This is not of any interest to me. The only thing that interests me

about the Soviet collectivist system is whether it works or not. If it

works better than ours, to bring more happiness to everybody in the

community than our system, then let us have it. But the trouble with

the Soviet collectivist system is that it simply does not work to make

men happier. It’s only success has been to make men fight. That is what

we need now, but it is not enough.

Q. _Can you prove that the Soviet system does not work?_

A. I am not going to try to do it with statistics. I have played and

worked and sweated with Soviet statistics as much as the next man, but

if there ever was a country on earth where the old saying, “Figures

don’t lie but liars figure,” is true, it is the Soviet Union, where

avowedly and openly it is announced that the Statistical Office must

consider itself in the service of propaganda for the national good. I

can give you only a reproduction of the impressions I had, and which

you would have had if you had been with me.

The two chief impressions you get from the Soviet Union are its extreme

poverty and the all-pervading Terror. True, the Terror diminishes as

one gets away from Moscow and the large cities, but it is present

in greater or less degree everywhere. The population as a whole is

desperately poor and always afraid. I thought when I read of the German

attack on the Soviet Union, and then of the valiant initial Soviet

resistance, that the war must have come to the Soviet population as a

sort of release.

Although “the NKVD instituted severe police measures to round up Fifth

Columnists,” nevertheless the net effect of the impact of the war

upon the Soviet population must have been very much like the opening

of jail doors. The national emergency and the necessity for all to

get together and fight for their lives, I am sure had an inspiriting

effect even greater than it would have in a less primitive Western

community. That wartime spirit of exaltation is not true of the Soviet

Union in peacetime. In ordinary times, the Soviet population is

surely the unhappiest 200,000,000 ever to live under one flag in one

vast succession of barracks and slums covering one-sixth of the land

surface of the globe and stretching from the Arctic Ocean to the Black

Sea and from the Sea of Okhotsk to the Baltic. Think of that immense

area with its huge population and reflect that from one end of the

country to the other there cannot be found a single household (aside

from those of high Soviet officials, and a few artists, journalists,

and other privileged classes--not more than a few thousand out of

200,000,000) possessing the food, clothing, furniture, the necessities

and conveniences of an ordinary workman’s family in the United States.

After two years of warfare and bombing and blockade it would be

difficult to find in all England a workman compelled to live as

uncomfortably, unhygienically, and with as poor food and clothing

as the ordinary Moscow workman. The average family on relief in

America lives better than the privileged Moscow workman’s family. I

particularly emphasize “Moscow workman” because he is the best-off

person in the Soviet Union with the exception of the tiny privileged

group I have mentioned. The revolution was made for the proletariat and

what there is to enjoy goes to the workman.

The peasants on their collective farms live on the whole on a level

beneath that of any large group of white people in the world. The

Soviet peasant’s condition is substantially that of a serf. He is bound

to his collective and may not leave without permission. He is paid

chiefly in kind and his pittance of cash is almost useless, since there

are such small supplies of anything in the stores to buy. He eats day

in and day out, year in and year out, for breakfast, dinner, and supper

black bread and cabbage soup and little else.

The average Russian peasant does not taste meat more than a few times

a year. He is able to live on this diet because his black rye bread

contains everything necessary for complete nutrition save fat, which

he gets from a meager ration of salt pork. His relationship to the

collective is the relationship of serf to master. The serf under

the Czar could be punished by his master; so can the Soviet serf be

punished by the NKVD, without trial, and whereas under the Czar the

landowner had no power of life and death over his serfs, the NKVD has

that power not only over the peasants but over every human being in the

Soviet Union except Stalin himself and his immediate cohorts.

Q. _If the peasant is such a serf, why has he not revolted now that the

advance of Hitler’s armies has given him a chance to do so?_

A. It may sound flippant but it is the sober truth that the Russian

peasant serf does not know that he is a serf; he is convinced that

he lives better than any farm hand in the world. He has utterly no

standard of comparison. He is as incapable of judging his position

in the world as the Eskimos in _Kabloona_ who had never seen a white

man until Gontran de Poncins visited them. The Russian peasant is as

shut off from the outside world as an inhabitant of old Japan before

Perry. Within his world he has no neighbors better off than himself.

This makes him a happier man than if he were able to observe and become

envious of more pleasant ways of life.

Q. _What is the NKVD?_

A. That is the name given the Soviet Political Police in 1934. It has

had three names, first the Cheka, then the G.P.U., pronounced Gay Pay

Oo, and now NKVD, pronounced En Kah Vay Day, which is an abbreviation

for the _Narkomvnudel_, itself an abbreviation of four Russian words

meaning Peoples Commissariat of Internal Affairs. Whenever the

Political Police has accumulated too much blood on its name, it is

changed, but its functions remain the same: to administer the Terror.

Q. _Are the people in the collective farms better off than when they

were individual farmers?_

A. I did not know the Russia of the Czars, but the peasant himself gave

a very good answer to that when he refused to go into the collectives,

and rather than enter with his livestock, killed it by the thousands

of head, until within a year more than half the cattle, horses, pigs,

and sheep of the country had been slaughtered. The Soviet Union has

not yet entirely recovered from this animal massacre. The peasants

slaughtered their livestock because once collectivized, the livestock

passed completely out of control of the peasants. Stalin later conceded

each collective farm peasant the right to own one cow and one pig as

his private possession. Otherwise the members of the collective may not

dispose of the product of their own toil.

Q. _But isn’t that precisely the nature of a collective, for all

members to pool their resources and labor and then draw the dividends?_

A. That is the theory, but the dividends for the Soviet peasant consist

of the barest subsistence. They must turn over to the State trusts

a stipulated amount or share of whatever their collective produces,

wheat, or dairy products, beef or pork, and this share is usually so

high that there is nothing left for the peasants to eat but black bread

and cabbage. It is the settled policy of the Five-Year Plans to take

from the soil all its produce except the minimum subsistence for the

peasants and devote it to industrialization, by distribution at high

prices to the workmen, and by export, in exchange for machines from

abroad.

Q. _Then, surely the Russian workman is much better off, since the

whole system is supposed to be for the benefit of the proletariat._

A. He is better off than the peasant, but he is worse off than any

other white workman in the world. In the winter of 1934-1935 I made

a survey of the Russian standard of living and compared it with

the standard of living in capitalist states. In order to make the

comparison as fair as possible I chose the little capitalist states

which used to be a part of Imperial Russia--Finland, Esthonia, Latvia,

Lithuania, and Poland.

First I spent two months in Moscow, studying the standard of living

of the workmen in the best Moscow factories. These workmen were more

favorably situated than any others in the Soviet Union. Then I spent

three months studying the standard of living of typical working-class

families in the little capitalist states. To my surprise I found

that the poorest workmen’s families in the capitalist states lived

considerably better than the Moscow workers, who were the most

prosperous in all Russia.

This was after seventeen years of Communism, and the capitalist states

used for comparison were among the poorest in the world. They had all

suffered more from the World War than Russia as a whole had suffered,

and they began their new national lives from scratch, without capital

or credit. Yet the average workman in Finland, Esthonia, Latvia,

Lithuania, and Poland was living at least twice as well as the best-off

workmen in the Soviet Union.

Q. _How did you get your facts?_

A. By visiting scores of homes and talking with the housewives. I asked

each one fifty to a hundred questions, and found out the total family

income, how it was earned, and how it was spent. Then I made up a

theoretical basket, to contain a week’s supply of food for a workman,

and found out by direct inquiry the number of hours a man would have

to work to earn the basket. I found that in order to buy the basket the

Soviet workman had to spend an average of twice as many working hours

as his fellow worker in the small capitalistic states, while he would

have to spend over three times as many working hours as a workman in

the United States.

The Moscow workers, as the workers in most parts of the Soviet Union,

live in barracks, one or more families to a room, brutally overcrowded.

The Soviet Union has never succeeded in solving its housing problem and

seems, indeed, to be slipping steadily backward, each year jamming more

and more people into tenements fantastically full. It is not unusual

to find four families sharing a single room. Imagine how much privacy

they have, with each family’s quarter of the room partitioned off by a

hanging sheet. In the little capitalist states, many workmen had their

own cottage homes, a thing utterly unknown in the Soviet Union.

The food eaten by the capitalist workmen was incomparably better in

quality and greater in quantity than the Soviet workman’s food. The

clothing worn by the Soviet workmen and their families was pathetically

threadbare, sleazy and cheap, while the capitalist workmen were

well-dressed in comparison. Now these Russian workmen, it must be

remembered, were in the midst of their Second Five-Year Plan, and

were the recipients of the cream of its production. They were the

beneficiaries of that vast scheme of National Planned Economy which was

to produce so much more efficiently than the capitalist system that

before long everybody in the Soviet Union would be living like rich

men in the United States. It was their idea that the time would soon

come when production of every conceivable kind of commodity would be

so prolific in the Soviet Union that everybody could have his every

material want satisfied. “From each according to his ability--to each

according to his need,” the classic Communist ideal would be finally

attained.

Now after twenty-three years of trial it seems certain that in

place of Soviet State Capitalism, any form of private capitalism

under a democracy would have given Russia not only the blessings of

individual liberty, but far greater industrial production, which of

course is the prime measure of any economic system’s success. This is

not a mere speculation. If you take the graph of Imperialist Russian

industrial production before the last war, and prolong it over the

next twenty-three years at the same rate of increase as the years

1900 to 1914, you will find that Czarist Russia would have produced

more in 1940 than the Soviet Union with all its Five-Year Plans. What

Russia could have accomplished under a liberal democratic, or a free

democratic-socialist regime, we can only guess.

Both Lenin and Trotzky once remarked that no matter what else the

Soviet Union did, if it did not succeed in producing more than the

capitalist system produced, the Soviet system must be called a failure.

If it is objected that the Soviet Union had to spend its surplus

on defense, one can reply that a system which is so poor that the

population has to live on a bare subsistence level in order to maintain

its armed services, is a failure also. Twenty-three years is a long

enough trial for any system to show at least some hope.

Q. _What is State Capitalism and what has this to do with the war?_

A. It has a great deal to do with the war, because Soviet weakness

tempted Hitler to attack and Soviet weakness is a direct outcome

of Soviet State Capitalism. This term means that the State is the

monopolizer of all industry, trade, and agriculture. It is the sole

employer. It is the owner and manager of all factories, mines, shops,

farms, fisheries, transport systems, in short of every means of

production and distribution in the country.

No one can work for any other employer except the State and the State

has absolute power to order every minute detail of the daily lives of

its employees, the whole population. The Soviet workman is no less a

serf than the Soviet peasant, for the workman also cannot leave his job

without permission, and he also has no control of any kind over his

employer, no means of bringing pressure on him, because his employer

is the State and the State is not elected, but its representatives are

appointed from the top down, beginning with Stalin.

Q. _You say the State is not elected, but how about the Soviet

elections we hear about?_

A. The voters are presented with a ticket chosen by the Party and they

are allowed to accept the Party candidates. Citizens of the Soviet

Union have exactly as much voice in their government as citizens of

Nazi Germany have in theirs, that is, none at all. It is nevertheless

interesting to note that the tyrant in the Soviet Union still thinks

it worth while to preserve the farce of elections while the tyrant in

Germany has apparently dispensed with them altogether.

Q. _But cannot the Soviet workmen bring pressure to bear on the

authorities by striking?_

A. Strikes have been outlawed _de facto_ in the Soviet Union since its

earliest years. Soviet trades unions are merely the instruments for

helping the State enforce discipline. They are the classic type of

company unions. We can sum up this aspect of Soviet State Capitalism by

saying that whereas this form of collectivism was intended originally

to free the workman from all the disabilities, injustices, and

inequalities suffered by the workman under the individual capitalist

employer, all that has happened is that the workman has exchanged a

comparatively weak, sometimes well-meaning, individual or corporate

capitalist employer for a monster, all-powerful, completely egocentric,

impersonal, soulless monopoly, the State, which has all the faults of

the worst individual employer multiplied a millionfold. It is just as

greedy as the worst individual, but has no check upon its greed, and

it is never as efficient as the least efficient individual. It is Jack

London’s Iron Heel in reverse.

Q. _It was the original Bolshevik theory, was it not, that their

Planned National Economy would be superior to Unplanned Capitalist

Economy because it would prevent the cyclic recurrence of economic

crises, such as 1929-1930? It was to end all booms and depressions by

ending overproduction. Hasn’t the Soviet Union done at least that much?_

A. We cannot tell, because the Soviet Union has never, in the

twenty-three years of its existence, had anything like sufficient

production, much less overproduction.

Q. _Why couldn’t the Soviet Planned Economy succeed?_

A. We can split the total failure into five parts: First, failure

adequately to replace the profit system; second, failure of planned

production; third, failure of planned distribution; fourth, failure

of the monetary system; fifth, failure of Soviet construction to keep

up with deterioration. Behind all these four failures looms the black

father of them all, the Terror.

Q. _Why do you devote so much importance to the Soviet Terror?_

A. From having witnessed its importance in the Soviet Union. Aside

from that, we ought to be able to recognize purely theoretically its

paramount role in any attempt swiftly to transform an individualistic

society into a collectivist society. For thousands of years men have

been living more or less free individual lives. Suddenly it is decided

to create a collective, as the Bolsheviks decided in Russia. At the

time of the Revolution there were said to have been no more than ten

thousand Bolsheviks. Eventually they were to impose their will upon

200,000,000 people and reorganize them into a vast, badly functioning,

but nevertheless authentic anthill. To do this as swiftly as the

Bolsheviks wanted it done required compulsion, applied without stint,

to every unit in the ant heap. Having no say in the matter these

multitudes of human beings were required to change every habit of their

lives; were ordered even to change their instincts. It took unlimited

compulsion to achieve a semblance of the goal. The instrument of

compulsion was the Terror.

It produced an ant heap, but the ant heap never was able to do more

than provide minimum food, lodging, and clothing for its ants. For a

long time outside observers leniently agreed that this must be due

to the strain of reorganizing an individualistic into a collectivist

society, but now that a generation has passed, the tendency is to

consider that more fundamental faults are to blame.

First, it appeared that the motive for work was not so effective in

the ant heap as it was in the outside world, since from the day of

its foundation until this moment the Soviet workman has produced less

per capita per hour than capitalist workmen anywhere in the world.

Furthermore, higher ranks, as engineers, technicians, superintendents,

managers, and directors in the Soviet Union were so notably inefficient

compared with their capitalist colleagues that for a time the anthill

authorities imported and paid highly trained specialists from the

outside world to set an example and teach.

This effort too was a failure, as Soviet production usually declined to

its original level after departure of the foreign specialist. Also the

men of enterprise who in a free society risk their capital and brains

to found factories, dig mines, and sometimes swindle their fellow men,

were assigned in the anthill to the Gosplan, the Government Planning

Commission. There, in the effort to plan production for 200,000,000

people, the anthill failed most dismally. The conclusion was that the

collective with its rigid wage scales, limited incomes, prohibited

labor market, and ban on profits had not provided a motive for work

as stimulating and productive as the profit motive and the competitive

wage system in the free capitalist world.

Q. _How can you call it a free capitalist world? There isn’t any

freedom left in the capitalist world. Look at all the checks on

business here in the United States. Do you consider our farmers free?

They can’t even plant what they want._

A. Yes, I call it free, as free as bird life compared with the Soviet

Union or with Nazi Germany. The trouble with you and with all of us

who complain about the checks on business, on agriculture, and so

on, is that we lack the experience of being really without freedom.

Unless you have lived in a slave state, under a real tyranny, you

simply do not know what freedom means. All these checks about which you

complain are legal checks imposed by law made by representatives of

your choosing and passed upon by courts which are eventually also of

your choosing, and drawn within a constitution which was also chosen

and is now maintained by the people’s free will. If you dislike any of

these checks, you have only to get a majority to agree with you and you

can change it. To compare the lack of absolute freedom in our world

with the absolute lack of freedom in the totalitarian world, whether

Bolshevik or Nazi, is the same as to compare a traffic policeman with

the warden of a penitentiary.

It was precisely this effort at penitentiary production on a

continental scale that broke down the Russian effort at planned

national economy. It proved impossible to plan effectively for so

enormous an aggregate of human beings every detail of their production.

A few of the population, perhaps two per cent, were zealous Communists

who were willing to work harder to make the collective successful than

they would have worked for any amount of profit.

Terror was used to make the other ninety-eight per cent fit in and

work. But the Terror took away from the managers, supervisors, and

technicians the willingness to take responsibility. A mistake, honest

though it might be, could cost a factory manager his life. In the

Soviet Union the man who makes a mistake is automatically suspected and

accused of sabotage. The only way to be safe is to make no decisions,

pass every responsibility to a higher authority. This is the rule today

throughout the Soviet economic apparatus.

Parallel with this effect of the Terror is the benumbing influence of

the unforgiving rigidity of the Plan. Each factory manager is given a

quota to fulfill. Quotas are calculated at a trifle more than normal

maximum capacity. No excuses are accepted for nonfulfillment. In the

chaos of Soviet economic life it is seldom that raw materials, fuel,

tools, and labor can easily be brought together to fulfill a quota,

yet failure may cost the factory manager “liquidation,” which means

anything from dismissal or exile at hard labor to death.

Consequently, nearly all quotas are fulfilled in quantity, but quality

is in practice ignored. The number of units of production is easily

checked; quality is more difficult to check. Hence, Soviet industrial

production is lower in quality than in the capitalist world, and this

is a partial explanation for the divergence between Soviet industrial

statistics which show a high level of production, and the facts of

Soviet economic life which demonstrate to the naked eye how low the

level of production is. Some observers have estimated that at least

thirty per cent should be taken off all Soviet industrial production

statistics to allow for the quantities of entirely unusable goods

produced.

Q. _But we used to prize highly many objects of Russian manufacture,

and you can still see in jewelry and antique stores all kinds of finely

made things, enamel work, and leather goods, wonderfully printed books.

What has become of them?_

A. Nearly all that fine handicraft is gone now. The Russian artisan

used to be one of the best in the world. Home handicrafts formerly

supplied a sizable fraction of Russian consumption goods, not only

the things you mention, but furniture, pottery, textiles--wonderful

hand-woven linen and wool--and lacquer work. Most of these artisans,

or such of them as outlived the hardships of the Revolution, have

been forced into factories today to turn out mass production articles

inferior to any in the world, including the Japanese.

I often wonder what a Moscow citizen would say if he could walk through

an American five-and-ten-cent store. I am sure he would think he was

being deceived. He could not imagine such a wealth of high-grade,

luxurious articles. Once one of the younger members of the Rosenwald

clan visited Moscow and as we looked in the pitiful shopwindows I

remarked that if he wanted to start a revolution in Russia all he

would have to do would be to distribute a few million Sears Roebuck

catalogues among the workers and peasants of the greatest poorhouse in

history. Such a system of nationwide mail-order distribution would be

utterly beyond the comprehension of a Soviet citizen, for one of the

weakest links in the weak chain of Soviet economy is the distribution

of goods.

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