KEIR HARDIE'S QUESTIONS.

Directed at Sir Edward Grey, British Minister for Foreign Affairs, in

House of Commons, Aug. 27.

_Mr. Keir Hardie_ (Merthyr Tydvil, Lab.) asked the Secretary for Foreign

Affairs whether the suggestions for a peace settlement made by the

German Ambassador, ["White Paper," Page 66, Item No. 123,] together with

his invitation to the Foreign Secretary to put forward proposals of his

own which would be acceptable as a basis for neutrality, were submitted

to and considered by the Cabinet; and, if not, why proposals involving

such far-reaching possibilities were thus rejected.

_Sir E. Grey_ (Northumberland, Berwick)--These were personal suggestions

made by the Ambassador on Aug. 1, and without authority to alter the

conditions of neutrality proposed to us by the German Chancellor in No.

85 in the "White Paper"--Miscellaneous, No. 6, [1914.]

The Cabinet did, however, consider most carefully the next morning--that

is, Sunday, Aug. 2--the conditions on which we could remain neutral, and

came to the conclusion that respect for the neutrality of Belgium must

be one of these conditions. ["Hear, hear!"] The German Chancellor had

already been told on July 30 that we could not bargain that way.

On Monday, Aug. 3, I made a statement in the House accordingly. I had

seen the German Ambassador again at his own request on Monday, and he

urged me most strongly, though he said that he did not know the plans of

the German military authorities, not to make the neutrality of Belgium

one of our conditions when I spoke in the House. It was a day of great

pressure, for we had another Cabinet in the morning, and I had no time

to record the conversation, and therefore it does not appear in the

"White Paper"; but it was impossible to withdraw that condition [loud

cheers] without becoming a consenting party to the violation of the

treaty, and subsequently to a German attack on Belgium.

After I spoke in the House we made to the German Government the

communication described in No. 153 in the "White Paper" about the

neutrality of Belgium. Sir Edward Goschen's report of the reply to that

communication had not been received when the "White Paper" was printed

and laid. It will be laid before Parliament to complete the "White

Paper."

I have been asked why I did not refer to No. 123 in the "White Paper"

when I spoke in the House on Aug. 3. If I had referred to suggestions to

us as to conditions of neutrality I must have referred to No. 85, the

proposals made, not personally by the Ambassador, but officially by the

German Chancellor, which were so condemned by the Prime Minister

subsequently, and this would have made the case against the German

Government much stronger than I did make it in my speech. ["Hear,

hear!"] I deliberately refrained from doing that then.

Let me add this about personal suggestions made by the German

Ambassador, as distinct from communications made on behalf of his

Government. He worked for peace; but real authority at Berlin did not

rest with him and others like him, and that is one reason why our

efforts for peace failed. [Loud cheers.]

_Mr. Keir Hardie_--May I ask whether any attempt was made to open up

negotiations with Germany on the basis of suggestions here set forth by

the German Ambassador?

_Sir E. Grey_--The German Ambassador did not make any basis of

suggestions. It was the German Chancellor who made the basis of

suggestions. The German Ambassador, speaking on his own personal

initiative and without authority, asked whether we would formulate

conditions on which we would be neutral. We did go into that question,

and those conditions were stated to the House and made known to the

German Ambassador.

_Mr. Keir Hardie_ [who was received with cries of "Oh!" from all parts

of the House]--May I ask whether the German authorities at Berlin

repudiated the suggestions of their Ambassador in London, and whether

any effort at all [renewed cries of "Oh!" and "Order!"] was made to find

out how far the German Government would have agreed to the suggestions

put before them by their own Ambassador?

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