Poor as the goods are, they are not so poor as the method of putting

them in the hands of the consumers. Since there is always a goods

shortage, the consumer is placed in the permanent position of a

supplicant, glad to get anything even if it is a substitute for a

substitute for the article he wants. Allocation of the scanty supplies

is made from the top down. The local community is not asked what it

needs. The Planners arbitrarily ship certain quantities of shoes, hoe

handles, and seed, and the recipients have learned to be grateful, no

matter if what they needed was kerosene, matches, and cloth.

Q. _But you said something about the monetary system, that it had

failed too. How can a monetary system fail in a completely planned

national economy?_

A. The monetary system under the Soviets seems just as difficult to

handle as it is in the capitalist system. The authorities incessantly

juggle wages against prices, raising the one, lowering the other,

inflating the currency, selling bonds and even lottery bonds, as

blatantly gambling as the old Louisiana lottery. Yet the answer never

seems to be achieved satisfactorily. Always the citizen’s purchasing

power is behind his needs. Fundamentally, of course, the answer is that

there is never enough of anything to go around.

Q. _But isn’t the answer to that the fact that the Soviet State is

taking away from the citizens today in order to invest in productive

industry from which the citizens will draw a dividend tomorrow? At

least I should have thought that was the theory._

A. That is the theory, but one of the tragic aspects of the epic

struggle of the Russian Bolsheviks to make their collectivist system

work is that their investments in factories and machinery wear out

almost as fast and sometimes faster than they can replace them and

build new ones. The bad workmanship of the buildings and the poor

quality and rough handling of the machines results in a speed of

deterioration far beyond the normal in the capitalist world. If they

had given their population slightly better food and living conditions

and had therefore been compelled to limit their investment in new

buildings and machines to something like a capitalist standard of new

investment, deterioration would probably have taken away more plant

than they could replace.

Q. _How do you explain such inefficiency and wastefulness?_

A. For all the reasons given before, and for another which I left for

a different category since it is, so to speak, historical, while these

reasons we have discussed are current. The historical fact of import at

least during the life of this generation is that the Bolsheviks twice

in twenty years exterminated their ablest people in the country, or

rather I should say, the Bolsheviks first killed off the ablest people

of old Russia and then Stalin killed off the ablest Bolsheviks. It has

been so long ago, and the popular interest and sympathy in the Soviet

experiment was at the time so great, that we have almost forgotten what

the Bolsheviks did to their own countrymen.

Their conviction was that they could not establish Communism, or

Socialism, without physically exterminating the persons who had

become, under capitalism, better off than the mass of the people.

They reasoned that no capitalist, and by that they meant any person

who lived a little better than the poorest member of the community,

would ever tolerate willingly the establishment of a Socialist State.

They believed all such people would attempt to wreck the new Socialist

economy. The professional revolutionaries had spent half their lives

attempting to wreck the capitalist system, and they attributed to the

capitalists a similar resolution.

In Germany, the Nazis succeeded in coercing the capitalists into

becoming useful members of the National Socialist Collective. In

Russia, the Bolsheviks set out to destroy the capitalists as a

class, or rather every human being who by his birth, or position, or

accomplishment, had become identified as an active member of the old

system. First, they killed off the aristocracy and landed proprietors,

numbering several hundred thousand, and including of course the

Czar and his family. Then they exterminated the industrialists, not

very numerous, because Russia was the least industrialized of the

great nations. Nevertheless they were important. With them a little

later were exterminated the managers, supervisors and technicians,

the scientists, the professional men, dentists, surgeons, lawyers,

teachers, and judges. These numbered a million or more.

By the time I got to Russia in 1925 all these were fully exterminated.

By extermination I mean just that. They were either shot, or sent

into exile in the Arctic or the deserts of Central Asia, or condemned

to penal labor under such conditions that they died within a few

years. They were nearly all killed. Only the most meager remnant

remained, a few accidents of survival. I shall never forget the man

who peddled cigarettes. I shared a house in Moscow with Theo Seibert,

correspondent of the _Hamburger Fremdenblatt_, today, alas, editor of

the _Voelkischer Beobachter_. Theo and I used to try to get the old man

to talk, but he was too frightened to make much sense. The baldheaded

trembling man who begged us to buy his cigarettes had been a Justice of

the Moscow Supreme Court! His survival was just an accident.

After this initial massacre the Bolsheviks let a pause ensue and

for several years no great killings took place, just the routine

score or so of executions per month. But when the Five-Year Plan was

inaugurated, the decision was made to exterminate the kulaks. A kulak

was the term applied originally to a peasant who had risen sufficiently

above his neighbors to employ labor. That made him an exploiter, a

person who lived from the surplus value produced by his hired hands.

The Bolsheviks, however, chose to amplify this category to include all

peasants who, even if they did not employ labor, had become in the

least degree more prosperous than their neighbors. This prosperity,

based for the most part upon the individual industry and sagacity

of the kulak, might consist in the possession of two cows to the

neighbor’s one. In any case the reasoning of the Bolsheviks was that

they could not afford to tolerate the existence of any peasant who,

forced to join a collective farm, would at the beginning have to live

worse than he had lived as an individual farmer.

Such peasants, the Bolsheviks reasoned, would be just as incorrigible

enemies to collectivism as the aristocrats and industrialists. They

had to die. They did die. This was the greatest Soviet mass slaughter,

because there were a great many more such peasants than there were

aristocrats, or industrialists, or intelligentsia. It took about two

years to do away with the kulaks. Tens of thousands of G.P.U. troops

and agents sought out every family of better-than-average peasants

throughout the entire Soviet Union, and forced them into boxcars

and herded them off to places of exile, down to Kazakstan or up to

Narimsky Krai, to places where it was too hot or too cold to live. It

is a conservative estimate to say that some 5,000,000 of these more

enterprising farm workers and their families died at once, or within a

few years.

This process destroyed what there was left of the originally

non-Communist party talent in Russia. You would have thought that this

ought to satisfy the Bolsheviks. It did, but it did not satisfy Stalin.

There was no more opposition to the Bolshevik program. There was not a

human being left in Russia who had any connection with the old regime.

Not in modern history has there been such a clean wiping of the slate.

The Bolsheviks were left not only as absolute masters, but containing

a country in which every living person was their hopeful or cowed

collaborator. Then came the fatal quarrel between Stalin and Trotzky.

Out of this quarrel came the great purges by Stalin which destroyed for

the second time within a generation the principal talent of Russia.

This may be regarded as the most fateful slaughter of all. Bolsheviks

could argue that the extermination of every vestige of Czarist Russia

could be justified on account of the inefficiency, inhumanity,

unproductivity of the old regime, and the fact that, according to

Bolshevik reasoning, members of the old regime would never cooperate

with the new. But now Stalin was destroying not the old, but the new

regime, all its talents, its best intellects, its best characters if

you like.

Beginning with the politicians, he killed off in the course of four

years of uninterrupted purges, the top fourth or fifth, to estimate it

conservatively, of the Party itself, of the Army, Navy, and Air Force

leaders and then of the new Bolshevik intelligentsia, the foremost

technicians, managers, supervisors, scientists. There is, of course,

enough youth among 200,000,000 for the nation to recover even after

such a purge. The youth whom Stalin spared have proved in battle how

boundless are the forces of Russia, the first country Hitler ever

tackled with lives to waste!

Q. _You have not made it clear, if the Soviet system is so brutal a

tyranny, how it is that the Red Army has been able to stand up so well

to the Germans._

A. The answer is that the Red Army has fought as Russians have always

fought under any regime, bravely, enduringly, stubbornly, gallantly.

Russians have always had to fight despite their government; as they did

in the last war, as they are doing in this war. The general distaste

of the outside world for the Bolshevik system led many to forget that

the Russian soldier retains in the Red Army all the martial virtues he

possessed in the past. And have we forgotten that the Imperial Army in

the last war held the Germans for three years? If the Red Army does as

well we will be eternally thankful. True, the Germans in the last war

had to divide their forces into two fronts, while today the Red Army

has to bear the shock of nearly the full force of the whole German land

forces. The task of the Red Army is accordingly heavier.

But our appraisal of the Red Army’s resistance has been strongly

influenced by an element which has colored and distorted our judgment

of the quality of any army which faces the Germans. That element is

our recollection of the collapse of the French Army, which was due to

a score of causes besides the excellence of the German Army. It was

so overwhelming, bewildering, and impressive that it gave rise to the

involuntary, subconscious feeling that the Germans were invincible.

Now when any troops stand up to the Germans we are inclined to judge it

a miracle of valor and military effectiveness. This is not to take away

one whit of the immense credit due the Russians for holding up Hitler’s

juggernaut but it is fair to point out that if we had not seen France

fall, if for example Germany had attacked Russia before attacking

France, everybody would have expected the Russians to put up just

about the resistance they have put up. After all, Russia is a nation

of double the population of Germany, with incomparably greater natural

resources, and with twenty-three years of unflagging preparation for

precisely this war. If there had been the exceptional virtue in the

Soviet collectivist system which is ascribed to it by its disciples in

America, it should not merely have stopped but should have defeated,

routed, and conquered the Germans.

Q. _Aside from the fact that everybody was influenced by the French

example, most military experts seem to have been deceived about the

fighting ability of the Red Army. Why was that?_

A. It seemed almost as though Stalin wanted the outside world to

think his army less strong than it was. None but the most acute of

professional observers, among them Colonel Faymonville, for years

American military attaché to Moscow, and now a member of the Allied

military mission there, had a correct view of the Red Army. Hitler for

the first time in his life admitted he had “had no idea” how strong the

Red Army was. No outsider was ever allowed to see more than fragments

of it. No newspaper correspondent, for example, ever put foot over the

threshold of a Red Army barracks. Maneuvers were nearly always carried

out in secret without the presence of military attachés. One almost had

the feeling that Stalin had deliberately arranged the initial debacle

of his attack on Finland in the first Soviet-Finnish war in order to

deceive the world into thinking his army inferior to its real strength.

Of course that makes no sense, and the fact was that Stalin had been

led to think he could walk over Finland with ease and hence had not

properly prepared his attack. Nevertheless the net effect of the first

Finnish war combined with the secrecy thrown about the Red Army was to

make even military attachés in observation posts around Russia believe

the Red Army extremely weak. There was always the greatest difficulty

in obtaining the most elementary facts about the Red Army. The Soviet

government published less about its military establishment than any

other great power. It kept concealed the very existence of important

armaments factories; it never published production figures in the arms

industry; it furnished the League of Nations less information about its

vast army than any other members of the League. The G.P.U. Terror made

it possible to envelop the Red Army in an impenetrable blanket which

even the Germans were not able to pierce.

This secrecy emphasized the surprise that many felt at the outbreak of

the war, when the Soviet economy was now indisputably revealed to have

been a totally one-purpose economy, for the single end of making war.

Every student of the Soviet Union had realized the great emphasis laid

upon national defense, but everyone had supposed that at the same time

the Soviet Planners were working primarily, if ineffectively, to create

a thousand-purpose economy for the satisfaction of the myriad needs of

the population. No one had divined what turned out to be the fact, that

this huge economy was being organized for nothing but fighting.

It proved effective, as was to be expected. A brutal, simplified

economy which ignores most of the people’s wants and devotes all its

energy and materials to preparing for war, is better able to prepare

and to make war than a more complete economy devoted to satisfying

its people’s peacetime needs. Sparta was stronger in battle than

Athens, but should we measure the value of a society by the efficiency

with which it makes war? If so, we ought to value the Nazis above

all others, since they are still leading in this activity. Hitler’s

society took Sparta as its model; Stalin’s took Spartacus. The Nazis

met their identical twin when they struck the Red Army in battle.

Hitler wishes us to believe he is crusading against a fundamentally

different regime in a “crusade for civilization.” We shall not be

deceived.

Q. _What would be the result if Stalin were really to try to hold out

indefinitely? Could he do so? Has he the resources in the Urals to

carry on there?_

A. He has almost everything he needs in the Urals except sufficient

oil. If he were cut off from oil in the Caucasus, he would have to

import supplies over the trans-Siberian, already overburdened. If he

really were determined to carry on in spite of all odds, and could make

Sverdlovsk or Cheliabinsk another Chungking, it would compel Hitler to

keep an important fraction of his total forces in action in Russia;

it would probably prevent Hitler from being able to attempt to invade

England; it would lead to a deadlock which could be turned into victory

by our intervention.

Q. _Would it be possible for us to supply the Russians with sufficient

to make up for their losses? Could we enable them to carry on?_

A. Our shipments to Russia are as important morally as materially;

indeed their token strength is greater than their real strength. We

shall never be able to make up for the territory Russia has lost to

the Germans--60 per cent of their steel supply, 45 per cent of their

manganese, 49 per cent of their tire production, and so on. Our

shipments will always be limited by the transportation facilities of

the trans-Siberian railway and the route through Iran, both of which

are long and time-consuming. Actually we can scarcely hope to get

enough American supplies in the hands of the Red Army to make much

real difference before next spring, no matter how hard we try, and

we ought to do our best. It is the publicly announced policy of both

Washington and London that Russia shall have priority on the vital

war materials. But everything is up to Stalin. If he wishes to quit

and announce that he had not received sufficient aid from Britain and

the United States, he will be able to do so any time during the next

several months, and make a case at least among his friends.

If Stalin decides to hold on, we have a two to one chance to beat

Hitler in the long run; if he decides to quit it means we face much

worse odds. There is only one way we can persuade him that we are going

to put our full powers into the struggle. It is our crystal-clear duty

to ourselves, our children, and our national future to keep Stalin in

the war by ourselves going formally to war against Germany. It is a

crime against America to wait.

3. ENGLAND

Q. _What place do you think Churchill will have in history?_

A. If Churchill brings his country victorious out of this war, he

will without a doubt go down as the greatest man in English history.

No Prime Minister of the sixty ministries since Walpole, and none of

the Monarchs when they exercised unlimited power, nor any Admiral or

General has upon his tombstone: “He saved England from death.” Many

have saved England from defeat. Many have added to England’s power and

glory. But only Churchill will be entitled to the supreme rank, for

never before has England been threatened with the supreme penalty of

national extinction. Among the Prime Ministers Lloyd George would have

a place near Churchill, but the alternative to victory in the first

World War was not the alternative in this war. Among the defenders of

England, Nelson, Wellington, and the Great Duke of Marlborough would

rank near Churchill. But the alternative to victory against Napoleon or

Louis XIV was not the alternative England faces now. And no England of

the past ever faced such odds as Churchill and his people faced at the

fall of France. Whatever the decision, Churchill has already achieved

greatness. This man who used to be accused of playing at politics and

acting only for himself has been lifted by his responsibility to forget

himself in the Battle of Mankind.

Q. _Is Mr. Churchill really backed by all the British people?_

A. Mr. Churchill is the most popular and trusted leader the British

people have had within the memory of living man. The man who caused

the defeat of the General Strike in 1926 is if anything more popular

among the working classes than among the upper classes. In the House

of Commons he usually receives heartier applause from Labor members

than from Conservatives even though he is the head of the Conservative

party. This is partly because the Conservatives cannot rid themselves

of a tinge of resentment at the man who was always, consistently,

unfailingly right about the coming of the war, and what it would be

like, while they were always, consistently, unfailingly wrong. The

Conservatives out of a rooted misconception of the character and

intentions of Hitler, felt an instinctive sympathy for him almost up to

the time he actually began to drop bombs upon them. The Labor party on

the other hand shared Churchill’s antipathy for Hitler from the very

beginning, and there was thus early established a bond between the

great British aristocrat and the British working classes which has been

greatly strengthened by his leadership of the war. I doubt if there

is a single Labor party leader with as devoted a following among the

British workers as Churchill has.

Q. _What part in the war has the British workingman played under

Churchill’s leadership?_

A. The British workingman, inspired and informed by Churchill, has been

superbly and intelligently patriotic. It is this union of Churchill

with Labor which has warded off defeat in the most desperate hour,

and which with our help will eventually win the war. British Labor’s

attitude toward the struggle which will decide the fate of all the

world for generations to come is a reproach to that minority of

American labor which has failed to understand the fact that the liberty

and the life of every individual American workingman depends on the

outcome of this war. During those awful months following the evacuation

of Dunkirk, the British trades unions voluntarily gave up all the

trades unions rules which, designed to protect the interests of labor

in peacetime, hampered production and became a danger in war. They

lengthened hours, took less pay for more work, stayed on the job to the

point of complete exhaustion. In the course of about three months the

British workingman doubled the production of weapons and munitions, and

almost tripled airplane production by the end of the year. It could not

have been done without Churchill. From 1932 to 1939, for seven years,

Churchill had been tirelessly teaching, preaching, exhorting, and

pleading with the British public and the British government to meet the

German menace. By the time the war came the British working classes had

learned from Churchill what it was about. They learned much faster than

the Chamberlains and many a muddleheaded rich appeaser.

Another impressive sign of the wisdom of the British Labor Party from

the leaders to the rank and file is that you do not hear from them the

demands for a “definition of war aims” which are so loudly voiced by

groups of American liberals. These Americans who are so concerned about

establishing the chemical purity of British intentions, and who insist

on a blueprint of the peace settlement, and a guarantee that the world

will be made over in a style that meets with their approval--these

Americans show precisely the incomprehension of Hitler that Chamberlain

showed with his appeasement. Your ordinary British dock worker knows

more about the meaning of the war than scores of American intellectuals

who are still bleating about war aims. As the British Labor publicist,

G. D. H. Cole, put it, “The Labor leaders and the great majority

of their followers alike believed firmly that the defeat of Hitler

mattered immeasurably more than anything else. For this reason they

were ready to put aside even their socialism and the greater part of

their reforming policy and even to abstain from criticizing openly

the government’s mistakes rather than run any risk of dividing the

national elements which stood for a vigorous prosecution of the war.”

Q. _Is Churchill what you would call a realist or an idealist?_

A. Churchill is both. He is a hardheaded, tough-minded idealist and

an imaginative, generous realist. He is convinced that the policy

which works for the good of all will also work best for the good of

the individual. This is the foundation stone of civilization. Hitler

believes that the smart man is the man who exploits others. Hitler’s

are the ethics of the “heel,” the gangster, the racketeer, the cheat

who is always on the lookout for a chance to swindle, or rob, betray,

or murder for profit. The Churchill attitude is that of the moral man,

the member of society. The Hitler attitude is that of the amoral man,

the bandit preying upon society.

I do not think Churchill is formally a religious man, although he

attends divine services and thus sets an example for the nation under

his leadership. But Churchill’s beliefs add up to something closely

approaching practical Christianity. It seems to me that very few

Americans really understand what Churchill stands for. He is so much in

the public eye as a war leader, that we are bound to think of him as

a warrior first. We forget or never were told that he is first of all

a builder. Before the war, in the field of international relations he

believed passionately in the life-and-death necessity of sustaining the

League, of collective security through the League.

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