MR. W. W. GRENVILLE TO LORD TEMPLE.

Pall Mall, Dec. 23rd, 1782.

My dear Brother,

When I wrote last to you, I expressed considerable hopes that

this tedious business was drawing near to a conclusion, and that

Government here would at last consent to grant the happiness and

peace of Great Britain and Ireland, to solicitations that I

should have been ashamed to have employed for any private

object, however near to me. These hopes are, I must confess,

weakened by my conversation of this morning with Townshend. I

can plainly see that he is himself personally disposed to comply

with your wishes. I can as plainly see that a greater and more

powerful minister sets himself against them.

Dec. 24th, 1782.

So far I had written yesterday, when I resolved to delay writing

further to you till to-day, on account of the promise which

Townshend gave me that he would see Lord Shelburne last night,

and press him upon the subject.

I have been with Townshend again this morning, and yet have

nothing like a decided answer to give you. He told me that

Thurlow made the most difficulty, but that Dunning seems to be

entirely with us. Yesterday he said that Shelburne talked much

of the advantages of holding high language. What the tenor of

Conway's language was, I have stated to you before. Of the rest

I know nothing. I own I am rather in doubt whether Lord

Shelburne acts upon a system of resuming, or only of gaining

time; neither of them is very pleasant or flattering to you.

Townshend appears to me to be most heartily and sincerely with

you; nothing can be more explicit than his language was to that

point. He complained of irresponsible Cabinet Ministers, and

seemed to throw it upon that. I then stated your impatience,

what you must feel, and asked how you could go on? I took out of

my pocket your three letters to me, of the 12th and 14th

instant, and read him such extracts as I thought would _express_

your opinion and your impatience, and would pretty strongly

_imply_ though not _express_ your determination upon the subject

of resigning. He took the hint, and said that he could not

wonder at any resolution you might take, and that he had told

the Cabinet so. To this I answered, that it was right for me not

to conceal from _him_ (though I did not mean it as a _formal_

declaration), that you certainly would not stay a moment there,

if you found the proposal of a Bill of recognition either

negatived or put off longer. He repeated that he could not

wonder at it. He then charged me with a commission to write to

you this evening, and to say that although nothing was yet done,

he would labour to the utmost of his power that your wishes

should be complied with, and that he hoped to bring the business

to a conclusion _in a very few days_; that in the meantime he

thought that his writing an official despatch, which should not

be explicit, would be by no means pleasant to you. In this I

agreed most fully.

The difficulty, he told me, lay in bringing them to think of

anything but the peace, by which you see that business is still

_en train_.

This consideration makes me less eager than I should otherwise

be to cut the matter short. I continue to think, that if they

are sufficiently pressed, you will carry your point; because I

am fully persuaded they will not push you to the wall. In the

meantime they feel the situation into which the notice for the

House of Commons has thrown them; for Townshend expressed his

satisfaction at it to-day, and said it lay a necessity on

Government to do something.

While I am writing this, I receive your letters of the 21st. The

despatch will, I think, have a good effect in pressing the thing

forward, and assisting the exertions which I sincerely believe

Townshend will make. At the same time, as it must now be the

27th at soonest before you can receive this letter, which leaves

everything exactly where my last despatches to you did, I should

think upon the receipt of it you would do well to write a letter

to Townshend, rather demanding than requesting an immediate

answer.

What I mean is (if you should approve of the idea), that you

should say, "that after having so repeatedly stated the grounds

of your proposal, to which you can now add nothing," (because

any reasoning of yours brings on more discussion) "except that

every day gives fresh force to them, you have nothing left but

to request, as your situation entitles you to do, that you may

at last have an immediate and explicit answer, in order that on

the one hand you may not disgrace your personal honour and the

faith of Great Britain by continuing to pledge them to

assurances which are not to be performed, nor on the other hand

appear by remaining in your situation without a favourable

answer, to countenance a system which your own mind informs you

to be at once unjust and impracticable." If you think the

expressions too strong, or not sufficiently so, you will weaken

or aggravate them; but I am very impatient to receive some such

letter, which shall _not_ enter into reasons or discussion on a

subject so completely exhausted, but shall manifest your own

intention, which I am convinced will operate more strongly than

all the argument in the world.

You will perhaps say that I have already in my possession such a

paper. But I must own I feel great difficulty in fixing the

exact moment when to make use of it, and when to say that I can

no longer in justice to you give credit to assurances of an

immediate determination so often repeated and so often found

fallacious. With you, who have received none such, there is no

such difficulty. Besides, the letter in my hands can only

operate as an actual resignation on your behalf, and authorized

by you; whereas the letter from you, which I propose, would

operate as a threat, and by that means prevent, I believe, the

event itself; or if not, it would at least convince your

feelings, as well as mine, most unequivocally of the absolute

necessity for taking such a measure, as the only one by which

you could preserve either integrity of character or uprightness

of conduct. Such a letter might, if the winds do not prevent it,

be here in a week from this day; and before that time I am most

thoroughly convinced I shall receive not a single word further

than I have already. With such a letter to deliver to Townshend,

I should think myself authorized to _demand_ a Cabinet; or if I

could not obtain that, to make use of your former letter, and

desire from you that I might see the King, to state to him your

sense of the impracticability of such a system, and of the

certainty that Government will be compelled in October to make

concessions without gaining any advantage by them, infinitely

greater than what would in January conciliate the affections of

all Ireland.

One way or other, this business does most certainly draw to a

conclusion. I allow, by this proposal, one week more for them to

take their resolution. If they delay it beyond that, it is in

effect the most mortifying and the most insulting way of

refusing it that they could have adopted; and as such I think

you would do right to state it in your letter. But whichever way

it terminates, I think we shall derive the greatest advantage

from Townshend's having authorized me to promise that on the

21st something should be done in the English House of Commons,

and having sat by and acquiesced in my saying that _that_

something would, I _apprehended_, be brought forward by

Government. If it is not, I think I need not say what a

situation they stand in; and what ours will be--how much better

than if nothing had been said. On the other hand, if they do

authorize me to bring forward, or bring forward themselves, on

that day, a satisfactory Bill, we shall derive much more

advantage to Government from having given an early notice of it,

and much more personal credit from its coming through my mouth

from you, than if it had been done only by the Minister, and

kept back till the 21st.

I have had no communication with Lord Shelburne, nor have I

either seen or heard from him since I spoke in the House of

Commons. I mean, however, to-morrow to write to him on the

strength of having received fresh despatches from you, and to

press him in the strongest manner, that _the Bill to be_

proposed on the 21st, may be such as will satisfy your wishes by

satisfying the people of Ireland. What the new reason for delay

will be, God knows. In the meantime is it not inconceivable that

a man will hazard so much, in every sense of the word, so much

credit as a Minister, so much in point of character, and so much

in point of weight and support to his administration, without

its being possible for one to discover any one object under

Heaven which he is to gain by the delay? Possibly such a letter

as I wish from you may succeed in bringing him to his senses; if

not, I am sure the sooner your hands are washed of it the

better; for if the rest of your administration in Ireland is to

go on in the same manner, and you are to be left for months

together without knowing whether Government here will expressly

support or expressly contradict you, and all this only that they

may gain time, without having anything further to gain, such a

situation is neither suited for such tempers as we have, nor for

such characters as I hope we shall ever preserve together.

The real grievance seems to be, what did hang as a dead weight

upon the last administration till it pulled it down, and what

must hang as the same dead weight upon this--I mean a Cabinet of

eleven. If these are disunited, there are not wanting, even

among themselves, men to publish it to the world; and how is it

possible that they should be otherwise, except by the means of

that delightful expedient which I stated to you once before, and

which was again alluded to in yesterday's conversation. I should

hope, however, that the appearance of your resolution will put

an end to this scene of procrastination, disgraceful to you and

dangerous to the country; if it does not, I am sure the

resolution itself is most absolutely necessary to vindicate us

to ourselves, as well as to others, from the consequences which

we both foresee.

In the meantime, my dear brother, I cannot close this letter

without expressing to you the extreme pleasure and satisfaction

which I feel when, after having confided so much to my

discretion, you express yourself satisfied that, however

unsuccessful I may have been, the failure of my endeavours to

procure this long-expected answer has not been owing to any want

of zeal or judgment in me, but to those to whom the consequences

are really to be imputed, and who have on that account already

made themselves most deeply responsible both to God and their

country.

Believe me, my dear brother,

Ever most sincerely and affectionately yours,

W. W. G.

D'Ivernois is here, and going over almost immediately to Ireland

with two other _commissaires_.

If any decision should drop from the skies before I receive your

letter to Townshend, I will suppress it entirely.

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