BOOK IX.

ARGUMENT.

In the _ninth book_ the discussion of tyranny is concluded with a view

of its origin and nature in the individual man, who, when thus

affected, is given up to all kinds of disordered passions that

effectually exclude him from all chance of happiness. Hence is it,

that, as good and healthy monarchical government is pre-eminently

conducive to the highest happiness of the citizens,—so also tyranny

is unfailingly productive of the most intense and general misery.

This is proved also from an analysis of the mental faculties, and a

pretty full account is here given of the desires, pleasures, and

indulgences by which they are affected, and which must be kept in

constant subjection by the dominance of reason.

CHAP. I.—We have yet, said I, to consider the tyrannical man himself,

how he arises out of the democratic,—and, when he does arise, what is

his nature, and what kind of life he leads, whether wretched or happy.

Yes, we have, said he. Know you, said I, what I still want? What? We do

not seem to have sufficiently distinguished as regards the desires; what

is their nature and amount; and how many; and while there is any defect

in this, the inquiry we make will not be very clear. Is it not good time

for that yet? I wish to know about them;—for it is this. Of pleasures

and desires that are not necessary, some seem to me contrary to

law,—which indeed seem engendered in all men:—though owing to the

correction of the laws, and of improved desires aided by reason, they

either forsake some men altogether, or are less numerous and feeble,

while in others they are more powerful and more numerous. Will you

inform me what these are? said he. Such, said I, as are excited in

sleep, when the rest of the soul—which is rational, mild, and its

governing principle, is asleep, and when that part which is savage and

rude, being sated with food and drink, frisks about, drives away sleep,

and seeks to go and accomplish its practices;—in such an one, you know,

it dares to do everything, because it is loosed and disengaged from all

modesty and prudence: for, if it pleases, it scruples not at the

embraces, even of a mother, or any one else, whether gods, men, or

beasts; nor to commit murder, nor abstain from any sort of meat,—and in

one word, it is wanting neither in folly nor shamelessness. You speak

most truly, replied he. But when a man is in good health, methinks, and

lives temperately, and goes to sleep, after exciting his reason, and

feasting it with noble reasonings and investigations, having thus

attained to an internal harmony, and given up the appetites neither to

want nor repletion, that they may be at rest, and not disturb that part

which is best, either by joy or grief, but suffer it by itself alone

without interruption to inquire and long to apprehend what it knows

not,—either something of what has existed, or now exists, or will exist

hereafter; and so also, having soothed the spirited part of the soul,

and not allowed it to be hurried into transports of anger, or to fall

asleep with agitated passion;—but after having quieted these two parts

of the soul, and roused to action that third part, in which wisdom

dwells, he will thus take his rest;—you know, that by such an one the

truth is best apprehended, and the visions of his dreams are then least

of all portrayed contrary to the law. I am quite of this opinion, said

he. We have digressed indeed a little too far in talking of these

things;—but what we want to be known is this, that in every one resides

a certain species of desires that are terrible, savage, and irregular,

even in some that we deem ever so moderate:—and this indeed becomes

manifest in sleep.—Now consider, if I seem to be speaking to the

purpose, and whether you agree with me. Aye, indeed, do.

CHAP. II.—As for the people’s man then, recollect how we described him,

as being brought up somehow from infancy under a parsimonious father,

who valued avaricious desires only; and despised all such as were

unnecessary, arising only out of a love of amusement and finery.[242]

Was he not? Yes. But getting acquainted with the more refined, who are

full of the desires just mentioned, running into all sorts of insolence,

and imbibing their manners through detestation of his father’s

parsimony;—and yet having a better natural temper than his corrupters,

and being drawn opposite ways, he at length settles down into a mode of

life equi-distant from either, and so in his opinion, participating

moderately of each, leads a life neither illiberal nor lawless, after

having thus become a democrat instead of an oligarchist. Yes,—this, said

he, was and is our opinion of such an one. Suppose now again, that, when

such an one has become old, he has a young son educated according to his

own habits. I suppose it. And suppose, too, that the same happens to him

as to his father;—that he is drawn into all lawlessness, which his

seducers call all freedom; and that his father and his domestics are

aiding those intermediate desires;—and that others also lend their

assistance (when these clever conjurers and tyrant-makers have no hopes

of otherwise keeping youth in their power), and so contrive to excite in

him a certain love which is to preside over the passive desires, which

distribute what may be at hand to all the rest,—a certain large-winged

drone;[243]—or what else think you, is that kind of love? For my part,

said he, I think, it is no other than this. Well,—when the rest of the

desires buzz about him, full of their odours and perfumes, and crowns

and wines, and the dissolute pleasures belonging to such

associations,—and at last by their increase and nurture, add to the

drone a sting of desire, then truly he is sentinelled by madness as a

life-guard, and this president of the soul becomes frenzied; and even

should he find in himself any opinions or desires which are deemed good

and modest, he kills them and pushes them from him, till he has ridded

himself of temperance and has become brimful of madness. You perfectly

describe, said he, the formation of a tyrannical man. Is it not for some

such reason as this, said I, that love has of old been said to be a

tyrant? It seems so, replied he. Well, my friend, said I, and is not a

drunken man likewise somewhat of a tyrannical spirit? He is indeed. And

besides that, he that is mad and disturbed in his mind, undertakes and

hopes to be able to govern not only men, but the gods as well. Entirely

so, said he. The tyrannical character then, happy man! becomes so in

full perfection, when either by temper or pursuits, or both, he becomes

drunken and given up to love and melancholy. Perfectly so, indeed.

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Footnote 242:

This refers to the description of the δημοκρατικὸς in book viii. ch.

12.

Footnote 243:

Gr. προστάτην τῶν ἀργῶν καὶ τὰ ἕτοιμα διανεμομένων ἐπιθυμιῶν,

ὑπόπτερον καὶ μέγαν κηφῆνά τινα. This is perhaps the best

rendering;—but the passage is somewhat obscure.

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CHAP. III.—Such an one, it seems, then, is thus engendered,—but how does

he pass his life?—Just as they say in their games, replied he;—“this you

shall tell me too.” I will tell you then, said I;—for I think, that in

the next place, they have feastings and revellings and banquetings and

mistresses, and all such things as may be expected among those with whom

dwells the tyrant love, and governing all in the soul. Necessarily so,

said he. Will there not then, each day and night, blossom forth numerous

fierce desires, eagerly in want of many things? Many indeed. And if they

get any supplies [of their wishes,] these are soon spent? Of course. And

after this there are borrowings and forfeitures of property?[244] Of

course. And when everything fails them, must it not follow, that while

the numerous and powerful desires nestled in the mind, will on the one

hand raise a clamour, the men, on the other hand, who are driven and

goaded by the rest of the passions, but especially by love itself, which

commands all the others as its life-guards, will rage with phrensy, and

seek after people’s property, to see if they can plunder it either by

fraud or violence? Quite so, said he. Of necessity, then, they must

either plunder from all quarters, or else be hampered with great pain

and anguish. Necessarily so. And as in such a man his new pleasures are

greater than those he had before, and depreciate the value of the

others, will he not similarly deem it right for himself, however young,

to have more than his father and mother, and to take away from them,

when he has spent his own portion, applying to his own use what belongs

to his parents? Of course he will, replied he. And if they will not give

it up to him, will he not at first try to pilfer or defraud his parents?

By all means. And should he be unable to do this, he will next use

rapine and violence? I think so, replied he. But supposing, my fine

fellow, that the old man and woman fall out and fight, will he not be

very cautious and wary of doing what is tyrannical? I, for my part, said

he, am not quite sure about the safety of such a person’s parents. But

by Zeus, Adimantus, think you, that for the sake of a newly beloved and

unnecessary mistress, such a person would abandon his long loved and

closely connected mother; or for the sake of a youth newly loved and

with whom he has no ties, give up to stripes his withered but

time-honoured father, and the most ancient of all his friends, suffering

them to be the slaves of these others, by bringing them into the same

house? Yes, by Zeus, I do, said he. It seems indeed, said I, a vastly

blessed thing to be the father of a tyrannical son! Not at all so, said

he. But what, when the father and mother’s riches are beginning to fail

such an one, and when the great swarm of pleasures has been already

collected within him, will he not be the first to scale the wall of some

house, or strip some one of his coat late at night, and after that rifle

some temple?—And in all these acts, as respects the opinions which he

formerly held from boyhood, and which guided his decisions concerning

good and evil, the passions, that are newly loosed from slavery and

placed as the body-guards of Love, will prevail therewith;—and these

indeed had only just been loosed from their dreamy sleep, when he was

himself still under the law and governed by his father, as under a

democracy:—yet afterwards, when tyrannized over by love, such as he

rarely was when in his dreams, he will ever be when awake, nor will he

abstain from slaughter, however horrid, or food, or any deed

whatever:—but that tyrant love within him, living without restraint of

law or government, as if it were sole monarch, will lead on the man it

possesses, as it would a state, to every act of madness, whereby he can

support himself and the mob of passions about him, which partly entering

from without, through evil company, and partly through the manners of

the man and his associates, have been unchained and set at liberty: now

is not this the life of such an one? It is this truly, said he. And if,

said I, there be, only a few such in the state, and the rest of the

people are sober, they go out and serve as guards to other tyrants, or

assist them for hire in case of war: but remain at home during peace and

quiet, giving rise in the state to a great many minor evils. What mean

you? Such as these: they steal, break open houses, cut purses, strip

people of their clothes, rifle temples, make people slaves, and, where

they can speak, sometimes turn false informers, give false testimony,

and take bribes.[245] These then you call minor mischiefs, said he,—if

there be but a few such persons. What is small, said I, is small in

comparison to the great; and all these things with regard to the tyrant,

when compared with the wickedness and misery of the state, do not, as

the saying is, come near the mark; for when the state has many such, and

others for their companions, and when they perceive their own number,

then these are the persons who, led by the people’s folly, elevate to

the tyranny the man among them who has within his soul most of the

tyrant, and in the greatest strength. Probably so, indeed, said he; for

he will be most suited for a tyrant. Of course, if they voluntarily

submit to him:—but if the state will not allow him to use the violence

towards them, with which he formerly treated his father and mother, so

he will now again, if he can, chastise his country by bringing in his

youthful associates, and enslaving under them, as the Cretans say, his

once dear mother-land and father-land:—and this will of course be the

issue of such a man’s desire. Entirely so, said he. Do not these then

behave thus in private life, said I;—even before becoming rulers; first

with the company they keep, either associating with their own flatterers

and those who are ready to supply their every want; or if they ask one

for anything, falling down as suppliants, and deigning to assume the

disguise of friends; but after they have gained their own purposes,

acting as foes? Quite so. Throughout life then they live as real friends

to no one whatever, but always either as masters or slaves to

another;—because for liberty and true friendship the tyrant’s nature has

no relish whatever. Quite so. May we not rightly call these men

faithless? Of course. And as unjust, moreover, as they possibly can be,

if indeed we, in what we said before were rightly agreed as to the

nature of justice? Aye, we were quite right, said he. Let us then give a

summary account, said I, of this worst man of ours; he is the same kind

of person, awake perhaps, whom we just described as asleep. Entirely so.

And does not that man become such, who with a tyrannical nature holds

the sovereign sway, and the longer he lives in tyrant-life become so

more and more? Necessarily so, replied Glaucon, taking up the discourse.

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Footnote 244:

Gr. δανεισμοὶ καὶ τῆς οὐσίας παραιρέσεις, lit. _the borrowing of money

on usury, and the seizure of property for non-payment_.

Footnote 245:

These grave crimes are almost similarly enumerated in the Gorgias, p.

508 e, and also by Xenophon, Mem. i. ch. 2, s. 62.

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CHAP. IV.—And will not the man, said I, who appears the most wicked,

appear likewise the most wretched; and will not he who holds the tyranny

longest and exercises it most, be really such in the greatest measure

and for the longest time?—but many as are men, so many are their minds.

Of necessity, said he, these things must be so. And would not the tyrant

man, said I, as closely resemble a state under tyranny, as the

democratic man resembles the state under democracy, and so likewise as

respects the others? Of course. As state then is to state with regard to

virtue and happiness, so surely will man be to man likewise? Of course.

What then is the state governed by a tyrant as compared with one under a

kingly government,—such as we first described? The exact contrary, said

he; for the one is best, and the other the worst. I will not ask, said

I, which you mean, for that is plain; but do you judge is it thus or

otherwise, that you judge of their happiness and misery?—and let us not

be struck with admiration when considering the tyrant himself, or the

few about him; but let us, as we ought, enter into the whole state, and

declare our opinion, after going through and viewing every part. You

propose what is right, said he:—and it is clear to all that no state is

more wretched than one under tyranny, and none more happy than that

under regal power. Well then, said I, in proposing these same things

with respect to individual men, should I rightly propose, if I accounted

that man a suitable judge of them, who can by intellectual power

penetrate into and inspect a man’s disposition, and is not, as a child

looking at exteriors, astounded by the pomp, which tyrants exhibit to

those without, but has the power of looking properly through him? If

then I thought that we should all listen to the man, who from having

dwelt with him in the same house, and been joined in his family

transactions, is able to judge how he behaves to each of his domestics,

[in which most especially a man appears stripped of his actor’s finery,]

and so also in public dangers; and if when he has observed all this, I

were to bid him declare how the tyrant stands, as regards happiness and

misery, in comparison with others.[246] You would be quite right in

proposing this, observed he. Are you willing then, said I, that we

should set up to be of the number of those who are able to judge, and

who have already fallen in with such characters, so that we may have

some one to answer our questions? By all means.

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Footnote 246:

Euripides, Jon. v. 621-4, has a similar sentiment beautifully

expressed:—

τυραννίδος δὲ τῆς μάτην αἰνουμένης

τὸ μὲν πρόσωπον ἡδὺ τἀν δόμοισι δὲ

λυπηρά· τίς γὰρ μακάριος τίς εὐτυχής,

ὅστις δεδοικὼς καὶ περιβλέπων βίαν

αἰῶνα τείνει;

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CHAP. V.—Come then, said I, thus consider it:—call to mind the mutual

resemblance of the state and individual man; and thus, considering each

by turns, describe to us the passions of each. What passions? said he.

To begin first, said I, with the state;—do you call the one under

tyranny, free or enslaved? Enslaved, said he, in the greatest degree

possible. And moreover, you see in it some who are masters and freemen?

I see some indeed, said he, but exceedingly few:—but the greatest and

best part therein generally is shamefully and wretchedly enslaved. If

then, said I, the individual man resembles the state, will he not

necessarily be placed under like circumstances, and his soul be filled

with slavery and illiberality, and those parts of it too be enslaved

which were the most noble, and that small part of it too assume the

mastery, which is the most wicked and insane of all? Quite so, said he.

What then,—will you say, that such a soul is slavish or free? Slavish

perhaps, I say. But is not the state that is slavish, and governed by

tyranny, least of all able to do what it likes? Aye,—quite so. And

speaking of a soul generally, will it not, when governed by tyranny,

least of all do what it likes,—but being constantly hurried by some

stinging passion, be full of tumult and inconstancy? Of course it must

be so. But will the state governed by tyranny be necessarily rich or

poor? Poor. And must a soul under a tyranny then be ever penurious and

insatiable? Just so, said he. But what,—must not such a state and such

an individual be necessarily full of fear? It must be so. As for

lamentations, and groans, and weepings, and torments, think you that you

would find more in any other kind of state? By no means. And in a man,

think you that such things exist in any one to a greater extent than in

this tyrannical one who is maddened by his desires and lusts? How can

they? said he. It is with reference, I suppose, then to all these, and

other such like things, that you have deemed this the most wretched of

all states? Was I not right then in doing so? said he. Certainly, said

I. But what say you again as respects the tyrannical man, with regard to

these same things? That he is by far, said he, the most wretched of all

in the world. This, replied I, you are not quite correct in saying. How?

said he. He is not as yet, methinks, said I, as unhappy as he can be.

But who is so? The following person probably you will deem even yet more

miserable than the other. Which? That man, said I, who being naturally

tyrannical, remains not in private life, but is unfortunate enough to be

induced by his destiny to become a tyrant. From what has been formerly

observed, said he, I presume that what you say is true. Yes, said I;—but

we ought not merely to conjecture about matters so important as these,

but to sift them to the bottom, in the way we are now about to do;[247]

for most momentous is the inquiry about a good life and a bad one. Quite

right, said he. Consider, then, whether there be anything in what I say;

for, in considering this question, it is my opinion that we ought to

perceive it from what follows. From what? From every individual private

man, among such as are rich, and possess many slaves; for these have at

least this resemblance to tyrants, that they rule over many,—the

difference being in the multitude of the latter. Aye,—there is some

difference. Are you sure then that these live securely, without dread of

their domestics? Aye.—for what should they fear? Nothing, said I; but do

you understand the reason? Yes;—because the whole state assists each

particular individual. You say right, replied I:—but what,—if one of the

gods were to take a man who had fifty slaves or upwards out of the

state,—both himself, his wife, and children,—and set them down in a

desert with the rest of his property, and his domestics, where no

freemen would be likely to lend him aid,—what kind of fear, think you,

he would entertain about himself, his children, and his wife, of being

destroyed by the domestics? The greatest possible, methinks, replied he.

Would he not be obliged to flatter some of his very slaves and make them

many promises, and set them at liberty without need, and so appear to be

himself the flatterer of servants? He must of course be compelled to do

so, said he, or else be destroyed. But what, said I;—if the god were to

place round him many other neighbours who could not endure for any one

to pretend to lord it over another,—and, wherever they find such an one,

punished him with extreme rigour? Methinks, he would be still more

distressed, said he, when thus beset by a whole host of foes. And is not

the tyrant bound in such a prison-house, if he be of such disposition as

we have described,—full of many and all kinds of aversions and desires;

and whilst he is most eager in his soul, he alone of all in the state is

not allowed to go abroad, or to see what others love to see, but huddles

himself at home, and lives mostly as a woman, envying the other

citizens, whenever they travel abroad, and see what is good? Wholly so,

of course, replied he.

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Footnote 247:

Gr. οὐκ οἴεσθαι χρὴ τὰ τοιαῦτα, ἀλλ’ εὖ μάλα τῷ τοιούτῳ λόγῳ σκοπεῖν;

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CHAP. VI.—Well, then, through such evils as these, does not the man reap

still more, who, being ill-governed within himself, [a person whom you

just now deemed to be the most of all wretched,] remains not in private

station, but through some fortune or other is obliged to act the tyrant,

and, though unable to control himself, attempts to govern others, as if

with a body diseased, and unable to support itself, one were compelled

to live not in a state of privacy, but in wrestling and fighting against

other bodies? What you say, Socrates, replied he, is altogether most

probable and true. Is not this condition, then, dear Glaucon, said I,

altogether wretched; and does not the tyrant live more wretchedly even

than the man that you conceive to live the most wretchedly of all? Quite

so, replied he. True is it, then, though one may fancy otherwise, that

the really tyrannical man is really a slave to the greatest flatteries

and slaveries, and a flatterer of the most abandoned men; and without

ever in the smallest degree satisfying his desires, he is of all men

most in want of most things, and poor indeed, if one could but look into

his whole soul, and full of fear throughout life, filled with terrors

and griefs,—if, indeed, he resembles the constitution of the state he

rules:—and he does resemble it; does he not? Extremely, said he.

And in addition to this, shall we not ascribe also to the tyrant-man

what we formerly mentioned that he must necessarily be, and by governing

become increasingly, envious, faithless, unjust, unfriendly,

impious,—the entertainer and encourager of all vice; and from all these

causes be specially happy himself, and render all about him happy

likewise? No one of understanding will, said he, contradict you. Come,

then, said I, as a judge who is examining the whole case; so tell

me,—who, in your opinion, is first in happiness, and who second, and the

rest in order, five in all; namely, the regal, the timocratic, the

oligarchal, the democratic, and the tyrannic. Easy, indeed, is this

decision, said he:—for as they came before us, I have judged of them as

public actors, by their virtue and vice,—happiness and its contrary.

Shall we then hire ourselves a herald? said I; or shall I myself

declare, that the son of Ariston has judged the best and justest man to

be the happiest, [and that this is the man who is fittest to be as king,

and as king too over himself;] and that the worst and the most unjust is

the most wretched; and that he is the most tyrannical, who in the

greatest degree tyrannizes over himself and the state? So let it be

pronounced by you, said he. Must I, then, state in addition, said I,

whether they be unknown to be such or not, to all men, and the gods too?

Pray do so, said he.

CHAP. VII.—Well then, said I;—-this would seem to be one of our proofs;

and this, if you please, must be the second. Which is this? Since the

soul, said I, of every individual is divided into three parts, just as

we divided our state, it will, in my opinion, admit of a second

illustration. What is that? It is this:—of the parts of the soul there

appear to me to be three pleasures, one peculiar to each, with desires

and governments in like manner. How say you? replied he. One part we

say, by which a man learns, another by which he is roused to spirit; but

as for the third, it is so multiform, that we cannot express it by any

one word peculiar to itself, but have named it from the greatest and

most impetuous part thereof; calling it the desiderative, from the

impetuosity of the desires for eating and drinking, and sexual

pleasures, and such-like enjoyments, and calling it money-loving also,

as it is through wealth most especially that such desires are

accomplished. And we said rightly, replied he. Well, then, if we are to

call it the pleasure and delight in gain, shall we not do best to reduce

it under one head in our discourse, so that we may have something quite

clear to ourselves, when we are speaking of this part of the soul? And

in calling it money-loving, and profit-loving, shall we not be giving it

its proper term? Yes, I think so, said he. But what; do not we say, that

the spirited principle ought to be wholly impelled to superiority,

victory, and applause? Especially so. If, then, we term it the

contentious and ambitious, shall we not accurately express it? Most

accurately. But [as regards that part of the soul] by which we gain

knowledge, it is clear to every one, that it is wholly intent on always

knowing the truth, wherever it may be; and as to wealth and glory, least

of all does it care for these. Just so. By terming it, then, the love of

learning, and philosophy, we shall be defining it correctly? Of course.

And in these people’s souls, said I, one governs in some, and the other

in others, as it happens? Just so, said he. This was why we said then,

that of men also there were three original species; the philosophic, the

ambitious, and the avaricious? Surely so. And likewise three species of

pleasures,—corresponding to each of the others? Yes, certainly. You

know, then, said I, that if you were to ask these three men, by turns,

which of these lives is the pleasantest, each would most commend his

own; and the money-maker would say, that, compared with the pleasures of

acquiring wealth, those arising from honour, or learning, are of no

value, unless they bring in money? True, said he. And what says the

ambitious man? said I: does not he deem the pleasure arising from

money-making a sort of burden;—and again, that which arises from

learning, unless it bring him honour, mere smoke and trifling? So it is,

said he. And as for the philosopher, said I, we may suppose that he

deems all other pleasures in comparison with that of knowing the nature

of truth as a mere nothing, and that, while constantly employed in

learning something of this kind, he is not far off from pleasure,—and

calls them really necessary, because he wanted none else, except when

compelled by necessity.[248] This, said he, you should well know.

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Footnote 248:

The real _spiritual_ nature of this truth is beautifully expressed in

the Phædo, p. 67 a:—καὶ ἐν ᾧ ἂν ζῶμεν, οὕτως—ἐγγυτάτω ἐσόμεθα τοῦ

εἰδέναι, ἐὰν ὅτι μάλιστα μηδὲν ὁμιλῶμεν τῷ σώματι μηδὲ κοινωνῶμεν, ὅτι

μὴ πᾶσα ἀνάγκη, μηδὲ ἀναπιμπλώμεθα τῆς τούτου φύσεως, ἀλλὰ καθαρεύωμεν

ἀπ’ αὐτοῦ, ἕως ἂν ὁ Θεὸς αὐτὸς ἀπολύσῃ ἡμᾶς.

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CHAP. VIII.—When these several lives then, said I, and the pleasures

peculiar to each, are at variance with each other, not with reference to

a mode of life, worthier or more base, worse or better,—but merely with

reference to living more pleasantly or painfully;—how can we know which

of the two speaks most in accordance with truth? I am not, said he,

quite able to tell. But consider it thus:—by what criterion ought we to

judge about matters rightly presented for our judgment;—is it not by

experience, prudence, and reason,—or can we find any better criterion

than these? How can we? said he. Consider now;—of the three men, who is

the most experienced in all the pleasures?—Think you that the

money-loving man, by learning the real nature of truth, gains more

experience in the pleasure arising from knowledge, than the philosopher

has in that resulting from the acquisition of wealth? There is a great

difference, said he: for the philosopher must necessarily from early

childhood taste the other pleasures; but what it is to know real beings,

and how sweet is its pleasure, the money-getting man need not taste, or

become experienced therein;—nay, indeed, it is no easy matter, even

should he earnestly try to accomplish it. The philosopher then, said I,

far surpasses the money-getting man, at least in experience of both the

pleasures. Far indeed. But what as regards the ambitious man—has he any

more experience in the pleasure arising from honour, than the

philosopher in that which arises from the exercise of intellect? Honour,

indeed, said he, attends them all, if each obtains his object: for the

rich man is honoured by many, and so is the brave, and the wise; so all

of them have experience, as to the kind of pleasure attending honour,

but in the contemplation of being itself, as to the pleasure which it

gives, it is impossible for any other than the philosopher to have

tasted it. On the ground of experience then, said I, he of all men is

the best judge. By far. And surely, including prudence also, he alone

has experience. Of course. But the organ, by which these pleasures must

be judged, is not the organ of the money-getter, nor of the ambitious

man, but of the philosopher. Which is that? We said somewhere, that they

must be judged of by reason,—did we not? Yes. But reasoning is chiefly

the organ of the philosopher? Of course it is. If then the things to be

determined could be best determined by riches and gain, what the

money-getting man commended, or despised, would necessarily be most

agreeable to truth? Quite so. And if by honour, victory, and

courage,—must it not be as the ambitious and contentious man determined?

It is evident. But since it is by experience, prudence, and reason, it

follows of course, said he, that what is praised by the philosopher and

the lover of reason must be the most true.—Of the three pleasures, then,

that which belongs to that part of the soul by which we learn most is

the most pleasant, and that man in whom this part of us holds the chief

sway lives the pleasantest life. How can it be doubted? said he:—for the

wise man, who has the supreme right to commend, commends his own life.

But which life, said I, does our judge pronounce the second, and which

the second pleasure? Plainly, that of the warlike and ambitious man; for

this is nearer to his own than that of the money-getter. And that of the

covetous, as it appears, is last of all? Of course, said he.

CHAP. IX.—These things then will succeed one another in order; and the

just man will twice prevail over the unjust:—the third victory now, as

at the Olympic games, is sacred to Olympian Zeus, the Saviour; for you

must consider, that, with the exception of that of the wise man, the

pleasure of the others is by no means genuine nor pure, but somehow

shadowed over, as I think I have myself heard from one of the wise

men:—and this truly would be the greatest and most complete downfal.

Extremely so;—but how mean you? I will thus trace it out, said I, whilst

in searching you answer my questions. Ask then, said he. Tell me then,

said I, do we not say that pain is contrary to pleasure? Quite so. And

do we not say likewise, that to feel neither pleasure nor pain is

something? We say it is. And that the state between both of these is a

certain tranquillity of the soul with reference to them;—do you not so

understand it? Just so, he replied. Do you not remember, said I, the

speeches of the diseased, which they utter when they are sick? What are

they? That nothing is sweeter than health, but that it escaped their

notice before they became sick, that it was the sweetest. I remember it,

said he. And are you not wont to hear those who are under acute pain

say, that there is nothing sweeter than a cessation from pain? I do hear

them. And you may perceive the same thing in men, I think, when they are

in other but similar circumstances, where, if in pain, they extol a

freedom from pain and the tranquillity of such a state, as being most

sweet, though they do not extol that of feeling joy. Because perhaps the

latter, said he, becomes at that time sweet and desirable,—namely,

tranquillity. And when any one ceases, said I, from feeling joy, the

tranquillity of pleasure will be painful. Perhaps so, said he. This

tranquillity, then, which we just now said was between the two, will at

times become both pain and pleasure. It seems so. What,—is it possible,

that what is neither of the two should become both? I do not think so.

And moreover, when what is pleasant or painful is in the soul, both

sensations are a certain excitement; are they not? Yes. But did not that

which is neither painful nor pleasant appear just now to be

tranquillity, and between these two? It did appear so. How is it right,

then, to deem it sweet not to be in pain, or painful not to enjoy

pleasure? It is by no means right. In these cases, then, tranquillity is

not really so, said I; but it appears pleasant by comparison with the

painful, and painful compared with the pleasant; and there is nothing

genuine in these appearances as regards the truth of pleasure, but a

certain magical delusion. Aye,—just as our argument proves, he replied.

Consider the pleasures then, said I, which do not arise from the

cessation of pain, so as not frequently during our discussion to hold

the frequent notion that these two naturally thus subsist; viz., that

pleasure is the cessation of pain, and pain the cessation of pleasure.

How, said he, and to what pleasures do you allude? There are many

others, said I, particularly if you wish to consider the pleasures that

arise from smell; for these, without any preceding pain, are on a sudden

immensely great, and, when they cease, they leave no pain behind them.

Most true, said he. Let us not then be persuaded that pure pleasure is

the removal of pain, or pain the removal of pleasure. No, we will not.

But yet, said I, those which extend through the body to the soul, and

which are called pleasures, the greatest part of them almost, and the

most considerable, are of this species,—certain cessations from pain?

They are so. And are not the preconceptions of pleasure and pain, which

arise in the mind from their expectation, of the same kind? Of the same.

CHAP. X.—Do you know then, said I, of what class they are, and what they

chiefly resemble? What? said he. Do you conceive, said I, there is any

such thing in nature as this, the above, the below, and the middle? I

do. Do you think then that any one, when brought from the below to the

middle, imagines anything else than that he is brought to the above; and

when he stands in the middle, and looks down whence he was brought, will

he imagine that he is anywhere else than above, whilst yet he has not

seen the true above? By Zeus, said he, I do not think that such an one

will imagine otherwise. But if he should again, said I, be carried to

the below, he would conjecture he was carried to the below, and

conjecture rightly? He would of course. Would he not be thus affected

from his want of experience in what is really above, and in the middle,

and below? Plainly so. Would you wonder then, that while men are

inexperienced in the truth, they have unsound opinions about many other

things,—and that as to pleasure and pain, and what is between these,

they are likewise affected in the same manner; so that, even when they

are brought to what is painful, they conceive truly, and are really

pained; but when from pain they are brought to the middle, they strongly

imagine that they have arrived at the highest pitch of pleasure, in the

same manner as those, who along with the black colour look at the gray,

through inexperience of the white, and so are deceived? and just so

those who consider pain along with the freedom from pain, are deceived

through inexperience of pleasure. By Zeus, said he, I should not wonder,

but much rather if it were not so. Consider the matter thus, said I; are

not hunger and thirst, and such-like things, certain emptinesses in the

bodily habit? Of course. And are not ignorance and folly an emptiness in

the habit of the soul? Quite so. And is not the one filled when it

receives food, and the other when it acquires intelligence? Surely. But

which is the more real repletion, that of the less, or the more truly

real being? It is plain, that of the more real. Which species, then, do

you think, participate most of a purer essence; those which partake of

bread and drink, and meat, and all such sort of nourishment; or that

species which partakes of true opinion and science, and intelligence,

and, in short, of all virtue?—And judge of it thus:—That which is

connected with what is always similar, and immortal, and true, and is so

of itself, and arises in what is of the same character, think you that

it has more of the reality of being, than what is connected to what is

never similar and mortal, and is such itself, and is generated in a

thing of the same character? Aye, said he, this differs greatly from

that which is always similar. Does then the essence of that which is

always similar participate more of essence than of science? By no means.

But what as regards truth? Nor of this neither. If it participate less

of truth, does it not likewise do so of essence? Of necessity. In short,

then, do not those species which relate to the care of the body partake

less of truth and essence, than those relating to the care of the soul?

By far. And the body likewise less than the soul; do you not think so? I

do. Is not that which is filled with more real beings, and is itself a

more real being, in reality more truly filled than that which is filled

with less real beings, and is itself a less real being? Of course it is.

If then it be pleasant to be filled with what is suitable to nature,

that which is in reality filled, and with more real being, must be made

both more really and more truly to enjoy true pleasure; but that which

participates of less real being, must be less truly and solidly filled,

and participates of a more uncertain and less genuine pleasure. Most

necessarily, said he. Such then as are unacquainted with wisdom and

virtue, and are always conversant in feastings and things of that kind,

are carried, as it appears, to the below, and back again to the

middle;—and there they wander during life:—but as they never pass beyond

this, they do not look towards the true above, and are not carried to

it; nor are they ever really filled with real being; nor have they ever

tasted solid and pure pleasure; but, after the manner of brutes looking

always downwards, bowed towards earth and their tables, they live

feeding and coupling; and from a lust for such things, they kick and

push at one another as with iron horns and hoofs, and perish through

their own insatiety, just like those who are filling with unreal being

that which is no real being, nor friendly to themselves. You are

describing, Socrates, with quite oracular perfection, rejoined Glaucon,

what is the life of the multitude. Must they not then, of necessity be

conversant with pleasures mixed with pains, images of the true pleasure,

shadowed in outline, and coloured by their position beside each other;

so that both their pleasures and pains will appear vehement, and

engender their mad passions in the foolish? Hence also they must fight

about these things, as Stesichorus says those at Troy fought about the

image of Helen, through ignorance of the true one. Of necessity, said

he, something of this kind must take place.

CHAP. XI.—But what? must not the same things necessarily happen to the

irascible part of the soul, whenever any one gratifies it, either

through envy from ambition, or violence from contentiousness, or anger

from moroseness, pursuing a glut of honour, of conquest, and of anger,

both without reason, and without intelligence? Such things as these,

said he, must necessarily happen with relation to this part of the soul.

What then, said I;—can we confidently say concerning all the pleasures,

both as respects the avaricious and the ambitious part, that such of

them as obey science and reason, and, in conjunction therewith, pursue

and obtain the pleasures of which the prudent part of the soul is the

leader, that these will obtain the truest pleasures, as far as it is

possible for them to attain true pleasure, and in as much as they follow

truth, pleasures properly their own; if indeed what is best for each be

most properly his own? Aye, it surely is most properly his own, said he.

When then the whole soul is obedient to the philosophic part, and there

is no sedition in it, then every part in other respects performs its

proper business, and is just, and also reaps its own pleasures, and such

as are the best, and as far as is possible the most genuine. Certainly,

indeed. But when any of the others governs, it happens that it neither

attains its own pleasures, and it compels the other parts to pursue a

pleasure foreign to them, and not at all genuine. It does so, said he.

Will not then those parts, which are most remote from philosophy and

reason most especially effect such things? Very much so. And is not that

which is most remote from law and order, most remote likewise from

reason? It plainly is. And have not the amorous and the tyrannical

desires appeared to be most remote from law and order? Extremely so. And

the royal and the moderate ones, the least remote? Yes. The tyrant then,

I think, will be the most remote from true pleasure, and such as is most

properly his own, and the other will be the least. Of necessity. And the

tyrant, said I, will lead a life the most unpleasant, and the king the

most pleasant. Of great necessity. Do you know then, said I, how much

more unpleasant a life the tyrant leads than the king? If you tell me,

said he. As there are three pleasures, as it seems, one legitimate, and

two illegitimate; the tyrant in carrying the legitimate to extremity,

and flying from law and reason, dwells with slavish pleasures as his

life-guardians, and how far he is inferior cannot easily be told, unless

it be done in this manner. How? said he. The tyrant is somehow in the

third degree remote from the oligarchic character; for the democratic

was halfway between them. Yes. Will he not then dwell in the third

picture of pleasure, distant from him as regards truth, if our former

reasonings be true? Just so. But the oligarchic is the third again from

the royal, if we suppose the aristocratic and the royal the same? He is

the third. The tyrant then, said I, is remote from true pleasure, the

third from the third? So it seems. A plain surface then, said I, may be

the image of tyrannical pleasure, as to the computation of length.

Certainly. But as to power, and the third augment, it is manifest by how

great a distance it is remote. It is manifest, said he, to the computer

at least. If now, conversely, any one shall say the king is distant from

the tyrant as to truth of pleasure, as much as is the distance 9, and

20, and 700, shall he not, on completing the multiplication, find him

leading the more pleasant life, and the tyrant the more wretched one, by

this same distance?[249] You have heaped up, said he, a prodigious

account of the difference between these two men, the just and the

unjust, with reference to pleasure and pain. Yet the numbers are true,

said I, and corresponding to their lives, if indeed days, and nights,

and months, and years, correspond to them. But they do correspond, said

he. If then the good and just man surpasses so far the evil and unjust

man in pleasure, in what a prodigious degree further shall he surpass

him in decorum of life, in beauty, and in virtue! Prodigious, indeed, by

Zeus, he replied.

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Footnote 249:

The following numbers are employed by Plato in this place. He

considers the _Royal_ character as analogous to unity, the Oligarchic

to the number 3, and the Tyrannic to the number 9. As 3 therefore is

triple of unity, the Oligarchic is the third from the Royal character;

and in a similar manner the Tyrant is distant from the Oligarchist by

the triple in number; for 9 is the triple of 3, just as 3 is the

triple of 1. But 9 is a plane number, the length of which is 3, and

also its breadth. And a tyrannic, says Plato, is the last image of a

royal life. He also calls 3 a _power_, because unity being multiplied

by it, and itself by itself, and 9 by it, there will be produced 3, 9,

27. But he calls the third augment 27, arising from the multiplication

of the power 3, and producing depth or a solid number. Lastly, 27

multiplied into itself produces 729, which may be considered as a

perfect multiplication, this number being the 6th power of 3; and 6 as

is well known is a perfect number. Hence, as the King is analogous to

1, he is said, by Plato, to be 729 times distant from the Tyrant.

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CHAP. XII.—Well then, said I, since we have reached this part of our

argument, let us recapitulate what we first said, on account of which we

came hither: now it was said, if I mistake not, that it is advantageous

to one who is thoroughly unjust, but who has the character of being

just, to commit injustice. Was it not so said? It was indeed. Now then,

said I, let us settle this point, since we have now settled the other,

with reference to acting justly and unjustly, what power each of these

possesses in itself. How? said he. Let us ideally fashion an image of

the soul, that the man who said those things may know what he said. What

kind of image? said he. One of those creatures, said I, which are fabled

to have been of old, as that of Chimæra, of Scylla, of Cerberus; and

many others are spoken of, where many particular natures existed

together in one. They are spoken of indeed, said he. Let us form now the

figure of a creature, various, and many-headed,[250] having all around

heads of tame creatures, and of wild, and having power in itself of

changing all these heads, and of breeding them out of itself. This is

the work, said he, of a skilful modeller: however, as the formation is

easier in reasoning, than in wax and such-like, let it be formed. Let

there be now one other figure of a lion[251] and one of a man; but let

the first be by far the greatest, and the second be the second in bulk.

These are easy, said he, and they are formed. Unite now these three in

one, so that they may somehow coexist. They are united, said he. Form

now around them the external appearance of one of them, that of the man;

so that to one who is not able to see what is within, but who perceives

only the external covering, the man may appear one creature. It is

formed all round, said he. Let us now tell him who asserts that it is

profitable to this man to do injustice, but to do justice unprofitable,

that he asserts nothing else, than that it is profitable for him to

feast the multiform creature, and to make it strong; and likewise the

lion, and what respects the lion, whilst the man he kills with famine,

and renders weak, so as to be dragged whichever way either of those drag

him; and that he will also find it advantageous never to accustom the

one to live in harmony with the other, nor to make them friends, but

suffer them to bite one another, and to fight and devour each other. He,

said he, who commends the doing injustice, undoubtedly asserts these

things. And does not he again, who says it is advantageous to act

justly, say that he ought to do and to say such things by which the

inner man shall come to have the most entire command of the man, and, as

a tiller of the ground, shall take care of the many-headed creature,

cherishing the mild ones, and nourishing them, and hindering the wild

ones from growing up, taking the nature of the lion as his ally, and,

having a common care for all, make them friendly to one another, and to

himself, and so nourish them? He who commends justice undoubtedly says

such things as these. In all respects, then, he who commends justice

would seem to speak the truth, but he who commends injustice, to speak

what is false; for, as respects pleasure, applause, and profit, he who

commends justice speaks the truth, and he who discommends it speaks

nothing genuine; nor does he discommend with understanding what he

discommends. Not at all, said he, as appears to me at least. Let us then

in a mild manner persuade him (for it is not willingly he errs), asking

him, O blessed man! do not we say that the maxims of things beautiful

and base become so upon such accounts as these? Those are good which

make the brutal part of our nature most subject to the man, or rather

perhaps to that which is divine; while those are evil which enslave the

mild part of our nature to the brutal:—will he agree with us,—or how? He

will, if he be advised by me, said he. Is there then any one, said I,

whom it avails, from this reasoning, to take gold unjustly, supposing

something of this kind to happen, if, while taking the money, he at the

same time subjects the best part of himself to the worst? Or, if, taking

gold, he should enslave a son or daughter, and that even to savage and

wicked men, shall we not say this would not avail him, not though he

should receive for it a prodigious sum? But if he enslaves the most

divine part of himself to the most impious and most polluted part,

without any pity, is he not wretched? and does he not take a gift of

gold to his far more dreadful ruin, than Eriphyle did when she received

the necklace for her husband’s life? By far, said Glaucon; for I will

answer you for him.

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Footnote 250:

By this many-headed beast, _desire_ is signified.

Footnote 251:

The lion signifies _anger_, and the figure of a man _reason_; for the

whole soul is divided into reason, anger, and desire.

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CHAP. XIII.—Do you not, then, think that intemperance has of old been

blamed on these accounts, because in such persons that terrible, great,

and multiform beast was indulged more than was decent? Plainly so, said

he. And are not arrogance and moroseness blamed, when the lion-like and

serpentine disposition increases and stretches beyond measure?

Certainly. And are not luxury and effeminacy blamed because of the

remissness and looseness of this disposition, when it engenders

cowardice in the man? What else? Are not flattery and illiberality

blamed, when any one makes this irascible part itself subject to the

brutal crew, and, for the sake of wealth and its insatiable lust,

accustoms the irascible to be affronted from its youth, and instead of a

lion to become an ape? Entirely so, said he. But why is it, do you

think, that mechanical arts and handicrafts bring disgrace? Shall we say

it is on any other account than this, that when a man has the form of

that which is best in his soul naturally weak, so as not to be able to

govern the creatures within himself, but ministers to them, he is able

only to learn what flatters them? It is likely, said he. In order then

that such an one may be governed in the same manner as the best man is,

do we not say that he must be the servant of one who is the best, and

who has within him the divine governing principle? not at all conceiving

that he should be governed to the hurt of the subject (as Thrasymachus

imagined), but, as it is best for every one to be governed, by one

divine and wise, most especially possessing it as his own within him, if

not subjecting himself to it externally; that as far as possible we may

all resemble one another and be friends, governed by one and the same?

Rightly, indeed, said he. And law at least, said I, plainly shows it

intends such a thing, being an ally to all in the city; as does likewise

the government of children, in not allowing them to be free till we

establish in them a proper government, as in a city; and having

cultivated that in them which is best, by that which is best in

ourselves, we establish a similar guardian and governor for youth, and

then at length we set it free. It shows it indeed, said he. In what way

then shall we say, Glaucon, and according to what reasoning, that it is

profitable to do injustice, to be intemperate, or to do anything base,

by which a man shall indeed become more wicked, but yet shall acquire

more wealth, or any kind of power? In no way, said he. But how shall we

say it is profitable for the unjust to be concealed, and not to suffer

punishment? or does he not indeed, who is concealed, still become more

wicked? but he who is not concealed, and is punished, has the brutal

part quieted, and made mild, and the mild part set at liberty. And the

whole soul being settled in the best temper, in possessing temperance

and justice, with wisdom, acquires a more valuable habit than the body

does, in acquiring vigour and beauty, with a sound constitution; in as

far as the soul is more valuable than the body. Entirely so, said he.

Will not everybody then, who possesses intellect, regulate his life,

first by extending hither the whole of his powers, honouring those

branches of science which will render his soul of this kind, and

despising all other things? It is plain, said he. And next, said I, with

regard to a good habit of body and its nourishment, he will spend his

life in attention to these, not that he may indulge the brutal and

irrational pleasure; nor yet with a view to health, nor principally with

reference to becoming strong, healthy, and beautiful, unless by these

means he is to become temperate likewise: but he always appears to

adjust the harmony of the body for the sake of the symphony which is in

the soul. By all means, said he, if indeed he is to be truly musical.

Will he not then, in acquiring wealth, maintain accord and symphony? nor

moved by the congratulations of the multitude will he increase the bulk

of his treasures to an infinite amount, occasioning thereby infinite

evils? I think not, said he. But looking, said I, to the government of

it himself, and taking care that nothing there be moved out of its

place, through the greatness or smallness of his property, thus

governing as far as he is able, he will add to his property, and spend

out of it. Entirely so, said he. He will regard honours, likewise, in

the same manner; of some he will willingly take a share, and taste of

those which he judges will render him a better man, but as for those

which he thinks would dissolve that habit of soul which subsists within

him, he will fly from both those privately and in public. He will not be

willing, then, said he, to act the politician, if he takes care of this.

Yes, truly, said I, in his own state, and greatly too; but not probably

in his country, unless some divine fortune befal him. I understand, said

he. You mean in the state we have now established, which exists only in

our reasoning, but I think has no existence on earth. But in heaven,

probably,—said I, there is a model of it, for any one who inclines to

contemplate it, and on contemplating to regulate himself accordingly;

and to him it matters not whether it does exist anywhere, or will ever

exist here:—for he would perform the duties of this city alone, and of

no other. It is reasonable, said he.

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