Well----

Representative FORD. Where was this statement made, or testimony given?

Mr. LANE. By Truly?

Representative FORD. Yes.

Mr. LANE. This was reported very widely in probably dozens or scores

of newspapers. The New York Times carried that, as did many other

publications--direct quotations from Truly who was interviewed.

Then the next thing we heard from the prosecution in their opening or

closing statement to the television cameras, after Oswald was killed

was that--the next we hear of Oswald he was on a bus. Well, if Oswald

boarded the bus where the busdriver claims he did, then Oswald walked a

distance, in order to secure a bus which is going to take him directly

back to the Book Depository Building, which one would think he was

trying to flee after assassinating the President.

I would refer you to his story by Hugh Ainsworth in the Dallas Morning

News published during the first week after the assassination. Hugh

Ainsworth and Larry Grove published on November 28 in the Dallas

Morning News--this is headed "Oswald Planned To Ride By Scene"--in

which there are statements from the busdriver that--named C. J.

McWatters, in which Mr. McWatters indicates that Oswald entered the bus

at Elm and Griffin, and further indicates that the bus was going to

go seven blocks further west and turn at Houston Street, exactly the

scene of the assassination, or at least the scene of the Texas Book

Depository. So Oswald traveled somehow some seven blocks in order to

secure a bus which is going to take him back to the place that he left.

Now, although I have talked to Mr. Ainsworth, and he tells me that the

story is absolutely correct, and he questioned Mr. McWatters quite

thoroughly, and he will so testify, I believe, if he is asked--Mr.

Ainsworth will--and the affidavit which Mr. McWatters signed, or which

the busdriver signed, he does not state that Oswald walked seven blocks

and was going to get on a bus which was going to take him back. Indeed,

he states that he picked him up about Elm and Houston Street, at the

Book Depository Building. But the busdriver indicates that that story

in his affidavit is not true. He indicated that after the affidavit was

drawn and signed by him.

Mr. RANKIN. What did you say was not true, Mr. Lane--which part of it?

Mr. LANE. The affidavit. Mr. McWatters indicates that the affidavit in

which--let me start that again.

There is an affidavit from the busdriver, which I am sure you have,

which shows that according to his statement Oswald came into the bus

at Elm and Houston Street. However, the busdriver since that time has

indicated that Oswald came into the bus seven blocks from Elm and

Houston Street, and had entered a bus which was going to take him

to Elm and Houston Street. Elm and Houston Street of course is the

location of the Book Depository Building.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, when you say since that time he has indicated that,

you mean to you or to someone else?

Mr. LANE. To those two reporters for the Dallas Morning News with whom

I discussed--one of them--I discussed this specifically. And he said

that every word in that story is absolutely accurate, that he went to

see the busdriver, and had a prolonged interview with him, and went

over this in great detail with him. I think these two reporters will

testify as to what the busdriver told them in their interview with him.

Mr. RANKIN. But they have not published this later story that you are

telling about.

Mr. LANE. Yes, they have. That is the date that I gave you. The Dallas

Morning News, on Thursday, November 28, under the headline "Oswald

Planned To Ride By Scene".

Mr. RANKIN. Do you want to leave that with us?

Mr. LANE. I wonder if copies can be made of everything.

Mr. RANKIN. Yes.

Mr. LANE. Then I will be happy to leave it.

Mr. RANKIN. The story you were just referring to in the Dallas Morning

News is Commission Exhibit 343.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 343 for

identification and received in evidence.)

Mr. LANE. That's correct.

Well, now, Oswald allegedly had shot the President and has walked some,

talked to an officer, was calm, walked some seven blocks to find a bus

which was going to take him back to where he left, and then got off and

got--entered into a taxi after he had walked some two blocks from where

he left the bus. And this taxi he entered of course a minute before the

President was shot, if the taxi driver's log is accurate--after Oswald

had done all these things, after allegedly shooting the President and

the Governor.

Then the taxi driver drove him directly past his own home, according to

the statement and--past Oswald's Dallas rooming house, until he arrived

at a scene about a half a mile beyond Oswald's house, where Oswald then

left the taxi, and then walked or ran home to secure a jacket--leaving

behind, although one would assume he is now giving considering to

escaping, the $150 in the dresser drawer, and taking just his jacket

with him.

Mr. RANKIN. Which dresser drawer?

Mr. LANE. This is in Dallas.

Mr. RANKIN. Not at the Paine's?

Mr. LANE. Not at the Paine's. I do not know if there was money at the

Paine's, but if he had money there, he left that behind the night

before, knowing he was going to----

Mr. RANKIN. But the $150 you are speaking of was in his rooming house

at Dallas.

Mr. LANE. Yes.

Mr. RANKIN. Do you have any affidavit or information in support of that

statement about the $150?

Mr. LANE. I do not have an affidavit. I have the statement of a

reporter who was told that--he was told this by a police officer who

was present when the money was found in the Dallas rooming house. I

have his statement. I can again ask for his permission to release that.

Mr. RANKIN. Would you do that, please.

Mr. LANE. Yes, sir.

Senator COOPER. Mr. Chairman--perhaps it has been done, but I think it

would be proper in all cases in which he has referred to conversations

that he has had with individuals who made statements to him about some

aspect of this matter, and whose names he has not identified, that if

he could give to the Commission in all of those cases the names of the

individuals who gave him this information.

Mr. LANE. Yes, sir.

Senator COOPER. I mean at sometime--don't you think?

Mr. RANKIN. Yes, sir, it would be very helpful.

Mr. LANE. Yes, sir. I think there are only two occasions where I

indicated I had to check the source, and one is the name of the rifle

association board member whose name I will be happy to give to you, but

I just do not recall it--my office has that.

Senator COOPER. I did not remember that you gave the name of this

individual who told you that some policeman had told him that he had

been present when the $150 was found.

Mr. LANE. Yes; that is one.

Senator COOPER. Did you give that name?

Mr. LANE. No; I did not give that name.

Mr. RANKIN. You said you were going to ask him his permission.

Mr. LANE. Yes; that's correct.

Then Oswald took a taxi, which took him approximately a half mile

beyond his own house, his own room in Dallas, and he either walked or

ran back to get his jacket--although it was a very warm day in Dallas.

That day Mrs. Kennedy said later on that, reviewing the moment before

the President was shot--she said she saw this overpass ahead and looked

forward to being under it for a moment because there would be some

brief shade to protect them from the powerful sun that day.

Well, Oswald ran home to get his jacket. He left the house, saw

a police car parked, went up to the police car, according to the

affidavit of Mrs. Markham, leaned on the car, and when the officer

came out, he shot him to death, and then he went to the movies. And in

the movies, and just before he went into the Texas Theatre, he was so

extremely agitated that a gentleman on the outside of the theatre--I

think his name is John Brewer--I am not certain--you have that

affidavit, I am sure--indicated that Oswald was acting very agitated,

the cashier made the same statement, and changing from seat to seat.

The police were called and he was arrested.

Of course, one would wonder why Oswald, who might have thought that

he had made his getaway while in the Texas Theatre unobserved, would

become so extremely agitated, when just a moment after he allegedly

shot the President and the Governor, with the policeman charging up the

stairs, pointing a pistol at him, about to arrest him for these two

terrible crimes, he was calm, according to Mr. Truly, but he became

agitated only when he thought he had secured his getaway.

I think those of us who saw, as we all did, I guess, Oswald on

television in his brief appearance would conclude that he seemed, even

while in custody and charged with these two crimes, somewhat calm under

the circumstances--calm when charged with the assassination, calm a

moment after killing the President, when a policeman pointed a pistol

at him, but agitated only in the theatre, and just before going to the

theatre when he might have concluded that he was then in the clear.

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