CHAPTER XIV

Bernard Shaw

_This chapter was read by G.B.S. His remarks are printed in

footnotes. [A facsimile of the] one page altered substantially by him

is [omitted in this plain-text electronic edition]_.

WHEN ANYONE IN the early years of the century made a list of the

English writers most in the public eye, such a list always included

the names of Bernard Shaw and G. K. Chesterton. But a good many

people in writing down these names did so with unconcealed irritation

and I think it is important at this stage to see why.

These men were constantly arguing with each other; but the literary

public felt all the same that they represented something in common,

and the literary public was by no means sure that it liked that

something. It could not quite resist Bernard Shaw's plays; it loved

Chesterton whenever it could rebuke him affectionately for paradox

and levity. What that public succumbed to in these men was their art:

it was by no means so certain that it liked their meaning. And so the

literary public elected to say that Shaw and Chesterton were having a

cheap success by standing on their heads and declaring that black was

white. The audience watched a Shaw v. Chesterton debate as a sham

fight or a display of fireworks, as indeed it always partly was; for

each of them would have died rather than really hurt the other. But

Shaw and Chesterton were operating on their minds all the time. They

were allowed to sit in the stalls and applaud. But they were

themselves being challenged; and that spoilt their comfort.

Chesterton in his _Autobiography_ complains of the falsity of most of

the pictures of England during the Victorian era. The languishing,

fainting females, who were in fact far stronger-minded than their

grand-daughters today, the tyrannical pious fathers, the dull

conventional lives: it all rings false to anyone who grew up in an

average Victorian middle-class home and was happy enough there. There

was, however, one thing fundamentally wrong in such homes; and it was

on this fundamental sin that he agreed with Shaw in waging a

relentless war.

The middle classes of England were thoroughly and smugly satisfied

with social conditions that were intolerable for the great mass of

their fellow countrymen. They had erected between the classes

artificial barriers and now did not even look over the top of them. I

remember how when my mother started a settlement in South London the

head worker told us she often saw women groping in the dirt under the

fish barrows for the heads and tails of fishes to boil for their

children. The settlement began to give the children dinners of

dumplings or rice pudding and treacle, and many well-to-do friends

would give my mother a pound or so to help this work. But the

suggestion that government should intervene was Socialism: the idea

that here was a symptom of a widespread evil, was scouted utterly.

People might have learnt much from their own servants of how the rest

of humanity were living, but while, said Chesterton, they laughed at

the idea of the mediaeval baron whose vassals ate below the salt,

their own vassals ate and lived below the floor. At no time in the

Christian past had there been such a deep and wide cleavage in

humanity.

The first thing that G.K.C. and G.B.S., Wells too, and Belloc, were

all agreed upon was that the upper and middle classes of England must

be reminded, if need were by a series of earthquakes, that they were

living in an unreal world. They had forgotten the human race to which

they belonged. They, a tiny section, spoke of the mass of mankind as

"the poor" or "the lower orders" almost as they might speak of the

beasts of the forest, as beings of a different race. Chesterton had a

profound and noble respect for the poor: Shaw declared that they were

"useless, dangerous, and ought to be abolished." But for both men,

the handful of quarrelsome cliques called the literary world was far

too small, because it was so tiny a section of the human race.

Shaw and Chesterton had, in fact, discovered the social problem.

Today, whether people intend to do anything about it or not, it is

impossible to avoid knowing something about it. But at that date the

idea was general that all was as well as could be expected in an

imperfect world. The trades unionists were telling a different story,

but they could not hope to reach intellectually the classes they were

attacking. Here were men who could not be ignored, and I cannot but

think that it was sometimes the mere utterance of unwelcome truth in

brilliant speech that aroused the cry of "paradox."

I hear many people [wrote Chesterton], complain that Bernard Shaw

deliberately mystifies them. I cannot imagine what they mean; it

seems to me that he deliberately insults them. His language,

especially on moral questions, is generally as straight and solid as

that of a bargee and far less ornate and symbolic than that of a

hansom-cabman. The prosperous English Philistine complains that Mr.

Shaw is making a fool of him. Whereas Mr. Shaw is not in the least

making a fool of him; Mr. Shaw is, with laborious lucidity, calling

him a fool. G.B.S. calls a landlord a thief; and the landlord,

instead of denying or resenting it, says, "Ah, that fellow hides his

meaning so cleverly that one can never make out what he means, it is

all so fine-spun and fantastical." G.B.S. calls a statesman a liar to

his face, and the statesman cries in a kind of ecstasy, "Ah, what

quaint, intricate and half-tangled trains of thought! Ah, what

elusive and many-coloured mysteries of half-meaning!" I think it is

always quite plain what Mr. Shaw means, even when he is joking, and

it generally means that the people he is talking to ought to howl

aloud for their sins. But the average representative of them

undoubtedly treats the Shavian meaning as tricky and complex, when it

is really direct and offensive. He always accuses Shaw of pulling his

leg, at the exact moment when Shaw is pulling his nose.*

[* _George Bernard Shaw_, pp. 82-3.]

Chesterton was, however, in agreement with the ordinary citizen and

in disagreement with Shaw as to much of Shaw's essential teaching.

And here we touch a matter so involved that even today it is hard to

disentangle it completely. I suppose it will always be possible for

two observers to look at human beings acting, to hear them talking,

and to arrive at two entirely different interpretations of what they

mean. This is certainly the case with any very recent period, and

perhaps especially with our own recent history. We have within living

memory ended a period and begun an exceedingly different period, and

we tend to judge the former by the light--or the darkness--of the

latter. The Victorian age, even in its extreme old age, was still

tacitly assuming and legally enforcing as axioms the Christian moral

system, especially in regard to marriage and all sex questions, and

the sacred nature of property. To read many disquisitions on that

period today one would suppose that no one living really believed in

these things: that humbug explained the first and greed the second.

This is surely a false perspective. The age was an enormously

conventional one: these fundamental ideas had become fossilized and

meaningless for an increasing number of younger people. But when

Bernard Shaw called himself an atheist out of a kind of insane

generosity towards Bradlaugh (see his letter to G.K. later in this

chapter) or described all property as theft, it was a real moral

indignation that was roused in many minds. Real, but exceedingly

confused. It testified to the need of the ordinary man to live by a

creed that he need not question. Shaw and Chesterton were

philosophers, and philosophers love asking questions as well as

answering them. But the average man wants to live by his creed, not

question it, and the elder Victorians had still some kind of creed.

There were many who believed in God. There were others who believed

that the Christian moral system must remain, because it had commended

itself to man's nature as the highest and best and was the true fruit

of evolutionary progress. There were certainly some who were angry

because they thought chaos must follow any tampering with the

existing social order. But if you take the mass of those who tried to

laugh Bernard Shaw aside and grew angry when they could not do so,

you find at the root of the anger an intense dislike of having any

part of a system questioned which was to them unquestionable, which

they had erected into a creed. They thought Shaw's ideas dangerous

and wanted to keep them from the young. They did not want anyone to

ask how a civilisation had laid its principles open to this brilliant

and effective siege. They hated Shaw's questions before they began to

hate his answers. And that is probably why so many linked Chesterton

with Shaw--he gave different answers, but he was asking many of the

same questions. He questioned everything as Shaw did--only he pushed

his questions further: they were deeper and more searching. Shaw

would not accept the old Scriptural orthodoxy; G.K. refused to accept

the new Agnostic orthodoxy; neither man would accept the orthodoxy of

the scientists; both were prepared to attack what Butler had called

"the science ridden, art ridden, culture ridden, afternoon-tea ridden

cliffs of old England."

They attacked first by the mere process of asking questions; and the

world thus questioned grew uneasy and seemed to care curiously little

for the fact that the two questioners were answering their own

questions in an opposite fashion. Where Shaw said: "Give up

pretending you believe in God, for you don't," Chesterton said:

"Rediscover the reasons for believing or else our race is lost."

Where Shaw said: "Abolish private property which has produced this

ghastly poverty," Chesterton said: "Abolish ghastly poverty by

restoring property."

And the audience said: "these two men in strange paradoxes seem to us

to be saying the same thing, if indeed they are saying anything at

all." Chesterton wrote later of a young man whose aunt "had

disinherited him for Socialism because of a lecture he had delivered

against that economic theory"; and I well remember how often after my

own energetic attempts to explain why a Distributist was not a

Socialist, I was met with a weary, "Well, it's just the same." It was

just the same question; it was an entirely different answer, but the

audience, annoyed by the question, never seemed to listen to the

answer. One man was saying: "Sweep away the old beliefs of humanity

and start fresh"; the other was saying: "Rediscover your reasons for

these profound beliefs, make them once more effective, for they are

of the very nature of man."

Shaw and Chesterton were themselves deeply concerned about the

answers. Both sincere, both dealing with realities, they were

prepared to accept each other's sincerity and to fight the matter

out, if need were, endlessly. Being writers they conducted their

discussions in writing: being journalists they did so mainly in the

newspapers, to the delight or fury of other journalists. A jealous

few were enraged at what they called publicity hunting, but most

realised that it was not a private fight. Anyone might join in and a

good many did.

Belloc was in the fight as early as Chesterton, and of course, on the

same side. G.B.S. who had invented "The Chesterbelloc" declared that

Chesterton felt obliged to embrace the dogmas of Catholicism lest

Belloc's soul should be damned. H. G. Wells agreed in the main with

Shaw: both were Fabians and both were ready with a Fabian Utopia for

humanity, which Belloc and Chesterton felt would be little better

than a prison. Cecil Chesterton, coming in at an angle of his own,

wrote some effective articles. He was a Fabian--actually an official

Fabian--but his outlook already embraced many of the Chesterbelloc

human and genial ideals, although he still ridiculed their Utopia of

the peasant state, small ownership and all that came later to be

called Distributism. Like the _Clarion_, the _New Age_ (itself a

Socialist paper) saw the wisdom of giving a platform to both sides,

and in this paper appeared the best articles that the controversy

produced.

Meanwhile the private friendship between G.B.S. and G.K.C. was

growing apace. Very early on, Shaw had begun to urge G.K. to write a

play. G.K. was, perhaps, beginning to feel that newspaper controversy

did not give him space to say all he wanted about Shaw (or perhaps it

was merely that Messrs. Lane had persuaded him to promise them a book

on Shaw for a series they were producing!). Anyhow, in a letter of

1908, Shaw again urges the play and gives interesting information for

the book.

Ayot St. Lawrence, Welwyn, Herts.

1st March 1908.

MY DEAR G.K.C.

What about that play? It is no use trying to answer me in The New

Age: the real answer to my article is the play. I have tried fair

means: The New Age article was the inauguration of an assault below

the belt. I shall deliberately destroy your credit as an essayist, as

a journalist, as a critic, as a Liberal, as everything that offers

your laziness a refuge, until starvation and shame drive you to

serious dramatic parturition. I shall repeat my public challenge to

you; vaunt my superiority; insult your corpulence; torture Belloc; if

necessary, call on you and steal your wife's affections by

intellectual and athletic displays, until you contribute something to

the British drama. You are played out as an essayist: your ardor is

soddened, your intellectual substance crumbled, by the attempt to

keep up the work of your twenties in your thirties. Another five

years of this; and you will be the apologist of every infamy that

wears a Liberal or Catholic mask. You, too, will speak of the

portraits of Vecelli and the Assumption of Allegri, and declare that

Democracy refuses to lackey-label these honest citizens as Titian and

Correggio. Even that colossal fragment of your ruined honesty that

still stupendously dismisses Beethoven as "some rubbish about a

piano" will give way to remarks about "a graceful second subject in

the relative minor." Nothing can save you now except a rebirth as a

dramatist. I have done my turn; and I now call on you to take yours

and do a man's work.

It is my solemn belief that it was my Quintessence of Ibsenism that

rescued you and all your ungrateful generation from Materialism and

Rationalism.* You were all tired young atheists turning to Kipling

and Ruskinian Anglicanism whilst I, with the angel's wings beating in

my ears from Beethoven's 9th symphony (oh blasphemous Walker in

deafness), gave you in 1880 and 1881 two novels in which you had your

Rationalist-secularist hero immediately followed by my Beethovenian

hero. True, nobody read them; but was that my fault? They are read

now, it seems, mostly in pirated reprints, in spite of their

appalling puerility and classical perfection of style (you are right

as to my being a born pedant, like all great artists); and are at

least useful as documentary evidence that I was no more a materialist

when I wrote _Love Among the Artists_ at 24 than when I wrote

_Candida_ at 39.

[* Cecil avowed this as far as he was concerned. G.B.S.]

My appearances on the platform of the Hall of Science were three

in number. Once for a few minutes in a discussion, in opposition to

Bradlaugh, who was defending property against Socialism. Bradlaugh

died after that, though I do not claim to have killed him. The

Socialist League challenged him to debate with me at St. James's

Hall; but we could not or would not agree as to the proposition to be

debated, he insisting on my being bound by all the publications of

the Democratic Federation (to which I did not belong) and I refusing

to be bound by anything on earth or in heaven except the proposition

that Socialism would benefit the English people. And so the debate

never came off.

Now in those days they were throwing Bradlaugh out of the House of

Commons with bodily violence; and all one could do was to call

oneself an atheist all over the place, which I accordingly did. At

the first public meeting of the Shelley Society at University

College, addressed by Stopford Brooke, I made my then famous (among

100 people) declaration "I am a Socialist, an Atheist and a

Vegetarian" (ergo, a true Shelleyan) whereupon two ladies who had

been palpitating with enthusiasm for Shelley under the impression

that he was a devout Anglican, resigned on the spot.

My second Hall of Science appearance was after the last of the

Bradlaugh-Hyndman debates at St. James's Hall, where the two

champions never touched the ostensible subject of their

difference--the Eight Hours Day--at all, but simply talked Socialism

or Anti-Socialism with a hearty dislike and contempt for one another.

G. V. Foote was then in his prime as the successor of Bradlaugh; and

as neither the Secularists nor the Socialists were satisfied with the

result of the debate, it was renewed for two nights at the Hall of

Science between me and Foote. A verbatim report was published for

sixpence and is now a treasure of collectors. Having the last word on

the second night, I had to make a handsome wind-up; and the

Secularists were much pleased by my declaring that I was altogether

on Foote's side in his struggle with the established religion of the

country.

When Bradlaugh died, the Secularists wanted a new leader, because

B.'s enormous and magnetic personality left a void that nobody was

big enough to fill--it was really like the death of Napoleon in that

world. There was J. M. Robertson, Foote, and Charles Watts. But

Bradlaugh liked Foote as little as most autocrats like their

successors; and when he, before his death surrendered the gavel (the

hammer for thumping the table to secure order at a meeting) which was

the presidential sceptre of the National Secular Society, he did so

with an ill will which he did not attempt to conceal; and so though

Foote was the nearest size to Bradlaugh's shoes then available, he

succeeded him at the disadvantage of inheriting the distrust of the

old chief. J. M. Robertson you know: he was not a mob orator. Watts

was not sufficient: he had neither Foote's weight (being old) nor

Robertson's scholarship.

So whilst the survivors of Bradlaugh were trying to keep up the

Hall of Science and to establish a memorial library, etc. there, they

cast round for new blood. What more natural than that they should

think of me as a man not afraid to call himself an atheist and able

to hold his own on the platform? Accordingly, they invited me to

address them; and one memorable night I held forth on Progress in

Freethought. I was received with affectionate hope; and when the

chairman announced that I was giving my share of the gate to the

memorial library (I have never taken money for lecturing) the

enthusiasm was quite touching. The anti-climax was super-Shavian. I

proceeded to smash materialism, rationalism, and all the philosophy

of Tyndall, Helmholtz, Darwin and the rest of the 1860 people into

smithereens. I ridiculed and exposed every inference of science, and

justified every dogma of religion, especially showing that the

Trinity and the Immaculate Conception were the merest common sense.

That finished me up as a possible leader of the N.S.S. Robertson came

on the platform, white with honest Scotch Rationalist rage, and

denounced me with a fury of conviction that startled his own

followers. Never did I grace that platform again. I repeated the

address once to a branch of the N.S.S. on the south side of the

Thames--Kensington, I think--and was interrupted by yells of rage

from the veterans of the society. The Leicester Secularists, a pious

folk, rich and independent of the N.S.S., were kinder to me; but they

were no more real atheists than the congregation of St. Paul's is

made wholly of real Christians.

Foote is still bewildered about me, imagining that I am a pervert.

But anybody who reads my stuff from the beginning (a Shelleyan

beginning, as far as it could be labelled at all) will find implicit,

and sometimes explicit, the views which, in their more matured form,

will appear in that remarkable forthcoming masterpiece, "Shavianism:

a Religion."

By the way, I have omitted one more appearance at the Hall of

Science. At a four nights' debate on Socialism between Foote and Mrs.

Besant, I took the chair on one of the nights.

I take advantage of a snowy Sunday afternoon to scribble all this

down for you because you are in the same difficulty that beset me

formerly: namely, the absolute blank in the history of the immediate

past that confronts every man when he first takes to public life.

Written history stops several decades back; and the bridge of

personal recollection on which older men stand does not exist for the

recruit. Nothing is more natural than that you should reconstruct me

as the last of the Rationalists (his real name is Blatchford); and

nothing could be more erroneous. It would be much nearer the truth to

call me, in that world, the first of the mystics.

If you can imagine the result of trying to write your spiritual

history in complete ignorance of painting, you will get a notion of

trying to write mine in ignorance of music. Bradlaugh was a

tremendous platform heavyweight; but he had never in his life, as far

as I could make out, seen anything, heard anything or read anything

in the artistic sense. He was almost beyond belief incapable of

intercourse in private conversation. He could tell you his adventures

provided you didn't interrupt him (which you were mostly afraid to

do, as the man was a mesmeric terror); but as to exchanging ideas, or

expressing the universal part of his soul, you might as well have

been reading the letters of Charles Dickens to his family--those

tragic monuments of dumbness of soul and noisiness of pen. Lord help

you if you ever lose your gift of speech, G.K.C.! Don't forget that

the race is only struggling out of its dumbness, and that it is only

in moments of inspiration that we get out a sentence. All the rest is

padding.

Yours ever

G. BERNARD SHAW.

In the book on Shaw which appeared in August 1909, G.K. did as he had

done with his other literary studies: gave (inaccurately) only as

much biography as seemed absolutely necessary, and mainly discussed

ideas. He saw Shaw as an Irishman, yet lacking the roots of

nationality since he belonged to a mainly alien governing class. He

saw him as a Puritan yet without the religious basis of Puritanism.

And thirdly, he saw him as so swift a progressive as to be ahead of

his own thought and ready to slay it in the name of progress.

All these elements in Shaw made for strength but also created

limitations, "Shaw is like the Venus of Milo; all that there is of

him is admirable." Where he fails is in being unable to see and

embrace the full complexity of life. "His only paradox is to pull out

one thread or cord of truth longer and longer into waste and

fantastic places. He does not allow for that deeper sort of paradox

by which two opposite cords of truth become entangled in an

inextricable knot. Still less can he be made to realise that it is

often this knot which ties safely together the whole bundle of human

life . . . here lies the limitation of that lucid and compelling

mind; he cannot quite understand life, because he will not accept its

contradictions." Humanity is built of these contradictions, therefore

Shaw pities humanity more than he loves it. "It was his glory that he

pitied animals like men; it was his defect that he pitied men almost

too much like animals. Foulon said of the democracy, 'Let them eat

grass.' Shaw said, 'Let them eat greens.' He had more benevolence but

almost as much disdain."

As a vegetarian and a water drinker Shaw himself lacked, in

Chesterton's eyes, something of complete humanity. And in discussing

social problems he was more economist than man. "Shaw (one might

almost say) dislikes murder, not so much because it wastes the life

of the corpse as because it wastes the time of the murderer." This

lack of the full human touch is felt, even in the plays, because Shaw

cannot be irrational where humanity always is irrational. In

_Candida_ "It is completely and disastrously false to the whole

nature of falling in love to make the young Eugene complain of the

cruelty which makes Candida defile her fair hands with domestic

duties. No boy in love with a beautiful woman would ever feel

disgusted when she peeled potatoes or trimmed lamps. He would like

her to be domestic. He would simply feel that the potatoes had become

poetical and the lamps gained an extra light. This may be irrational;

but we are not talking of rationality, but of the psychology of first

love.* It may be very unfair to women that the toil and triviality of

potato-peeling should be seen through a glamour of romance; but the

glamour is quite as certain a fact as the potatoes. It may be a bad

thing in sociology that men should deify domesticity in girls as

something dainty and magical; but all men do. Personally I do not

think it a bad thing at all; but that is another argument."**

[* No two love affairs are the same. This sentence assumed that they

are all the same. To Eugene, the poet living in a world of

imagination and abhorring reality, Candida was what Dulcinea was to

Don Quixote. G.B.S.]

[** _George Bernard Shaw_, pp. 120-1.]

Yet Shaw's limitations are those of a great man and a genius. In an

age of narrow specialism he has "stood up for the fact that

philosophy is not the concern of those who pass through Divinity and

Greats, but of those who pass through birth and death." In an age

that has almost chosen death, "Shaw follows the banner of life; but

austerely, not joyously." Nowhere, in dealing with Shaw's philosophy,

does Chesterton note his debt to Butler. Shaw has himself mentioned

it, and no reader of Butler could miss it, especially in this matter

of the Life Force. It is the special paradox of our age, Chesterton

notes, that the life force should thus need assertion and can thus be

followed without joy.

To every man and woman, bird, beast, and flower, life is a

love-call to be eagerly followed. To Bernard Shaw it is merely a

military bugle to be obeyed. In short, he fails to feel that the

command of Nature (if one must use the anthropomorphic fable of

Nature instead of the philosophic term God) can be enjoyed as well as

obeyed. He paints life at its darkest and then tells the babe unborn

to take the leap in the dark. That is heroic; and to my instinct at

least Schopenhauer looks like a pigmy beside his pupil. But it is the

heroism of a morbid and almost asphyxiated age. It is awful to think

that this world which so many poets have praised has even for a time

been depicted as a man-trap into which we may just have the manhood

to jump. Think of all those ages through which men have talked of

having the courage to die. And then remember that we have actually

fallen to talking of having the courage to live.*

[* _George Bernard Shaw_. Week-End Library, p. 190.]

Here comes the great parting of the two men's thought. G.K. believed

in God and in joy. But he saw that Shaw had much of value for this

strange diseased world. His primary value was not merely (as some

said) that he woke it up. The literary world might not be awake to

the social evil, but it was painfully awake to the ills, real or

imaginary, inherent in human life.

We do not need waking up; rather we suffer from insomnia, with all

its results of fear and exaggeration and frightful waking dreams. The

modern mind is not a donkey which wants kicking to make it go on. The

modern mind is more like a motor-car on a lonely road which two

amateur motorists have been just clever enough to take to pieces but

are not quite clever enough to put together again.*

[Ibid., pp. 245-6.]

Shaw had not merely asked questions of the age: that would have been

worse than useless. What he had done was at moments to rise above his

own thoughts and give, through his characters, inspired answers: G.K.

instances _Candida_, with its revelation of the meaning of marriage

when the woman stays with the strong man because he is so weak and

needs her. And Shaw had brought back philosophy into drama--that is,

he had recreated the atmosphere, lost since Shakespeare,* in which

men were thinking, and might, therefore, find the answers that the

age needed. And here again we come back to the world which these men

were shaking and to the respective philosophies with which they

looked at it. It was a world of conventions and these conventions had

become empty of meaning. Throw them away, said Shaw and Wells; no,

said Chesterton; keep them and look for their meaning; Revolution

does not mean destruction: it means restoration.

[* Hard on Goethe and Ibsen, to say nothing of Mozart's Magic Flute

and Beethoven's 9th symphony. G.B.S.]

The same sort of discussion buzzed around this book as around the

controversies of which it might be called a prolongation. Shaw

himself reviewed it in an article in the _Nation_, in which he called

it, "the best work of literary art I have yet provoked. . . .

Everything about me which Mr. Chesterton had to divine he has divined

miraculously. But everything that he could have ascertained easily by

reading my own plain directions on the bottle, as it were, remains

for him a muddled and painful problem." From an interchange of

private letters it would seem that the move to Beaconsfield took

place later in this year than I had supposed. Bernard Shaw's letter

is probably not written many days after an undated one to him from

G.K.:

48, Overstrand Mansions,

Battersea Park. S.W.

DEAR BERNARD SHAW,

I trust our recent tournaments have not rendered it contrary to the

laws of romantic chivalry (which you reverence so much) for me to

introduce to you my friend Mr. Pepler, who is a very nice man indeed

though a social idealist, and who has, I believe, something of a

practical sort to ask of you. Please excuse abruptness in this letter

of introduction; we are moving into the country and every piece of

furniture I begin to write at is taken away and put into a van.

Always yours sincerely,

G. K. CHESTERTON.

10, Adelphi Terrace, W.C.

30th October 1909.

CHESTERTON.

SHAW SPEAKS.

ATTENTION!

I saw your man and consoled him spiritually; but that is not the

subject of this letter. I still think that you could write a useful

sort of play if you were started. When I was in Kerry last month I

had occasionally a few moments to spare; and it seemed to me quite

unendurable that you should be wasting your time writing books about

me. I liked the book very much, especially as it was so completely

free from my own influence, being evidently founded on a very hazy

recollection of a five-year-old perusal of Man and Superman; but a

lot of it was fearful nonsense. There was one good thing about the

scientific superstition which you came a little too late for. It

taught a man to respect facts. You have no conscience in this

respect; and your punishment is that you substitute such dull

inferences as my "narrow puritan home" for delightful and fantastic

realities which you might very easily have ascertained if you had

taken greater advantage of what is really the only thing to be said

in favour of Battersea; namely, that it is within easy reach of

Adelphi Terrace. However, I have no doubt that when Wilkins Micawber

junior grew up and became eminent in Australia, references were made

to his narrow puritan home; so I do not complain. If you had told the

truth, nobody would have believed it.

Now to business. When one breathes Irish air, one becomes a

practical man. In England I used to say what a pity it was you did

not write a play. In Ireland I sat down and began writing a scenario

for you. But before I could finish it I had come back to London; and

now it is all up with the scenario: in England I can do nothing but

talk. I therefore now send you the thing as far as I scribbled it;

and I leave you to invent what escapades you please for the hero, and

to devise some sensational means of getting him back to heaven again,

unless you prefer to end with the millennium in full swing.*

[* The scenario dealt with the return of St. Augustine to the England

he remembered converting.]

But experience has made me very doubtful of the efficacy of help as

the means of getting work out of the right sort of man. When I was

young I struck out one invaluable rule for myself, which was,

Whenever you meet an important man, contradict him. If possible,

insult him. But such a rule is one of the privileges of youth. I no

longer live by rules. Yet there is one way in which you may possibly

be insultable. It can be plausibly held that you are a venal ruffian,

pouring forth great quantities of immediately saleable stuff, but

altogether declining to lay up for yourself treasures in heaven. It

may be that you cannot afford to do otherwise. Therefore I am quite

ready to make a deal with you.

A full length play should contain about 18,000 words (mine

frequently contain two or three times that number). I do not know

what your price per thousand is. I used to be considered grossly

extortionate by Massingham and others for insisting on £3. 18,000

words at £3 per thousand is £54. I need make no extra allowance for

the republication in book form, because even if the play aborted as

far as the theatre is concerned, you could make a book of it all the

same. Let us assume that your work is worth twice as much as mine;

this would make £108. I have had two shockingly bad years of it

pecuniarily speaking, and am therefore in that phase of extravagance

which straitened means have always produced in me. Knock off 8% as a

sort of agent's commission to me for starting you on the job and

finding you a theme. This leaves £100. I will pay you £100 down on

your contracting to supply me within three months with a mechanically

possible, i.e., stageable drama dealing with the experiences of St.

Augustine after re-visiting England. The literary copyright to be

yours, except that you are not to prevent me making as many copies as

I may require for stage use. The stage right to be mine; but you are

to have the right to buy it back from me for £250 whenever you like.*

The play, if performed, to be announced as your work and not as a

collaboration. All rights which I may have in the scenario to go with

the stage right and literary copyright as prescribed as far as you

may make use of it. What do you say? There is a lot of spending in

£100.

[* I could not very well offer him £100 as a present. G.B.S.]

One condition more. If it should prove impossible to achieve a

performance otherwise than through the Stage Society (which does not

pay anything), a resort to that body is not to be deemed a breach of

the spirit of our agreement.

Do you think it would be possible to make Belloc write a comedy? If

he could only be induced to believe in some sort of God instead of in

that wretched little conspiracy against religion which the pious

Romans have locked up in the Vatican, one could get some drive into

him. As it is, he is wasting prodigious gifts in the service of King

Leopold and the Pope and other ghastly scarecrows. If he must have a

Pope, there is quite a possible one at Adelphi Terrace.

For the next few days I shall be at my country quarters, Ayot St.

Lawrence, Welwyn, Herts. I have a motor car which could carry me on

sufficient provocation as far as Beaconsfield; but I do not know how

much time you spend there and how much in Fleet Street. Are you only

a week-ender; or has your wise wife taken you properly in hand and

committed you to a pastoral life.

Yours ever,

G. BERNARD SHAW.

P.S. Remember that the play is to be practical (in the common

managerial sense) only in respect of its being mechanically

possible as a stage representation. It is to be neither a

likely-to-be-successful play nor a literary lark: it is to be

written for the good of all souls.

Among the reviewers of the book, our old friend, the _Academy_,

surprised me by hating Shaw so much more than Chesterton that the

latter came off quite lightly. There was a good deal of the usual

misunderstanding and lists were made of self-contradictions on the

author's part. Still in the main the press was sympathetic and even

enthusiastic. But when Shaw reviewed Chesterton on Shaw, more than

one paper waxed sarcastic on the point of royalties and remuneration

gained by these means. The funniest of the more critical comments on

the way these men wrote of one another was a suggestion made in the

_Bystander_ that Shaw and Chesterton were really the same person:

. . . Shaw, it is said, tired of socialism, weary of wearing

Jaegers, and broken down by teetotalism and vegetarianism, sought,

some years ago, an escape from them. His adoption, however, of these

attitudes had a decided commercial value, which he did not think it

advisable to prejudice by wholesale surrender. Therefore he, in order

to taste the forbidden joys of individualistic philosophy, meat, food

and strong drink, created "Chesterton." This mammoth myth, he

decided, should enjoy all the forms of fame which Shaw had to deny

himself. Outwardly, he should be Shaw's antithesis. He should be

beardless, large in girth, smiling of countenance, and he should be

licensed to sell paradoxes only in essay and novel form, all stage

and platform rights being reserved by Shaw. To enable the imposition

to be safely carried out, Shaw hit on the idea of residence close to

the tunnel which connects Adelphi with the Strand. Emerging from his

house plain, Jaeger-clad, bearded and saturnine Shaw, he entered the

tunnel, in a cleft in which was a cellar. Here he donned the

Chesterton properties, the immense padding of chest, and so on, the

Chesterton sombrero hat and cloak and pince-nez, and there he left

the Shaw beard and the Shaw clothes, the Shaw expression of

countenance, and all the Shaw theories. He emerged into the Strand

"G.K.C.," in whose identity he visited all the cafés, ate all the

meats, rode in all the cabs, and smiled on all the sinners. The day's

work done, the Chesterton manuscripts delivered, the proofs read, the

bargains driven, the giant figure returned to the tunnel, and once

again was back in Adelphi, the Shaw he was when he left it--back to

the Jaegers, the beard, the Socialism, the statistics, and the

sardonic letters to the _Times_.*

[* From _The Bystander_. 1 September, 1909.]

Bernard Shaw is a man of unusual generosity, but I think from his

letters he must also be quite a good man of business. G.K. was so

greatly the opposite that G.B.S. urged him again and again to do the

most ordinary things to protect the literary rights of himself and

others. Thus, in the only undated letter in the whole packet, he begs

Gilbert to back up the Authors' Society:

MY DEAR G.K.C.,

I am one of the unhappy slaves who, on the two big committees of

your Trade Union (the Society of Authors) drudge at the heartbreaking

work of defending our miserable profession against being devoured,

body and soul, by the publishers--themselves a pitiful gang of

literature-struck impostors who are crumpled up by the booksellers,

who, though small folk, are at least in contact with reality in the

shape of the book buyer. It is a ghastly and infuriating business,

because the authors _will_ go to lunch with their publishers and sell

them anything for £20 over the cigarettes, but it has to be done; and

I, with half a dozen others, have to do it.

Now I missed the last committee meeting (electioneering: I am here

doing two colossal meetings of miners every night for Keir Hardie);

but the harassed secretary writes that it was decided to take

proceedings in the case of a book of yours which you (oh Esau, Esau!)

sold to John--(John is a--well--no matter: when you take your turn on

the committee you will find him out) and that though the German

lawyer has had £7 and is going ahead (£7 worth of law in Germany

takes you to the House of Lords) everything is hung up because you

will not answer Thring's* letters. Thring, in desperation, appeals to

me, concluding with characteristic simplicity that we must be friends

because you have written a book about me. As the conclusion is

accidentally and improbably true, I now urge you to give him whatever

satisfaction he requires. I have no notion what it is, or what the

case is about; but at least answer his letters, however infuriating

they may be. Remember: you pay Thring only £500, for which you get

integrity, incorruptibility, implacability, and a disposition greatly

to find quarrel in a straw on your behalf (even with yourself) and

don't complain if you don't get £20,000 worth of tact into the

bargain. And your obligations to us wretched committee men are simply

incalculable. We get nothing but abuse and denigration: authors weep

with indignation when we put our foot on some blood-sucking,

widow-cheating, orphan starving scoundrel and ruthlessly force him to

keep to his mite of obligation under an agreement which would have

revolted Shylock: unless the best men, the Good Professionals, help

us, we are lost. We get nothing and spend our time like water for you.

[* Herbert Thring was the barrister employed by the Society of

Authors.]

All we ask you to do is to answer Thring and let us get along with

your work.

Look here: will you write to Thring.

_Please_ write to Thring.

I say: have you written to Thring yet?

G.B.S.

I doubt whether he had. Those chance sums he poured from time to time

into Frances' lap were usually not what they should have been, an

advance on a royalty. _Orthodoxy_ he sold outright for £100. No man

ever worked so hard to earn so little.

When later Gilbert employed Messrs. A. P. Watt as his literary agents

a letter to them (undated, of course, and written on the old

notepaper of his first Battersea flat) shows a mingling of gratitude

to his agents with entire absence of resentment towards his

publishers, which might be called essence of Chesterton:

The prices you have got me for books, compared with what I used

weakly to demand, seem to me to come out of fairyland. It seems to me

that there is a genuine business problem which creates a permanent

need for a literary agent. It consists in this--that our work, even

when it has become entirely a duty and a worry, still remains in some

vague way a pleasure. And how can we put a fair price on what is at

once a worry and a pleasure? Suppose someone comes to me and says, "I

offer you sixpence for your _History of the Gnostic Heresy_." Why,

after all, should I charge more than sixpence for a work it was so

exuberant to write? You, on the other hand, seeing it from the

outside, would say that it was worth--so and so. And you would get it.

Shaw continued his attempts to stimulate the reluctant playwright.

Two years after drafting the scenario, he writes:

10 Adelphi Terrace, W.C.

5th April 1912.

DEAR MRS. CHESTERTON,

I have promised to drive somebody to Beaconsfield on Sunday

morning; and I shall be in that district more or less for the rest of

the day. If you are spending Easter at Overroads, and have no

visitors who couldn't stand us, we should like to call on you at any

time that would be convenient.

The convenience of time depends on a design of my own which I wish

to impart to you first. I want to read a play to Gilbert. It began by

way of being a music-hall sketch; so it is not 3½ hours long as

usual: I can get through it in an hour and a half. I want to insult

and taunt and stimulate Gilbert with it. It is the sort of thing he

could write and ought to write: a religious harlequinade.* In fact,

he could do it better if a sufficient number of pins were stuck into

him. My proposal is that I read the play to him on Sunday (or at the

next convenient date), and that you fall into transports of

admiration of it; declare that you can never love a man who cannot

write things like that; and definitely announce that if Gilbert has

not finished a worthy successor to it before the end of the third

week next ensuing, you will go out like the lady in A Doll's House,

and live your own life--whatever that dark threat may mean.

[* Androcles and The Lion evidently. G.B.S.]

If you are at home, I count on your ready complicity; but the

difficulty is that you may have visitors; and if they are pious

Gilbert will be under a tacit obligation not to blaspheme, or let me

blaspheme, whilst they are beneath his roof (my play is about

Christian Martyrs, and perfectly awful in parts); and if they are

journalists, it will be necessary to administer an oath of secrecy. I

don't object to the oath; and nothing would please Gilbert more than

to make them drink blood from a skull: the difficulty is, they

wouldn't keep it. In short, they must be the right sort of people, of

whom the more the merrier.

Forgive this long rigmarole: it is only to put you in possession of

what _may_ happen if you approve, and your invitations and domestic

circumstances are propitious.

Yours sincerely,

G. BERNARD SHAW.

Chesterton at last did write _Magic_--but that belongs to another

chapter.

Like the demand for a play, the theme of finance recurs with great

frequency in Shaw's letters, and after _Magic_ appeared he wrote to

Frances telling her that "in Sweden, where the marriage laws are

comparatively enlightened, I believe you could obtain a divorce on

the ground that your husband threw away an important part of the

provision for your old age for twenty pieces of silver. . . . In

future, the moment he has finished a play and the question of

disposing of it arises, lock him up and bring the agreement to me.

Explanations would be thrown away on him."

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