Mr. SPECTER. Just a minute. You proceeded from point "Y" on in a
generally northerly direction to Pacific and then in what direction did
you go on Pacific, this would be in an easterly direction?
Mr. WORRELL. I went east.
Mr. SPECTER. You went in an easterly direction how many blocks down
Pacific?
Mr. WORRELL. I went down to Market and from Market I went on Ross.
Mr. SPECTER. You went left on Market down to Ross, and then?
Mr. WORRELL. From Ross I went all the way to Ervay.
Mr. SPECTER. Where were you heading for at that time?
Mr. WORRELL. For the bus stop near my mother's office. And I rode the
bus from there out to the school and hitchhiked the rest of the way to
Farmers Branch.
Mr. SPECTER. All right. When did you first report to any official what
you had seen and heard on this occasion?
Mr. WORRELL. Well, I turned the TV on early next morning to see what
had happened, and Chief Curry was making a plea----
Senator COOPER. Is that going to become a part of the evidence at this
point?
Mr. WORRELL. Chief Curry was making a plea for anyone who had seen the
shooting, would they please come down and make a statement. So I called
the Farmer Branch police, and told them, and they come and picked me
up, and they called the Dallas police, and they come way out there and
picked me up and took me downtown to make a statement and brought me
back home.
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Worrell, before we leave this Exhibit 361, are you
able to testify as to the accuracy of the scale drawing here which
represents the part of it that you have testified about, specifically
the presence of the Texas School Book Depository Building on the
northwest corner of Elm and Houston. Is that the accurate location of
that building?
Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. And is it an accurate reproduction of the intersection of
Elm and Houston leading into the parkway on Elm Street?
Mr. WORRELL. As far as this?
Mr. SPECTER. Yes.
Mr. WORRELL. Yes.
Mr. SPECTER. As far as all the parts you have testified about Elm and
Houston. Is it accurate that Pacific is one block in the northerly
direction away from Elm Street?
Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. And Ross is another block, generally, in a northerly
direction away from Pacific?
Mr. WORRELL. No, Ross is over here. This is Record Street.
Mr. SPECTER. Well, first there is Elm, then there is Pacific, and then
there is Ross. Is that much accurate as the map shows it to be, is that
the way the streets are laid out?
Mr. WORRELL. I think so.
Mr. SPECTER. How about the general width of Houston Street in relation
to the general width of the Texas School Depository Building, is that
about right?
Mr. WORRELL. I don't know, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. All right, that is fine.
At the same time that we have marked Exhibit 361, Mr. Chairman, I would
like to use the next number in sequence, No. 362 to mark the other half
of this same exhibit which is designated Texas School Book Depository
floor plan of the first floor, which we will not use at this time, but
I would like to mark it in sequence.
And at this time I ask that Commission Exhibits Nos. 359, 360, 361, and
362 be admitted into evidence.
Senator COOPER. So ordered. Let those exhibits be admitted as part of
the evidence.
(The documents referred to, heretofore marked Commission Exhibits Nos.
359, 360, 361, and 362 were admitted into evidence.)
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Worrell, you had told us that you heard a plea by
Chief of Police Curry for all witnesses to come forward.
Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. And you heard that plea on the 23d of November?
Mr. WORRELL. It was on Saturday.
Mr. SPECTER. What action, if any, did you take in response to that
request?
Mr. WORRELL. I called on the phone to the Farmers Branch police.
Mr. SPECTER. You called who?
Mr. WORRELL. The Farmers Branch police.
Mr. SPECTER. I see. And what did you do then?
Mr. WORRELL. Well, I told them what I had seen and they said, "Well,
stay there and we will come and get you."
Mr. SPECTER. Did they come and get you?
Mr. WORRELL. Oh, yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you then tell the police what you had seen and heard?
Mr. WORRELL. I told a Lt. Butler what I had seen, and I don't know
if--they placed the call into the Dallas police and something like an
hour later they came to pick me up there.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you make a statement or take an affidavit on what you
had seen and heard?
Mr. WORRELL. To the Dallas police?
Mr. SPECTER. Yes.
Mr. WORRELL. Oh, yes, sir. I made a statement and signed five of them.
Mr. SPECTER. I will show you a paper which is marked Commission Exhibit
363 which purports to be an affidavit bearing your signature.
Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Let me ask you first of all if that is your signature?
Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. And would you take just a minute, take your time and read
that affidavit over, please.
Have you had a chance to read that over, Mr. Worrell?
Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you tell us that you signed five different statements
or five copies of the same statement?
Mr. WORRELL. Five copies of the same statement.
Mr. SPECTER. Is this the statement which you signed in affidavit form
at that time?
Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.