presume, wrote his book at the India House, states

that the gross revenue was 29,000,000_l_. The land revenue is

12,000,000_l_. or 13,000,000_l_.; and although the Government

took, or intended to take, all the rent, it is not half enough for them,

and they are obliged to take as much more from other sources in order to

enable them to maintain their establishments. I mention this fact to

show the enormous expense of the Indian Government, and the

impossibility of avoiding a great and dangerous financial crisis unless

some alteration is made in the present system. Mr. Campbell, speaking of

the Indian revenues under the Mogul Princes, says--

'The value of food, labour, &c., seems to have been much the same

as now--that is, infinitely cheaper than in Europe; and,

certainly, in comparison to the price of labour and all articles

of consumption, the revenue of the Moguls must have been more

effective than that of any modern State--I mean that it enabled

them to command more men and luxuries, and to have a greater

surplus.'

I would ask the House to imagine that all steam engines, and all

applications of mechanical power, were banished from this country; that

we were utterly dependent upon mere manual labour. What would you think

if the Chancellor of the Exchequer, under such circumstances,

endeavoured to levy the same taxation which is now borne by the country?

From one end of India to the other, with very trifling exceptions, there

is no such thing as a steam engine; but this poor population, without a

steam engine, without anything like first-rate tools, are called upon to

bear, I will venture to say, the very heaviest taxation under which any

people ever suffered with the same means of paying it. Yet the whole of

this money, raised from so poor a population, which would in India buy

four times as much labour, and four times as much of the productions of

the country, as it would obtain in England, is not enough to keep up the

establishments of the Government; for during the last sixteen years the

Indian Government has borrowed 16,000,000_l_. to pay the dividends

to the proprietors in England.

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