Representative FORD. But leaving----

Mr. GREGORY. But, otherwise, I would say it would be rather unusual,

rather unusual for a person who lived in the Soviet Union for 17 months

that he would speak so well that a native Russian would not be sure

whether he was born in that country or not.

Representative FORD. That would be a very unusual kind of a person?

Mr. GREGORY. It would be, yes.

Representative FORD. Or a person who had unusual training?

Mr. GREGORY. Right, or unusual ability or training, yes, that is right.

Representative FORD. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

The CHAIRMAN. Thank you very much, Mr. Gregory. You have been very

helpful.

(Whereupon, at 1 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)

_Monday, March 16, 1964_

TESTIMONY OF COMDR. JAMES J. HUMES, COMDR. J. THORNTON BOSWELL, AND LT.

COL. PIERRE A. FINCK

The President's Commission met at 2 p.m. on March 16, 1964, at 200

Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C.

Present were Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman; Senator John Sherman

Cooper, Representative Gerald R. Ford, John J. McCloy, and Allen W.

Dulles, members.

Also present were J. Lee Rankin, general counsel; Francis W. H. Adams,

assistant counsel; Norman Redlich, assistant counsel; Arlen Specter,

assistant counsel; and Charles Murray, observer.

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