MR. W. W. GRENVILLE TO LORD TEMPLE.

Pall Mall, March 17th, 1733.

My dear Brother,

I received your packet of the 12th instant last night, and

immediately sent to Lord Sydney your despatch of resignation. He

forwarded it to the King, who immediately directed him to send

me to Buckingham House, where I was with him above two hours.

I felt myself under much difficulty about your letter. It was

evidently written on the supposition of a Government being

formed by the Duke of Portland and Fox, in conjunction with Lord

North; and to that point its whole reasoning was directed. Now

the present situation in which we are, seems to tend to some

different solution; and this idea was very much strengthened by

the King's note to Lord Sydney, desiring to see me, in order to

talk with me about your staying, _at least for the present_.

This being the case, I was apprehensive that some parts of your

letter might possibly pledge you further to him than you would

like in other contingencies which might turn up; and I also

thought that a letter of that sort would come with more force

from you in answer to what I should undoubtedly be commissioned

to say to you. To this was added a most serious apprehension,

which had struck both Jemmy and myself very forcibly, as to the

prudence of committing yourself to him by so very strong

language on the subject of the Duke of Portland and Fitzpatrick

by name, and under your hand-writing; which paper, even

supposing no ill use was ever to be made of it by the person to

whom it is addressed, might, in the space possibly even of a few

hours, by any sudden accident, fall into _other_ hands, perhaps

at this moment the very worst into which it could fall.

Under the pressure of these two ideas, and having very little

time for deliberation, I adopted that measure which I thought at

all events the safest; as, if the delivery of the letter at this

moment, and in the altered state of things, was wrong, it could

not ever be recalled; while, if you thought me wrong in

withholding it, the error could be productive only of a short

delay--certainly not wholly immaterial, but I should hope not

very important. At the same time I own that I felt much

difficulty in withholding it, as it appeared to me so admirably

drawn up, and so well calculated to produce the effect intended

by it, and so very unexceptionable in all its parts, except that

which I have stated before--the mention of individuals by name

(especially those with whom you are living on good terms), in a

manner which, however proper for conversation, is, I think,

infinitely hazardous when committed to paper.

Still, however, I hope that every effect intended by it may be

produced as well, and possibly better, by the letter which you

will of course send to him in answer to this conversation. I am

sensible that, in using this discretion, I have taken much upon

me; but I am sure I need not enlarge upon the motive; and I

cannot help flattering myself, that the step itself will meet

your approbation, especially as the conjecture from the words of

the King's letter was justified in great measure by what passed

during so long a conversation, in which, from the inconceivable

quickness with which the King ran on upon the different subjects

of it, I found it very difficult to put in even the little which

I thought it right to say.

When I first came in, he stated, with many very flattering

expressions to you, the concern which he had felt at the idea of

your resignation; that he had sent to me in order that he might

have an opportunity of letting you into all the circumstances of

the present situation, which he thought the most calamitous into

which any country had ever been brought; that the kingdom was

split into parties, not as had been formerly the case--two great

bodies of men acting under the different denominations of Whigs

and Tories, and upon different principles of conduct--but into

factions, which had avowedly no other view than that of forcing

themselves, at all hazards, into office; that before you took

any step, he wished you to be fully apprized of the

circumstances, which he would for that purpose detail to me, as

he hoped that your letter had been written in the idea of the

Government falling into the hands of persons of the description

stated above.

I answered, that I believed you had certainly had that event in

view, as one which the circumstances of the time rendered too

probable. He then went into a long detail (with a great number

of digressions upon the different political subjects of the day)

of what had passed since Monday's vote, particularly between him

and Lord North, of whom he spoke in terms of strong resentment

and disgust.

He stated, that when Lord Shelburne could no longer remain, he

had first endeavoured to persuade Pitt to suffer the Treasury to

devolve upon him, and that at one time he had entertained the

most flattering hopes of success; but being disappointed in

this, he had tried the Cabinet all round, but none had the

spirit to stand forth. He had then sent to Lord North (after

a week's delay to try other arrangements, particularly one in

which the H. C. and the seals of the Secretary of State had

been offered to and pressed upon Ths. Pitt), to know whether

he was open to negotiation, or prevented by this coalition; that

when, in consequence of this message, he saw him, he had at

first tried whether he would accept the Treasury; because, much

as he disliked them both, if he was to choose, he must certainly

prefer Lord North to Fox. When Lord North declined this, he

proposed that an arrangement should be made, leaving the

Treasury open to some person of neither party, to be named by

him afterwards; that Lord North left him with this proposal, but

the next day told him that Mr. Fox insisted upon the Treasury

for the Duke of Portland. After some time, he consented to this

point also, and then desired that Lord North would bring him a

written arrangement, that he might be enabled to see the whole,

and form his judgment upon all the dismissals and appointments

which were intended. After two days more, he had sent for Lord

North, who had told him that he had no such arrangement to bring

him, for that difficulties had arisen between them; that Fox

insisted upon removing the Chancellor, in order that the Seals

might be put into commission. To this the King objected very

strongly, as he had expressed his desire that the arrangement

might be made upon a broad basis; and that nothing could be more

different from such an idea than the dismissal of the

Chancellor, without having any person to substitute in his room.

Lord North then said that another difficulty had arisen. He had

named Lord Stormont for the Secretaryship of State; but this had

been objected to; and Lord Stormont had refused to accept of any

other situation. The King again asked him whether, this being

the case, he would undertake it separately. This was declined.

Yesterday evening, at five, Lord North was again at the Queen's

House, when the King told him that he desired it might be

understood that it was not he who broke off the arrangement upon

the idea of keeping the Lord Chancellor; that, on the contrary,

he desired it might be understood that he had expressed no

determination, nor would he express any, upon a particular part

of the proposed arrangement, till the whole was submitted to

him. Therefore, if they thought to obviate the difficulties

which they found in making it by laying the onus upon him, he

was not fairly dealt with.

This finished the detail. His observations upon it were nearly

what is implied in the last sentence: that he believed, when

they came to treat about the arrangement, they found infinite

difficulty in coming to any agreement, and had therefore

resolved to throw the burthen upon him; that, in the meantime,

he was using every endeavour to form a Government; that he hoped

your resignation was only to be considered as relative to the

event which you then thought likely to happen; that undoubtedly

_in some cases_ it would be impossible for you to stay there

with honour to yourself; that unless you met with full support

from hence, the Government in Ireland could not go on; but, in

the meantime, he desired I would write to you, to express his

wish that you would take no precipitate step till something was

finally settled.

This, I think, was the main jut of the conversation to this

point; though I have thrown it much more into form than it was

spoken--as it was interrupted by a great variety of digressions:

upon the coalition, in the reprobating of which I took care to

join with him most heartily; upon Fox, whom he loaded with every

expression of abhorrence; upon the Duke of Portland, against

whom he was little less violent; upon Lord North, to whose

conduct he imputed all the disasters of the country; upon

American Independence, which seems to have been a most bitter

pill indeed; upon associations and reforms, clubs,

gaming-houses, aristocratic cabals, &c., &c.; together with much

inquiry into the state of Ireland, and the characters and

conduct of people there; and a long detail about Lord Bellamont,

who he believed was crack-brained, and of whom he told two

curious stories of audiences which he had asked, and in which he

at last insisted that, unless the King would make him reparation

for the second disgrace he had suffered by the nomination of

Lord Arran, by suffering him to kiss hands, on or before St.

Patrick's Day, for an English Baronage or an Irish Marquisate,

given to him, or given to Lord Mountrath and entailed upon him,

he would come no more to Court; which curious condition, you may

believe, has not been complied with; and consequently, said the

King, I shall be delivered from the trouble of seeing him.

You will easily suppose that I have not been able to recollect

the precise words of a conversation so very diffuse, upon so

many different subjects, and which lasted from eleven at night

till past one this morning.

Upon the whole, what I collect from his conversation, and from

the sort of impression which the whole tenour of his language,

rather than from any one particular expression, is that in the

case which you supposed, and upon which you acted, nothing could

be more agreeable to him than your resignation; especially, as

he observed to me several times, that it was impossible he could

wish that such a Government should last; and mentioned a message

which he sent through Lord Ashburton to Lord Shelburne, that he

should consider him as a disgraced man if, after their conduct

towards him, he ever "_supported them in Government_, or joined

them in opposition;" (these were the precise words he used to

me.) I collect the same idea also from the expression of _some

cases_ in which you could not stay, and the eagerness with which

he joined in with me when I took occasion to observe to him that

the system of the Duke of Portland and Fox in Ireland had been

so different from yours, as to put you under an impossibility of

remaining under them. This point, therefore, I conceive to be

clear, that in such an event, your resignation would be as

acceptable to him as I think it would be honourable to yourself.

But from the request he has made you, and from the particular

pains he seems to take to throw the onus (as he called it) of

breaking off the negotiation with the Duke of Portland and Lord

North upon their shoulders, I think we must conclude that he

considers that as being entirely at an end, and that he has

something else in view; though what that something else can

possibly be, I am utterly at a loss to imagine.

At the same time, I think the opportunity of doing a handsome

thing is too fair to be neglected. If I were therefore to advise

you, it would be to write to the King, stating that nothing

could be further from your intention than the throwing any

embarrassment in his way at a moment when, on the contrary, you

would rather wish to do everything in your power, &c., &c. This

would lead naturally to the first part of your letter, about the

manner of your having accepted the Government of Ireland. You

might then say, that the letter of resignation was written on

the idea of the probability of those men being called to His

Majesty's counsels who had, &c., &c. That under such a

Government you could not have flattered yourself with the hopes

of being useful to His Majesty, for the reasons assigned, &c.,

&c., which I think it is impossible for you to detail better

than they are there stated, except in the single instance of the

mentioning of names, with no very flattering comment, which I

would (if I might be allowed to do it) deprecate in the

strongest manner, for reasons very sufficiently obvious. You

might then, I should think, go on to say, that in obedience to

His Majesty's gracious dispositions, you would continue to hold

your situation till something is settled; in the hopes, however,

if it ended in such a Government as you could not serve under

consistently with your character, or the system of your

Administration, you might then be permitted, &c., &c.

In this manner I should hope that you would lose nothing, except

a little time--not very important to you--by the non-delivery of

your letter.

The Duke of Portland had a meeting last night, to which were

summoned all Fox's people, and all the country gentlemen who had

formerly acted with them. The Duke stated to them what had

passed, and told them that the whole had broken off upon the

King's insisting upon the Chancellor and Lord Stormont. This is

pretty curious, at the moment that the King was stating to Lord

North that such a reason could not be assigned with truth. The

Duke said, however, that Lord North was then with the King, and

therefore hoped that nothing might be done till they heard the

result. This was applied to Lord Surrey, who had expressed an

intention of moving an address.

What passed between the King and Lord North, I have told you

above, as it was stated to me. It is not, therefore, wholly

impossible that the negotiation may be resumed, as the King's

object seems to be to set them quarelling between themselves

about the different parts of this arrangement. At all events, I

think your letter cannot but do good, and I will certainly

remain here to deliver it.

Acting strictly on this sound advice, Lord Temple addressed to His

Majesty the following letter, in which he enters at length into the

peculiar obstructions to which he had been exposed through the whole

period of his Administration in Ireland, and unreservedly submits for

His Majesty's consideration the reasons which led to his resignation.

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