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SPEECHES

_ON QUESTIONS OF PUBLIC POLICY_

BY

JOHN BRIGHT, M.P.

EDITED BY

JAMES E. THOROLD ROGERS

IN TWO VOLUMES

VOL. I.

'BE JUST AND FEAR NOT'

SECOND EDITION

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PREFACE.

The speeches which have been selected for publication in these volumes

possess a value, as examples of the art of public speaking, which no

person will be likely to underrate. Those who may differ from Mr.

Bright's theory of the public good will have no difficulty in

acknowledging the clearness of his diction, the skill with which he

arranges his arguments, the vigour of his style, the persuasiveness of

his reasoning, and above all, the perfect candour and sincerity with

which he expresses his political convictions.

It seems likely that the course of events in this country will lead

those, who may desire to possess influence in the conduct of public

affairs, to study the art of public speaking. If so, nothing which can

be found in English literature will aid the aspirant after this great

faculty more than the careful and reiterated perusal of the speeches

contained in these volumes. Tried indeed by the effect produced upon any

audience by their easy flow and perfect clearness, or analysed by any of

those systems of criticism which under the name of 'rhetoric' have been

saved to us from the learning of the ancient world, these speeches would

be admitted to satisfy either process.

This is not the occasion on which to point out the causes which confer

so great an artistic value on these compositions; which give them now,

and will give them hereafter, so high a place in English literature. At

the present time nearly a hundred millions of the earth's inhabitants

speak the English tongue. A century hence, and it will probably be the

speech of nearly half the inhabitants of the globe. I think that no

master of that language will occupy a loftier position than Mr. Bright;

that no speaker will teach with greater exactness the noblest and rarest

of the social arts, the art of clear and persuasive exposition. But

before this art can be attained (so said the greatest critic that the

world has known), it is necessary that the speaker should secure the

sympathies of his audience, should convince them of his statesmanship,

should show that he is free from any taint of self-interest or

dissimulation. These conditions of public trust still form, as

heretofore, in every country of free thought and free speech, the

foundation of a good reputation and of personal influence. It is with

the fact that such are the characteristics of my friend's eloquence,

that I have been strongly impressed in collecting and editing the

materials of these volumes.

Since the days of those men of renown who lived through the first half

of the seventeenth century, when the liveliest religious feeling was

joined to the loftiest patriotism, and men laboured for their conscience

and their country, England has witnessed no political career like that

of Cobden and Bright. Cobden's death was a great loss to his country,

for it occurred at a time when England could ill spare a conscientious

statesman. Nations, however, cannot be saved by the virtues, nor need

they be lost by the vices, of their public men. But Cobden's death was

an irreparable loss to his friends--most of all to the friend who had

been, in an incessant struggle for public duty and truth, of one heart

and of one purpose with him.

Those who have been familiar with Cobden's mind know how wide was his

knowledge, how true was his judgment of political events. The vast

majority of those who followed his public career had but a scanty

acquaintance with the resources of his sagacity and foresight. He spoke

to the people on a few subjects only. The wisdom of Free Trade; the

necessity of Parliamentary Reform; the dangerous tendency of those laws

which favour the accumulation of land in few hands; the urgent need for

a system of national education; the mischief of the mere military

spirit; the prudence of uniting communities by the multiplication of

international interests; the abandonment of the policy of diplomatic and

military intermeddling; the advocacy, in short, of the common good in

place of a spurious patriotism, of selfish, local, or class aims, formed

the subject of Cobden's public utterances. But his intimate friends, and

in particular his regular correspondents, were aware that his political

criticism was as general as it was accurate. The loss then of his wise

and lucid counsel was the greatest to the survivor of a personal and a

political friendship which was continued uninterruptedly through so long

and so active a career.

At the commencement of Mr. Bright's public life, the shortsighted

selfishness of a landlords' parliament was afflicting the United Kingdom

with a continuous dearth. Labour was starved, and capital was made

unproductive by the Corn-laws. The country was tied to a system by which

Great Britain and her Colonies deliberately chose the dearest market for

their purchases. In the same spirit, the price of freights was wilfully

heightened by the Navigation-laws. Important branches of home industry

were crippled by prying, vexatious, and wasteful excises. And this

system was conceived to be the highest wisdom; or at any rate, to be so

invincible a necessity that it could not be avoided or altered without

danger. The country, if it were to make its way, could make it only

because other nations were servile imitators of our commercial policy,

and, in the vain hope of retaliation, were hindering their own progress.

The foreign policy of Great Britain was suspicious and irritating, for

it was secret, busy, and meddling, insolent to the weak, conciliatory,

even truckling, to the strong. The very name of diplomacy is and has

been odious to English Liberals, for by means of it a reactionary

Government could check domestic reforms, and hinder the community of

nations indefinitely. The policy of the Foreign Office was constantly

directed towards embittering, if not embroiling, the relations between

this and other countries. It is difficult to account for these

intrigues, except on the ground that successive Governments were anxious

to maintain political and social anomalies at home, while they were

affecting to support 'the balance of power' abroad. The abandonment of

intervention in foreign politics was the beginning of agitation for

domestic reforms.

Perhaps no part of the public administration was worse than that of

India. The great Company had lost its monopoly of trade in the Eastern

seas, but retained its administrative powers over the subject races and

dependent princes of India. Its system of finance was wasteful and

oppressive. Its policy was that of aggression and annexation. In

practice, the Government was irresponsible. Nobody listened to Indian

affairs in Parliament, except on rare occasions, or for party purposes.

The Governor-General did as he pleased. The President of the Board of

Control did as he pleased. If the reader wishes to see how the former

acted, Mr. Cobden's pamphlet, 'How Wars are got up in India' will

enlighten him. If it be necessary to inquire what the policy of the

latter might be, the disastrous and disgraceful Affghan War is an

illustration. Never perhaps was a war commenced more recklessly. It is

certain that when loss and dishonour fell on the English arms, the

statesmen who recommended and insisted on the war tried to screen

themselves from just blame by the basest arts.

The internal resources of India were utterly neglected. The Company

collected part of its revenue from a land-tax, levied in the worst

shape. In order to secure an income through a monopoly, it constrained

the cultivation of certain drugs for which there was a foreign demand;

and neglected to encourage the cultivation of cotton, for which the home

demand was wellnigh boundless, and to which the Indian supply might be

made to correspond. The Company constructed neither road nor canal. It

did nothing towards maintaining the means of communication which even

the native governments had adopted. It suffered the ancient roads and

tanks to fall into decay. It neglected to educate the native gentry,

much more the people. In brief, the policy of the Company in dealing

with India was the policy of Old Spain with her Transatlantic

possessions, only that it was more jealous and illiberal.

Against these social and political evils, and many others which might be

enumerated, a very small body of true and resolute statesmen arrayed

themselves. Among these statesmen the most eminent were the two chiefs

of the Anti-Corn-law agitation. Never did men lead a hope which seemed

more forlorn. They had as opponents nearly the whole Upper House of

Parliament, a powerful and compact party in the Lower. The Established

Church was, of course, against them. The London newspapers, at that time

almost the only political power in the press, were against them. The

'educated' classes were against them. Many of the working people were

unfriendly to them, for the Chartists believed that the repeal of the

Corn-laws would lower the price of labour. After a long struggle they

gained the day; for an accident, the Irish famine, rendered a change in

the Corn-laws inevitable. But had it not been for the organization of

the League, the accident would have had no effect; for it is a rule in

the philosophy of politics that an accident is valuable only when the

machinery for making use of the accident is at hand. Calamities never

teach wisdom to fools, they render it possible that the wise should

avail themselves of the emergency.

A similar calamity, long foreseen by prudent men, caused the political

extinction of the East India Company. The joint action of the Board of

Control and the Directors led to the Indian mutiny. The suppression of

the Indian mutiny led to the suppression of the Leadenhall Street Divan.

Another calamity, also foreseen by statesmen, the outbreak of the

American Civil War, gave India commercial hope, and retrieved the

finances which the Company's rule had thrown into hopeless disorder.

I have selected the speeches contained in these two volumes, with a view

to supplying the public with the evidence on which Mr. Bright's friends

assert his right to a place in the front rank of English statesmen. I

suppose that there is no better evidence of statesmanship than

prescience; that no fuller confirmation of this evidence can be found

than in the popular acceptance of those principles which were once

unpopular and discredited. A short time since, Lord Derby said that Mr.

Bright was the real leader of the Opposition. It is true that he has

given great aid to that opposition which Lord Derby and his friends have

often encountered, and by which, to their great discredit, but to their

great advantage, they have been constantly defeated. If Lord Derby is in

the right, Mr. Bright is the leader of the People, while his Lordship

represents a party which is reckless because it is desperate. The policy

which Mr. Bright has advocated in these pages, and throughout a quarter

of a century, a policy from which he has never swerved, has at last been

accepted by the nation, despite the constant resistance of Lord Derby

and his friends. It embodies the national will, because it has attacked,

and in many cases vanquished, institutions and laws which have become

unpopular, because they have been manifestly mischievous and

destructive. No one knows better how conservative and tolerant is public

opinion in England towards traditional institutions, than Mr. Bright

does; or how indifferent the nation is to attacks on an untenable

practice and a bad law, until it awakens to the fact that the law or the

practice is ruinous.

Mr. Bright's political opinions have not been adopted because they were

popular. He was skilfully, and for a time successfully, maligned by Lord

Palmerston, on account of his persevering resistance to the policy of

the Russian War. But it is probable that the views he entertained at

that time will find more enduring acceptance than those which Lord

Palmerston and Lord Palmerston's colleagues promulgated, and that he has

done more to deface that Moloch, 'the balance of power,' than any other

man living. Shortly after the beginning of the Planters' War, almost all

the upper, and many of the middle classes, sympathized with the Slave-

owners' conspiracy. Everybody knows which side Mr. Bright took, and how

judicious and far-sighted he was in taking it. But everybody should

remember also how, when Mr. Bright pointed out the consequences likely

to ensue from the cruise of the _Alabama_, he was insulted by Mr.

Laird in the House of Commons; the Mr. Laird who launched the

_Alabama_, who has been the means of creating bitter enmity between

the people of this country and of the United States, and has contrived

to invest the unlawful speculation of a shipbuilder with the dignity of

an international difficulty, to make it the material for an unsettled

diplomatic question.

There are many social and political reforms, destined, it may be hoped,

to become matter of debate and action in a Reformed Parliament, towards

the accomplishment of which Mr. Bright has powerfully contributed. There

is that without which Reform is a fraud, the redistribution of seats;

that without which it is a sham, the ballot; that without which it is

possibly a danger, a system of national education, which should be, if

not compulsory, so cogently expedient that it cannot be rejected. There

is the great question of the distribution of land, its occupancy, and

its relief from that pestilent system of game preserving which robs the

farmer of his profit and the people of their home supplies. There is the

pacification of Ireland. The only consolation which can be gathered from

the condition of that unhappy country is, that reforms, which are highly

expedient in Great Britain, are vital in Ireland, and that they

therefore become familiar to the public mind. There is the development

of international amity and good-will, first between ourselves and the

people of our own race, next between all nations. There is the

recognition of public duty to inferior or subject races, a duty which

was grievously transgressed before and after the Indian mutiny, and has

been still more atrociously outraged in the Jamaica massacre. Upon these

and similar matters, no man who wishes to deserve the reputation of a

just and wise statesman,--in other words, to fulfil the highest and

greatest functions which man can render to man,--can find a worthier

study than the public career of an Englishman whose guiding principle

throughout his whole life has been his favourite motto, 'Be just and

fear not.'

I have divided the speeches contained in these volumes into groups. The

materials for selection are so abundant, that I have been constrained to

omit many a speech which is worthy of careful perusal. I have naturally

given prominence to those subjects with which Mr. Bright has been

especially identified, as, for example, India, America, Ireland, and

Parliamentary Reform. But nearly every topic of great public interest on

which Mr. Bright has spoken is represented in these volumes.

A statement of the views entertained by an eminent politician, who

wields a vast influence in the country, is always valuable. It is more

valuable when the utterances are profound, consistent, candid. It is

most valuable at a crisis when the people of these islands are invited

to take part in a contest where the broad principles of truth, honour,

and justice are arrayed on one side, and their victory is threatened by

those false cries, those reckless calumnies, those impudent evasions

which form the party weapons of desperate and unscrupulous men.

All the speeches in these volumes have been revised by Mr. Bright. The

Editor is responsible for their selection, for this Preface, and for the

Index at the close of the second volume.

JAMES E. THOROLD ROGERS.

OXFORD, _June_ 30, 1868.

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The Second Edition of these volumes is an exact reprint of the first,

certain obvious errors of the press only having been corrected.

OXFORD, _Dec_. 21, 1868.

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CONTENTS OF VOL. I.

INDIA.

I. House of Commons, June 3, 1853

II. House of Commons, June 24, 1858

III. House of Commons, May 20, 1858

IV. House of Commons, August 1, 1859

V. House of Commons, March 19, 1861

CANADA.

I. House of Commons, March 13, 1865

II. _The Canadian Fortifications_. House of Commons,

March 23, 1865

III. _The Canadian Confederation Scheme_. House of

Commons, February 28, 1867

AMERICA.

I. The _'Trent' Affair_. Rochdale, December 4, 1861

II. _The War and the Supply of Cotton_. Birmingham,

December 18, 1862

III. _Slavery and Secession_. Rochdale, February 3,

1863

IV. _The Struggle in America_. St. James's Hall,

March 26, 1863

V. London, June 16, 1863

VI. _Mr. Roebuck's Motion for Recognition of the

Southern Confederacy_. House of Commons,

June 30, 1863

VII. London, June 29, 1867

IRELAND.

I. _Maynooth Grand_. House of Commons, April 16,

1845

II. _Crime and Outrage Bill_. House of Commons,

December 13, 1847

III. _Employment of the Poor_. House of Commons,

August 25, 1848

IV. _Rate in Aid_. House of Commons, April 2,

1849

V. _Habeas Corpus Suspension Bill_. House of Commons,

February 17, 1866

VI. Dublin, October 30, 1866

VII. Dublin, November 2, 1866

VIII. House of Commons, March 14, 1868

IX. House of Commons, April 1, 1868

RUSSIA.

I. _War with Russia--The Queen's Message_. House

of Commons, March 31, 1854

II. _Enlistment of Foreigners' Bill_. House of Commons,

December 22, 1854

III. _Negotiations at Vienna_. House of Commons,

February 23, 1855

IV. _On the Prosecution of the Russian War_. House

of Commons, June 7, 1855

Letter of John Bright to Absalom Watkin on the Russian War

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INDIA

I

HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUNE 3, 1853.

_From Hansard_.

[The ministerial measure for the government of India was introduced by

Sir Charles Wood on June 3, 1853. The particulars of the Bill were as

follows: The Government proposed that for the future the relations

between the Directors and the Board of Control should be unchanged, but

that the constitution of the former should be altered and its patronage

curtailed. It reduced the number of the Members of the Court from

twenty-four to eighteen, of whom twelve were to be elected as before,

and six nominated by the Crown from Indian servants who had been ten

years in the service of the Crown or the Company. One-third of this

number was to go out every second year, but to be re-eligible.

Nominations by favour were to be abolished. The governorship of Bengal

was to be separated from the office of Governor-General. The legislative

council was to be improved and enlarged, the number to be twelve. The

Bill passed the House of Lords on June 13.]

I feel a considerable disadvantage in rising to address the House after

having listened for upwards of five hours to the speech of the right

hon. Gentleman. But the question is one, as the right hon. Gentleman has

said, of first-rate importance; and as I happen from a variety of

circumstances to have paid some attention to it, and to have formed some

strong opinions in regard to it, I am unwilling even that the Bill

should be brought in, or that this opportunity should pass, without

saying something, which will be partly in reply to the speech of the

right hon. Gentleman, and partly by way of comment on the plan which he

has submitted to the House. There is, as it appears to me, great

inconsistency between the speech of the right hon. Gentleman, and that

which he proposes should be done; because, really, if we take his speech

as a true and faithful statement of the condition of India, and of the

past proceedings of the Government in that country, our conviction must

be that the right hon. Gentleman will be greatly to be blamed in making

any alteration in that Government. At the same time, if it be not a

faithful portraiture of the Government, and of its transactions in

India, then what the right hon. Gentleman proposes to do in regard to

the home administration of that country is altogether insufficient for

the occasion. I cannot on the present occasion go into many of the

details on which the right hon. Gentleman has touched; but the

observations which I have to make will refer to matters of government,

and those will be confined chiefly to the organisation of the home

administration. I am not much surprised that the Government should have

taken what I will call a very unsatisfactory course with regard to the

measure they have propounded, because they evidently did not seem

exactly to know what they ought to do from the very first moment that

this question was brought before them. I do not allude to the whole of

the Treasury bench, but I refer particularly to the noble Lord (Lord J.

Russell), because he was at the head of the Government when this

question was first brought before them. Lord Broughton, then Sir John

Hobhouse, was at that time the President of the Board of Control, and he

was not in favour of a Committee to inquire into the past government and

present condition of India. Shortly afterwards, however, it was

considered by the noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) that it would be

desirable to have such a Committee appointed. A Committee was appointed,

and it sat.

But at the commencement of the present Session the noble Lord intimated

very distinctly, in answer to a question which I put to him, and which

seemed to make the noble Lord unnecessarily angry, that it was the

intention of the Government to legislate, and in such a way as to leave

the Indian Government almost entirely the same as it had hitherto been.

['No, no!'] Well, I thought that the noble Lord said so, and in

corroboration of that I may mention that the noble Lord quoted--and I

believe that it was the noble Lord's only authority--the opinion of the

right hon. Gentleman the Member for Stamford (Mr. Herries), who

considered that no material change was required in the constitution of

the home Indian Government. Well, when the noble Lord made that

announcement, considerable dissatisfaction was manifested on both sides

of the House, some hon. Members speaking in favour of a delay of one,

two, or three years, or declaring themselves strongly against the

present constitution of the Indian Government. However, from that time

to this, various rumours were afloat, and everybody was confident one

week that there would be no legislation, or only a postponement; in

another week it was thought that there was to be a very sweeping measure

(which last report, I must say, I never believed); and the week after

that people were again led to the conclusion that there would be a

measure introduced such as the one this night submitted to the House.

Again, it was understood so lately as last Saturday that there would be

no legislation on the subject, excepting a mere temporary measure for a

postponement. I confess that I was myself taken in by that announcement.

On Monday the hon. Member for Poole (Mr. Danby Seymour) gave notice of a

question on the same subject, and he was requested not to ask it till

Tuesday. On Tuesday there was a Cabinet Council, and whether there was a

change of opinion then I know not, but I presume that there was. The

opinion that was confidently expressed on Saturday gave way to a new

opinion, and the noble Lord announced that legislation would be

proceeded with immediately. All this indicates that there was a good

deal of vacillation on the part of the Government. At last, however, has

come the speech of the right hon. Gentleman the President of the Board

of Control. There were some good things in it, no doubt. I do not

suppose that any man could stand up, and go on speaking for five hours,

without saying something that was useful. But as to the main question on

which this matter rests, I do not believe that the plan which the

Government proposes to substitute will be one particle better than that

which exists at the present moment.

With regard to the question of patronage, I admit, so far as that goes,

that the plan proposed by the right hon. Gentleman will be an

improvement on the present system. But I do not understand that the

particular arrangement of the covenanted service is to be broken up at

all. That is a very important matter, because, although he might throw

open the nominations to the Indian service to the free competition of

all persons in this country, yet if, when these persons get out to

India, they are to become a covenanted service, as that service now is

constituted, and are to go on from beginning to end in a system of

promotion by seniority--and they are to be under pretty much the same

arrangement as at present--a great deal of the evil now existing will

remain; and the continuance of such a body as that will form a great bar

to what I am very anxious to see, namely, a very much wider employment

of the most intelligent and able men amongst the native population.

The right hon. Gentleman has, in fact, made a long speech wholly in

defence of the Indian Government; and I cannot avoid making some remarks

upon what he has stated because I wholly dissent from a large portion of

the observations which he has made. But the right hon. Gentleman, above

all things, dreads that this matter should be delayed. Now I will just

touch upon that point. The right hon. Gentleman has said that he has not

met any one who does not consider it highly desirable that the House

should legislate upon the subject of the Government of India this year;

and that it will be a great evil if such legislation is postponed. In

support of this view he produces a private letter from Lord Dalhousie

upon the subject. Now I do not consider such evidence as by any means

conclusive, because the House knows that Lord Dalhousie has been

connected with the system that now exists. That noble Earl is also

surrounded by persons who are themselves interested in maintaining the

present system. From his elevated position also in India--I do not mean

his location at Simlah--but from his being by his station removed from

the mass of the European population, and still more removed from the

native population, I do not think it at all likely that Lord Dalhousie

will be able to form a sounder opinion upon this question than persons

who have never been in India. In my opinion, no evil can possibly arise

from creating in the minds of the population of India a feeling that the

question of Indian Government is considered by the House of Commons to

be a grave and solemn question; and I solemnly believe that if the

decision on the question be delayed for two years, so as to enable

Parliament to make due inquiries as to the means of establishing a

better form of government in India, it will create in the minds of all

the intelligent natives of India a feeling of confidence and hope, and

that whatever may be done by them in the way of agitation will be rather

for the purpose of offering information in the most friendly and

generous spirit, than of creating opposition to any Government

legislation. However, the question of delay is one which the House in

all probability will be called upon to decide on another occasion.

But passing from that subject, I now come to the principle upon which

the right hon. Gentleman founded his Motion. The speech of I he right

hon. Gentleman was throughout that of an advocate of the Indian

Government, as at present constituted; and, if Mr. Melville had said

everything that could possibly be dragged into the case, he could not

have made it more clearly appear than the right hon. Gentleman has done

that the Government of India has been uniformly worthy of the confidence

of the country. My view of this matter, after a good deal of

observation, is, that the Indian Government, composed of two branches,

which the right hon. Gentleman does not propose to amalgamate into one,

is a Government of secrecy and irresponsibility to a degree that should

not be tolerated in a country like this, where we have a constitutional

and Parliamentary Government, I have not the least idea in any

observations which I may make either in this House or elsewhere of

bringing a charge against the East India Company--that is to say,

against any individual member of the Board of Directors, as if they were

anxious to misgovern India. I never had any such suspicion. I believe

that the twenty-four gentlemen who constitute the Board of Directors

would act just about as well as any other twenty-four persons elected by

the same process, acting under the same influences, and surrounded by

the same difficulties--having to act with another and independent body--

the Board of Control. Neither am I hostile to the Board of Control,

because I think that the duty imposed upon it is greater than any such

body can properly perform. The right hon. Gentleman, the enormous

labours of whose office could not be accomplished by any one man, coming

into office in December, and having to propose a new Government for

India in the month of May or June, must have found it extremely

difficult to make himself master of the question. But beyond this the

House should bear in mind, that during the last thirty years there has

been a new President of the Board of Control every two years. Nay, in

the course of last year there were no less than three Presidents of the

Board of Control. Thus that Board seems framed in such a manner as to

make it altogether impossible that any one man should be able to conduct

it in the way which it ought to be conducted. Beyond this, the President

of that Board has to act in conjunction with the Court of Directors.

Without saying anything which would impute blame to any party, it must

be obvious that two such bodies combined can never carry on the

government of India wisely, and in accordance with those principles

which have been found necessary in the government of this country. The

right hon. Gentleman has been obliged to admit that the theory of the

old Government of India was one which could not be defended, and that

everybody considers it ridiculous and childish. I am not at all certain

that the one that is going to be established is in any degree better. It

was in 1784 that this form of government was established, amid the fight

of factions. In 1813 it was continued for twenty-years longer, during a

time when the country was involved in desperate hostilities with France.

In 1833 another Bill, continuing that form of government, passed through

Parliament immediately after the hurricane which carried the Reform

Bill. All these circumstances rendered it difficult for the Government,

however honestly disposed, to pass the best measure for the government

of India. But all the difficulties which then existed appear to me

wholly to have vanished. Never has any question come before Parliament

more entirely free from a complication of that nature, or one which the

House has the opportunity of more quietly and calmly considering, than

the question now before them.

I should have been pleased if the right hon. Gentleman had given the

House the testimony of some two or three persons on his own side of the

question. But, as he has not done so, I will trouble the House by

referring to some authorities in support of my own views. I will first

refer to the work of Mr. Campbell, which has already been quoted by the

right hon. Gentleman. It is a very interesting book, and gives a great

deal of information. That writer says--

'The division of authority between the Board of Control and the

Court of Directors, the large number of directors, and the

peculiar system by which measures are originated in the Court,

sent for approval to the Board, then back again to the Court, and

so on, render all deliverances very slow and difficult; and when

a measure is discussed in India, the announcement that it has

been referred to the Court of Directors is often regarded as an

indefinite postponement. In fact, it is evident that (able and

experienced as are many of the individual directors) twenty-four

directors in one place, and a Board of Control in another, are

not likely very speedily to unite in one opinion upon any

doubtful point.'

That, I think, is likely to be the opinion of any man on the Government

of India. There is another authority to which I will refer, Mr. Kaye,

who has also written a very good book. It was actually distributed by

the Court of Directors; I have therefore a right to consider it a fair

representation of their views of what was done, especially as the

Chairman of the Court has given me a copy of the book. Mr. Kaye, in

referring to the double Government which existed in Bengal in 1772,

makes use of these expressions. When I first read them, I thought they

were a quotation from my own speeches:--

'But enlightened as were the instructions thus issued to the

supervisors, the supervision was wholly inadequate to the

requirements of the case. The double Government, as I have shown,

did not work well. It was altogether a sham and an imposture. It

was soon to be demolished at a blow.... The double Government

had, by this time, fulfilled its mission. It had introduced an

incredible amount of disorder and corruption into the State, and

of poverty and wretchedness among the people; it had embarrassed

our finances, and soiled our character, and was now to be openly

recognised as a failure.'

This is only as to Bengal. The following are the words he uses in

respect to the double Government at home:--

'In respect of all transactions with foreign Powers--all matters

bearing upon questions of peace and war--the President of the

Board of Control has authority to originate such measures as he

and his colleagues in the Ministry may consider expedient. In

such cases he acts presumedly in concert with the Secret

Committee of the Court of Directors--a body composed of the

chairman, deputy-chairman, and senior member of the Court. The

Secret Committee sign the despatches which emanate from the

Board, but they have no power to withhold or to alter them. They

have not even the power to record their dissent. In fact, the

functions of the Committee are only those which, to use the words

of a distinguished member of the Court (the late Mr. Tucker), who

deplored the mystery and the mockery of a system which obscures

responsibility and deludes public opinion, could as well be

performed "by a secretary and a seal."'

Further on he says--

'In judging of responsibility, we should remember that the whole

foreign policy of the East India Company is regulated by the

Board of Control; that in the solution of the most vital

questions--questions of peace and war--affecting the finances of

the country, and, therefore, the means of internal improvement,

the Court of Directors have no more power than the mayor and

aldermen of any corporate town. India depends less on the will of

the twenty-four than on one man's caprice--here to-day and gone

to-morrow--knocked over by a gust of Parliamentary uncertainty--

the mistaken tactics of a leader, or negligence of a whipper-in.

The past history of India is a history of revenue wasted and

domestic improvement obstructed by war.'

This is very much what I complain of. I admit the right of the East

India Company to complain of many things done by the Board of Control;

and I am of opinion, that if the House left the two bodies to combat one

another, they would at last come to an accurate perception of what they

both are. The East India Company accused the Board of Control of making

wars and squandering the revenue which the Company collected. But Mr.

Kaye said that Mr. Tucker deplored the mystery and the mockery of a

system which obscured responsibility and deluded public opinion. It is

because of this concealment, of this delusion practised upon public

opinion, of this evasion of public responsibility and Parliamentary

control, that you have a state of things in India which the hon. Member

for Guildford (Mr. Mangles) has described, when he says that the Company

manages the revenues, collects the taxes, and gets from

20,000,000_l_. to 30,000,000_l_. a-year, and nobody knows how

much more. But, whatever it is, such is the system of foreign policy

pursued by the Board of Control--that is to say, by the gentlemen who

drop down there for six or eight or twelve months, never beyond two

years--that, whatever revenues are collected, they are squandered on

unnecessary and ruinous wars, till the country is brought to a state of

embarrassment and threatened bankruptcy. That is the real point which

the House will have to consider.

With regard to some of the details of the Government plan, we should no

doubt all agree: but this question of divided responsibility, of

concealed responsibility, and of no responsibility whatever, that is the

real pith of the matter. The House should take care not to be diverted

from that question. [Mr. Mangles: 'Produce your own plan.'] An hon.

Gentleman has asked me to produce my plan. I will not comply with that

request, but will follow the example of a right hon. Gentleman, a great

authority in this House, who once said, when similarly challenged, that

he should produce his plan when he was called in. I believe that the

plan before the House to-night was concocted by the Board of Control and

the hon. Member for Guildford and his Colleagues I shall, therefore,

confine myself at present to the discussion of that plan. Some persons

are disposed very much (at least I am afraid so) to undervalue the

particular point which I am endeavouring to bring before the House; and

they seem to fancy that it does not much matter what shall be the form

of government in India, since the population of that country will always

be in a condition of great impoverishment and much suffering; and that

whatever is done must be done there, and that after all--after having

conquered 100,000,000 of people--it is not in our power to interfere for

the improvement of their condition. Mr. Kaye, in his book, commences the

first chapters with a very depreciating account of the character of the

Mogul Princes, with a view to show that the condition of the people of

India was at least as unfavourable under them as under British rule. I

will cite one or two cases from witnesses for whose testimony the right

hon. Gentleman (Sir C. Wood) must have respect. Mr. Marshman is a

gentleman who is well known as possessing a considerable amount of

information on Indian affairs, and has, I presume, come over on purpose

to give his evidence on the subject. He was editor of a newspaper which

was generally considered throughout India to be the organ of the

Government; in that newspaper, the _Friend of India_, bearing the

date 1st April, 1852, the following statement appears:--

'No one has ever attempted to contradict the fact that the

condition of the Bengal peasantry is almost as wretched and

degraded as it is possible to conceive--living in the most

miserable hovels, scarcely fit for a dog-kennel, covered with

tattered rags, and unable, in too many instances, to procure more

than a single meal a-day for himself and family. The Bengal ryot

knows nothing of the most ordinary comforts of life. We speak

without exaggeration when we affirm, that if the real condition

of those who raise the harvest, which yields between

3,000,000_l_. and 4,000,000_l_. a-year, was fully

known, it would make the ears of one who heard thereof tingle.'

It has been said that in the Bengal Presidency the natives are in a

better condition than in the other Presidencies; and I recollect that

when I served on the Cotton Committee the evidence taken before it being

confined to the Bombay and Madras Presidencies, it was then said that if

evidence had been taken about the Bengal Presidency it would have

appeared that the condition of the natives was better. But I believe

that it is very much the same in all the Presidencies. I must say that

it is my belief that if a country be found possessing a most fertile

soil, and capable of bearing every variety of production, and that,

notwithstanding, the people are in a state of extreme destitution and

suffering, the chances are that there is some fundamental error in the

government of that country. The people of India have been subjected by

us, and how to govern them in an efficient and beneficial manner is one

of the most important points for the consideration of the House. From

the Report of the Indian Cotton Committee it appears that nearly every

witness--and the witnesses were nearly all servants of the Company--gave

evidence as to the state of destitution in which the cultivators of the

soil lived. They were in such an abject condition that they were obliged

to give 40 or 50 per cent, to borrow money to enable them to put seed

into the ground. I can, if it were necessary, bring any amount of

evidence to prove the miserable condition of the cultivators, and that

in many places they have been compelled to part with their personal

ornaments. Gentlemen who have written upon their condition have drawn a

frightful picture, and have represented the persons employed to collect

the revenue as coming upon the unhappy cultivators like locusts, and

devouring everything. With regard to the consumption of salt, looking at

the _Friend of India_, of April 14, 1853, it appears that it is on

the decline. In the year 1849-50, the consumption was 205,517 tons; in

1850-51, 186,410 tons; and in 1851-2, 146,069 tons. Thus, in the short

period of three years, there has been a decrease in the consumption

amounting to 59,448 tons, which will involve a loss to the revenue of

416,136_l_. [Footnote: The _Friend of India_ was incorrect in

this statement the real decline in the consumption of salt was about

12,000 tons.] Salt is one of those articles that people in India will

use as much of as they can afford, and the diminution in the consumption

appears to me to be a decided proof of the declining condition of the

population, and that must affect adversely the revenue of the Indian

Government. Now there is another point to which the right hon. Gentleman

has slightly alluded; it is connected with the administration of

justice, and I will read from the _Friend of India_ a case

illustrative of the efficiency of the police. The statement is so

extraordinary that it would be incredible but for the circumstance of

its having appeared in such a respectable journal:--

'The affair itself is sufficiently uninteresting. A native

Zemindar had, or fancied he had, some paper rights over

certain lands occupied by a European planter, and, as a

necessary consequence, sent a body of armed retainers to

attack his factory. The European resisted in the same

fashion by calling out his retainers. There was a pitched

battle, and several persons were wounded, if not slain;

while the Darogah, the appointed guardian of the peace, sat

on the roof of a neighbouring hut and looked on with an

interest, the keenness of which was probably not diminished

by the fact of his own immunity from the pains and perils of

the conflict. There has been a judicial investigation, and

somebody will probably be punished, if not by actual

sentence, by the necessary disbursement of fees and

douceurs, but the evil will not be thereby suppressed or

even abated. The incident, trifling as it may appear--and

the fact that it is trifling is no slight evidence of a

disorganised state of society--is an epitome in small type

of our Bengal police history. On all sides, and in every

instance, we have the same picture--great offences, the

police indifferent or inefficient, judicial investigations

protracted till the sufferers regret that they did not

patiently endure the injury, and somebody punished, but no

visible abatement of the crime. The fact is, and it is

beginning at last to be acknowledged everywhere, except

perhaps at home, that Bengal does not need so much a

"reform" or reorganisation of the police, as a police, a

body of some kind, specially organised for the preservation

of order. Why the change is so long postponed, no one, not

familiar with the _arcana_ of Leadenhall-street and

Cannon-row, can readily explain.'

Mr. Marshman uses the expression, 'the incident, trifling as it may

appear;' but I will ask the House if they can conceive a state of

society in a country under the Government of England where a scene of

violence such as has been described could be considered trifling?

The right hon. Gentleman has, while admitting that the want of roads in

some districts of India is a great evil, endeavoured to show that a

great deal has been done to remedy the deficiency, and that on some

roads the mails travel as fast as ten miles an hour. Now, I believe that

if the speed were taken at five miles an hour, it would be nearer the

truth; and I will beg the House to excuse me if I read another extract

from the _Friend of India_ of April 14, 1853:--

'The Grand Trunk, however, is the only road upon which a

good speed has been attained, remarks being attached to all

of the remainder strongly indicative of the want of improved

means of communication. From Shergotty to Gyah, and Gyah to

Patna, for instance, the pace is four miles and a half an

hour; but then "the road is cutcha, and the slightest shower

of rain renders it puddly and impracticable for speedy

transit." From Patna to Benares the official account is the

same, but the rate increases at one stage to five miles and

a half. The southern roads are, however, in the worst

condition, the mails travelling to Jelazore at three miles

an hour, or less than a groom can walk; and even between

Calcutta and Baraset the rate rises to only four miles and a

half an hour, while everywhere we have such notices as "road

intersected by numerous unbridged rivers and nullahs," "road

has not been repaired for these many years," "road not

repaired for years," the "road in so bad a state, and so

much intersected by rivers and nullahs, that no great

improvement in the speed of the mails can be effected." And

yet the surplus Ferry Funds might, one would think, if

economically administered, be sufficient to pay at least for

the maintenance of the roads already in existence. New

roads, we fear, are hopeless until Parliament fixes a

_minimum_, which must be expended on them; and even

then it may be allowed to accumulate, as the Parliamentary

grant for education has done at Madras.'

The right hon. Gentleman has referred to the subject of irrigation; and

I hold in my hand an extract from the Report of the Commission which

inquired into the subject. The Report states that--

'The loss of revenue by the famine of 1832-33 is estimated at

least at 1,000,000_l_. sterling; the loss of property at a

far greater amount; of life, at 200,000 or 300,000; and of

cattle, at 200,000 at the lowest, in Guntore alone, besides the

ruin of 70,000 houses. The famine of the Northern Circars in

1833, and that of the north-western provinces of India at a later

period, prove with irresistible force that irrigation in this

country is properly a question, not of profit, but of existence.'

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