REPRESENTATION OF VIRGINIA IN THE SENATE.

REMARKS IN THE SENATE, ON THE CREDENTIALS OF HON. JOSEPH SEGAR, OF

VIRGINIA, FEBRUARY 17, 1865.

February 17th, Mr. Willey, of West Virginia, presented the

credentials of Hon. Joseph Segar, appointed Senator by a State

Government of Virginia, sitting at Alexandria. Mr. Sumner moved

their reference to the Committee on the Judiciary, and during

the discussion that ensued said:--

I regret that a question of this magnitude has been precipitated

upon the Senate at this late period of the session, when there is

so much public business which has not yet received the attention of

either House of Congress. The Senator from Michigan [Mr. HOWARD]

does not exaggerate its magnitude. Sir, it is much to be a Senator

of the United States, with all the powers and privileges pertaining

to that office, legislative, diplomatic, and executive; and the

question is, whether all these shall be recognized in the gentleman

whose certificate has been sent to the Chair. I thought it my duty,

on hearing the certificate read as I entered the Chamber, to move its

reference to the Committee on the Judiciary. I am astonished that

there can be any hesitation in that reference. Senators who hesitate

show insensibility to the character of the question. Will the Senate

act blindfold, or with eyes open? I insist that on such a question it

shall act with eyes open, wide open; and I know no way in which this

can be accomplished, except through the intervention of a responsible

Committee. Therefore, Sir, I proposed that the credentials should be

referred. It will be the duty of the Committee, as my friend from

Michigan suggests, to consider, in the first place, whether a State in

armed rebellion, like Virginia, can have Senators on this floor. That

is a great question, constitutional, political, practical. It will be

their duty then to consider whether the gentleman whose credentials

are before us is the legal choice of any State under the National

Constitution. Now, Sir, I do not intend to prejudge either of these

questions. I simply open them for consideration.

I say, Sir, I do not mean to prejudge these questions; but I do insist

that a measure of this importance shall not be acted on without due

consideration, and in absolute indifference to facts staring us in the

face, glaring upon us every day in every newspaper that we read. Sir,

you cannot be insensible to facts. It is in vain that Senators say that

Virginia, now in war against the Union, is entitled to representation

on this floor, when you have before you the inexorable fact that the

greater part of the State is at this moment in the possession of an

armed Rebellion, and that other fact, repeated by the newspapers of

the land, that the body of men who have undertaken to send a Senator

to Congress are little more than the Common Council of Alexandria.

The question is distinctly presented, whether a representative of the

Common Council of Alexandria is to enter this Chamber, and share the

powers and privileges of my honorable friend near me, the Senator from

New York [Mr. MORGAN], or my friend farther from me, the Senator

from Pennsylvania [Mr. COWAN]. I merely open these points, without

undertaking to decide them, but simply as an unanswerable argument in

favor of the reference.

Afterwards, in reply to Mr. Foster, of Connecticut, Mr. Sumner

said:--

Suppose it was matter of public notoriety that I came into this Chamber

with a certificate from a body of men in Boston, little more in number

and character than the Common Council of that city, not in fact

supposed to represent the State; suppose this fact much received in the

country; then I submit to the Senator whether it would not be the duty

of the Senate, before receiving my credentials, to inquire into their

origin.

The debate continued, when Mr. Sherman, of Ohio, moved that the

credentials lie on the table. The motion was adopted,--Yeas 29,

Nays 13. Mr. Segar’s claim to a seat was never prosecuted.

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