On Tuesday, the fourth of July, 1831, Lord John Russell moved the second

reading of the Bill to amend the representation of the people in England

and Wales. Sir John Walsh, member for Sudbury, moved, as an amendment,

that the bill should be read that day six months. After a discussion,

which lasted three nights, the amendment was rejected by 367 votes to

231, and the original motion was carried. The following Speech was made

on the second night of the debate.

Nobody, Sir, who has watched the course of the debate can have failed to

observe that the gentlemen who oppose this bill have chiefly relied on

a preliminary objection, which it is necessary to clear away before we

proceed to examine whether the proposed changes in our representative

system would or would not be improvements. The elective franchise,

we are told, is private property. It belongs to this freeman, to that

potwalloper, to the owner of this house, to the owner of that old wall;

and you have no more right to take it away without compensation than to

confiscate the dividends of a fundholder or the rents of a landholder.

Now, Sir, I admit that, if this objection be well founded, it is

decisive against the plan of Reform which has been submitted to us. If

the franchise be really private property, we have no more right to take

members away from Gatton because Gatton is small, and to give them to

Manchester because Manchester is large, than Cyrus, in the old story,

had to take away the big coat from the little boy and to put it on the

big boy. In no case, and under no pretext however specious, would I take

away from any member of the community anything which is of the nature

of property, without giving him full compensation. But I deny that the

elective franchise is of the nature of property; and I believe that, on

this point, I have with me all reason, all precedent, and all authority.

This at least is certain, that, if disfranchisement really be robbery,

the representative system which now exists is founded on robbery. How

was the franchise in the English counties fixed? By the act of Henry

the Sixth, which disfranchised tens of thousands of electors who had not

forty shilling freeholds. Was that robbery? How was the franchise in

the Irish counties fixed? By the act of George the Fourth, which

disfranchised tens of thousands of electors who had not ten pound

freeholds. Was that robbery? Or was the great parliamentary reform made

by Oliver Cromwell ever designated as robbery, even by those who most

abhorred his name? Everybody knows that the unsparing manner in which he

disfranchised small boroughs was emulously applauded, by royalists, who

hated him for having pulled down one dynasty, and by republicans, who

hated him for having founded another. Take Sir Harry Vane and Lord

Clarendon, both wise men, both, I believe, in the main, honest men, but

as much opposed to each other in politics as wise and honest men

could be. Both detested Oliver; yet both approved of Oliver's plan of

parliamentary reform. They grieved only that so salutary a change should

have been made by an usurper. Vane wished it to have been made by the

Rump; Clarendon wished it to be made by the King. Clarendon's language

on this subject is most remarkable. For he was no rash innovator.

The bias of his mind was altogether on the side of antiquity and

prescription. Yet he describes that great disfranchisement of boroughs

as an improvement fit to be made in a more warrantable method and at a

better time. This is that better time. What Cromwell attempted to effect

by an usurped authority, in a country which had lately been convulsed

by civil war, and which was with difficulty kept in a state of sullen

tranquillity by military force, it has fallen to our lot to accomplish

in profound peace, and under the rule of a prince whose title is

unquestioned, whose office is reverenced, and whose person is beloved.

It is easy to conceive with what scorn and astonishment Clarendon would

have heard it said that the reform which seemed to him so obviously just

and reasonable that he praised it, even when made by a regicide, could

not, without the grossest iniquity, be made even by a lawful King and a

lawful Parliament.

Sir, in the name of the institution of property, of that great

institution, for the sake of which, chiefly, all other institutions

exist, of that great institution to which we owe all knowledge, all

commerce, all industry, all civilisation, all that makes us to differ

from the tattooed savages of the Pacific Ocean, I protest against the

pernicious practice of ascribing to that which is not property the

sanctity which belongs to property alone. If, in order to save political

abuses from that fate with which they are threatened by the public

hatred, you claim for them the immunities of property, you must expect

that property will be regarded with some portion of the hatred which is

excited by political abuses. You bind up two very different things, in

the hope that they may stand together. Take heed that they do not fall

together. You tell the people that it is as unjust to disfranchise a

great lord's nomination borough as to confiscate his estate. Take heed

that you do not succeed in convincing weak and ignorant minds that there

is no more injustice in confiscating his estate than in disfranchising

his borough. That this is no imaginary danger, your own speeches in this

debate abundantly prove. You begin by ascribing to the franchises of Old

Sarum the sacredness of property; and you end, naturally enough, I

must own, by treating the rights of property as lightly as I should be

inclined to treat the franchises of Old Sarum. When you are reminded

that you voted, only two years ago, for disfranchising great numbers of

freeholders in Ireland, and when you are asked how, on the principles

which you now profess, you can justify that vote, you answer very

coolly, "no doubt that was confiscation. No doubt we took away from the

peasants of Munster and Connaught, without giving them a farthing of

compensation, that which was as much their property as their pigs or

their frieze coats. But we did it for the public good. We were pressed

by a great State necessity." Sir, if that be an answer, we too may plead

that we too have the public good in view, and that we are pressed by a

great State necessity. But I shall resort to no such plea. It fills me

with indignation and alarm to hear grave men avow what they own to be

downright robbery, and justify that robbery on the ground of political

convenience. No, Sir, there is one way, and only one way, in which those

gentlemen who voted for the disfranchising Act of 1829 can clear their

fame. Either they have no defence, or their defence must be this;

that the elective franchise is not of the nature of property, and that

therefore disfranchisement is not spoliation.

Having disposed, as I think, of the question of right, I come to the

question of expediency. I listened, Sir, with much interest and pleasure

to a noble Lord who spoke for the first time in this debate. (Lord

Porchester.) But I must own that he did not succeed in convincing me

that there is any real ground for the fears by which he is tormented.

He gave us a history of France since the Restoration. He told us of the

violent ebbs and flows of public feeling in that country. He told us

that the revolutionary party was fast rising to ascendency while M. De

Cazes was minister; that then came a violent reaction in favour of the

monarchy and the priesthood; that then the revolutionary party again

became dominant; that there had been a change of dynasty; and that the

Chamber of Peers had ceased to be a hereditary body. He then predicted,

if I understood him rightly, that, if we pass this bill, we shall

suffer all that France has suffered; that we shall have violent contests

between extreme parties, a revolution, and an abolition of the House of

Lords. I might, perhaps, dispute the accuracy of some parts of the noble

Lord's narrative. But I deny that his narrative, accurate or inaccurate,

is relevant. I deny that there is any analogy between the state of

France and the state of England. I deny that there is here any

great party which answers either to the revolutionary or to the

counter-revolutionary party in France. I most emphatically deny that

there is any resemblance in the character, and that there is likely to

be any resemblance in the fate, of the two Houses of Peers. I always

regarded the hereditary Chamber established by Louis the Eighteenth

as an institution which could not last. It was not in harmony with the

state of property; it was not in harmony with the public feeling; it

had neither the strength which is derived from wealth, nor the strength

which is derived from prescription. It was despised as plebeian by

the ancient nobility. It was hated as patrician by the democrats. It

belonged neither to the old France nor to the new France. It was a mere

exotic transplanted from our island. Here it had struck its roots deep,

and having stood during ages, was still green and vigorous. But it

languished in the foreign soil and the foreign air, and was blown

down by the first storm. It will be no such easy task to uproot the

aristocracy of England.

With much more force, at least with much more plausibility, the noble

Lord and several other members on the other side of the House have

argued against the proposed Reform on the ground that the existing

system has worked well. How great a country, they say, is ours! How

eminent in wealth and knowledge, in arts and arms! How much admired! How

much envied! Is it possible to believe that we have become what we are

under a bad government! And, if we have a good government, why alter

it? Now, Sir, I am very far from denying that England is great, and

prosperous, and highly civilised. I am equally far from denying that she

owes much of her greatness, of her prosperity, and of her civilisation

to her form of government. But is no nation ever to reform its

institutions because it has made great progress under those

institutions? Why, Sir, the progress is the very thing which makes the

reform absolutely necessary. The Czar Peter, we all know, did much for

Russia. But for his rude genius and energy, that country might have

still been utterly barbarous. Yet would it be reasonable to say that

the Russian people ought always, to the end of time, to be despotically

governed, because the Czar Peter was a despot? Let us remember that the

government and the society act and react on each other. Sometimes

the government is in advance of the society, and hurries the society

forward. So urged, the society gains on the government, comes up with

the government, outstrips the government, and begins to insist that the

government shall make more speed. If the government is wise, it will

yield to that just and natural demand. The great cause of revolutions

is this, that while nations move onward, constitutions stand still. The

peculiar happiness of England is that here, through many generations,

the constitution has moved onward with the nation. Gentlemen have told

us, that the most illustrious foreigners have, in every age, spoken

with admiration of the English constitution. Comines, they say, in the

fifteenth century, extolled the English constitution as the best in the

world. Montesquieu, in the eighteenth century, extolled it as the best

in the world. And would it not be madness in us to throw away what

such men thought the most precious of all our blessings? But was the

constitution which Montesquieu praised the same with the constitution

which Comines praised? No, Sir; if it had been so, Montesquieu never

would have praised it. For how was it possible that a polity which

exactly suited the subjects of Edward the Fourth should have exactly

suited the subjects of George the Second? The English have, it is true,

long been a great and a happy people. But they have been great and happy

because their history has been the history of a succession of timely

reforms. The Great Charter, the assembling of the first House of

Commons, the Petition of Right, the Declaration of Right, the Bill which

is now on our table, what are they all but steps in one great progress?

To every one of those steps the same objections might have been made

which we heard to-night, "You are better off than your neighbours are.

You are better off than your fathers were. Why can you not leave well

alone?"

How copiously might a Jacobite orator have harangued on this topic

in the Convention of 1688! "Why make a change of dynasty? Why trouble

ourselves to devise new securities for our laws and liberties? See what

a nation we are. See how population and wealth have increased since what

you call the good old times of Queen Elizabeth. You cannot deny that the

country has been more prosperous under the kings of the House of Stuart

than under any of their predecessors. Keep that House, then, and be

thankful." Just such is the reasoning of the opponents of this

bill. They tell us that we are an ungrateful people, and that, under

institutions from which we have derived inestimable benefits, we are

more discontented than the slaves of the Dey of Tripoli. Sir, if we had

been slaves of the Dey of Tripoli, we should have been too much sunk

in intellectual and moral degradation to be capable of the rational and

manly discontent of freemen. It is precisely because our institutions

are so good that we are not perfectly contended with them; for they have

educated us into a capacity for enjoying still better institutions. That

the English Government has generally been in advance of almost all other

governments is true. But it is equally true that the English nation is,

and has during some time been, in advance of the English Government. One

plain proof of this is, that nothing is so ill made in our island as

the laws. In all those things which depend on the intelligence, the

knowledge, the industry, the energy of individuals, or of voluntary

combinations of individuals, this country stands pre-eminent among all

the countries of the world, ancient and modern. But in those things

which it belongs to the State to direct, we have no such claim to

superiority. Our fields are cultivated with a skill unknown elsewhere,

with a skill which has extorted rich harvests from moors and morasses.

Our houses are filled with conveniences which the kings of former times

might have envied. Our bridges, our canals, our roads, our modes of

communication, fill every stranger with wonder. Nowhere are manufactures

carried to such perfection. Nowhere is so vast a mass of mechanical

power collected. Nowhere does man exercise such a dominion over matter.

These are the works of the nation. Compare them with the works of the

rulers of the nation. Look at the criminal law, at the civil law, at the

modes of conveying lands, at the modes of conducting actions. It is by

these things that we must judge of our legislators, just as we judge

of our manufacturers by the cotton goods and the cutlery which they

produce, just as we judge of our engineers by the suspension bridges,

the tunnels, the steam carriages which they construct. Is, then,

the machinery by which justice is administered framed with the same

exquisite skill which is found in other kinds of machinery? Can there

be a stronger contrast than that which exists between the beauty, the

completeness, the speed, the precision with which every process is

performed in our factories, and the awkwardness, the rudeness, the

slowness, the uncertainty of the apparatus by which offences are

punished and rights vindicated? Look at the series of penal statutes,

the most bloody and the most inefficient in the world, at the puerile

fictions which make every declaration and every plea unintelligible both

to plaintiff and defendant, at the mummery of fines and recoveries, at

the chaos of precedents, at the bottomless pit of Chancery. Surely we

see the barbarism of the thirteenth century and the highest civilisation

of the nineteenth century side by side; and we see that the barbarism

belongs to the government, and the civilisation to the people.

This is a state of things which cannot last. If it be not terminated by

wisdom, it will be terminated by violence. A time has come at which it

is not merely desirable, but indispensable to the public safety, that

the government should be brought into harmony with the people; and it

is because this bill seems to me likely to bring the government into

harmony with the people, that I feel it to be my duty to give my hearty

support to His Majesty's Ministers.

We have been told, indeed, that this is not the plan of Reform which the

nation asked for. Be it so. But you cannot deny that it is the plan of

Reform which the nation has accepted. That, though differing in many

respects from what was asked, it has been accepted with transports

of joy and gratitude, is a decisive proof of the wisdom of timely

concession. Never in the history of the world was there so signal an

example of that true statesmanship, which, at once animating and gently

curbing the honest enthusiasm of millions, guides it safely and steadily

to a happy goal. It is not strange, that when men are refused what is

reasonable, they should demand what is unreasonable. It is not strange

that, when they find that their opinion is contemned and neglected by

the Legislature, they should lend a too favourable ear to worthless

agitators. We have seen how discontent may be produced. We have seen,

too, how it may be appeased. We have seen that the true source of the

power of demagogues is the obstinacy of rulers, and that a liberal

Government makes a conservative people. Early in the last session, the

First Minister of the Crown declared that he would consent to no

Reform; that he thought our representative system, just as it stood, the

masterpiece of human wisdom; that, if he had to make it anew, he would

make it such as it was, with all its represented ruins and all its

unrepresented cities. What followed? Everything was tumult and panic.

The funds fell. The streets were insecure. Men's hearts failed them for

fear. We began to move our property into German investments and American

investments. Such was the state of the public mind, that it was not

thought safe to let the Sovereign pass from his palace to the Guildhall

of his capital. What part of his kingdom is there in which His Majesty

now needs any other guard than the affection of his loving subjects?

There are, indeed, still malecontents; and they may be divided into two

classes, the friends of corruption and the sowers of sedition. It is

natural that all who directly profit by abuses, and all who profit by

the disaffection which abuses excite, should be leagued together against

a bill which, by making the government pure, will make the nation loyal.

There is, and always has been, a real alliance between the two extreme

parties in this country. They play into each other's hands. They live

by each other. Neither would have any influence if the other were taken

away. The demagogue would have no audience but for the indignation

excited among the multitude by the insolence of the enemies of Reform:

and the last hope of the enemies of Reform is in the uneasiness excited

among all who have anything to lose by the ravings of the demagogue.

I see, and glad I am to see, that the nation perfectly understands and

justly appreciates this coalition between those who hate all liberty and

those who hate all order. England has spoken, and spoken out. From her

most opulent seaports, from her manufacturing towns, from her capital

and its gigantic suburbs, from almost every one of her counties, has

gone forth a voice, answering in no doubtful or faltering accent to that

truly royal voice which appealed on the twenty-second of last April to

the sense of the nation.

So clearly, indeed, has the sense of the nation been expressed, that

scarcely any person now ventures to declare himself hostile to all

Reform. We are, it seems, a House of Reformers. Those very gentlemen

who, a few months ago, were vehement against all change, now own that

some change may be proper, may be necessary. They assure us that their

opposition is directed, not against Parliamentary Reform, but against

the particular plan which is now before us, and that a Tory Ministry

would devise a much better plan. I cannot but think that these tactics

are unskilful. I cannot but think that, when our opponents defended the

existing system in every part, they occupied a stronger position than

at present. As my noble friend the Paymaster-General said, they have

committed an error resembling that of the Scotch army at Dunbar. They

have left the high ground from which we might have had some difficulty

in dislodging them. They have come down to low ground, where they are at

our mercy. Surely, as Cromwell said, surely the Lord hath delivered them

into our hand.

For, Sir, it is impossible not to perceive that almost every argument

which they have urged against this Reform Bill may be urged with equal

force, or with greater force, against any Reform Bill which they can

themselves bring in.

First take, what, indeed, are not arguments, but wretched substitutes

for arguments, those vague terms of reproach, which have been so

largely employed, here and elsewhere, by our opponents; revolutionary,

anarchical, traitorous, and so forth. It will, I apprehend, hardly be

disputed that these epithets can be just as easily applied to one Reform

Bill as to another.

But, you say, intimidation has been used to promote the passing of this

bill; and it would be disgraceful, and of evil example, that Parliament

should yield to intimidation. But surely, if that argument be of any

force against the present bill, it will be of tenfold force against any

Reform Bill proposed by you. For this bill is the work of men who are

Reformers from conscientious conviction, of men, some of whom were

Reformers when Reformer was a name of reproach, of men, all of whom were

Reformers before the nation had begun to demand Reform in imperative and

menacing tones. But you are notoriously Reformers merely from fear. You

are Reformers under duress. If a concession is to be made to the public

importunity, you can hardly deny that it will be made with more grace

and dignity by Lord Grey than by you.

Then you complain of the anomalies of the bill. One county, you say,

will have twelve members; and another county, which is larger and more

populous, will have only ten. Some towns, which are to have only one

member, are more considerable than other towns which are to have two. Do

those who make these objections, objections which by the by will be more

in place when the bill is in committee, seriously mean to say that a

Tory Reform Bill will leave no anomalies in the representative system?

For my own part, I trouble myself not at all about anomalies, considered

merely as anomalies. I would not take the trouble of lifting up my hand

to get rid of an anomaly that was not also a grievance. But if gentlemen

have such a horror of anomalies, it is strange that they should so long

have persisted in upholding a system made up of anomalies far greater

than any that can be found in this bill (a cry of "No!"). Yes; far

greater. Answer me, if you can; but do not interrupt me. On this point,

indeed, it is much easier to interrupt than to answer. For who can

answer plain arithmetical demonstration? Under the present system,

Manchester, with two hundred thousand inhabitants, has no members. Old

Sarum, with no inhabitants, has two members. Find me such an anomaly in

the schedules which are now on the table. But is it possible that you,

that Tories, can seriously mean to adopt the only plan which can remove

all anomalies from the representative system? Are you prepared to

have, after every decennial census, a new distribution of members

among electoral districts? Is your plan of Reform that which Mr Canning

satirised as the most crazy of all the projects of the disciples of Tom

Paine? Do you really mean

"That each fair burgh, numerically free,

Shall choose its members by the rule of three?"

If not, let us hear no more of the anomalies of the Reform Bill.

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