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NOTES AND QUERIES:

A MEDIUM OF INTER-COMMUNICATION FOR LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES,

GENEALOGISTS, ETC.

"When found, make a note of."--Captain Cuttle.

Vol. IV.--No. 92. Saturday, August 2. 1851

Price Threepence. Stamped Edition, 4_d._

CONTENTS.

Page

NOTES:--

Proverbial Philosophy 81

Paraphrase on the 137th Psalm by Churchill 82

On the Description of the Medicean Venus in Childe

Harold 83

Minor Notes:--On the Word "raised" as used by the

Americans--Contradiction: D'Israeli and Hume--A Ship's

Berth 83

QUERIES:--

John a Kent and John a Cumber, by J. Payne Collier 83

Swearing on the Horns at Highgate 84

Minor Queries:--Proverb of James I.--Mrs. Hutchinson

--Early Translation of Amadis de Gaule--Hogarth and

Cowper--Latin Translation of Butler's Analogy--"Non

quid responderent," &c.--"The Worm in the Bud of Youth,"

&c.--Queen Brunéhaut--Sculptured Stones in the North of

Scotland--Prophecies of Nostradamus--Quaker Expurgated

Bible--Salmon Fishery in the Thames--Cromwell Grants

of Land in Monaghan--Siege of Londonderry 85

MINOR QUERIES ANSWERED:--The Twentieth of the Thirty-nine

Articles--Exons of the Guard--Curious Monumental

Inscription--Meaning of Deal--La Mer des Histoires--"The

noiseless Foot of Time" 87

REPLIES:--

Passage in Virgil, by T. Henry, &c. 88

The Vine of St. Francis 89

"Jusjurandum per Canem;" "Sedem Animæ in Digitis

ponunt;" "Fiat Justitia, ruat Coelum" 90

Hugh Holland and his Works, by Bolton Corney 91

Lady Flora Hastings' Bequest 92

Replies to Minor Queries:--Coke and Cowper--Dunmore

Castle--Gooseberry Fool--Dryden and Oldham--Theobald

Anguilbert and Michael Scott--Penn Family--Bummaree--Miss

or Mistress--Book Plates 93

MISCELLANEOUS:--

Notes on Books, Sales, Catalogues, &c. 94

Books and Odd Volumes wanted 94

Notices to Correspondents 94

Advertisements 94

Notes.

PROVERBIAL PHILOSOPHY.

The following "sententious truths" are extracted from Bishop

Jewel's grand performance, _A Defense of the Apologie of the

Churche of Englande_, fol. 1571, a work as remarkable for "the

pomp and charms" of its eloquence, as for the profound erudition,

and the consummate ability, with which its "good doctrine" is

exhibited and enforced. In common, however, with the other

productions of this illustrious champion of the Reformation, it

has an additional and most attractive feature; one, indeed, which,

less or more, characterises all the literary achievements of the

gigantic geniuses of the Elizabethan period, the "very dust of

whose writings is gold."[1] The "Defense" abounds with _proverbial

folk-lore_ of the rarest sort; and this is so skilfully and

appositely introduced, that the subject-matter presents itself to

the reader's mind rather as a corollary, naturally deduced from a

self-evident proposition--for who would think for a moment of

questioning the truth of what has the semblance of a popular

adage?[2]--than as a nicely managed argument, which receives no

other help from the latter than that of illustration, employed for

the simple and single purpose, not of strengthening such argument,

but of rendering it comprehensible by the "meanest capacities."

[Footnote 1: Bentley, of Bp. Pearson, in _Dissert. on Phalaris._]

[Footnote 2: I have somewhere met with an amusing instance of

this. It seems that Dean Swift, with a party of friends, were

invited to view the garden of a gentleman, the walls of which were

laden with peaches of a most tempting ripeness, but which they

were strictly forbidden to touch. This injunction was followed,

until Swift ('twas like him) at length put forth his hand and

plucked, at the same time observing, with all becoming gravity,

"As my deeply venerated grandmother used to say,

'Never fail to pluck a peach,

Whene'er you find one in your reach.'"

'Twas enough. The authority of the adage was sufficient to

overrule every other obligation; and the rest of the company, much

to the disgust of the master of the garden, immediately proceeded,

with infinite gusto, to follow the Dean's example, not for a

moment doubting the propriety of the act. "The court awards it,

and the law doth give it."]

With this little bit of criticism, let me take the liberty of

recommending to such of your readers, and I trust they are many, who

seek for knowledge and wisdom in the richly-stored tomes, especially of

the divines, whose appearance imparted a further glory to the days of

our "good queen Bess," to note down the "wise saws and modern instances"

which lie scattered along their glowing periods, like "dew-drops on the

flow'ry lawn," for the purpose of transferring them to your very

appropriate pages.

The remark of our old lexicographer, Florio[3], that "daily both new

words are invented, and books still found that make a new supply of

old," may, in its latter part, very fitly be applied to our proverbial

philosophy; for, great as is the light which has already been thrown

upon the subject, it must be admitted that a more _systematic_

examination than they have yet received, of the works of the Elizabethan

writers, would elucidate it to an extent that can scarcely be

appreciated.

[Footnote 3: _Worlde of Wordes_, Ital. and Eng. Pr. 1598.]

With these observations I offer you my little string of pearls, under

the hope that row after row may be added to it.

"1. A contentious man wil never lacke wordes.

2. A Judge must walke with feete of lead.

3. An ignorante Judge was never indifferente.

4. A simple eie is soone beguiled.

5. By a smal draughte of sea-water, though maiste judge the

verdure of the whole.

6. Error can not be defended, but by error.

7. Evils must be cured by theire contraries.

8. He is very doumbe, and can speak but little, that cannot speake

ill.

9. He that cannot judge Golde by sounde, or in sight, yet may trie

it by the poise.

10. Il wil is ever plentiful of il woordes.

11. In the fairest rose thou maiste soonest finde a canker.

12. It is a desperate cause, that with woordes and eloquence maie

not be smoothed.

13. It is very course woulle that will take no colour.

14. Let Reason leade thee; let Authoritie move thee; let Truthe

enforce thee.

15. Of an Impossibilitie yee maie conclude what yee liste.

16. Oftentimes he is hardiest man to speake, that hathe leaste to

saie.

17. One demanded this question of Zoilus the Railer: Why takest

thou sutche pleasure in speaking il? Zoilus made answere, Bicause,

whereas I woulde doo it, I am not hable.

18. Rashe judgemente argueth somme folie.

19. The Heares of a mannes Bearde, or Heade, never ware white al

togeather.

20. The mouthe which speaketh untruth killeth the soule.

21. The report of an enimie maketh no proufe.

22. The slowe paced horses kepe backe the chariot.

23. The Truthe wilbe hable evermore to beare it selfe.

24. To mainteine a fault knowne, is a double faulte.

25. To spende woordes without cause, is affliction of the sprite,

and losse of time.

26. Vesselles never geve so great a sounde, as when they be

emptie.

27. Untruthe cannot be shielded, but by untruthe.

28. Where the woulfe is broken in, it is beste for the poor sheepe

to breake out."

It is as well to remark that the above aphorisms are contained within

the first 365 pages of the "Defense." Their orthography and punctuation

have been carefully preserved, as they ought always to be in such like

cases. Some of them I have not elsewhere met with, and others present

_variæ lectiones_ of an interesting character. They are all delivered in

a quaint simplicity of style, which admirably illustrates the general

tone of thought and language of the period.

COWGILL.

PARAPHRASE ON THE 137TH PSALM BY CHURCHILL.

A paraphrase of the 137th psalm by Charles Churchill may, perhaps, be

deemed not unworthy of a place amongst your Notes. It was originally

sent to Mrs. Baily of Cadbury, who had remonstrated with him on his

devoting his pen exclusively to satire. That lady gave them to my

maternal grandfather. Three lines of the last verse are lost.

R. C. H. H.

Thimbleby.

"Our instruments untun'd, unsung,

(Grief doth from musick fly)

Upon the willow trees were hung,

The trees that grew thereby.

"'Raise, raise your voice,' the victors say,

'Touch, touch the trembling string,

In Sion's manner briskly play,

In Sion's manner sing.'

"Our voice, alas! how should we raise

In Babylonish ground?

How should we sing Jehovah's praise

In Pagan fetters bound?

"If ever, much lov'd Sion, thou

Dost from my mind depart,

May my right hand no longer know

Soft musick's soothing art.

"If when in jocund songs I smile,

Thou'rt not my choicest theme,

May my tongue lose her wonted skill,

Nor drink at Siloa's stream.

"When Babylon's unhallowed host,

Flow'd in with hostile tide,

'Down, down with Sion to the dust,'

The sons of Edom cried.

"Hear, hear O Lord these sons of spight,

Nor let thy anger sleep,

Let their own wishes on them light,

In turn let Edom weep.

"Blest is the man whose fated host

Shall Babylon surround,

Who shall destroy her impious boast,

And raze her to the ground.

"Blest is he, whose devouring hand,"

*** *** ***

UPON THE DESCRIPTION OF THE MEDICEAN VENUS IN THE 4TH CANTO OF CHILDE

HAROLD, STANZAS LI. AND LII.

LI.

"Appear'dst thou not to Paris in this guise?

Or to more deeply blest Anchises? or,

In all thy perfect goddess-ship, when lies

Before thee thy own vanquished Lord of War?

And gazing in thy face as toward a star

Laid on thy lap, his eyes to thee upturn,

Feeding on thy sweet cheek![4] while thy lips are

With lava kisses melting while they burn,

Showered on his eyelids, brow, and mouth, as from an urn!

LII.

Glowing, and circumfused in speechless love,

Their full divinity inadequate

That feeling to express, or to improve,

The gods become as mortals, and man's fate

Has moments like their brightest ----" &c. &c.

[Footnote 4: To these beautiful and glowing lines the author has

appended the following:

"[Greek: Ophthalmous estian.]"

"Atque oculos pascat uterque suos."

OVID. _Amor._ lib. iii.]

It seems to me that the noble poet has condescended to avail himself of

a little _ruse_ in referring to this passage of Ovid. It would have been

perhaps more honest to have referred his readers to those magnificent

lines in the opening address to Venus, by Lucretius, "De Rerum Naturâ,"

beginning,--

"Æneadum genitrix, hominum divômque voluptas,

Alma Venus!" &c.

I subjoin the verses which Lord Byron _really_ had in mind when he wrote

the foregoing stanzas:

"Nam tu sola potes tranquillâ pace juvare

Mortaleis: quoniam belli fera moenera Mavors

Armipotens regit, _in gremium_ qui sæpe _tuum se_

Rejieit, æterno devictus volnere Amoris:

Atque _ita, suspiciens_ tereti cervice reposta

_Pascit amore avidos, inhians in te, Dea, visus;_

Eque tuo pendet resupini spiritus ore.

Hunc tu, Diva, tuo recubantem corpore sancto

_Circumfusa super_, suaveis ex ore loquelas

Funde, petens placidam Romanis, incluta, pacem."

Surely if the author of _Childe Harold_ were indebted to _any_ ancient

poet for some ideas embodied in the lines cited, it was to Lucretius and

not to Ovid that he should have owned the obligation.

A BORDERER.

Minor Notes.

_On the Word "raised" as used by the Americans._--An American, in answer

to an inquiry as to the place of his birth, says, "I was _raised_ in New

York," &c. Was it ever an English phrase? And if so, by what English

writer of celebrity was it ever used? Dr. Franklin, in a letter to John

Alleyne, Esq., Aug. 9, 1768, says:

"By these early marriages we are blest with more children; and

from the mode among us, founded in nature, of every mother

suckling and nursing her own child, more of them are _raised_."

JAMES CORNISH.

_Contradiction: D'Israeli and Hume._--

"Rousseau was remarkably trite in conversation."

_Essay on Literary Character_, vol. i. p. 213.

"Rousseau, in conversation, kindles often to a degree of heat

which looks like inspiration."

Quoted by D'Israeli in the same vol., p. 230.

JAMES CORNISH.

_A Ship's Berth._--Compilers of Dictionaries have attempted to show, but

I think without success, that this word has been derived from one of the

meanings of the verb _to bear_. I conjecture that it has been derived

from the Welsh word _porth_, a port or harbour. This word is under

certain circumstances written _borth_, according to the rules of Welsh

grammar. A ship's place in harbour (_borth_) is her _berth_. A sailor's

place in his ship is his _berth_.

S. S. S. (2)

Queries.

JOHN A KENT AND JOHN A CUMBER.

I am much obliged to you, Mr. Editor, for giving additional circulation

to my inquiry (through the medium of the _Athenæum_ of the 19th ult.)

regarding the two ancient popular wizards, John a Kent and John a

Cumber. I was aware, from a note received some time ago from my friend

the Rev. John Webb of Tretire, that there are various current traditions

in Monmouthshire, and that Coxe's history of that county contains some

information regarding one of these worthies. That fact has since been

repeated to me by a gentleman of Newport, who wrote in consequence of

what appeared in the _Athenæum_, and whose name I do not know that I am

at liberty to mention. I may, however, take this opportunity of thanking

him, as well as the transmitter of the curious particulars printed in

the _Athenæum_ of Saturday last.

One point I wish to ascertain is, whence John a Kent derived his

appellation? This question has not been at all answered. Has his name

any connexion, and what, with the village of Kentchurch, in

Monmouthshire; and why was the place called Kentchurch? To what saint is

the church dedicated? and has the name of that church anything to do

with the name of the saint? Anthony Munday (or Mundy), in his MS. play

(now in my hands by the favour of the Hon. Mr. Mostyn, and by the kind

interposition of Sir F. Madden), does not give the slightest clue to

the "birth, parentage, and education" of John a Kent. As to John a

Cumber, all we learn is, that he was a Scottish conjuror, employed by a

nobleman of the same country to counteract the proceedings of John a

Kent, who is represented as in the service of Sir Gosselin Denville, a

person who appears, from what Munday says, to have had power and

influence in South Wales.

Now, the name of Sir Gosselin Denville itself suggests a Query; because

I find in Johnson's _Lives of Highwayman, &c.,_ fol. 1734, p. 15. (I do

not of course refer to it as a book of any authority), that there was a

celebrated collector of tribute from travellers who bore that name and

rank. He, however, came from Yorkshire, and lived (according to the

narrative of Johnson, who had it most likely from Capt. A. Smith, whose

work I have not at hand) as long ago as the reign of Edward II. Let me

ask, therefore, whether there exist any tidings respecting such a person

as a native of Wales, and as the "master" (I use Munday's word) of John

a Kent?

But this is not the principal object of my present communication, which

relates to one of the heroines of Munday's drama--a daughter of

Llewellin, Prince of North Wales. To her the name of Sidanen is given,

and she is constantly spoken of as "the fair Sidanen," with the

additional information, in one place, that "sonnets" had been written in

her praise. Every person who sends a Query must plead ignorance, and

mine may be great as regards Welsh poetry, when I inquire, who was

Sidanen, and where has she been celebrated? By the second volume of

_Extracts from the Registers of the Stationers' Company_ (printed for

the Shakspeare Society), it is evident that she was well known about the

middle of the reign of Elizabeth, for on p. 94. I read the following

entry:--

"xiii Augusti [1580]

"Rich. Jones. Rd. of him for printinge a ballat of brittishe

Sidanen, applied by a courtier to the praise of the Queen."

British Sidanen probably meant Sidanen of Ancient Britain, or Wales, to

whom some unnamed and adulatory courtier had compared Queen Elizabeth. I

fancied also that I recollected, in Warner's _Albion's England_, some

allusion to Elizabeth under the name of Sidanen, but I cannot at present

find it.

As I have my pen in hand, may I add another word, quite upon a different

subject: it is upon the _nimium_ (pardon the word) _vexata questio_

about _esile_, as it is spelt in the first and second folios of

_Hamlet_. Have any of your correspondents, from MR. SINGER to MR.

CAMPKIN, with all their learning and ingenuity, been able at all to

settle the point? Surely, then, I cannot be blamed for not taking upon

me dogmatically to decide it eight years ago. I stated the two positions

assumed by adverse commentators, and what more could I do? What more

have your friends done? The principle I went upon was to make my notes

as short as possible; and after pages on pages have been employed in

your miscellany, it seems, in my humble judgment, that the case is not

one jot altered. _Esile_ may still either mean vinegar (eyesel) or the

river Eisell.

J. PAYNE COLLIER.

SWEARING ON THE HORNS AT HIGHGATE.

Can any of your readers give a satisfactory explanation of what Lord

Byron, in the LXXth stanza of the first canto of _Childe Harold's

Pilgrimage_, calls the _worship of the solemn horn_? The whole stanza is

as follows:

"Some o'er thy Thamis row the ribbon'd fair,

Others along the safer turnpike fly;

Some Richmond Hill ascend, some send to Ware,

And many to the steep of Highgate hie.

Ask ye, Boeotian shades! the reason why? (15)

'Tis to the worship of the solemn Horn,

Grasp'd in the holy hand of mystery,

In whose dread name both men and maids are sworn,

And consecrate the oath with draught and dance till morn!"

And the note (15) merely refers to the poet's writing from Thebes, the

capital of Boeotia.

I have a faint recollection of a circumstance which occurred on a

journey from York to town some forty years ago, and which I almost fancy

may throw some distant light on Lord B.'s horn. Among the inside

passengers by the stage was a middle-aged Yorkshireman, apparently a

small farmer, who kept the rest in a continual titter with his account

of various personal adventures, which he related in a style of quaint

and ludicrous simplicity; and as, in the course of conversation, it

appeared that he had never visited the metropolis before, it was

suggested by a couple of wags, that on the arrival of the coach at

Highgate he should be invited "to make himself free of the Horns."

Accordingly, when in due time the vehicle halted at the above-mentioned

place, and the inside passengers, with the exception of York, had

quitted it, an ostler, having received his cue, appeared at the door

with a pole, to which we attached a pair of gilded ram's horns; and

inquired if the "genelman" from Yorkshire, who was on his first visit to

London, wished to obtain his freedom by swearing on the horns, or would

rather forego the ceremony by a payment of the customary fee. The

Yorkshireman was evidently taken aback by the unexpected question; but,

after a moment's hesitation, intimated that he preferred the horns to

forking out the cash. He was thereupon directed with mock solemnity to

place his right hand upon the horns, and to follow the ostler in

reciting a ridiculous formula; which, if I remember right, consisted in

his vowing, under certain penalties, to prefer wine to water, roast beef

and ale to a dry crust and water gruel, the daughter to the mother, the

sister to the brother, laughing to crying, and songs and glees to

requiems and psalms, &c.

Can you then oblige me with any information respecting the worship of

the solemn horn alluded to by Lord Byron; and, secondly, with any

account respecting the solemn farce of swearing in strangers on the

horns when reaching Highgate on their first visit to the metropolis,

which farce I presume has long since been exploded by the introduction

of the railway.

KEWENSIS.

[Moore, in his edition of Byron's _Works_, has the following note

on this passage:--"Lord Byron alludes to a ridiculous custom which

formerly prevailed at the public-houses in Highgate, of

administering a burlesque oath to all travellers of the middling

rank who stopped there. The party was sworn on a pair of horns,

fastened, 'never to kiss the maid when he could kiss the mistress;

never to eat brown bread when he could get white; never to drink

small beer when he could get strong;' with many other injunctions

of the like kind, to all which was added the saving clause,

'unless you like it best.'" Our correspondent, W. S. GIBSON, Esq.,

in his _Prize Essay on the History and Antiquities of Highgate_,

has preserved some curious notices of this burlesque oath. He

says, "All attempts to trace the once prevalent, but now obsolete,

custom of 'swearing at Highgate' to any really probable source

have proved unavailing, and the custom has fallen into disuse. The

early identity of the site of the present hamlet with the ancient

forest, and the vicinity of Highgate to a park or chase, naturally

suggests the possible connexion of these trophies with huntsmen

and their horns; and it is not difficult to perceive that the

spoils and emblems of the chase, and the hunter's joyous horn, may

in time have acquired the character of household gods, and at

length, become like the sword of the warrior, a sacred emblem upon

which vows were taken, and the most binding engagements made. It

is, however, less difficult to imagine the reality of such an

origin, than to account for the strange degeneracy exhibited in

the modern aspect of the custom. 'Swearing on the horns' was an

observance at all events more than a century old; for a song which

embodied a close paraphrase of the oath, according to the best

authorised version yet extant, was introduced in a London

pantomime at the Haymarket Theatre in the year 1742."]

Minor Queries.

42. _Proverb of James I._--In the _Miscellaneous State Papers_

(published 1778), vol. i. p. 462., we find Steenie (the Duke of

Buckingham) writing to his royal master as follows:--

"Give my leave here to use your own proverb,--_For this the devil

cone me no thanks._"

At the risk of being thought very dull, I ask, what is _cone_, and what

is the meaning of the proverb? James was no _ignoramus_, after all.

VARRO.

43. _Mrs. Hutchinson._--What became of the celebrated Lucy Hutchinson,

who wrote the memoirs of her husband--where did she die? and from whence

is all the information that can be got about her, subsequently to her

autobiography, to be obtained?

M.

44. _Amadis de Gaule, Early Translation of._--I have lately purchased a

black-letter volume, dated 1595. The first part has no title, but the

second is called,--

"The Second Booke of Amadis de Gaule, containing the description,

wonders, and conquest of the Firme-Island. The triumphes and

troubles of Amadis. His manifold victories obtained, and sundry

services done for King Lisuart. The kinges ingratitude, and first

occasion of those broils and mortal wars, that no small time

continued between him and Amadis. Englished by L. P. London:

Printed for C. Burbie, and are to be sold at his shop at the Royal

Exchange, 1595."

The Epistle Dedicatory to "Master Walter Borough" is signed "Lazarus

Pyott," which is perhaps an assumed name; and, if I mistake not, I have

seen it assigned to some known writer of the time. As I do not find this

work noticed by Lowndes, perhaps MR. COLLIER or some of your readers

would kindly give me some information respecting its rarity, &c.

J. M. S.

45. _Hogarth and Cowper._--Which preceded the other, and who was the

greater artist, Hogarth or Cowper, in the portrait and description of

the stately and antiquated lady going to church on the winter's morning

with her boy, who--

"Carries her Bible, tuck'd beneath his arm,

And hides his hands to keep his fingers warm?"

JAMES CORNISH.

46. _Latin Translation of Butler's Analogy._--In Bartlett's _Life of

Bishop Butler_ mention is made (p. 62.), on the authority of a late Dean

of Salisbury (Dr. Pearson), of a translation of _The Analogy_ into

Latin, which had been executed with a view to its publication in

Germany, and had been submitted for revision to Professor Porson.

Was this translation ever published or is anything now known of it?

THOS. MCCALMONT.

Highfield, near Southampton, July 22. 1851.

47. "_Non quid responderent_," _&c._--In the Life of Bishop Jewel

prefixed to the edition of his works, 1611, §24., there occurs a

sentence attributed to _Cicero in Verrem 3._:

"Like Verres in Tully, _Non quid responderent, sed quemadmodum non

responderent laborabant_."

But are the words to be found in _Cicero_ at all? They give no bad

representation of what is called _fencing_, while unwillingly subjected

to an examination; and the true authorship would oblige

NOVUS.

48. "_The Worm in the Bud of Youth_," _&c._--With whom did the following

idea originate, and where are the words to be found?

"The worm is in the bud of youth, and in the root of age."

Can any similar expression be adduced from the ancient classics?

R. VINCENT

49. _Queen Brunéhaut._--I read in a French book of travels that the

abbey of Saint Martin's, at Autun, contained the tomb of Queen

Brunéhaut, upon which was engraved the following inscription:

"Ci-gît la Reine Brunéhaut,

A qui le Saint Pape Gregoire

Donna des éloges de gloire,

Qui mettent sa vertu bien haut.

Sa piété pour les saints mystères

Lui fit fonder trois monastères,

Sous la règle de Saint Benoît:

Saint Martin, Saint Jean, Saint Andoche,

Sont trois saints lieux où l'on connoît

Qu'elle est exempte de reproche."

1. Who was the Saint Gregory mentioned in this inscription? I believe

there can be little doubt that it was Pope Gregory I., commonly known as

Gregory the Great, and the cotemporary of Queen Brunéhaut. The only

other Pope of that name, that has been canonized, is Gregory VII., the

famous Hildebrand; but as his canonization did not take place till the

close of the last century (700 years after his death), an inscription,

which, from its obsolete rhymes of "Benoît" and "connoît," bears

internal evidence of having been made in the sixteenth or seventeenth

century, could not have applied to him the epithet _Saint_.

2. Brunéhaut having been one of the most profligate queens that ever sat

upon a throne, and Gregory the Great one of the most virtuous Popes that

have shed lustre on the tiara, a second Query presents itself:--Is it

possible that such a Pope could have degraded himself and his office by

eulogising such a queen? The bare idea is at variance with the known

character of that Pope; and the imputation, if substantiated, would

materially detract from his established reputation for piety and wisdom.

3. Is there any passage in the writings of Gregory the Great that can be

cited in support of the allegations of this inscription?

HENRY H. BREEN.

St. Lucia, June, 1851.

50. _Sculptured Stones in the North of Scotland._--Some time ago Patrick

Chalmers, Esq., of Auldbar, in the county of Forfar, obtained drawings

of all the sculptured stone obelisks in Angus, and got them lithographed

for the members of the Bannatyne Club. The work has excited considerable

attention among historical students in this country as well as abroad,

and certainly has laid a foundation for correct comparison of these with

other similar remains of a symbolical nature in other parts of the

country. In Aberdeenshire there is a considerable number of these

obelisks, which, either from the more primitive state of the people, or

the hardness of the granite, are much less elaborate than those in

Angus. None, however, can exceed the obelisks in Easter Ross for beauty

of execution. It is singular that no monument of this class has been

found south of the Forth. The Spalding Club (Aberdeen) proposes to

obtain drawings of all the stones of this description in the North of

Scotland; and the artist who depicted the Angus stones so accurately and

well for Mr. Chalmers has commenced his labours. Circulars have been

sent to the clergy of about 240 parishes in the North, asking for

information as to the locality of any sculptured stones in their

districts, but as yet answers have been obtained from only about 150. It

is probable that where no return has been made, there is no stone of the

description alluded to; but it would be desirable to know that the

Spalding Club had exhausted the matter.

ABERDONIENSIS.

51. _Prophecies of Nostradamus._--In a little work I am meditating on

the subject of English Popular Prophecies, I shall have occasion to

introduce a notice of this celebrated astrologer, whose successful

prediction of the Great Rebellion, and consequent English popularity,

almost entitle him to a place among our native vaticinating worthies.

The curious prefiguration of the fate of Charles I. stands thus in the

original edition of the _Prophesies_: Lyons, 1572, under the head, "A

mes Imprimeurs de Hongrie:"

"Senat de Londres mettront à mal leur Roy."

In the only other edition to which I have the opportunity of referring,

London, 1672, "Translated and commented upon by Theophilus de

Garencieres," it is much amplified:

"XLIX.

"Gand et Bruxelles marcheront contra Anvers.

Senat de Londres mettront _à mort_ leur Roy.

Le sel et vin luy seront à l'envers

Pour eux avoir le Regne or desseroy."

The more literal accuracy of this version, and the number of the

quatrain (interpreted by the commentator to refer to the year of

Charles's death), induce doubts as to its authenticity. Collections of

early editions of Nostradamus are not of frequent occurrence in England:

but I am told that a fine series exists in the "Bibliothèque du Roi,"

and as the subject is interesting, some one, perhaps, out of the many

readers of "NOTES AND QUERIES" who will visit Paris this holiday time

may be induced to examine them, and make a note of the _earliest_

edition in which the latter form of the prediction occurs.

SPERIEND.

52. _Quaker Expurgated Bible._--In an extremely curious and interesting

volume entitled _Quakerism, or the Story of my Life_, I meet with the

following passage, p. 386.:

"About four years ago, an English Friend waited on me, to request

me to enter my name as a subscriber to an edition of the Bible,

which a Committee of Friends were intending to publish. The

printed prospectus stated that the work was designed to be one

suited for daily perusal in Friends' families; that from it would

be carefully excluded every passage that was indelicate, and unfit

for reading aloud; and also those portions which might be called

dangerous, which it was possible the unlearned and unstable might

wrest to their own destruction."

Can any of your readers tell whether this expurgated Bible was ever

published, and where it is to be procured?

A copy of the prospectus alluded to would also be very acceptable.

T.

53. _Salmon Fishery in the Thames._--This was once of great importance

to the inhabitants of the villages upon the banks of the Thames, who

appear to have had each their assigned bounds for their fishery. In the

Churchwardens' Book of Wandsworth, under date 1580, is the following

entry:

"M.D. that this yere in so[=m]er the fishinge Rome of Wandesworthe

was by certen of Putney denyed, and long sute before my L. Mayor

of London continued, and at the last, accordinge to Right,

restored by the Lord Mayor and the Councell of London. And in this

so[=m]er the fysshers of Wandesworthe tooke betweene Monday and

Saturday seven score salmons in the same fishinge, to the gret

honor of God."

I have heard my mother say, that Thames salmon was plentiful when she

was a younger woman, and that it was the most esteemed of any. She died

recently, aged eighty-nine.

Shall we ever have Thames salmon again?

R. J. R.

54. _Cromwell Grants of Land in Monaghan._--Are there any records, and

where, of grants of land in the county of Monaghan, Ireland, as made by

Cromwell?

E. A.

55. _Siege of Londonderry._--Are there any details of the siege of

Londonderry, particularly as to the names of officers engaged on the

Protestant side, other than those to be found in Walker, Mackensie, or

Graham's account of it?

E. A.

Minor Queries Answered.

_The Twentieth of the Thirty-nine Articles._--In a note to a work

entitled _Sketches of the History of Man_, Dublin, 1779, at vol. i. p.

104. I observe the following statement:

"In the Act 13th of Elizabeth, anno 1571, confirming the

Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England, these Articles are

not engrossed, but referred to as comprised in a printed book,

intitled 'Articles agreed to by the whole Clergy in Convocation

holden at London, 1562.' The forged clause is, 'The Church has

power to decree Rites and Ceremonies, and authority in

Controversies of Faith.' That clause is not in the Articles

referred to; nor the slightest hint of any authority with respect

to matters of faith. In the same year, 1571, the Articles were

printed both in Latin and English, precisely as in the year 1562.

But soon after came out spurious editions, in which the said

clause was foisted into the Twentieth Article, and continues so to

this day," &c.

This is a grave charge. Is it a true one? I have not at hand the

authorities by which to examine it, and therefore seek an answer from

some of your readers who may be able to give it. My question refers to

the imputation of a clause having been foisted into our Articles of

Faith by a forgery, and still continuing in them; not to the truth of

any part of our Articles as they now stand. To this there is sufficient

testimony.

CM.

London, July 25. 1851.

[The following note from p. 131. of Mr. Hardwick's recently

published _History of the Articles_ will furnish a reply to this

Query:--

"He (Laud) was accused of forging the contested clause in Art. XX.

And after appealing to four printed copies of the Articles, one of

them as early as 1563, and all containing the passage which the

Puritans disliked, he added, 'I shall make it yet plainer: for it

is not fit concerning an Article of Religion, and an Article of

such consequence for the order, truth, and peace of the Church,

you should rely upon my copies, be they never so many or never so

ancient. Therefore I sent _to the public records in my office, and

here under my officer's hand, who is public notary, is returned to

me the Twentieth Article with this affirmative clause in it, and

there is also the whole body of the Articles to be

seen.'_--_Remains_, ii. 83. (quoted by Bennet, 166.) The copy thus

taken before the destruction of the records is said to be still

extant; Bennet made use of it, and has printed it in his _Essay_,

167-169."]

_Exons of the Guard._--Can any of your readers inform me what are the

duties of these officers, and the derivation of their title? I find, in

the papers describing her Majesty's state ball, the following: "the

exons or capitaines exempts _de la garde du corps;_" but that does not

throw much light upon the subject.

E. N. W.

Southwark.

[The name of _Exempts_ or _Exons_ is manifestly borrowed from that

of the officers in the old French _Garde du Corps_, who were

styled in their commissions _Capitaines Exempts des Gardes du

Corps_. Richelet describes the _Exempt_ as the officer who

commanded in the absence of the Lieutenant or Ensign, and who had

charge of the night watch. In both cases, the duties of the

English and French officers are completely parallel.]

_Curious Monumental Inscription: "Quos Anguis tristi."_--Have any of

your readers seen Latin verses constructed in the following curious

manner? I copied these many years ago from an old magazine:--

"Qu an tris di c vul stra

os guis ti ro um nere vit,

H san Chris mi t mu la

Quos anguis tristi diro cum vulnere stravit,

Hos sanguis Christi miro tum munere lavit."

J. O. B.

[The inscription quoted by our correspondent has been preserved by

Stow, in his _Survey of London_, who, describing the monuments in

the church of St. Anne in the Willows, says (p. 115. ed. 1842),

"John Herenden, mercer, esquire, 1572; these verses on an old

stone."]

_Meaning of "Deal."_--I shall feel greatly obliged to any of the readers

of your entertaining and instructive miscellany, if they can explain the

meaning of the word _deal_, as used in Exod. xxix. 40. A tenth of flour

is the verbal rendering of the Hebrew, the Septuagint, and the Vulgate.

It was introduced by Coverdale and Tyndale, and is, I believe, in all

our English translations except the Puritan or Genevan, which has "a

tenth part;" and Mr John Ray of Glasgow, in his revised translation, who

renders the word "the tenth of an ephah." Is this use of the word _deal_

noticed in any dictionary?

GEORGE OFFOR.

Hackney, July 13. 1851.

[The word "_deal_" in the passage referred to by our correspondent

clearly signifies "_part_," and corresponds with the German

"_theil_." It is from the A-S.; and Chaucer uses the phrases

"never a _del_" and "every _del_," for "never a bit" and "every

bit." In the _Vision of Piers Ploughman_ we have a nearly parallel

phrase to that used in our Bibles:

"That hevedes of holy church ben That han hir wil here Withouten

travaille _the tithe deel_ That trewe men biswynken."

L. 10571. _et seq._, ed. Wright.]

_La Mer des Histoires._--Who is the author of _La Mer des Histoires_? I

have seen the first volume in large folio; the type and paper are

beautiful, the capital letters very fine. It is stated in the preface to

be a translation from the Latin of _Rudimentum Noviciorum_, with the

addition of the French Chronicles, and made at the instance of André de

la Haye, Seigneur de Chaumot, Paymaster of Sens. It is printed at Paris

in the month of July, 1448, by Pierre le Rouge. In how many volumes is

the work comprised? Is it very scarce?

R. C. H. H.

[Greswell, in his _Annals of Parisian Typography_, p. 307., says,

"The designation _La Mer des Histoires_ seems, as a popular one,

to have been given to French chronicles of various descriptions.

Two impressions thus entitled appeared Parisiis, post 1500, viz.,

'_Mer des Histoires et Chroniques de France_: extrait en partis de

tous les anciens chroniquers, &c. jusqu' au temps de Francois I.,'

2 voll. fol. Galliot du Pres, 1514, 16; and more especially _'La

Mer des Hystoires et Croniques de France_: Extraict en partie de

tous les anciens croniquers,' 4 voll. fol.--'Le _premier_ volume,'

Galliot du pre, 1517; 'Le _second_ volume,' M. le Noir, 1517; 'Le

_tiers_ volume,' sine anno et impressoris nomine; 'Le _quatriesme_

liure,' Par. 1518. Panzer says that both these chronicles, of

which the latter seems to be an improved edition of the former,

are said to have been compiled by Johannes Descourtils, the French

king's historiographer."]

_"The noiseless Foot of Time."_--Not having by me at present the means

of ascertaining, will some one kindly inform me where the above words

are to be found in Shakspeare, giving me the exact reference?

R. VINCENT.

["Let's take the instant by the forward top;

For we are old, and on our quick'st decrees

The inaudible and noiseless foot of time

Steals ere we can effect them."

_All's Well that ends Well_, Act V. Sc. 3.]

Replies.

PASSAGE IN VIRGIL.

(Vol. iv., p. 24.)

Your correspondent ERYX inquires, in your paper of July 12, whether

Servius's interpretation of

"Viridesque secant placido æquore silvas."

Virg. _Æn._ viii. 96.

be correct. I beg to reply that it is not. The interpretations of

Servius are almost invariably incorrect; Servius was a very illiterate,

ignorant, and narrow-minded man, and totally unable to understand the

author whom he attempted to illustrate. His comments on Virgil resemble

those which we might expect a hedge schoolmaster in Yorkshire now to

make upon Milton. These comments, which are only valuable on account of

the mythological traditions which are preserved in them, have been very

injurious to the right understanding of Virgil.

The meaning of the passage in question is, that the Æneadæ row up the

river among the green woods, or (literally) "secant silvas," _travel the

woods_, "placido æquore," _on the calm surface of the water_, _i. e._ by

rowing up the placid stream of the river. This, and not that assigned by

Servius following Terentienus, is the true meaning. 1st. Because

_secare_ with the objective case means constantly in Virgil to _travel

along_. Compare "viam secat ad naves," _Æn._ vi. 902.; "secuit sub

nubibus arcum," v. 658., &c. 2ndly. Because the Tiber is described only

as _placid_, not as _clear_; and as appears from _Æn._ vii. 31., was

actually _very muddy_, "multa flavus arena." The immediately preceding

words, "variisque teguntur arboribus," have been pronounced by a very

learned critic (one who has often deserved well of Virgil) to be _idle,

otiosa_. (See Wagner ad _Æn._ i. 678.) And his opinion has been

sanctioned by the usually judicious Forbiger. But they are not idle; on

the contrary, they are necessary to convey the idea that the Æneadæ

passed up the river _under the shade of the trees_; and so are

supplemental to the statement contained in the words cited by your

correspondent, which inform us only that they went up the river. Hence a

confirmation of the correctness of the received interpretation.

JAMES HENRY.

34. Westland Row, Dublin, July 14. 1851.

Your correspondent ERYX wishes to know, whether in the passage (_Æneid_,

viii. 96.)--

"Viridesque secant placido æquore silvas,"

the word _secant_ can legitimately convey the same idea that is

expressed in Tennyson's lines--

---- "my shallop ... clove

The citron shadows in the blue."

There can be little doubt that this well-known passage in the _Æneid_ is

the _original_ of Tennyson's image; that, in fact, it is an excusable

plagiarism on the part of the latter, who, in introducing, his image,

has, I think, missed the appropriateness, and therefore increased

beauty, belonging to it in the original passage of Virgil.

When Æneas is journeying up the Tiber to visit Evander, the river, in

order to lessen his labours--

"refluens ... substitit unda;"

but notwithstanding this, the journey was arduous as is shown in the

_whole_ of the three lines 94-96.

"Olli remigio noctemque diemque fatigant,

Et longos superant flexes, variisque teguntur

Arboribus, viridesque secant pacido æquore silvas."

That is to say, "They labour at the oar till night is wearied out, and

day also is obliged to give place in its turn; they master one by one

the long serpentine bends of the river, and, though covered and inclosed

by the varied foliage above them, they cut their way through the

opposing woods, which lie, as it were, in their path in the shadowy

surface of the clear, still water."

The word _placido_ is surely sufficient to prevent any one falling into

the common-place interpretation alluded to by your correspondent as the

one "usually given."

H. C. K.

---- Rectory, Hereford, July 14.

THE VINE OF ST. FRANCIS.

(Vol. iii., p. 502.)

I feel much obliged for the information afforded by your Dutch

correspondent. When I sent you my Query on the subject more than a year

ago, I wrote principally from memory; but as I have now the work in

question lying beside me as I write, and as it seems to be rarer and

less known than I had imagined, you will perhaps find place for a more

minute description of it.

_The Vine of St. Francis_ is a folio volume, containing 418 numbered

leaves, a "Prologhe" of one leaf (next to the title-page), and a "Tafel

v[=a] dit boeck" at the end, of five leaves and a half unnumbered.

The title-page contains a full-length picture of the saint, with a

nimbus round his head, the knotted cord round his waist, and his palms

extended, displaying the sacred stigmata. Above the picture is the title

in red and black. I have written in Italics the words printed in red:

"_Den_ wÿngaert v[=a] _Sinte_ Franciscus _vol_ schoonre

_historien_ legenden ende _duechdelÿcke_ leer[=e]nghen allen

_menschen_ seer profÿtelÿch."

And under the picture "Cum _gratia_ et _privilegio_." On the back of the

title-page is printed as follows:--

"Dit is die generael tafel v[=a] dese wÿngaert dwelcke ghdeylt is

in drie boecken.

¶ Dat eerste boeck inhout

Sinte Franciscus grote legende

Sinte Franciscus oude legende

Den aflaet van portiunkel

Sinte Franciscus souter.

¶ Dat ander boeck inhoude

De leg[=e]de v[=a] de .v. marte mind-brod's

De leg[=e]de v[=a] de seu[=e] mar. ooc mind'b.

Sinte bonauentura legende

Sinte lodewÿc biscop legende

Sinte anthonis v[=a] paduen legende

Sinte bernardÿns legende

Sinte clara legende

Sinte puo priesters legende

Sinte lodewÿc coninex legende

Sinte elzearius graue legende

Sinte elizabets legende.

¶ Dat derde boec inhout

Een tractaet v[=a] S. Franciscus oorden

Sinte Franciscus geselle leuen

Die geleerde e[=n] edele v[=a] S. Fr[=a]ciscus oorden

Dat getal der broeder[=e] e[=n] prouintien

De aflaet v[=a] rom[=e] mitt[=e] aflaet des oord[=e]s

De kal[=e]dier mitt[=e] feest[=e] des aflaets."

Under these tables of contents occur two stanzas, the first containing

five lines, the second containing seven lines. They commence:--

"¶ O salige wÿngaert seer diep gheplant

Groyende in duechden van vruchten playsant," &c.

The preface to the _Grote Legende_ informs us that it is Saint

Bonaventura's life of Saint Francis, and mentions why it is called the

_Great Legend_. This life ends at folio 47.

The preface to the _Oude Legende_, which next follows, states that it is

"gathered from the writings of his companions and the chronicles of the

order of the Brothers Minor;" and the "Prologhe" (which succeeds the

preface) mentions--

"Die leg[=e]de van zÿn drie gesellen den spiegel der

volcom[=e]heyts der minderbroeders. Broeder Thomas oude legends

e[=n] d[=e] boeck der ghelÿcheden daer seer schoon besereu[=e] is.

Hoe ghelÿck dat dese heylighe man Franciscus: Christo Jhesu."

These lives, I suppose, are--that joint narrative compiled by three

intimate associates of the Saint, "zÿn drie gesellen," that composed by

Thomas of Celano; and the _Liber Conformitatum_.

The 39th chap. of this _Oude Legende_, folio ciii., relates, as the

preface says--

"¶ Hoe dat S. F. woude reysen in verre l[=a]den om dat vole te

bekeren e[=n] te vermaenen e[=n] v[=a] die grote tribulacie die hi

leet int solda[=e]s lant e[=n] hoe hi gerne martelaer hadde

geworden e[=n] hoe die broeders te Antiochien sÿn oord[=e]

a[=e]naemen."

On which Jewish-converting martyrdom-seeking journey Dr. Geddes (in his

curious little work on the _Romish Orders of Monks and Friars_, Lond.

1714) quaintly remarks:

"A Quaker's having gone from England to Rome to convert the pope

to his religion, is a mighty jest with some people, who are very

much edified with this story of Francis's going from Italy to

Egypt to convert the sultan, but these two adventures do to me

appear to be so much alike that I shall leave it to anatomists to

tell whether good wits that prompt others, have not their brains

either made of the same size, or much in the same posture."

The _Oude Legende_ ends folio 44. Next follows:

"¶ Die historie van d[=e] aflaet van Sinte Maria van d[=e]

enghelen diem[=e] porti[=u]kel heet,"

as the preface hath it. Some of your readers may have seen an

advertisement respecting a series of Franciscan works (to be published,

I think, by Richardson of Derby), entitled the _Portioncule Library_;

and seeing in the above table of contents "Die aflaet van Portiunkel,"

or the Indulgence of the _Portiunkel_, they may be at a loss to know its

meaning, so I shall quote a note from Mrs. Jameson's highly interesting

and valuable work on the _Monastic Orders_, which is to the purpose:

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