Mr. DULLES. To refresh my recollection, there was about 2 days or----

Mr. LIEBELER. 8 days before.

Mr. RANKIN. It was on the 10th.

Senator COOPER. Did he indicate in any way that he knew about General

Walker at that time?

Mr. PAINE. We seemed to agree at least superficially that in thinking

the far right was unfortunate in its thoughts.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did he say anything or do anything that would lead you to

believe that he planned an attack on General Walker?

Mr. PAINE. Absolutely not.

Senator COOPER. Did he indicate in any way that he knew about General

Walker's activities and beliefs and position on public affairs?

Mr. PAINE. When I went to the ACLU meeting he then got up, stood up and

reported what had happened at the meeting of the far right which had

occurred at convention hall the day before, U.N. Day, they called it

U.S. Day, and I think Walker had spoken then.

From this I gathered that he was doing more or less the same thing--I

thought he was, I didn't inquire how he spent his free time but I

supposed he was going around to right wing groups being familiarizing

himself for whatever his purposes were as I was.

Senator COOPER. Is that prior to the conversation you have talked about?

Mr. PAINE. No; this is after this conversation.

Senator COOPER. What?

Mr. PAINE. This is after this conversation and I only had this, this

was the only concrete evidence I had of how he spent, might have spent

some of his time. It happened in the ACLU meeting in late October. I

suppose he was familiar with the right-wing groups and activities, and

movements. And certainly familiar with Walker; yes.

Mr. LIEBELER. Confining the Senator's question to the meeting in April,

he didn't indicate in any way that he was familiar with Walker's

attitude or activities?

Mr. PAINE. He was familiar with Walker. He knew who Walker was, there

was no doubt about that. We were talking about Walker.

Representative FORD. To find some common ground.

Mr. DULLES. He didn't say he knew where Walker lived or anything of

that kind. That didn't come up?

Mr. LIEBELER. Did he indicate any understanding to you at that April

meeting of Walker's attitude?

Mr. PAINE. I don't think he singled out Walker as--I had the impression

that he was quite familiar with Walker and probably familiar with

the names of various right-wing groups, shall we say, the Christian

Science, not the Christian Science, I have forgotten the names of

various organizations.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you relate to Oswald this story about Walker speaking

at the meeting or the ceremony at which the immigrants were given their

citizenship?

Mr. PAINE. I believe I did; yes. I believe that is what I said about

Walker at the time.

Mr. LIEBELER. What was his response to that?

Mr. PAINE. And I think he didn't say much. I think he smiled and nodded

his head and did that kind of thing. He may have said just a few words.

Mr. LIEBELER. Did you take it that Oswald agreed with the views that

you expressed?

Mr. PAINE. Yes; I did.

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