FLORENCE, a young friend, fifteen years old, but much older

THE SEEKERS

by JESSIE E. SAMPTER

_With an introduction by_

PROFESSOR JOSIAH ROYCE

MITCHELL KENNERLEY

NEW YORK MCMX

_Copyright 1910 by_

_Mitchell Kennerley_

_A successful experiment in non-sectarian religion, in moral and

æsthetic enquiry, with young people in new ways, in search of

the Meaning of Things._

THE SEEKERS Errata

_Page 37, Line 2._ _“and he saw” should read “and we saw.”_

_ " 91, Last line._ _“I answered” should read “she answered.”_

_ " 93, Line 22._ _“but a word itself” should read “work itself.”_

_ " 104, Line 15._ _“a sense of duty” should read “a sense of unity.”_

_ " 236, Line 13._ _“different from each one” should read “different

for.”_

_ " 266, Line 3._ _“operator” should read “spectator.”_

Errata have also been incorporated into the Transcriber's Notes.

Table of Contents

An Introductory Word

The Beginning

The Members

First Meeting

Second Meeting

Third Meeting

Fourth Meeting

Fifth Meeting

Sixth Meeting

Seventh Meeting

Eighth Meeting

Ninth Meeting

Tenth Meeting

Eleventh Meeting

Twelfth Meeting

Thirteenth Meeting

Fourteenth Meeting

Fifteenth Meeting

Sixteenth Meeting

Seventeenth Meeting

Appendix

Table of Contents not in the original book and is added for reader

convenience.

Transcriber's Notes can be found at the end of this eBook.

THE SEEKERS

AN INTRODUCTORY WORD

BY

PROFESSOR JOSIAH ROYCE, PH.D., LL.D.

I have been asked by the author to say a word by way of introduction to

this very interesting record of conversations and inquiries. On the

whole, I feel my word to be superfluous; for the book speaks for itself,

and every reader will form his own opinion. But since the author has

asked for my co-operation, I gladly offer what little I can.

I am a teacher of philosophy at a university. For the most part my own

courses are technical in character. Some of my work is with graduate

students. I am accustomed to discuss controverted opinions with people

who regard philosophy from a skeptical and more or less controversial,

and almost always highly critical, point of view. Hence, my own first

impression of the work of the “Seekers” and of the leader of their

always pleasing inquiries, was mingled with a certain wonder as to the

possibility of their accomplishing together, as well as they have done,

what they undertook. This wonder has changed, as I have become better

acquainted with them, into a delight that the tact, the caution, the

tolerance and the earnestness of the leader, and the skill and docility

of the pupils, could result in setting before us so fine a model of

teaching and of learning as here appears. The book is one to encourage

every lover of good things, and everyone who wants to see how the minds

of young people in this country, and living under good conditions, can

be turned toward great questions in such a way as to encourage

sincerity, thoughtfulness and the beginnings of true wisdom.

In what little I have to say of this book I ought of course to abstract

altogether from such agreement as I indeed feel with the form of

Idealism which Miss Sampter represents. The question put to me is the

question whether the method of procedure here adopted is one that

promises to be genuinely useful as an initiation of young people into

the study of deeper questions. I answer that the author seems to have

made out her case, and to have proved her faith in her method by her

work. The age and the previous training of the “Seekers”—as they are

sketched in the author’s preliminary statement—once presupposed, this

mode of procedure could only prove a help to them. The methods used are

an important beginning. If any of the “Seekers” go on to a more advanced

study of philosophy, in college or elsewhere, they ought to prove apt

learners. If they simply turn to life as their further teacher, they

should be ready to profit by some of its deepest lessons better than

they could otherwise have done. If, upon further inquiry, they incline

to other opinions about the world and about life than the ones they have

emphasized, they will still always remain more tolerant of the varieties

of opinion, and more hopeful of the right and the power of the human

mind to grapple with grave issues, than they would otherwise have been.

These hours of “seeking” will have opened their eyes to values which are

indeed permanent, whatever will be the true solution of the problems of

philosophy; and the memory of these hours will prove henceforth a

safeguard against cynicism when they doubt, and against intolerance and

inhumanity when they believe. And, whatever the truth may be, about God,

or about the world, or about life, cynicism in doubt, and intolerance

and inhumanity in belief, are great evils, against which the young

people of our time need to be guarded quite as much as men needed to be

guarded against such evils in the days either of the Sophists or of the

Inquisitors. For, in one guise or another, speaking the language of old

or of new faith or unfaith, Sophists and Inquisitors we have always with

us, either corrupting or oppressing the youth. The methods of our

author, as set forth in this book, make for liberty together with

seriousness, for self-expression together with reverence, for

thoughtfulness together with a sense of deeper values. And in so far the

book is a success as a model of the way in which our new problems must

be met when we have to deal with the young.

If one undertakes to consider such topics with a class as youthful and

at the same time as enlightened as the “Seekers,” the dilemma is

obvious. One must indeed be more or less dogmatic in tone about at least

some central interest; one must make use of the persuasive power of a

teacher’s personal influence; or else one will lead to no definite

results. On the other hand, if one propounds one’s dogmas merely as the

traditional teacher of religion has always done by saying: “This is our

faith. This is what you should believe,”—one is then in no case

teaching philosophy, and one is hardly helping the young people to

“seek.” Moreover, such mere dogmas, addressed to young people in whom

the period of “enlightenment” has already begun, will tend to awaken in

their minds new doubts and objections, rather than to convey to them the

positive truth, even if one’s own dogmas happen to be true. Hence arises

a problem of instruction which cannot be solved in the case of these

“Seekers” as we teachers of philosophy often try nowadays to solve our

analogous problems in dealing with older pupils in college. Some of us

meet our own problems with the older students by directly disclaiming

all authority to control their convictions, by asking them to become as

self-critical and independent as they can, and by stating our own

opinions with the intent _not_ to make disciples, but to enable our

students to form their own personal judgments through the very sympathy

with our efforts to be reflective, self-critical and constructive. Thus

we do not try to convey a faith so much as to help our students to their

own spiritual independence.

In strong opposition to our mode of procedure, many popular teachers of

this or that form of “New Thought” have been trying of late to annul

modern doubts, and to lead men to a higher spiritual insight by means of

certain “intuitions,” for the sake of which skeptical inquiry, stern

criticism, elaborate reflection must be laid aside; so that the kindly

disposed learner, even if he indeed is not to be a believer in certain

old-fashioned creeds, still looks to his teacher for a means of quieting

his doubts, and so that what is supposed to be “philosophy” becomes a

sort of “anæsthetic revelation,” with the teacher as the assistant who

administers the anæsthetic whereby the pupil is prepared for the surgery

of life.

Now, whatever may be the use of such “New Thought” for invalid wrecks,

or even for more or less world-weary lovers of the good, whom sad

experience has turned away from their earlier religious creeds, and who

need to be restored to their courage in facing reality;—still, these

anæsthetic methods of the lovers of the “silence” and of the vague

light, are _not_ suited to the best needs of the enlightened young

people, such as these “Seekers” who are about to begin life, who know

their little fragments of science, of socialism, and of modern problems,

and who want unity with clearness. Nor are such young people at just

this age yet ready for our more technical academic procedure. Shall they

be left then unguided, until their interest in unifying life has been

lost in the confusion and variety of their increasing knowledge, until

their youthful idealism has been saddened and perhaps soiled by the

world, and until their criticism of life has become at once tragic and

cynical?

Miss Sampter has undertaken to answer these questions by dealing with

the need of just such people. She does so with a genuine clearness of

vision, with a careful touch that helps and with a spirit which prepares

them to meet their problems, and not to lose unity by reason of the

complexities of their situation. She dogmatizes a little, to be sure;

and in fact she repeats some of her dogmas not infrequently, without

giving any elaborate reasons for these dogmas. They are the dogmas of a

metaphysical idealism which I myself in the main accept, but which no

direct intuition can very adequately justify, while their technical

justification could not possibly be discussed at length in the meetings

of the “Seekers.” On the other hand, our author is no mere partisan of

intuition. Her dogmas are stated in forms that not only win her “plastic

youth” to agreement, but challenge them to a reflection which ere long,

in some of them, will lead to new interpretations, to doubts, and so, in

time, to a higher insight than they at first gain. She sets her pupils

to thinking as well as to receiving; they become inquirers rather than

passive recipients of an intuition. They are thus prepared for a variety

of future religious and philosophical experiences, and yet they are kept

in touch with that love and hope of unity which alone can justify the

existence of our very doubts, of our philosophical disputes, and of our

modern complications of life.

As a means of avoiding both of the opposing extremes sketched in the

foregoing account of the ways of teaching philosophical opinions, as a

_via media_ in the work of beginning the philosophical instruction of

young people, as a preparation for more critical study, as a

conservation of some of the best in the spirit of faith without an undue

appeal to mere intuition, and as a model of what can be done to awaken a

very notable type of young inquirers such as our modern training tends

to produce in the homes of very many of us—this book is, in my opinion,

to be very heartily commended.

The educational problem with which it deals concerns meanwhile a very

deep and intensely practical interest of our American civilization. We

cannot retain the unity of our national consciousness unless we can

keep, even in the midst of all the complications and doubts of the

modern world, our sense of the great common values of the spiritual

world. Without philosophy, our nation can therefore never come to its

own. Philosophy does not mean the acceptance of any mere authority. And

it will not lead us to universal agreement about any one form of creed.

But it will teach us to unite freedom, tolerance, insight, and

spirituality. Without these, of what worth would be mere bulk and mere

wealth to our nation? I welcome this book then because our author has

contributed to one of the most important of the tasks of our time—the

task of helping our nation to regain the now much confused and

endangered consciousness of its own unity.

JOSIAH ROYCE

Harvard University, August 3, 1910.

THE SEEKERS

THE BEGINNING

This is a live book. It was lived first, and written only afterwards. So

it can lay no claim to the title of art, which is experience remoulded

in the cast of individual genius; for this was not at all moulded, save

as the written word reshapes the spoken. It is a philosophic adventure,

an experiment, written down by one, but lived by seven.

Why did I write it down? may be asked. Every new book needs an excuse

for being. I wrote it down because it seemed an answer, perhaps a

partial, but still a living answer, to two questions that cry aloud.

As I look about me, and observe the doings and thoughts of men and women

in this active time, I notice two problems, related one to the other,

and wanting but one solution.

First of these is a lack of common purpose in the works of life. Many

religions are there, many creeds and anti-creeds, many purposes, from

petty, selfish gain to reforms in government and social service.

Scientist, politician, artist, philanthropist and minister go each

toward a partial goal, in opposition to one another, with no one

purpose, no end beyond all lesser ends, no larger patriotism. Morals are

either very stiff or very lax, without any conscious reason for either

their stiffness or their laxity. The only reason for moral conviction,

the only purpose that could unite all purposes, the only patriotism to

hold all men together and give the union needful for great and strong

achievement, is a common faith in the goal and meaning of life.

The second problem is a more conscious one, the problem of moral and

religious education for our children. For ourselves—so think many among

us—we do not need a philosophy or religion; we are good enough without

having any reason for being good. But we think our children need some

instruction and guidance, something to satisfy the blessed cravings and

doubts that we have long since killed within ourselves. For barely one

among us fails to remember his fifteen-year-old questionings and

strivings, and his defeat, when at last he decided to think no more,

because his problem was insoluble. But even these who are so well

contented with their own hard-won torpor want something better for their

children. The question is asked again and again: “Shall we teach our

children what we do not believe? And can we teach them what we do

believe?”

In this book I attempt to solve both problems at once, and through the

children to speak to their parents. For many who will not admit the

least interest in the vital questions that have created every religion

and philosophy throughout time, still are interested and will listen

when the problem touches their own children. And only through the

creative, open and daring mind of youth, not yet either stiffened or

broken, can the spirit of a larger and a richer faith give new

inspiration.

I am convinced that to-day all thoughtful men believe the same, where

vital questions arise, and that each man sees a different angle of the

same truth, which grows and grows in our vision, with the growing

knowledge of man. All our ministers with their different churches, and

our congregations with their sectarian prejudices, have at heart a

common goal, a faith that needs only to be spoken to be believed. Let

their children draw them together. Find a common religion to be taught

in the school—where this necessity is the present problem of all

educators, and where so far ethical courses and emasculated Christianity

have given no solution—and from that larger patriotism of a common

faith in childhood will spring the faith bigger than ethics and

philanthropics, big enough to include all churches and systems in an

unseen brotherhood.

Were I able to carry out this idea in a school, I would have classes or

clubs, such as the Seekers, for all girls and boys of about the third or

fourth high-school year. Then, for the younger children as well as for

the older ones, I would have songs and readings at the assembly, which

would suggest or picture forth the inmost spirit of our modern faith.

These songs and readings I would let the older pupils choose and discuss

in their clubs; and I would leave in their hands, as much as possible,

the social and spiritual regulation of the school life. Faith and action

go together. Each without the other is barren.

My purpose in this book is then twofold: to record how such clubs and

classes work in practice, and thereby suggest a method from experience;

also to give, in such large and perhaps superficial aspect as the means

necessitate, the main outline of my thought. Not mine alone, but yours

and every man’s. I bring no news; but only an old, forgotten story, new

and strange to our widened knowledge. Accept its large intent, if you

reject its lesser achievement; admit that this is the only possible

truth in the light of our present knowledge. Though you believe more

than this, accept at least the Seekers’ path as pointing toward the

goal. To these children it gave a way and a light; it satisfied a need

and answered a question, and brought new weapons for the battle of

thought wherein most of us fail from weariness. For them it has already

succeeded, whatever its coming fate.

Unless one sees a glimpse of truth at fifteen, enough to recognize it,

one is not likely to discern it later, through the mist of unformed

knowledge. And at fifteen one craves this something that can relate and

shape all thought. So it happened that I organized the club of Seekers,

composed of very different girls and boys, because of this one common

need.

The conditions necessary for membership were few. The first condition,

the one in its nature inevitable, was that each member should be

interested and enthusiastic in our quest, a seeker from need and desire.

Only such would have stayed with us. And this, perhaps, was a selective

process of extreme rigor. Otherwise the conditions of membership were

not of the sort to put a premium on extraordinary ability. They were

that the members should be over fourteen, and under seventeen, and

should have finished their elementary school course. I also limited the

membership in number. Among my acquaintances were many more girls who

would have wished to join us, but no more than the two boys. I explain

this not by the fact that boys are less interested in these questions,

but that their interest develops later. If I had sought boys of eighteen

or nineteen, I could have found them easily. At the time, however, I did

not realize this fact.

I think that the children were average of their kind. The kind,

nevertheless, may have carried with it some intellectual superiority or

precocity, such as the effects of environment and urban life. For these

things, through the chance of acquaintanceship, they had in common: they

were all bred in New York City, in educated families of the upper middle

class (though not all of well-to-do parents), and all but one, Ruth, who

is a Christian Scientist, of homes unusually liberal in their religious

thought. Therefore these children were free from those clogging

superstitions and false perspectives which result from early training in

any symbolic and fixed creed. Take these influences for what they were

worth. Beyond them the children had no special advantage or

disadvantage.

I say all this as a defence against a possible criticism: namely, that

the children seem, by their comprehension and original ideas, to be far

above the average boys and girls of the same age. This I deny, and for

good reasons. Naturally I have meant this experiment of a class in

religious philosophy for adolescent boys and girls to be general in its

application. And I believe it to be so. Most grown people have forgotten

how they felt and thought at fifteen, and are apt to underrate the

mental processes of boys and girls. I myself at that age felt so keenly

the lack of sympathy in older people that I made a point of remembering

and writing down certain experiences. I questioned several friends, and

at last got admissions from them that they, too, had thought in the same

way at fifteen. But no doubt they still look upon themselves as unique

in this respect, for at fifteen we all think ourselves exceptions, and

no matter how commonplace we may be now we are apt vaguely to keep that

memory.

Then, too, one must not forget the effect of conscious and unconscious

suggestion. I had my plans carefully made, and knew exactly in what

direction I meant to lead our ideas, but the children knew very little

of this foreplanning, and went of themselves where I wished them to go.

No doubt suggestion blazed trails for them through this wilderness, if

it did not make a path, and, as my record will prove, my questions often

stimulated them to answers that would not otherwise have been possible.

But often their answers were wholly unexpected and surprising. As our

name tells, we are seekers, and I have found, at the very least, as much

as they. Above all, my boundless faith in the young was justified. And

my critics must admit that they have not this faith themselves, and so

could never have put it to the test of experience, as I have done.

The children’s papers show better than written words of mine exactly

what the meetings meant to them, and will prove also, I think, their

average ability. They are printed exactly as written, save for

corrections in spelling and punctuation, which were by no means perfect.

The conversations were recorded as precisely as possible from memory and

from notes taken immediately after the meetings. As any one with

experience will know, it is impossible to record the broken fragments of

actual speech without sometimes combining mere phrases into complete

sentences. The written is never like the spoken thought. It appears like

it, which it would not do if it were a precise phonographic

transcription.

I have made the children speak “in character,” using always their own

words and their own ideas, whatever those might be; even being careful

to record characteristic phrases and expressions. And that I had

succeeded was proved by the children themselves, when they heard the

manuscript read and recognized themselves and each other, to their great

amusement. Not until all the meetings were over had they any idea that I

was keeping this record.

We seven, then, have made this book; and one other one, who, though

never present at the meetings, had his large share of influence in them.

This was my friend and Florence’s big brother Arthur—so often quoted by

her—and quoted by me without acknowledgment, especially in the meetings

on the æsthetic ideal, which would have been impossible without his

help.

For all lovers of youth and individual thought, for all lovers of the

quest, we have made this book, as a personal recognition of the bond of

kinship that binds all free seekers, and as an answer to those vital

questions which all of us must ask together, and answer, at least in

sympathy.

THE MEMBERS

ALFRED, my cousin, not quite fifteen years old when the club was begun.

In his first high school year. In appearance, a young Arab chieftain,

dark, athletic and dignified. His character fulfils the promise: he is

taciturn, slow to act, independent, serious for his age, and with a

great thirst for knowledge. A lover of nature and the country; a hater

of all things petty or mean. He entered the club with a good knowledge

of evolution, and no religious training of any sort.

VIRGINIA, my cousin, almost sixteen years old. She had one year of high

school, but as she would not study, and drew pictures instead, she was

sent to art school a year and a half ago, where she has been working

hard. She has read and re-read many good books. Although she is of a

blonde, Saxon type, yet her hair and eyes are very dark. Light-hearted

and yet earnest, self-satisfied, always sweet and lovable. Bright,

interested, original, humorous. She has had no definite religious

training, but much sound religious philosophy at home.

FLORENCE, a young friend, fifteen years old, but much older in

appearance. In her third high school year. Large and dark, with gray

eyes. She is vacillating, and may turn out to be a fine, independent,

intelligent and forceful woman, or a materialistic, flippant society

lady. It depends on the influences brought to bear, and on her own will.

Somewhat spoiled. A good student, a good thinker, but not impelled to

think by any great desire. She loves dancing more than anything else in

the world. She comes from a home of mixed and uncertain piety.

HENRY, Florence’s cousin, not quite sixteen years old, unknown to me

before we formed the club. In his second high school year. A young

student, dark, slim, shy, with much to say, but not yet able to say it

well. He is rather dogmatic, but open to influence, a born seeker. Often

appearing at first to be slow, or commonplace, he suddenly reveals

unexpected understanding and originality. He comes from a conventional

home.

MARIAN, Florence’s friend, also unknown to me before the club. Fifteen

and a half years old. In her fourth—last—high school year, preparing

for college. A light brunette of a languid and yet intellectual type.

Very intuitive, of quick insight, sympathetic, a lover of human nature,

shy and quiet. A dreamer and a hero-worshiper. She expresses herself

well, but often in broken sentences and with hesitation. Her parents

belong to the Ethical Culture Society, and have given her no religious

education.

RUTH, Marian’s chum, sixteen years old, is also in her last high school

year, preparing to study kindergarten. A slight, blonde girl, tall, and

with her character written in her face: self-possessed, poise, idealism.

Her voice, enunciation and language are those of one trained to speak

well. Her thought is unusually developed, but along rather narrow lines.

She loves children, and has chosen her work with an idealistic devotion.

Her mother is Christian, her father Jewish, and their religion is

Christian Science. She is a convinced Christian Scientist.

FIRST MEETING

When we were all gathered about the table at three o’clock, I opened the

discussion thus:

“Do you remember that I told you we were going to speak to-day of the

fact that there is almost no religion at present, and the cause for

this? Now, are we all agreed that there is very little religion—true

religious belief—at present?”

All agreed to this except Henry. He said that he thought people were as

religious as ever.

“I think,” said Florence to Henry, “that you are confusing religion and

creed. People belong to churches and temples, and think they are

religious, but they don’t know what they believe.”

I saw Henry was not convinced, so I said to him: “I think perhaps we do

not mean the same thing by religion, therefore we might as well go on,

and speak of it later, when we do understand.

“Now, I believe there is a definite historic reason for our religious

lack, and I will tell it to you.”

Then I reviewed briefly the history of ancient religions, Brahmanism,

the Egyptian creed, the Greek and the early Catholic religions, to show

that all these for various reasons—but chiefly because of the ignorance

of the populace—had been, as it were, double religions. There was an

initiated religion of the priests, who did indeed see truth, who were

monotheists of the universal vision, and were filled with the sense of

unity in all things. Besides this was the religion of myths, the popular

religion. The people took literally the poetical tales told by the

prophets; and these prophets, or priests, even went so far as to deceive

the people purposely, for what they considered the people’s good.

“I don’t see how the priests could have known the truth,” Ruth said, “if

they meant to deceive the populace. Those who knew the truth would not

wish to deceive.”

“You are right,” I answered; “they had not the whole truth, but in so

far as they saw, they saw truly.”

Ruth seemed to doubt this historic account. I quietly proved to her and

the others that it was true. I read them a passage from Plato’s

“Republic,” in which he recommends telling the people a myth because

belief in it would put them in the proper frame of mind.

I went on to explain how the democratic spirit began to destroy the

religion of the initiated. The aristocracy of religion was as much

resented as the aristocracy of government.

The result was that every one believed the popular, mythical religion;

and that is what most of our churches have lived upon since then. All

the superstitions of creeds, the absurd stories that are believed

literally by some people even to-day, are the poetic symbols of prophets

and teachers, accepted as narratives of fact.

Next came the scientific spirit, and said: “The world is more than six

thousand years old; it was not created in a week; the whale could not

have swallowed Jonah, and given him up again.” Now people cried out:

“Religion is not true. We will believe nothing but science.”

When I spoke of the difference between mythical and true religion, I

found the children already understood this, that they realized Moses’

true meaning when he spoke of the burning bush; that they knew Jesus,

when he spoke of himself as the son of God, meant to express the

divinity of man. I said the true religion spoke in poetry, and the

popular made its figures of speech into gods.

“For instance,” I said, “from where comes the line, ‘The rosy fingers of

the dawn’?”

“From Homer,” answered Marian, “from the Odyssey.”

“Well,” I went on, “a person reading that might say, ‘Just think, the

dawn has fingers; then it must have a hand.’”

“Then,” said Virginia, “he would add, ‘So the dawn is a woman.’”

I said one might worship an image of a god, but if he kept his mind upon

the vast divine unity he would not be an idol worshiper.

“But,” objected Henry, “if he did it long enough, he would become an

idol worshiper.”

“He might,” I said, “but he need not.”

Now we came to the question of science. What has religion to do with

science?

Alfred said science led in the same direction, was looking for the same

thing.

Henry said science was supposed to be in opposition to religion, because

it destroyed her creeds.

That, I answered him, seemed to me a good thing.

Virginia said she thought religion and science were almost the same. She

meant that her scientific knowledge of the universe led her to her

religious convictions.

Florence said she thought science and religion were altogether separate,

had nothing to do with each other.

Marian said she did not see how science could help us to religious

knowledge. But it turns out that she has read no science at all, save

what she was taught in school.

Ruth said that science was the enemy of religion, that two things

seeking in a different way could not possibly both reach the truth; that

science might tell us of material facts, but could not possibly give us

the divine truth.

I asked: “Are you sure material truth is not divine truth?”

Then I said that I myself thought science was the servant of religion,

that it was valuable only in so far as it helped us to a knowledge of

life—divine and whole—(I said aside to Ruth) and that I did think it

helped us so. It gave us a sense of unity, of our relation with the

whole world, because we knew that the same law moved us and the stars.

“Now,” I went on, “Marian mentioned the other day that she had heard

people say they were too educated to need religion. They meant they knew

too much science. Can science replace religion?”

They all said no.

They saw at once that behind every science was the mystery, the

unexplained, and that every scientist must begin with a philosophy.

I said: “I have heard people say that science disproves immortality.”

Virginia answered: “It does not disprove immortality. It proves, indeed,

that nothing ever is destroyed.”

“Do you think,” I asked, “that there is such a thing as absolute

religious knowledge?”

“Yes,” they said.

“Do you think we can get it? That it is a certain knowledge?”

They answered “Yes.”

“But,” said Ruth, “you would want it proved.”

I used the word “faith,” and the children rightly objected, because,

they said, faith could be used to express the most superstitious of

mythical beliefs. One must _know_.

“I mean self-evident knowledge,” I said. “If to-day the priests and the

myths are dead, if we are to have a democratic religion, then each one

of us must be a prophet. We here to-day, we seven, shall find the

unanswerable truth. Shall we?”

“Yes, I believe so.”

“How do we know that such truth is to be reached? We do know certain

things in ourselves? We know the mystery is there? We know that which we

call God?”

“Yes,” they said.

“Is there any other reason for believing that the truth can be known?”

Marian said: “In past times some men have known it, we feel certain.”

“That is just what I meant, Marian. Such men, you mean, as Moses and

Jesus?”

“Yes.”

“And we here shall get it. We shall know.

“I believe,” I said, “that when we have talked everything over we shall

know the truth, and it shall be the same for each.”

“In fundamentals, perhaps,” said Ruth, “but not in all things.”

No religion could be the true religion, we said, if it fostered

antagonism or bitterness toward those of another persuasion.

“One would wish to teach them,” said Marian.

“Well, then, what is the truth? We spoke of the nature of ‘God.’ What is

God, the something we all know and cannot speak?”

Henry said: “I could tell better what I mean by God by saying what is

not God.” We tried to make him explain.

“Nothing is not God,” said Virginia, “everything is God, good and bad,

too; and the bad only seems bad to us, but really leads to good.”

“Everything is not God,” said Ruth, “for God is perfect, and we are

imperfect, and are striving for his perfection. Imperfection and all bad

things are not of God.”

“What are they, then?” I asked. “Surely you do not believe in two gods,

like the Zoroastrians, in a good and a bad? But the wisest of them saw

that the two were one.”

Ruth answered: “I have it at home in a book, how evil came into God’s

world, although we are of him and he is perfect. I will bring it next

time. I don’t remember it.”

“Yes, do bring it. But I believe that as long as we are not perfect, God

is not perfect.”

“That seems,” answered Ruth, “as if we were God.”

“So we are a part of God, who is the whole. Anything else is

unthinkable. And unless we are perfect, how can He be perfect?”

The children corrected me, for I had used the wrong word.

“God must be perfect,” they said, “if we long for that perfection.”

Virginia said: “If the world is ever to be perfect, then it is perfect

now. Whatever shall be is here now, is here forever.”

“You are right,” I answered, “I should not have used that word.”

Henry said: “The apple-tree might be perfect, but the apples might still

be unripe.”

“Yes,” I went on, “but the apple-tree would not be perfect unless the

apples ripened.”

“The world is like a rose-bud,” said Alfred. “It is perfect as a bud,

and yet it must open and evolve in its perfection.”

“Yes,” I said, “or like a sleeper who awakens.

“Now, then,” I asked, “you do all believe in progress; that the world

changes and that it changes in a certain direction?”

“I don’t know,” said Virginia. “I believe that the world, that God, must

always be the same, even though it change.”

“That is true, and it is a strange paradoxical truth, which I hope to

make you understand later on, that all things change and progress, yet

are ever the same, even as the rose-bud that unfolds.”

We had tacitly admitted that God and the aim of life stood for love and

unity. Once when Henry spoke of the “fear” of God, the others corrected

him.

“Now,” I said, “if there is progress, what is it?”

Ruth answered: “There is progress of individuals, not of the world.

Certain men saw the truth as clearly in old times as they could now.”

“I do not believe so,” I answered her. “I think the whole must evolve

and bud forth, and that it does. Now you all admit that Moses was a

prophet who saw the truth?”

They said “Yes.”

“But he felt enmities. Jesus was a greater prophet than Moses. In what

was he greater?”

“In his realization not only of the unity of God, but of the unity and

divinity and love of man.”

“If Moses were here to-day,” I asked, “in what might he be greater than

he was in his own time?”

Florence said: “He would have all the advantages of culture since then.”

“That would not make him greater.”

Marian answered: “You mean the democracy of to-day, the realization of

the brotherhood of all men.”

“Yes,” I said, “that is just what I mean. When I look at history, I can

see no progress but this. Automobiles, electricity, scientific

knowledge, these are not progress except as they lead to that other

progress. We do understand our fellowmen better than we ever did. We

can—some of us—call every savage our brother. That is the clear

progress throughout history.”

The children were impressed by this fact.

“Then you mean,” said Ruth, “that universal love is the object of life?”

“Yes,” I said, “but I am afraid to use the word ‘love,’ for it might

mean blind love, and I mean understanding love.”

“Of course,” said the children.

“You mean love of mankind?” asked Marian.

“Yes,” I said, “but individual love, too; and perhaps more than both of

these.”

“I still believe,” said Ruth, “that progress is only for the individual,

and that it doesn’t matter whether we progress here or hereafter.

Personal love is selfish. We want divine love.”

I answered her: “I will not speak now of hereafter. But here and now,

to-day, do we not want at once the thing that we want?”

“Yes,” they said.

“Then, now and here we mean to go forward, as far as we can, and now and

here we will love men with our might, because that is the human way and

the human progress.”

“It does seem to me, from books,” said Virginia, “that people are less

mean, selfish and jealous than they were a hundred years ago.”

Marian smiled over to her. “You have been reading Thackeray,” she said.

“But,” said Virginia, “all people are not progressing together, for

though we should find the truth now, many others will not find it for a

long time. The world is like a bunch of roses, in which some are

full-blown, and others are small buds.”

“Yes,” I answered her; “and for the whole to evolve, each bud must be

unfolded in beauty.”

Now we said many things beside these, but these were the chief trend and

conclusions of our thought. I also told them how every moment was a

promise and a fulfillment, a state of the endless whole.

Next Sunday each is to tell me what he or she does mean by the word

“God.”

The children were enthusiastic, uplifted, whole-hearted in their

interest.

Virginia and Alfred, who stayed some time after the others, had a long

discussion on good and bad, in which I refused to join.

Virginia said she thought all bad things had good results, and could be

used for good.

Alfred answered he was not sure of that, but he believed bad to be a

necessary part of good. He said: “If I never felt ill, I could not know

I felt well.”

Virginia said: “Reason made evil, for when creatures became reasonable

they knew that the things they had done before were wrong.”

SECOND MEETING

I spoke of the name of our club, the Seekers. I said that I thought it

expressed exactly what we meant to do.

Ruth answered that to her it seemed the only possible, natural name.

Then I read aloud Virginia’s account of the last meeting:

“A great many people think themselves too educated to believe in any of

the established religions, and then don’t take the trouble to find out

what they really think and what their true religion is. People have a

wrong idea of the meaning of the word ‘religious.’ Consequently, as they

don’t know what it means, they cannot _be_ it. Many people who go to

church or temple every Sabbath, and sleep, or take note of the different

costumes of the congregation during the sermon, consider themselves

religious.

“We decided that we all believed in the unity of God. The truth has

always been apparent to some, such as Moses and Jesus, and some of the

Oriental priests. The two former tried to give the true idea to the

people, but failed, as they were too poetical, and the people believed

too literally. The latter tried to keep the people in ignorance, as it

gave them power, and they therefore told the people what they themselves

knew to be untruths.

“We differed somewhat in our idea of God. Some thought he was all good

and had no evil. I think he is all good, but I also think that all evil

is his, but that every evil has a good motive and a good end.

“No idea, no matter how surprising and new it may seem, is new. It has

always been, although it has never been thought. The world is like a

great bunch of rosebuds, each perfect as a bud, but not developed. Every

beautiful idea, when it is thought, is a petal unfolding and revealing

_more_ perfect petals beneath. Thus one fine idea brings forth another.

“I think a great many people do not know what they think. If you ask a

person belonging to one of the established religions what they believe,

I think their answer would be vague. Formerly, these religions were very

useful, as they made people love good. Now they prevent people from

thinking, and make them dependent. They depend on others to make their

beliefs and thoughts, when their brains should be, and probably are,

fertile enough to think for themselves.”

I said that was just what I wanted, and I hoped to have one such paper

each week.

I said I believed that after we had spoken of God, and decided what we

meant, and all agreed, we would not often use the word God, because it

was so nearly unspeakable, so vast and holy, that we would take it as a

natural background to our thought.

“You know,” I said, “how in the old Jewish temples the name of God was

mentioned only once a year.”

“And then only by the priest,” Henry added.

“But if we want to talk of God we shall have to use his name,” said

Ruth. The others seemed to agree with her.

“The personal significance always clings to the name of God,” Marian

said; “but what other word can one use?”

“Perhaps it would be better,” suggested Henry, “to use some such other

word as All-powerful One.”

Virginia said that to her the word God had no personal significance.

Ruth thought we might use the impersonal word “Good.” I answered her

that every attribute, even good, was limiting, and God was limitless.

I saw that they did not in the least understand what I meant, that they

could not until we went further. So I said:

“I think that after we know what we mean by the word God, you will

understand why we shall not want, and not need, to use it.”

Then I asked them what they meant by God.

Virginia said: “God is the whole, good and bad, only what seems bad is

really good. Or God is, rather, every feeling, every emotion.”

Henry said God was everything good, but that everything _was_ good, and

bad only seemed bad to us.

Alfred said: “I don’t think bad is good, but I think that God must be

everything, anyway.”

Marian tried to say that God is the vast unknown—something, which we

know because we feel it.

Florence said: “I spoke to brother Arthur about it, and I now think that

God is sympathy; that is, sympathy and understanding of our fellow-men;

and as we reach that, we get to God.”

The others were surprised and startled by this explanation. I said I

knew what Florence meant, but that she had not been able to express it

clearly.

Then Ruth said that she agreed with Henry. She called God spirit.

“Yes,” I answered, “if we take spirit to mean everything. For we know

nothing except through our senses, our consciousness, our understanding;

so that all we know is knowledge of spirit.”

They all agreed to that.

“Now,” I said, “I believe God to be in each of us, to be the self within

us, and within all others, and within the universe; to be the knowledge,

the light and the understanding. I can explain to you what I mean by

reading a passage from the Indian Vedas, which seems to me so true, and

so exactly what I want to say, that I could not explain it so well

myself.” Then I read the following:

“In the beginning was Self alone. Atman is the Self in all our

selves—the Divine Self concealed by his own qualities. This Self they

sometimes call the Undeveloped. . . . The generation of Brahma was

before all ages, unfolding himself evermore in a beautiful glory;

everything which is highest and everything which is deepest belongs to

him. Being and not being are unveiled through Brahma. . . . How can any

one teach concerning Brahma? He is neither the known nor the unknown.

That which cannot be expressed by words, but through which all

expression comes, this I know to be Brahma. That which cannot be thought

by the mind, but by which all thinking comes, this I know is Brahma.

That which cannot be seen by the eye, but by which the eye sees, is

Brahma.”

They liked this so well, and said it expressed their feelings so truly,

that I offered to copy it for each one of them. Marian said she did not

understand what was meant by “concealed by his own qualities.”

I answered: “We know God only because of the universe which we see and

feel.”

“Yes,” she said.

“But just that the universe,” I went on, “conceals God, is a mystery as

well as a revelation.”

“I don’t quite understand,” said Marian.

“It is like a great light,” I said, “which is so bright that it dazzles

you, and you cannot look at it.”

“Like the sun,” said Virginia.

“I think I see what you mean,” Marian answered.

I continued: “Moses spoke of God in that same way, as the vast Self:

‘And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am; and he said, Thus shalt thou

say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.’

“And so,” I went on, “myself and yourself, the self of every man and the

self of the universe, that is God.”

With delightful frankness they said that they liked it better as it was

put in “that thing on Brahma.”

“So do I,” I answered. “We know only self. Is it not so?”

“I don’t like the word ‘self,’” said Ruth; “it is too limited. I think

only of my little self.”

Marian agreed. Virginia said that to her it seemed the true word, that

she felt the whole as a vast self. “But isn’t it more?” she asked. “God

is feeling. When I ride in an open trolley, and the wind blows in my

face, and the trees blow, and the clouds move in the sky, then the

feeling that it gives me I call God.”

“Isn’t it self, within yourself?” I asked.

“Yes, it is,” she answered.

“Now,” I said, “we are little, incomplete, limited creatures, but we

need the whole universe to be complete. The whole universe is the rest

of self, the rest of myself. That is what I mean by God, and in that

sense I am a part of God.”

All the children agreed at once, as if this were the thing they had

wanted to hear said. This first definite statement that I made seemed to

us all unanswerably true.

Immediately they went on to speak of good and bad; but I stopped them,

thus:

“There is one other thing I would like to make clear first, a historic

question, but one that leads to the question of good and bad. What did

the most illumined and inspired polytheists mean by their many gods?”

Marian answered: “They meant many aspects of the one God.”

“Just so, Marian. But now do you know the inner meaning of Trinity?”

None of them knew, and all seemed particularly interested and anxious to

understand. “I never understood,” said Marian, “what was meant by the

Holy Ghost.”

I said to them: “I will tell you what it has always meant to me, and to

some others beside me, and you can see whether it seems true to you. To

me the three are as parts of one. They are the contrast, such as man and

God, good and bad, even night and day, and the understanding, the unity

that makes these two one.”

This needed much explanation. It was all summed up thus: The three in

one—the triangle with three sides, which is still one—are: Myself, the

other self, which I love and need for my completion, and the love and

understanding which pass between us and make us one. Virginia said that

she never thought of herself and the other self, that to her they were

one. The idea was very new to them all, and did not at once convince

them.

“Now,” I said, “we see, however, that opposites are really one; and so I

believe that good and bad are parts of the same thing. I believe that

everything called bad is the price of going forward, of progress, that

bad things are made by good things. Suppose that the world were in utter

darkness, that no light were anywhere, then there would be no darkness,

either. But the first flame of light would create the darkness.”

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