As I developed this idea, the children said very little, only asking me

questions, until I had finished. This is how I explained it: We all

believe—we seven here—that the good is understanding, love, the

complete Divine Self, and everything which leads thereto is good. Then

everything bad is that which does not lead thereto; or, rather, that is

called bad which has not gone so far as the rest. So that the bad is not

an actual state—in this I agree with Ruth—but is a condition of good.

All pains are growing pains. Things are bad only because we already have

something better. The other day I heard Virginia saying that when reason

came into the world, creatures first knew the bad; because they saw that

the life they had lived was a bad life. So, you see, everything bad is

something which we feel to be behind us, not equal to our best

knowledge. Pain and badness are the price of progress, and we would

rather go forward and suffer than stand still and be comfortable. We

long to go forward to the good, to the vast self of complete

understanding. “A criminal,” I said, “may be a man who would have been

good if he had lived in savage times among savages, but at present he is

bad because we are ahead of him.”

“Then a bad man,” said Henry, “is one who is behind his times, or else

ahead of them.”

“Oh, no,” they protested, “not ahead of them!”

“No,” I answered, “but the man ahead of his time, who is better than his

time, may appear to be a criminal. You must see that the man who

believes in the eternal good, who knows that he is going toward unity

and complete love, is in a sense above the human law, and must discover

his own laws. He may be a criminal in the eyes of others.”

“Give us an example,” they said.

“Jesus is one example. He was crucified as a criminal.”

“Because,” said Henry, “he broke the Roman law. He refused to worship

their images, and he called himself King of the Jews.”

“And they did not know,” I answered, “in what sense he called himself

King, so they had to crucify him as a traitor. Can’t you think of some

other example? Of course, there were all the heretics of old times.”

Alfred and Henry said that Roosevelt was in a sense an example, because

he had been much blamed for exposing the truth and hurting business; but

that the hurt was an essential part of progress and good.

Ruth said: “Surely it is better to expose the truth and suffer for it,

than to go on in falsehood.”

I gave as another example the Russians, with whom, a short time ago, it

was a crime to educate the peasants; and I told how brave men and women

had been sent to Siberia for breaking the law in this respect.

“But,” I said, “this is a dangerous subject, and truly, we ought not to

have mentioned it until we could probe it to the bottom. For surely in a

democratic state one of the essential inner laws is that we shall obey

the law which our fellows have made.”

“If a law seems wrong to a man,” said Henry, “he can try to change it,

but meantime he must obey it. For instance, a man might believe in free

trade, but still he would have no right to smuggle in goods.”

“One ought to obey school-laws, I suppose,” said Marian.

“Surely,” I answered, “for the school is an institution you enter from

choice, and if you don’t like the laws you can protest by leaving. But

if there were a law unjust to your fellows, you would disobey it. Still,

even then, the best way to protest would be by a strike of the

students.”

They had a long discussion on the great crime of whispering in school,

in which I scarcely joined, as I refuse to be a petty preacher to them.

But I tried to explain to them why it was so hard for them to obey these

little laws.

“It is,” I said, “because you did not help to make the laws yourselves,

that you are tempted to break them out of mere mischief. Still, you

would not lie about it, but rather do it openly, because you feel that

truth between individuals is an inner law, the first step toward

understanding. You know I believe that, even unconsciously, we have all

always striven for this unity, this completeness that now we are going

to strive for with open eyes.”

“And all bad leads in the same direction, and comes to good,” said

Virginia.

“Now I want you to understand that clearly,” I said. “All bad things are

bad only because they do not reach up to our idea of the best. But that

bad things are turned to good, or used for good is because we use them

so; because the desire and the striving for good is so strong within us,

that we use them to fulfil that desire. It is not a necessity. It is a

matter of choice. If we wish, we can use everything for good. And we

often do so, even unconsciously. Everything strives toward that good,

which is life itself.”

“Then you believe,” said Marian, “that even every criminal has some good

in him?”

“Yes, surely,” I answered, “else he would not be here, alive, at all.

Every living being is good; and if he is not so far as we at present, he

may go farther than we some day. Surely, we will take him onward with

us, else we cannot be complete. You must see that any one who believes

the great good to be understanding love and unity, cannot be made whole

till every one is made whole with him. He needs all the world.”

“Every one must feel that,” said Marian.

“The other day, Marian,” I went on, “you said: ‘If we can never reach

the goal, what is the good of anything?’ Now, I, for one, believe in

infinite good; I believe that no matter how far we go, we shall long to

go farther, so that what now would seem unimaginably good to us might

one day seem bad. Can you imagine stagnant perfection?”

“I think,” said Marian, “that a perfectly good world would be terribly

monotonous.”

“That is what I think, too,” I answered. “What we love is the going

forward, the achieving, the striving.”

Henry said: “It is like travelling toward the horizon, and we think that

is the end. But when we reach it, we see another horizon.”

Ruth asked: “How can we strive for anything, if we don’t expect to reach

it? Is not God what we long to reach? Is not God the ideal?”

“Is not God, the real, here, now?” I answered her. “I cannot understand

Infinity or Eternity, so I say Infinity is here and Eternity is now,

because I am always here and now. So I cannot understand infinite good

and unity, but I know that here and now I must strive for it, and that

the constant striving, and getting more and ever more, is my greatest

joy. Now, Ruth, do you admit that we cannot go forward alone, that all

must go together to be complete?”

“Yes.”

“Then the whole is one, and every man and creature is a part of me.”

“If every one believed that,” said Marian, “how different, how much

better the world would be! People could not criticize each other.”

“_I_ think it would,” I said, “and I am glad you think so, too; for if

every one believed that, no one could condemn another, any more than you

could condemn your own sore finger. You might say: ‘My finger is sore,’

but you wouldn’t say: ‘My finger is very wicked, and I hate it.’”

“I believe that,” said Marian. “I am convinced mentally, but I don’t

feel it. I don’t think that I could live it yet.”

Virginia asked whether she might say for us “Abou ben Adhem,” which

expressed our idea of man and God. And she said it for us. We were all

silent for a few moments. Then I said: “And the love of even more than

man, of all creatures, of all the world.”

Marian admitted that she did not love animals. Ruth said she did. Marian

seems distressed by the fact that she cannot be perfect at once. That is

what she means when she says she is mentally convinced, but doesn’t feel

it yet. Alfred feels the same lack. These ambitious children!

“Now,” I said, “I want you to feel certain and convinced of each thing

as we go on. We all agree at present, don’t we?”

“Yes,” they answered.

“I feel as if something must be wrong, because we all agree,” I went on,

“and yet I know you are independent thinkers. Are you sure that all bad

is a condition of good, even all physical bad, such things as accidents

and loss? For instance, railroads are of value—why?”

None knew the true reason but Ruth. She said they brought nations

together.

“And the accidents on railroads,” I said, “are the price of that

progress, a price we have to pay for perfecting that system. It would be

better to avoid all accidents—as I hope we shall do one day—but,

meanwhile, we would rather take the risk than not have railroads. No one

can be convinced, however, that all bad is a condition of good, until

tried.”

“I have been tried,” answered Virginia.

They all thought themselves convinced, except Alfred. He said: “It might

be true nine times, but the tenth time it might not be true.”

“Then,” said Henry, “you would believe it were true the tenth time, even

though you didn’t understand how.”

“No,” I answered; “he would test it the tenth time. We will _know_ each

thing.”

Now we re-examined our conviction on all these questions, and went over

each point again. We probed the possibilities of atheism, and saw that

no one who faced things could be an atheist, that atheism was the result

of laziness, fear or vanity. Either a man feared to face the truth, or

could not bear to admit how little he knew. And we saw that an atheist

might be a very good man, only he would build his morality on a

philosophy he did not understand or examine. We might be good without

any religious convictions, but this conviction, this belief, would give

us a reason for goodness, and make us strong in the face of uncertainty,

temptation and trial. Henry said things were worth while only when they

were hard to do.

“There,” said I, “you have a proof of our instinctive feeling that pain

is a necessary part of progress.”

Virginia said she wanted to believe what would make her happy; that she

would choose the optimistic faith. I answered her I wanted to believe

the truth, happy or unhappy, but I had come to the conclusion at last

that the truth was very good. I told them how at their age I had been in

great doubt, how I had thought the truth might be very bad.

“Pain is real,” I said, “but we will not fear to face that, or anything

bitter, when we know it to be a condition of going onward.”

Virginia said I was shaping her thought for her. I reminded her how she

used to be my “little disciple.” All the others, and especially Marian,

said that this meeting was far more satisfying than the last; that we

had reached something definite. Marian said: “I seem to see already what

we will have to say on every subject, but we shall have no end of things

to speak of.”

THIRD MEETING

Florence and Henry were delayed and did not arrive until after four. But

before that we had already gathered about the table, and found it hard

to restrain ourselves from beginning the discussion. I said to the

children that I thought we would not speak of immortality to-day, as

there was too much that came before. I asked them whether they were

anxious to get to it. They were very anxious. Florence said: “It is such

an important subject.” Ruth said: “I believe we will all agree on

immortality.” I answered her that just there I thought we might disagree

most. Marian said she had definite ideas on the subject. I can see that

Henry has indefinite and theological ideas.

I then read aloud the little paper Marian had written on our talk of the

previous week:

“On Sunday, October 18th, our club, the Seekers, held its second

meeting. We first discussed our ideas of God. We reached the conclusion

that God is our divine self, that through God we can perceive, but we

cannot perceive God. This seems to me a very beautiful idea. I think our

discussion on this subject was particularly nice, because we did not try

to limit God by any attributes, for he is infinite. We also discussed

progress. I understood it much better this week than last. The aim of

progress is to reach a clear understanding of our fellow-beings; we hope

that, sometime, there will be sympathy and understanding among all men,

for we each have a divine self, which will not reach perfection until it

is in perfect accord with all the other people’s. We discussed good and

evil, and decided that evil is that which we outgrow, and which might

once have seemed good, but which now seems bad because we have found

something better. Good is the progress that we are making toward our

goal of common understanding. Unhappiness and accidents, etc., are

incidental to progress, and will occur less and less frequently. I

enjoyed this meeting of the club very much.”

We now reviewed all the conclusions we had reached. Then I was glad to

have them speak once more of good and bad, and ask many questions. Ruth

said she was not sure of being convinced. She said: “I talked it over

with mother. It seems to me I sometimes put my thought into your words,

and imagine you have said what I mean, when perhaps you haven’t. Please

repeat that again, about good and bad.” Ruth is always afraid she may be

weakening in her own ideas, and tries not to be convinced. I strove to

impress upon her that my idea might include hers.

I said: “You see now that the thought I want to give you is an

unanswerable religion, which is not new, but larger than all the old

beliefs.”

Marian asked: “Large enough to include them all?”

“Yes, just that. Did you ever think of the old word, holiness,

h-o-l-i-n-e-s-s? I know another word that to us would mean holiness, a

different holiness.”

“You mean w-h-o-l-e?” said Marian.

“Yes, to be whole and complete.”

Now as we spoke again of good and bad, we came upon the interesting

question of disease.

“How can that be explained as a part of progress?” asked Marian.

Virginia, with her usual misconception on this subject, said that

disease helped us forward because through it scientists came to know and

understand many things about life. Henry, still more off the track, said

that disease led to a knowledge of medicine.

“Henry’s idea,” I answered, “we cannot consider, because, of course, the

only virtue of medical skill is that it cures disease, and if there were

not disease we would not need medical progress. But Virginia’s idea is

true in a certain sense. It is quite true that disease impelled people

to use the microscope, to discover themselves physically, to learn of

the infinitude of minute creatures in the universe; and so it led to a

larger knowledge of life, because the infinitely little makes our world

just as vast as the infinitely big. But this only shows that we made

progress out of disease, as we make progress out of all things, because

the will of life, the will to go forward, is within us. It does not show

how disease itself can be the result or price of progress. That is a

difficult question, but I seem to see it clearly, and I will try to

explain it to you. None of you, except perhaps Virginia and Alfred, have

a clear idea of evolution, and I would like to spend one meeting in

explaining it, because it is so essential. Don’t you think so?”

“Yes,” they said.

“But I can’t go into this question of disease without explaining

something of evolution to you now. I will try to make it clear: Each

individual is different. As animals progressed and went forward, those

parts which were newest were also more unstable, because they were ready

to change more. These parts were most apt to become diseased, or,

rather, weakened, because progress might be in any direction, and had to

feel its way.” It was difficult for me to explain this to the children,

who were so utterly unprepared, and I said much more. Even so, I don’t

think Marian and Ruth understood it thoroughly, and I shall have to

repeat it when we speak of evolution. I said I did not believe the germs

of disease ever entered any part unless that part were weakened or

imperfect. I said: “Take as an example the human brain. Suppose that two

children were born with brains slightly different from others. One might

turn out to be a genius, and the other to be eccentric and even insane,

because progress feels its way in all directions. So disease, coming to

the new unstable parts, would be the necessary cost of progress.”

Virginia said: “Young and new things are always most delicate. I had a

palm with many leaves, and one was new. Now, the palm was left for a day

against the window pane, and the young leaf died from the pressure of

the glass, which did not at all hurt the old leaves.” This poetical and

delightful little figure of speech made me wonder whether Virginia

understood just what I meant.

We went over the question of good and bad, to Ruth’s satisfaction. And

then I asked Henry, whose understanding of it I doubted, to tell me in

what three ways the bad was a part of good and progress. His answer was

clear and true:

“There is the bad, which is only bad because we now possess or know

something better, the old good we have left behind us. Then there is the

bad which is the direct result of progress and growth, such as accidents

and disease. Then there is the use of bad which we make, to turn it into

good, such as the knowledge we get from it, and, as Virginia said

before, the sympathy and love which grow out of misfortune.”

“Now,” I said, “I would like some of you to tell me what you mean by

those two words, matter and spirit.”

Henry, Virginia and Ruth were the only ones ready to answer.

Henry said that spirit is the soul. He quoted from a Sunday-school

formula: “The spirit of man is in the image of God, and immortal.”

I said that those words did not mean anything definite to me. They might

be true, but I did not understand them. Ruth said she did, and it was

what she meant; that matter was, like the bad, something to be overcome

and left behind.

“I think,” said Virginia, “that matter is the tool of spirit; the body

is the servant of the mind.”

They began to argue, but I stopped them, saying: “I will first tell you

what I think. Is there any matter without form? Has not all matter form,

and is it not, therefore, as it were, something like an idea in the

mind?”

Henry wanted to deny this, but thought a moment, and admitted that all

matter had some form.

I went on: “I am a spirit, that is, a self; and I know things only in my

spirit, because I see, hear, touch them. So I don’t believe in matter,

so called, at all. I think that our forms, our bodies, and all forms in

the universe are an expression of spirit or self.” I said expression was

the means for reaching unity, that creatures could not come together

unless they expressed themselves to each other, and that I believed all

expression was for this purpose. I said, what is called matter, the

material conditions of life, are the result of the action of spirit; our

bodies, which seem so solid and material, are constantly changed, are

not at all the same as matter, but only in form; we are reborn each day

according to the spirit. I said that in this sense matter, so-called,

was indeed something we were constantly leaving behind us, that every

material condition was the result of a previous state of mind. This is

true of all human things, and we cannot help thinking it is true of

universal things. We know that fire burns, that planets whirl through

space, that water runs, and we cannot help feeling these expressions of

force to be the expression of something akin to will and spirit.

Virginia said, then there must be something much more than human

sympathy and understanding, which we long to reach. I answered, I

believed so, but I had not wanted to suggest it to them.

I said that all our present bodily conditions, the seemingly unalterable

conditions called material, were the expression of will and spirit in

the past, either of ours or others; that our very existence here, the

existence of everything, was the result of will and desire.

Marian said: “I don’t think it is just that we should suffer and be,

because of another’s will and spirit.”

Virginia answered: “It _is_ fair. We are part of the whole.”

“That is so,” said Marian. “Of course.” It was a full and sufficient

answer.

I said I believed that disease could be prevented, even if not cured, by

thought, because will and desire controlled the body. I said: “We have

our own destiny in our hands, we are free to do as we choose with the

future, because will shapes everything.” I was delighted to find that

the children had never heard the silly discussions about free will, and

did not have to have that bugbear driven out. I said: “We are a part of

the will of life.”

As another illustration of idea coming before form, I spoke of plants

and seeds, how in the seed is the possibility, the idea of an infinity

of trees.

Virginia said: “In them spirit seems to be asleep, for it must be

there.” She said all things slept sometimes, and while they slept the

spirit worked in them.

Ruth was not in the least convinced. Indeed, the thing was not

overclear. She said: “I still think matter is something to be overcome,

something that binds us. Surely we will sometime be spirits without

matter, altogether spiritual.”

I tried to show them that spirit without expression would be

unthinkable, that though expression might not be what we call matter, it

would still be some expression. I said: “Expression frees us.”

That was puzzling, and needed more explanation.

I asked Henry: “What is the object and aim of life?”

He answered vaguely: “I suppose it is spirit.”

“Now, what do you mean by that?” I asked.

He answered: “I suppose we don’t know what it is until we reach the

truth.” Evidently he did not, but all the others did. They all spoke at

once to explain to him that the object of life was complete

understanding and love.

I said: “That is what expression is to get for us, for we express

ourselves in form and thought, so that we may understand and be

understood. And that is what I meant by freedom. I meant understanding,

love and perfect adjustment. In one sense matter is binding, because we

want more freedom. Matter, so called, is the physical condition which

our will made in the past, and which we want already to surpass. Suppose

that a man wrote a book in which he put all his ideas, and that when he

finished the book he was forbidden to write or speak again; his ideas

would grow afterward, and as he could not express them, he would think

himself limited and bound by the book he had written. So material

conditions are binding only because we want still more freedom, though

they themselves were freedom at the time of their creation. In that

sense, Ruth, you might call the body something which the spirit

constantly wants to leave behind, because it is creating new forms for

itself.”

Marian said: “It is as if there were a house with many rooms, and we

thought we wanted to go only into the first; but each door made us long

for the next room, and the next, so that we could never be satisfied.”

“And if one door were locked,” I said, “we would consider ourselves

sadly bound, though we had thought we wished to go only so far. Suppose

a man made a statue, that statue would be an expression of his spirit.

But if the next instant he wanted to change it, to make, say, the lines

of the arm more perfect, he could not do so by willing. He would have to

make a new statue.”

“But that is different,” said Ruth. “The stuff he works in is still

matter.”

I tried to explain how all creation is an inter-change of form, a

flowing and influence. I tried to show them how all things whatsoever,

even thoughts, are forms, and all form an expression.

Virginia said: “Those who write books, or do any great work, are

immortal in that, because of their influence.” I answered her that all

of us were immortal in this sense, that each thing had endless

influence.

Marian asked the one unanswerable question, and I was delighted. She

said: “Why was the Divine Self ever divided? How did we ever happen to

need bodies and expression? Why did it not all grow together?”

She saw that contrast was needed for recognition. But why, she wondered,

was anything at all? I answered her: “We said the other day that it did

not matter whether the search for good were infinite or not. Neither

does it concern us to know the unknowable, whether or how the awaking

world began. But we do know it is awakening, what is the direction, what

is the aim and desire of life. To me no more seems needed. We know how

to go forward.”

“That is true,” she said. She spoke of old age and mental decay. She

said she did not see why people lost, for no reason, the progress they

seemed to have made. I answered her that I did not think they lost it,

unless they did not try to keep it; that it is a thing one must work for

at each moment.

“But why do they stop trying?” she asked.

“I don’t think they stop,” I said. “I think they never did try, but in

youth such people merely had more stimulation from without.”

“Now, my grandfather,” she said, “was an intelligent man, and he is

losing his memory.”

“Is he losing the valuable thing? Does he love you less, understand you

less? Are you sure the memory he is losing is the thing he still needs?”

She saw what I meant. She was struck by it.

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