In Darlan this feeling was always strong. At the London Naval

Conference of 1930 he fought for parity with the British, but they

refused it to him, with a prescience blessed by the event. Suppose

the French had possessed as powerful a navy as the British when the

French Army fell and Darlan had commanded a force able to challenge

the British! After the Battle of Oran, July 3, 1940 when the British,

rightly suspecting the intentions of Darlan, attempted to disable the

French Fleet at Mers-el Kebir in order to prevent its falling into the

hands of the Germans, Darlan led the outcry against the “perfidious”

assault. The British are convinced that if ever the chance comes Darlan

will use every means in his power to injure them. Whatever his motives

may have been at the beginning for joining the capitulation, Darlan

like most of the men of Vichy has by now so compromised himself with

the French people that, as one French friend of mine expressed it: “If

Germany is defeated the best these men of Vichy could hope for would

be dishonorable, furtive retirement, but I think most of them would be

killed.”

And if Germany wins? For a while Darlan and his colleagues seemed to

feel confident that Hitler would be good to them, but now he exclaims:

“If we do not get an honorable peace, if France is cut up into many

departments and deprived of important overseas territories, and enters

diminished and bruised into the New Europe, it will not recover and

our children will live in the misery and hatred which breed war.”

These words of the appeaser indicate that he has already discerned the

outlines of the fate Hitler has in store for France; yet what is the

alternative for him and those like him now? Free Frenchmen declare the

alternative is death, as traitors.

Q. _And Laval?_

A. He is wounded but he is surely enjoying himself because for the

moment he can say, “I told you so.” He is probably the world’s most

delighted observer of the Battle of Russia. My last glimpse of him

was in Bordeaux at the restaurant “Chapon Fin” the night France

capitulated. The restaurant was crowded with the wealthy, the powerful,

the noted and notorious of France. The door was locked; without an

introduction from at least a Cabinet Minister or a millionaire nobody

could get in. That night ten thousand refugees were pounding for

admission to the restaurants of Bordeaux. Our Ambassador to Poland,

Tony Biddle, unmarked from his harrowing escape across Poland under

Luftwaffe machine-gun fire, and as fresh here at the collapse of the

world as though he were attending a bridge party at home, rescued us

and with a gesture which implied we were all ambassadors, requisitioned

a table for our party of American newspapermen. From one corner Otto of

Habsburg greeted us in his cordial democratic way. He was one victim

Hitler would have liked to catch. I looked around the grotesque dining

room, decorated as an artificial rock garden of papier-mâché and now

populated by as queer a throng as ever assembled to dine at the funeral

of a nation. Nearly every French politician I had ever seen was there,

most of them drinking copiously of the wine for which the city was

famous. There was no gloom perceptible; not among the Frenchmen. The

atmosphere was excited, laughter was frequent and high-pitched. Perhaps

it was bravery; the gay talk and conviviality sounded very courageous

or else very frivolous at that moment. Who could have realized that

there were Frenchmen there calculating to improve their careers by the

fall of their country? We American newspapermen looked more depressed

than any of the men whose motherland was about to be strangled.

Presently a waiter brought me a note from Laval inviting me to his

table. I had not seen him enter. There he was, swarthy, ebony-haired,

with his famous white string tie, presiding over a company of half

a dozen friends, all talking, as everybody in the Western World was

talking, about the fate of France.

Abruptly Laval asked, “What do you think, M. Knickerbocker?”

I spoke with all the emphasis I could muster and placing my fist on

the table to help express my sincerity talked directly to him: “Mr.

President, I think that if you give up, if you surrender, it will

mean the end of France as a nation, the end of France forever unless

another, outside power comes to your rescue. But Mr. President, if you

go on fighting, if you refuse to surrender, even if you have to go to

North Africa and base your government on Morocco, then France will live

because she and her friends will win this war, however long it may

take. But please believe me, Mr. President, when I say I know what the

Nazis mean to do to France, and I know because I have lived for nine

years in Germany as a professional observer and I know Adolf Hitler,

and the Nazis, and the German people better than I know any politician,

or political party, or people in the world, and I know they mean the

utter destruction of France.”

There was dead silence, and to my gratification everybody at the

table, all of Laval’s friends, nodded in agreement with me, but M.

Laval himself, grave as a judge, leaned back and with that inscrutable

Moorish air of his said, “No, M. Knickerbocker, you do not understand.

Hitler does not want to destroy France; Hitler only wants to destroy

the Soviet Union.”

That was Laval’s belief, and because this belief was shared by so many

other Frenchmen, it became one of the principal reasons for the fall of

France.

Whatever else one may think of him, Laval has guts and is no hypocrite.

He hates democracy and says so. He is out to promote the fortunes of

M. Laval and admits it. He calls himself a realist; and realistically

he long ago estimated the strength of France as inadequate to stand

up against Germany. He learned to hate Britain during those long years

when every French move to bolster their position against the doubly

powerful Reich was checked by an imbecile British Foreign Office which

continued to think that the balance of power required a stronger

Germany and a weaker France. So Laval’s belief in the desirability of a

Franco-German “understanding” was not born of defeat alone.

He was the first French Premier to visit Germany after the war. I was

in Berlin when he arrived in the autumn of 1931 with the aging and

feeble but still brilliant Briand, then Foreign Minister. Bruening was

Chancellor and that farsighted benevolent statesman, whom the Allies

could have helped suppress the growing menace of Hitler, wished to make

the visit the foundation for a new era of Franco-German friendship. How

futile his hopes were came to light as the train bearing the French

ministers rolled in. I was standing with a small crowd of Germans at

the foot of the steps of the Friedrichstrasse Bahnhof, and noticed

that the streets had been cleared and roped off all the way to the

Hotel Adlon. Masses of police manned the ropes but there was almost no

crowd to hold back. Around the station were about five hundred people.

I noticed they looked curiously alike, as though all from the same

neighborhood, the same class. Presently I saw a friend, a plain-clothes

man from Police Headquarters, all dressed up in his Sunday best, with

gloves and a derby hat and the inevitable big detective’s shoes. I

greeted him. He introduced his wife and children. A little surprised,

I asked if he were such a great advocate of Franco-German friendship

that he had brought his whole family to cheer the visitors from Paris.

“_Ja wohl!_” he replied. “Orders, you see. They sent us all down here.

Everybody here is from Police Headquarters, _mit Frau und Kinder_.

Nobody else; no outsiders. We get a day off for coming.” Sure enough,

that was the makeup of the entire crowd. They dutifully thronged around

the steps and shouted “_Hoch Frankreich!_” Laval and Briand then passed

through empty streets to the Hotel Adlon where another group of

policemen and their wives and children cried “_Hoch!_” again. And that

was the length and breadth and depth of Franco-German friendship.

Q. _Has Laval a chance to come back?_

A. Yes, if the Germans win he has the best of chances. Laval today is

the only master politician left in France; Pétain is senile; Darlan

is ward-heel size; none of the others in the Vichy camp is even that

large, and the politicians of the Republic are dead and buried. Laval

is the best-hated Frenchman alive; the shots fired into him by Colette

were cheered from one end of France to the other, but he is still the

only Frenchman capable of ruling France as a dictator.

He is much like Stalin, an Asiatic, with more than his share of the

Eastern blood of the Auvernacs. He has the psychology of the Oriental

and like Stalin he has the Oriental’s lack of human consideration. As

Stalin regards Russia without love, as an object, so Laval regards

France. He has few real friends but possesses a marvelous power of

extemporized comradeship and can talk the language of any man with whom

he converses, including, as one of his enemies suggested, “even an

honest man.” Once a friend of his exclaimed, “You ought to be dictator

of a South American Republic!” “How did you know?” asked Laval,

genuinely surprised. “Oh, just a joke,” answered the friend. “But no,”

said Laval, “I am amazed, because when I was a boy that was just what

I always dreamed of becoming--dictator of a South American state.”

Perhaps he may get his wish yet, as the malicious wits of the Riviera

have called Vichy France, “a banana republic without bananas.”

Laval’s hatred of England is extended now to America, because American

support upholds Britain, and Laval will never be safe until Britain

is defeated. He is still unwavering in his conviction that Germany

will win, but even if we entered the war and it became evident Germany

would lose, Laval cannot now change his position. He is one of those so

totally committed to the German cause that he stands or falls with it.

Q. _You have said that we Americans were very much like the French; now

in what way are we? Have we also traitors in our ranks?_

A. No, we have not, I am convinced, any traitors among our officers, as

the French had. There are many Nazi agents among us, and a few may have

penetrated to positions of some importance, but I do not believe they

could affect the issue of the war as they did in France. There are many

Communists as well among us, probably more than there are Nazis, and

we ought never to forget that whether they are native-born Americans

or not makes no difference. Nor does the fact that Soviet Russia is

momentarily engaged in fighting our enemy change the essential fact

that Communists cannot be loyal Americans. Their loyalty is to Moscow

alone, and if a change in Russia’s position should make it expedient

for the Kremlin to order American Communists to sabotage America’s war

effort, the order would be zealously obeyed.

Our chief danger of this sort lies in the wrongheaded activity of

our isolationists who, whether they wish it or not, serve the cause

of Hitler more effectively than all the paid agents of Germany and

Italy and Japan could do if their numbers were multiplied many times.

Consider carefully the account given you by my French friend of the

way the Germans appealed to Parisian conservative circles, and ask

yourself if their arguments do not sound remarkably like the speeches

of Lindbergh and Wheeler.

Treason can be difficult to define. I had a French friend, whom

I can call a friend no longer because he became one of the chief

collaborationists with the Germans. I think--I am not sure--but I

think we have no one like him in America, but he was so representative

of the group that betrayed France, that I want to quote a conversation

I had with him just before the war began. I said, “Jean, you seem to

believe profoundly that Germany is strong enough to win a war no matter

how France fights to prevent it; and you also seem to believe that the

German kind of National Socialism would be a good thing for the whole

continent, including France. Now what would you do, believing as you

do, if France were to be at war with Germany, and you thought defeat

was inevitable, and you foresaw a long and bloody conflict, and you

suddenly found yourself in possession of a military secret which would

end the war immediately in favor of Germany if the Germans knew it.

Would you give this decisive military secret to the Germans?” Jean

answered, “Yes, of course I would.” “But wouldn’t that be treason?” I

asked. “Not at all,” Jean answered. “It wouldn’t be treason to France;

it would only be a blow at what I consider the treasonable government

of the Republic.” Now I submit that even our rabid isolationists would

reject a position like Jean’s, but we ought nevertheless clearly to see

the fact that Lindbergh and Wheeler by their powerful discouragement of

the whole war effort of America are doing this country the same kind of

harm that came to France.

Q. _In what other ways do we compare with the French?_

A. It is astonishing to see how many points of similarity we can

discover, beginning with the well-known Maginot line complex which we

parallel with our Atlantic Ocean complex. I remember back in 1930 at

a cocktail party in Berlin a German Lieutenant Colonel remarked to me

about the Maginot line, which the French were just completing: “That

line of fortifications will be the death of France. If soldiers have

such an impregnable fortress to live in, they will never willingly

leave it to take the offensive, and without taking the offensive you

can’t win a war. The Maginot line will give the French Army a permanent

defense complex and out of its sense of security we will eventually

defeat it.” Our complacency behind the Atlantic Ocean, which we fondly

fancy could always protect us from attack, is precisely the same as

the French had. The French also were brought down by their skepticism;

they had ceased to have any faith in anything, whether the Republic, or

democracy, or God, just as millions of Americans lack faith in anything

and think it smart to deride any kind of ideals, particularly anything

so old-fashioned as sacrifice for one’s country.

The French had up to the bitter end, so little primitive, full-blooded

spirit that they neither sang on the way to battle nor cursed while in

action; they harbored no anger toward the enemy, no hatred for him, and

they had no will to kill. They were apologetic for being at war, until

catastrophe was upon them, and it was too late. Most Americans feel

apologetic about the war and behave as though they were not sure of the

rightness of our cause.

Another curious and not unimportant item of coincidence is that there

was a strong current of anti-British feeling in France at the beginning

of the war, just as there is here. In France it was grounded largely in

the argument, which had much truth in it, that Great Britain had been

largely responsible for the war by her shortsighted support of Germany

against France for so many years, and that the British would “fight

to the last Frenchman.” This latter argument seemed silly to me when

I first met it early in the Battle of France, at the front near Sedan

where I picked up a little printed leaflet in French, dropped by German

aviators.

It read:

“Where is Tommy? The units of the British army which had occupied

certain sectors of the Maginot line were immediately withdrawn after

the beginning of the German offensive. They were transported as

quickly as possible in the direction of the Channel. For political

reasons it was necessary to conceal this movement, so it was carried

out at night. Nevertheless the population of Lorraine could observe

easily enough that the English were retiring, and in various cities

and towns hostile demonstrations took place against them. Several

times the police and French troops had to intervene to calm the

crowds and suppress the demonstrations. _French Soldiers!_ You see

how the English are trying to get out just as they did in Norway.

_They are taking ‘English leave.’_ They are leaving you alone on the

battlefield. Are you stupid enough to die for those who are quitting

you to save their precious skins? You had better give the English the

answer they deserve for having betrayed you.”

Now there was not a word of truth in this propaganda about trouble

between British troops and French civilians, and I thought the leaflet

far too crude to have any effect, but I was mistaken; it corresponded

to the unreasoning feeling of many Frenchmen that the French Army

was bearing all the burden. They particularly resented the fact that

whereas at the beginning of the war the French mobilized all men from

twenty to forty-seven years old, the British at first mobilized only

those from twenty to twenty-five years old. The British Fleet, the

French knew theoretically, was just as important for beating Hitler as

the French Army, but the British Fleet was far away and its actions

were unobserved. Just so today in America we all know theoretically

that the presence of the British Fleet in the Atlantic is imperative

for our safety, but the British Fleet is far away, and so even when

we are sending supplies to the British Fleet and other arms standing

between us and our enemy, many Americans think of it as “aiding

Britain,” and feel quite unselfish about it.

A minor group in America also persists in blaming the British so

heavily for their now amply admitted and fully atoned faults of the

past, that some of them would almost rather see Munich revenged by

German troops in England than have America defend herself there.

Finally we have our anti-British Americans of Irish origin who

consider Oliver Cromwell more blameworthy than Hitler, although all

Irish-Americans are not so purblind by any means. Taking it all in

all, however, I should say that there is an even stronger anti-British

sentiment in America today than there was in France during the war, and

this when coupled to the broader anti-Europe feeling of a great many

Americans, increases the difficulty of our acting realistically against

a powerful enemy who is taking every advantage of these enfeebling

prejudices of ours.

Q. _You have named so many similarities between ourselves and the

French that it is discouraging indeed, but we have one undeniable

advantage of a large population, and we surely are not obsessed by our

birth rate._

A. It is true that we do not worry about our birth rate, although

perhaps we ought to, but we suffer just the same from something

very much like the French obsession with theirs. It was the French

preoccupation with their inferiority in numbers, and their falling

birth rate, which prevented them not merely from wasting lives, but

even from using them thriftily on the battlefield, and the result

was the debacle. During the Battle of France I seldom saw Colonel

Schieffer, in the French Ministry of Information, that he did not

exclaim, “We cannot bleed like this again. Twice in a generation is

too much. We have only twenty million Frenchmen. This time we must

make an end of the Boches so they can never empty our veins again.”

The Colonel, who was personally most warlike, was under the impression

we all had that the French Army was losing lives heavily, and he was

willing that it be done to prevent ever again such bloodshed in the

future, yet as a matter of fact, the impulse to save French lives had

already become so strong in the Army High Command that it governed all

great decisions and contributed seriously to the defeat.

Now despite the fact that we are a nation of 130,000,000 we are

obsessed to an equal degree with the fear of having to fight in large

numbers; we have what amounts to a phobia against sending an American

Expeditionary Force to Europe. We seem not to mind nearly so much the

idea of American boys in the Navy or the Air Force fighting and dying

abroad, but when it comes to the Army we recoil at the idea of an

A.E.F. Why the life of an infantryman should be more precious than that

of an aviator or sailor is not clear. The explanation of this attitude

must be found in the comparative numbers of men involved.

A.E.F. brings up the idea of millions of American boys laying down

their lives on the battlefield, and most Americans completely forget,

if they ever did know, that although we had 4,355,000 men mobilized

during the last war, the total number of them killed in action and died

of wounds received in action was 50,475. This is roughly one-half of

the number of persons killed by accident in the United States every

year. We nevertheless erected in every village and city of the land

large expensive monuments to our war dead, and the impression became

indelibly fixed in the American mind that we had lost millions, or

at any rate hundreds of thousands of dead. The vision of this mass

sacrifice of American youth is what moves the American people to reject

so violently the idea of an expeditionary force. We ought now to be

adult enough to see that our penurious attitude toward our precious

American blood reflects the same feeling as the French, with more

justification, had toward their birth rate, and that if persisted in,

this attitude will lead us to similar disaster.

Q. _Aren’t there any encouraging differences between ourselves and the

unfortunate French?_

A. I am glad to say there are, and enough, I devoutly hope, to save

us from their fate. We have a leader; the French had none. We are not

divided as badly as the French were divided. Despite the fierceness of

our political passions, it would be a very exceptional American indeed

who would say, “I’d rather have Hitler than Roosevelt,” as so many

Frenchmen used to say, “We’d rather have Hitler than Leon Blum.” We are

physically a healthier people than the French. There is hardly one of

the weaknesses now perceptible in the American people that would not be

swept away by the fact of our going to war, but there is hardly one of

them which can be removed by any other means.

The most encouraging difference between the French and American

democracies is the quality and character of our newspapers. American

newspapers bring to their readers today a greater volume of news,

of greater accuracy, than has ever been delivered to an audience of

newspaper readers in the history of the world. It has been my job for

nearly two decades to study the newspapers of a score of countries, not

superficially but with the businesslike object of gleaning news. I had

to read thirty-two German newspapers a day when I was correspondent

in Berlin; and a dozen or so daily in Paris. It is no exaggeration

to say that the reader of the _New York Times_, or the _New York

Herald-Tribune_, or the _Chicago Daily News_, or any one of half a

dozen of our great metropolitan dailies, has more detailed and true

information about what is going on in the world than if he were able

by magic to accumulate all the newspapers published everywhere else on

earth, and were able equally by magic to read them all in the original.

Often I am asked, “How can we know the truth? Everything is so

confusing. Aren’t we fed with propaganda?” The answer is you can know

the truth by reading your newspapers thoroughly and exercising common

sense in balancing the reports from the belligerent countries against

each other.

No war has ever been fought in such a blazing light of information.

Never has such a quantity of news been put before a people as we

Americans have before us at breakfast every day and from then on until

midnight. American newspapers are doing today the most superb job ever

done by daily journals. But that is not their chief merit. Their chief

merit is their honesty and incorruptibility and their sincere endeavor

to be fair and objective. These qualities have enabled the American

press, since the foundation of the United States, to be the equal in

importance to the executive or the legislative or the judicial branch

of government. It is the vigilant watchman over the functioning of the

other three branches of government.

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