MR. W. W. GRENVILLE TO LORD TEMPLE.

Pall Mall, Jan. 31st, 1783.

My dear Brother,

While you are persecuted by Lords Arran, Aldborough, Altamnt,

and _omne quod incipit_ in A, I have had daily application from

Lord Clermont, which I have promised to submit formally to you.

His family and connexions in Ireland and their weight is the

first thing he states. To this I gave the answer of

non-residence. He says that he always resides during the

Parliament winter; that he has a house and establishment both in

Dublin and in the country; and that he is more a resident than

Lord Clanricarde or Lord Courtown. I then stated the

impossibility of increasing the number, which had been a

particular object with the King. His solution to that was, that

when the King named sixteen, he certainly did not mean to

include himself; and that the Thistle is twelve without the

Sovereign. He proposes therefore that, as he has always been one

of those talked of for it, and _as his friends make it_ a point

with him to apply, you should make it sixteen without the King,

by adding his name.

You will therefore be so good as either to send him from

yourself, or to commission me to write to him, a formal answer,

_tel qu'il vous plaira_.

In general, the list is approved; but they object to the

insertion of Lord Bechoe's name, and to the omission of Lord

Meath's.

Fox and his people are very industrious in turning it into

ridicule, by which I should think they would not increase their

Irish popularity. And what is ridiculous, is that at the same

time the Duke of Portland is taking pains to persuade all

Irishmen that he meant to have done the same if he had staid

long enough.

I have seen Edmonson, who has this day given me in a proposal,

which you will not think much more moderate than you did his

bill for the escutcheons (which, by the bye, he says you have

never paid).

I should think the twenty guineas per Knight for the

superintendence might very well be reduced to giving him _pro

tempore_, and for this installation only, one of the heralds'

places, in lieu of all travelling expenses and allowances. The

Painters' Bill, as they call it, is fixed for the Bath, and

might, I should think, reasonably be given to him at the same

rate.

He is making out copies of the drawings; one or two alterations

he has suggested which strike me. The first is the knots in the

Collar. If they are gold, and the harp likewise, the whole will

look, I think, too like a Lord Mayor's gold chain, and will make

no show; nothing being more dull to the eye than plain gold. He

wants to have them enamelled, so as to be like the strings and

tassels of the mantle.

He will also send a drawing of the Badge, with the wreath of

trefoil drawn in single leaves, instead of the full wreath,

which looks, as he says truly, like a civic crown or oak

garland. But this you will see in the drawing, and which looks

best.

I wish that there was a statute to fix the plates of the Knights

to remain in the stall in which they were first installed. In

the chapel at Windsor they are obliged now to put them up loose,

in order to their being removed; the consequence is, that they

are frequently lost. Besides, the plates of the first sixteen

might then be fixed in the centre of each stall as a mark of

distinction for the founders.

In the Garter there are no plates in the Sovereign's stall. I

should think that the Grand Master at each installation might be

allowed to put up his, as the banner must of course always be

the Sovereign's.

Edmonson proposes that he should have one of each article of the

Painters' Bill made here, to carry with him as a pattern. If you

see no objection, he might do Mornington's for this purpose. An

advantage might be given to Edmonson by authorizing him to

publish an account of the ceremony, with the arms and pedigrees

of the Knights, &c., &c., to which they would of course

subscribe.

Is the jewellery--I mean collars and badges--to be done in

Ireland? I believe there is no workmanship at all of that sort

there.

Townshend will, I believe, send the approbation to-night. It has

waited upon an idea of the Prince of Wales, who gave it out to

everybody that he had sent in to the King to ask for it.[1] This

was the day after the King had given his approbation to the

list, and named Prince Edward. I thought it right to wait a day

or two, to know if the King would speak to him about it. He

never has; and Townshend is to mention the Order again to-day,

and send the approbation to night or to-morrow. Adieu.

Ever yours,

W. W. G.

[Footnote 1: The Premier did ask for it, but was refused.]

The "Coalition Administration" was now beginning to "loom" dimly in the

distance. Various changes were whispered, and from day to day new

reports got abroad of negotiations with Lord North's party. The first

step towards the consummation of an alliance may be said to have been

already taken when Townshend, abandoning the traditions of his party,

told Mr. Grenville that he saw no reason for proscribing all Lord

North's people from _office_, although he objected to giving them any

share in the _Government_. The meaning of this ingenious distinction is

clear. The Administration was tottering, and the only chance they saw of

strengthening their position was to buy off the opposition of the

followers of the late Cabinet. To swamp their opponents and at the same

time keep the actual power in their own hands, was a piece of strategy

which might be expected from the general character of Lord Shelburne's

tactics. But it failed, and failed conspicuously. Mr. Grenville

discerned clearly the danger of this clever plan, from which he could

anticipate no other result than that of sapping the foundations of the

existing Government. In the letters that follow we have a close running

commentary on the state of parties, and the rumours that hourly agitated

the public mind during this interval of intestine struggle. Mr.

Grenville considered the circumstances of the Ministry hopeless, as, we

gather from his previous communications, he appears to have done all

throughout. Their conduct upon the Irish Bill, which was still destined

to entail division and uneasiness, revealed to him the fatal want of

unity, earnestness and activity in their councils; and even if they had

had no perils to guard against from without, he saw sources of weakness

enough within the Cabinet itself to destroy all confidence in their

stability. There were only two parties from whose ranks the Ministry

could be recruited, and these two had hitherto acted in public life with

the fiercest animosity towards each other. The attempts that were made

to win over some of Lord North's adherents having failed, the only

alternative left was to apply to Fox. That this application was actually

made, and made in person by Pitt, who, with a thorough knowledge of the

character of Fox, believed that the most direct mode of ascertaining his

sentiments was not only the most honourable to both, but the most likely

to attain its end, either by a candid refusal or immediate acceptance,

is here authoritatively stated by Mr. Grenville. Fox's answer is

conclusive as to the real obstacle which impeded all negotiation. While

Lord Shelburne was in office nothing could be done: no party would

consent to coalesce with him. The humiliating condition to which he had

lowered the Administration, is shown in the straits to which it was now

reduced--seeking support alternately from opposite parties, and finding

its offers rejected in turn by both.

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