Mrs. PAINE. I wondered, listening to him, whether he really was----

Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, please. Before we get to what you wondered

about, exhaust your recollection as to what he said, what others might

have said on the subjects in his presence about which he talked.

Mrs. PAINE. That is all I can think of.

Mr. JENNER. You mentioned, also, Mrs. Paine, that there was discussed

that evening the subject of his return to America.

Mrs. PAINE. Obviously, yes.

Mr. JENNER. Why he returned, was that subject discussed?

Mrs. PAINE. Not very much, no. I can't recall any specifics relating to

that.

Mr. JENNER. All you can recall, I take it, at the moment, is that there

was an allusion to the subject?

Mrs. PAINE. Well, he was clearly here, yes. He had come back,

and--well, I have to put it in terms of what I guess or what I feel was

his reaction. I can't give you a specific recall.

Mr. JENNER. We have no objection to your doing that. We would like

to have you first state all you can recall as to what specifically

happened in this instance. How did Mr. Oswald treat or regard--what

relationship did you gather existed between Marina and her husband,

a cordial one as of that occasion, separating from what you learned

afterward, but just this initial instance. What impression did you have?

Mrs. PAINE. Almost none. There was very little contact between them

during the evening. He spoke English to those that were asking them

questions. She was either in the bedroom by herself trying to get the

little baby to go to sleep, or in the kitchen speaking Russian to the

De Mohrenschildts. I listened more than I spoke in that situation.

Mr. JENNER. When Mr. Oswald was in the living room with you ladies and

gentlemen, the conversation was in English, was it not?

Mrs. PAINE. Yes.

Mr. JENNER. I take it, then, that when Marina returned to the room

Russian was spoken, at least by those who had command of the Russian

language.

Mrs. PAINE. When she was in the same room, there was more than one

conversation going on, and in two languages.

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