CHAPTER IV.

The Duke of Wellington's Administration--Huskisson's Speech--

Irritation of Mr. Canning's Friends--Tom Duncombe's Maiden

Speech--Mr. Huskisson resigns and the Canningites quit the

Government--Princess Lieven Hostile to the Duke--The Catholic

Question--Jockey Club Dinner at St. James's--Lord Lyndhurst--

Sir Robert Adair--Fox and Burke--Fox and Pitt--The Lord High

Admiral dismissed by the King--Dawson's Speech on Catholic

Emancipation--The King's Health--His Pages--State of Ireland--

Marquis of Anglesey--O'Connell--His Influence in Ireland--Lord

Belmore Governor of Jamaica--The Duke's Letter to Dr. Curtis--

Recall of Lord Anglesey from Ireland--Causes of this Event--

Excitement of the King on the Catholic Question--His Aversion

to Sir William Knighton--Character of George IV.--Denman's Silk

Gown--Pension to Lady Westmeath--Duke of Wellington on Russia--

The Reis-Effendi--Duke of Northumberland goes to Ireland--Privy

Council Register--State Paper Office--The Gunpowder Plot--

Catholic Emancipation--Navarino.

[Page Head: IRRITATION OF THE WHIGS.]

January 28th, 1828 {p.124}

Until the Duke of Wellington's commission as First Lord of the

Treasury appeared many people doubted that he would take the

office.[1] The Ordnance was offered to Lord Rosslyn, who refused

it, and then given to Lord Beresford, but without a seat in the

Cabinet (as Lord Bathurst told me) by his own particular desire.

Some days have now elapsed, and time has been afforded for the

expression of popular feeling and opinion on the late changes.

Lady Canning and many of Canning's friends are very much

dissatisfied with Huskisson, and think he deserted his principles

and outraged the memory of Canning. Lady C. particularly is much

hurt at what has passed. She has not seen Huskisson, but he is

aware of her sentiments, though he says she has so high an

opinion of him that she is sure he is acting for what he believes

to be the best. The majority of Canning's friends have adhered to

the Government. The great body of the Whigs who belonged to or

supported the late Government are indignant and violent,

particularly with Huskisson, who they think has betrayed them. An

interview has taken place between Huskisson and Lord Lansdowne,

in which the former explained his conduct, and (as far as I can

learn) the latter said but little, neither condemning nor

approving. But the great body of the party are resolved to oppose

the new Government in every way, though without attempting to

form a party, which they do not think feasible in their present

condition. They intend a desultory and harassing warfare,

particularly attacking Huskisson upon Liberal measures, to which

he stands pledged, but which they think he will now be prevented

by his colleagues from carrying into effect. The seceding Whigs

are triumphant, because they assert that what has happened is a

full justification of their conduct. They forget, however, that

all this is mainly attributable to them and to Canning's death,

which occurred in the interim. On the other hand the old Tories

are not altogether satisfied, and, though rejoiced at the

restoration of the party, cannot bear to see Huskisson and his

friends members of the Government from abhorrence of Canning and

all Liberal principles. However, the principal men have sent in

their adhesions in very civil letters to the Duke.

[1] [The Duke of Wellington's Administration was at first

constituted as follows:--

Duke of Wellington, First Lord of the Treasury.

Lord Lyndhurst, Lord Chancellor.

Earl Bathurst, Lord President of the Council.

Earl of Ellenborough, Lord Privy Seal.

Mr. Peel, Home Secretary.

Lord Dudley, Foreign Secretary.

Mr. Huskisson, Colonial Secretary.

Earl of Aberdeen, Duchy of Lancaster.

Mr. Goulburn, Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Mr. Charles Grant, President of the Board of Trade.

Mr. Herries, Master of the Mint.

Viscount Melville, President of the India Board.

Lord Dudley, Mr. Huskisson, Mr. Grant, and Lord

Palmerston (Secretary at War, not in the Cabinet)

were the four Canningite members who resigned in

May following. They were replaced by Lord

Aberdeen, Sir George Murray, Mr. Vesey Fitzgerald,

and Sir Henry Hardinge respectively.]

All the Ministers (old and new) were at Windsor the other day;

but it was contrived that they should not meet, the _ins_ being

in one room and Lansdowne and Carlisle in another, and it was

afterwards discovered that in a third room by himself was

Goderich. This Lord Sefton told me, and he had it from Lord

Lansdowne, who had it from the King and confirmed by Lord

Conyngham. His Majesty was remarkably civil to Lords Lansdowne

and Carlisle. The King had a scene with the Duke of Devonshire,

whom he could not persuade to stay in his place, though he tried

hard. Scarlett has resigned the Attorney-Generalship, but not

very willingly. He wrote to Milton and asked his advice. Milton

advised him to resign, and so he did. One thing that has angered

the Tories is the Duke's not having consulted Lord Eldon, nor

offered him any place; and it seems he is extremely mortified,

for though he did not want the seals again, he would have been

very glad to take office as President of the Council.

[Page Head: IRRITATION OF THE WHIGS.]

February 25th, 1828 {p.126}

There is one advantage in writing at intervals of some time

instead of keeping a regular diary; I can take a more bird's-eye

view of events, and avoid falling into many errors, which it

would be afterwards necessary to correct. I went to Newmarket and

stayed there three weeks for my health. While I was there

Huskisson made his speech at Liverpool.[2] The Tories were

furious, and in the House of Lords the Duke of Wellington

contradicted it, or rather said he did not believe it was

faithfully reported, for all that he was reported to have said

about _the guarantee_ was untrue. I returned to town in time for

the House of Commons, and found the greatest excitement,

curiosity, and violence generally prevailing. As to Huskisson, he

had offended the Tories, the Whigs, and Lady Canning, and

everybody condemned him. Parties were split to pieces, there was

no Opposition, and no man could tell what were the politics of

his neighbour, scarcely what his own. Lady Canning was in a state

of great rage and resentment, and had inspired George Bentinck

with the same sentiments. Clanricarde had been sent down by her

to the House of Lords furnished with extracts of Canning's

letters to throw in the teeth of his old friends and his old

enemies, and she threatened fresh disclosures and fresh documents

which were to confound all whom she deemed worthy of her

indignation. A very angry colloquy took place at a dinner at

Warrender's between Lord Seaford and George Bentinck, in which

the latter violently attacked Mr. Canning's friends for joining

the present Government, and quoted Huskisson's declaration that

he would never act with the men who had abandoned him. Lord

Seaford grew angry, and asked George what he knew of that

declaration and what his authority was for quoting it. To which

George replied that he had it from himself--from Lord Seaford at

Paris. This confounded the noble Lord, and altogether there was a

pretty violent altercation, which greatly annoyed both him and

Howard, who was present, and was regretted by all their common

friends. Two days after this came on the debate in the House of

Commons and the explanations of Huskisson and Herries. Their

speeches were both satisfactory enough till Tierney spoke, who

entirely knocked over their cases, or at least that of Herries,

for against Huskisson he proved nothing, except that he might

perhaps have been more communicative, though I think this

reproach applies more to Lord Goderich than to him. The

impression left with regard to Herries was as unfavourable as

possible.

[2] [The speech made by Mr. Huskisson on his re-election at

Liverpool on the 5th of February, 1828, is printed in

vol. iii. of his 'Collected Speeches,' p. 673. It

contains a full account of these transactions. The

passage which gave so much offence to the Tories was

that 'if the Government was such as satisfied the view

I took of the interests of the country, and provided

such arrangements were made in its construction _as

afforded a guarantee_ that the principle I approved

should not be departed from, I was not precluded from

joining it;' and again, 'The presence in office of such

men as Lord Dudley, Lord Palmerston, Mr. Grant, and Mr.

Lamb is the most satisfactory of all guarantees that

the general principles of our foreign and commercial

system would remain unchanged, and that Ireland would

be governed with the strictest impartiality in respect

to the Catholic question.'

These declarations of Mr. Huskisson had a material

effect on the occurrences which not long afterwards

took place.]

[Page Head: TOM DUNCOMBE'S MAIDEN SPEECH.]

The great event of the night was Duncombe's[3] speech, which was

delivered with perfect self-possession and composure, but in so

ridiculous a manner that everybody laughed at him, although they

were amused with his impudence and at the style and objects of

his attack. However, the next day it was discovered that he

had performed a great exploit; he was loudly applauded and

congratulated on all sides, and made into the hero of the day.

His fame was infinitely increased on a subsequent night, when

Herries again came before the House and when Tommy fired another

shot at him. The newspapers were full of his praises. The Whigs

called at his door and eagerly sought his acquaintance. Those who

love fun and personality cheered him on with loud applause, and

he now fancies himself the greatest man going, and is ready to

get up and abuse anybody on the Treasury bench. To me, who knew

all the secret strings that moved this puppet, nothing can be

more amusing.

[3] [Thomas Slingsby Duncombe, nephew of the first Lord

Feversham distinguished for his Radical opinions, M.P.

for Finsbury after the Reform Bill. He sat at this time

for Hertford; and the incident related in the text

appears to have been his _début_ in political life.]

The history of Tom Duncombe and his speech is instructive as well

as amusing, for it is a curious proof of the facility with which

the world may be deceived, and of the prodigious effect which may

be produced by the smallest means, if they are aided by some

fortuitous circumstances and happily applied. Tommy came to Henry

de Ros and told him that his constituents at Hertford were very

anxious he should make a speech, but that he did not know what to

say, and begged Henry to supply him with the necessary materials.

He advised him to strike out something new, and having received

his assurance that he should be able to recollect anything that

he learned by heart, and that he was not afraid of his courage

failing, Henry composed for him the speech which Duncombe

delivered. But knowing the slender capacity of his man, he was

not satisfied with placing the speech in his hands, but adopted

every precaution which his ingenuity suggested to avert the

danger of his breaking down. He made him learn the speech by

heart, and then made him think it over again and put it into

language of his own, justly fearing that if he should forget any

of the more polished periods of the original it would appear

sadly botched by his own interpolations. He then instructed him

largely as to how and when he was to bring it in, supplying him

with various commonplace phrases to be used as connecting links,

and by the help of which he might be enabled to fasten upon some

of the preceding speeches. I saw Henry de Ros the day before the

debate, when he told me what he was doing, and asked me to

suggest anything that occurred upon the subject, and at the same

time repeated to me the speech with which he had armed his hero.

I hinted my apprehensions that he would fail in the delivery, but

though he was not without some alarm, he expressed (as it

afterwards appeared a well-grounded) confidence in Duncombe's

extraordinary nerve and intrepidity.

His speech on the second night was got up precisely in the same

manner, and although it appeared to arise out of the debate and

of those which preceded it, the matter had been all crammed into

him by his invisible Mentor. The amusement to him and to me

(especially at the honours that have been thickly poured upon him

and the noise which he has made in the world) is indescribably

pungent.

Thus Duncombe and his speech have made what is called a great

sensation, and he has the reputation (no matter whether justly or

not) of having thrown the enemy's camp into greater confusion by

the boldness of his language than anybody has ever done, because

nobody has ever before dared to mention those whom he dragged

forward. To the ignorant majority of the world he appears a man

of great promise, of boldness, quickness, and decision, and the

uproar that is made about him cannot fail to impress others as

well as himself with a high notion of his consequence.

Knighton is gone abroad, I have very little doubt, in consequence

of what passed, and as nobody enquires very minutely into the

real causes of things where they get apparent ones with ease, it

is said and believed at once that Duncombe is the man who has

driven him out, and that he has given the first blow to that

secret influence which has only been obscurely hinted at before

and never openly attacked. These are great and important matters,

far exceeding any consequences which the authors of the speech

anticipated from its delivery at the time. And what are the

agents who have produced such an effect? A man of ruined fortune

and doubtful character, whose life has been spent on the

race-course, at the gaming-table, and in the green-room, of

limited capacity, exceedingly ignorant, and without any stock

but his impudence to trade on, only speaking to serve an

electioneering purpose, and crammed by another man with every

thought and every word that he uttered.

[Page Head: DISPUTES IN THE CABINET.]

June 12th, 1828 {p.130}

We have now got a Tory Government, and all that remained of

Canning's party are gone.[4] The case of the Duke of Wellington

and Huskisson is before the world, but nobody judges fairly.

Motives are attributed to both parties which had no existence,

and the truth is hardly ever told at first, though it generally

oozes out by degrees. After the explanations in February the

Government went on to all appearance very well, but there lurked

under this semblance of harmony some seeds of jealousy and

distrust, not I believe so much in the mind of the Duke as in

those of his Tory colleagues, and the Canningites on their side

certainly felt no cordiality even towards the Duke himself. They

said that he never could nor would understand anything; that he

said a thing one day and forgot it the next, and instead of that

clearness of intellect for which he had credit, nothing could be

more puzzled and confused than he was; that nothing could absolve

him from the suspicion of duplicity and insincerity but the

conviction that his ambiguous conduct on various occasions arose

from a confusion of ideas. On the other hand, Lord Bathurst told

my father that he thought they (Huskisson and his friends) were

too much disposed to act together as a party in the Cabinet; and

it is clear that the Duke thought so too, and that this feeling

and the resentment it engendered in his mind are the real reasons

of his conduct on the late occasion.

[4] [Bills had been brought into Parliament for the

disfranchisement of the boroughs of Penryn and East

Retford, and the transfer of those seats to Manchester

and Birmingham. On the East Retford case, which came

before the House of Commons on the 19th of May, Mr.

Huskisson felt bound in honour to support the measure,

and voted against his colleagues. On his return home

after the debate he wrote a hasty letter to the Duke of

Wellington, in which he said that he 'owed it to the

Duke and to Mr. Peel to lose no time in affording them

an opportunity of placing his office in other hands.'

The Duke regarding this as a formal act of resignation,

laid it before the King and filled up the appointment.

The correspondence is published in the Duke of

Wellington's 'Correspondence,' New Series, vol. iv.

p. 449. The resignation of Lord Palmerston, Charles

Grant, and Lord Dudley followed. The details of this

transaction are sufficiently alluded to in the text.]

There had been a dispute in the Cabinet about the Corn Bill,

which occasioned the discussion of it to be put off for a few

days at the time, and upon that occasion Grant resigned his

office. The matter was made up and he stayed. But when upon

the East Retford affair Huskisson resigned, and in such an

extraordinary manner, the Duke felt that there was a disposition

to embarrass him by these perpetual tenders of resignation, which

he believed they thought he would not venture to accept. Upon

receiving Huskisson's letter he went to Lord Bathurst and

consulted him, and Lord Bathurst advised him to take him at his

word. Everybody looks for some cause which does not appear for

important events, and people with difficulty admit of very simple

solutions and very trifling causes, though such are not

unfrequently the real ones. I believe that Huskisson had no

intention of embarrassing the Duke and none of resigning; but for

a cool and sensible man his conduct is most extraordinary, for he

acted with the precipitation of a schoolboy and showed a complete

want of all those qualities of prudence and calm deliberation for

which he has the greatest credit. But though this breach might

have been avoided, from the sentiments which have been expressed

by both parties, it is evident other differences would have

arisen which must have dissolved the Government before long.

After putting aside the violent opinions on both sides, the

conclusion is that Huskisson acted very hastily and imprudently,

and that his letter (say what he will) was a complete resignation,

and that the Duke had a right so to consider it; that in the

Duke's conduct there appeared a want of courtesy and an anxiety

to get rid of him which it would have been more fair to avow and

defend than to deny; that on both sides there was a mixture of

obstinacy and angry feeling, and a disposition to treat the

question rather as a personal matter than one in which the public

interests were deeply concerned. But the charge which is made on

one side that Huskisson wanted to embarrass the Duke's Government

and enhance his own importance, and that on the other of the

Duke's insincerity, are both unfounded.

Some circumstances, however, contributed to place the Duke's

conduct in an unfavourable point of view. These were the

extravagant and unconcealed joy of the High Tories and of his

immediate friends, and his attending at the same time the Pitt

dinner and sitting there while Lord Eldon gave his famous 'one

cheer more' for Protestant ascendency. That he treated Huskisson

with some degree of harshness there is no doubt, but he was

angry, and not without reason; the former brought it all upon

himself. During the debate upon East Retford, when Huskisson was

called upon by Sandon to redeem his pledge, he told Peel that he

could not help himself, and must vote against him; but he begged

him to put off the question till the following week, that it

might be considered again. This Peel refused; had he acceded, all

this would not have taken place.

When the King saw Huskisson he was extremely gracious to him,

expressed the utmost regret at losing him, and said that he had

wished not to see him at first, that he might avoid receiving his

resignation, and in hopes that the matter would have been

arranged.[5] However, the other party say that the King is very

glad to have got rid of him and his party.

[5] [Huskisson solicited an audience, which his Majesty

refused for some days to grant: he would not see him

until he had written again to the Duke of Wellington.]

In the middle of all this Madame de Lieven is supposed to have

acted with great impertinence if not imprudence, and to have made

use of the access she has to the King to say all sorts of things

against the Duke and the present Government. Her dislike to the

Duke has been increasing ever since that cessation of intimacy

which was caused by Canning's accession to power, when she

treated him very uncivilly in order to pay court to Canning.

Esterhazy told me last night that although her position here was

now greatly changed, and that it was far from being so agreeable

as it was, he could not accuse her of imprudence in having taken

the part she had done, because he thought that it had answered

very well, and that the objects of her Court had been in great

measure accomplished through her means.

[Page Head: THE CATHOLIC QUESTION.]

June 18th, 1828

The Duke of Wellington's speech on the Catholic question is

considered by many to have been so moderate as to indicate a

disposition on his part to concede emancipation, and bets have

been laid that Catholics will sit in Parliament next year. Many

men are resolved to see it in this light who are anxious to join

his Government, and whose scruples with regard to that question

are removed by such an interpretation of his speech. I do not

believe he means to do anything until he is compelled to it,

which if he remains in office he will be; for the success of the

Catholic question depends neither on Whigs nor Tories, the former

of whom have not the power and the latter not the inclination to

carry it. The march of time and the state of Ireland will effect

it in spite of everything, and its slow but continual advance can

neither be retarded by its enemies nor accelerated by its

friends. In the meantime men affect to consider his expressions

as of importance enough to influence their conduct in taking or

refusing office. Frankland Lewis,[6] who refused the Irish

Secretaryship, said that after that speech he regretted his

refusal and would be glad to take it, and now he wants to join

the Government again. Certainly at this moment the Tories are

triumphant, and so far from the Duke's Government having any

difficulty in standing, there does not appear to be a disposition

in any quarter to oppose it. Not only in Parliament there is no

Opposition, but the press is veering round and treating him with

great civility. The Government seem well disposed to follow up

the Liberal policy, to which they have been suspected of being

adverse, and have already declared that they do not intend to

deviate either in their foreign or domestic policy from the

principles on which the Government was understood to act previous

to the separation. Arbuthnot told my father yesterday that they

all regret now having resigned in 1827, and Huskisson owned to A.

that he had acted with unfortunate precipitancy.

[6] [Right Hon. T. Frankland Lewis, a member of the

Grenville and Canning section of the Tory party; made a

baronet by Sir Robert Peel; the father of the Right

Hon. Sir George Cornewall Lewis.]

June 29th, 1828 {p.134}

I dined yesterday with the King at St. James's--his Jockey Club

dinner. There were about thirty people, several not being invited

whom he did not fancy. The Duke of Leeds told me a much greater

list had been made out, but he had scratched several out of it.

We assembled in the Throne Room, and found him already there,

looking very well and walking about. He soon, however, sat down,

and desired everybody else to do so. Nobody spoke, and he laughed

and said, 'This is more like a Quaker than a Jockey Club

meeting.' We soon went to dinner, which was in the Great Supper

Room and very magnificent. He sat in the middle, with the Dukes

of Richmond and Grafton on each side of him. I sat opposite to

him, and he was particularly gracious to me, talking to me across

the table and recommending all the good things; he made me (after

eating a quantity of turtle) eat a dish of crawfish soup, till I

thought I should have burst. After dinner the Duke of Leeds, who

sat at the head of the table, gave 'The King.' We all stood up,

when his Majesty thanked us, and said he hoped this would be the

first of annual meetings of the sort to take place, there or

elsewhere under his roof. He then ordered paper, pens, &c., and

they began making matches and stakes; the most perfect ease was

established, just as much as if we had been dining with the Duke

of York, and he seemed delighted. He made one or two little

speeches, one recommending that a stop should be put to the

exportation of horses. He twice gave 'The Turf,' and at the end

the Duke of Richmond asked his leave to give a toast, and again

gave 'The King.' He thanked all the gentlemen, and said that

there was no man who had the interests of the turf more at heart

than himself, that he was delighted at having this party, and

that the oftener they met the better, and he only wanted to have

it pointed out to him how he could promote the pleasure and

amusement of the turf, and he was ready to do anything in his

power. He got up at half-past twelve and wished us good night.

Nothing could go off better, and Mount Charles told me he was

sure he was delighted.

[Page Head: LORD LYNDHURST AND THE GREAT SEAL.]

I dined with the Chancellor [Lord Lyndhurst] three days ago; he

talked to me a great deal about his acceptance of the Great Seal

and of the speculation it was. He was Master of the Rolls with

£7,000 a year for life when it was offered to him; he debated

whether it was worth while to give this up to be Chancellor for

perhaps only one year, with a peerage and the pension. He talked

the matter over with his wife, and they agreed that if it only

lasted one year (which he evidently thought probable) it was

worth while, besides the contingency of a long Chancellorship. He

asked me if the Government was popular and reckoned strong. I

told him it was apparently popular and reckoned strong, because

there was no Opposition and little chance of any. I said that

however hazardous his speculation might have been, it had turned

out well, for he had a good chance of being Chancellor as long as

his predecessor had been, there being so few candidates for the

office. He said this was true, and then he talked of his Court,

and said it was impossible for one man to do the business of it.

In talking of the speculation he had made, political opinions and

political consistency seemed never to occur to him, and he

considered the whole matter in a light so business-like and

professional as to be quite amusing. He talked of the Duke, said

he was a good man to do business with, quick and intelligent, and

'how well he managed that little correspondence with Huskisson,'

which was droll enough, for Huskisson dined there and was in the

room.

[Page Head: SIR ROBERT ADAIR'S ANECDOTES.]

August 6th, 1828 {p.136}

About three weeks ago I went to Windsor to a Council. The King

had been very ill for a day or two, but was recovered. Rob

Adair[7] was sworn in Privy Councillor, and he remained in the

room and heard the speech, which he ought not to have done. The

Duke attacked me afterwards (in joke) for letting him stay; but I

told him it was no business of mine, and his neighbour ought to

have told him to go. That neighbour, however, was Vesey

Fitzgerald, who said it was the first time he had attended a

Council, and he could not begin by turning another man out. I

brought Adair back to town, and he told me a great many things

about Burke, and Fox, and Fitzpatrick, and all the eminent men of

that time with whom he lived when he was young. He said what I

have often heard before, that Fitzpatrick was the most agreeable

of them all, but Hare the most brilliant. Burke's conversation

was delightful, so luminous and instructive. He was very

passionate, and Adair said that the first time he ever saw him he

unluckily asked him some question about the wild parts of

Ireland, when Burke broke out, 'You are a fool and a blockhead;

there are no wild parts in Ireland.' He was extremely terrified,

but afterwards Burke was very civil to him, and he knew him very

well.

[7] [Right Hon. Sir Robert Adair, the friend of Fox,

formerly ambassador at Constantinople and Vienna. It

was he whom Canning once called 'Bobadare-a-dool-fowla.']

He told me a great deal about the quarrel between Fox and Burke.

Fox never ceased to entertain a regard for Burke, and at no time

would suffer him to be abused in his presence. There was an

attempt made to bring about a reconciliation, and a meeting for

that purpose took place of all the leading men at Burlington

House. Burke was on the point of yielding when his son suddenly

made his appearance unbidden, and on being told what was going on

said, 'My father shall be no party to such a compromise,' took

Burke aside and persuaded him to reject the overtures. That

son Adair described as the most disagreeable, violent, and

wrong-headed of men, but the idol of his father, who used to say

that he united all his own talents and acquirements with those of

Fox and everybody else. After the death of Richard Burke, Fox and

Burke met behind the throne of the House of Lords one day, when

Fox went up to Burke and put out both his hands to him. Burke was

almost surprised into meeting this cordiality in the same spirit,

but the momentary impulse passed away, and he doggedly dropped

his hands and left the House.

Adair told me that Lord Holland has written very copious memoirs

of his own time, and particularly characters of all the eminent

men who have died, in the delineation of which he excels. Soon

after Pitt's resignation in 1801 there was an attempt made to

effect a junction between Pitt and Fox, to which they were

neither of them averse. The negotiation was, however, entrusted

to subordinate agents, and Adair said that he had always

regretted that they had not met, for if they had he thought the

matter would have been arranged. As it was the design was

thwarted by the King through the intervention (I think he said)

of Lord Loughborough.

There was another Council about a week ago. On these occasions

the King always whispers to me something or other about his

racehorses or something about myself, and I am at this moment in

high favour. We had Howley and Bloomfield[8] at this Council,

with the latter of whom I made acquaintance, to the great

amusement of the Duke. He laughed at seeing me conversing with

this bishop.

[8] [The Archbishop of Canterbury and the Bishop of

London.]

I hear from Frederick Lamb that the Duke is greatly alarmed about

Ireland. By-the-by he, Frederick,[9] is come back from Portugal,

thinking that our Government have acted very ill and very

foolishly, first encouraging and then abandoning these wretched

Constitutionalists to their fate, and he is no particular friend

to Liberalism.

[9] [Sir Frederick Lamb, afterwards created Lord Beauvale,

and who became Lord Melbourne on the death of his

brother William.]

August 14th, 1828 {p.137}

Just returned from Goodwood, where I went on the 11th, and heard

on arriving that the Lord High Admiral had resigned, but no

particulars. It is a very good thing at all events.

August 16th, 1828 {p.138}

The Lord High Admiral was turned out.[10] The Duke told him that

he must go, but that he might resign as if of his own accord. The

Duke is all-powerful. It is strongly reported that Peel will

resign, that the Duke means to concede the Catholic question and

to negotiate a _concordat_ with the Pope. Many people think Lord

Grey will join the Government, and that he will be First Lord of

the Admiralty. The Duke gave his brother Dr. Bloomfield's living

without any solicitation. Esterhazy told me to-night that

Palmella entertains from twenty to thirty of his countrymen at

dinner every day, of whom there are several hundred in London, of

the best families, totally destitute. All Palmella's property is

sequestrated, but he receives the appointment of Portuguese

Minister from the Brazilian Government.

[10] [The King's letter dismissing the Duke of Clarence from

the office of Lord High Admiral was dated the 11th of

August, 1828. It is published in the Duke of

Wellington's 'Correspondence,' New Series, vol. iv.

p. 595.]

[Page Head: DAWSON'S SPEECH AT DERRY.]

August 22nd, 1828 {p.138}

Went to Stoke on the 19th and came back yesterday. There were the

Dowager Lady Salisbury, Duchess of Newcastle, Worcester and Lady

W. Russell, Giles, Billy Churchill. On the 18th Dawson's

speech[11] at Derry reached us, and I never remember any

occurrence which excited greater surprise. The general impression

was that he made the speech, with the Duke's knowledge and

concurrence, which I never believed. I thought from what he said

to me just before he went to Ireland that he had changed his own

opinion, and now many people say they knew this; but I was little

prepared to hear of his making such a speech at such a place as

Derry, and on such an occasion as a 'Prentice Boy' commemoration.

The rage and fury of the Orangemen there and of the Orange press

here are boundless, and the violence and scurrility of their

abuse are the more absurd because Dawson only described in

glowing colours, and certainly without reserve, the actual state

of Ireland, but did not argue the question at all further than

leaving on his hearers the inevitable inference that he thought

the time for granting emancipation was come. The truth is that

the conversion of one of the most violent anti-Catholics must

strike everybody as a strong argument in favour of the measure,

and they know not by how many and by whom his example may be

followed. The Orangemen are moving heaven and earth to create

disturbances, and their impotent fury shows how low their cause

is sunk. The Catholics, on the contrary, are temperate and calm,

from confidence in their strength and the progressive advance of

their course. But although I think the Catholics are now in a

position which renders their ultimate success certain, I am very

far from participating in the sanguine expectations of those who

think the Duke of Wellington is convinced that the question must

be settled directly, and that he will carry it through in the

ensuing session. In the first place I see clearly that the

Government are extremely annoyed at Dawson's speech. I saw

Goulburn to-day, and though he did not say much, what he did say

was enough to satisfy me of this: 'he hoped that it had been

incorrectly reported.' Dawson has written to the Duke,[12] and

the letter was sent to him to-day. But what has put me in despair

about it is a letter of the Duke's which Drummond read to me

to-day addressed, I do not know to whom, but upon that subject.

It began, 'My dear sir,' and after other matter proceeded nearly

as follows:--'This subject has been more discussed and more

pamphlets have been written upon it in the course of the last

twenty-five years than any other that I can remember. No two

people are agreed upon what ought to be done, and yet the

Government is expected at once to settle the question.' This is

the old argument, as if after thirty years' discussion in every

shape it was not time to settle the question. As if those who

undertake to govern the country were not the men who are bound to

find the means of settling it and allaying the irritation it

causes. And as if, instead of no two persons being agreed upon

the subject, all the ablest and wisest men in the country were

not cordially agreed that complete emancipation is the only

remedy for the evils that exist, and that they are opposed by the

most despicable faction which ever existed, animated by the most

base and sordid motives. This letter was read to me as conveying

the Duke's opinions, which his secretary thought were very sound

and sensible, and which I think evinced a degree of anility quite

pitiable, and proves how little there is to expect from any

liberality and good sense on his part.

[11] [Mr. Peel's confidential letter to the Duke of

Wellington, stating his reluctant conviction that it

was indispensably necessary for the Government to

change its policy on the Catholic question, was written

on the 11th of August, 1828. The letter is published in

Sir Robert Peel's 'Posthumous Memoirs,' vol. i, p. 189.

It is a remarkable circumstance that Mr. Dawson's

speech at Derry was made _just one week afterwards_;

but there is no evidence that he knew of the change in

his brother-in-law's opinion. See for further details

as to the effect of Dawson's speech _infra_.]

[12] [This letter is published in the Duke of Wellington's

'Correspondence,' New Series, vol. iv. p. 633. The Duke

said, 'Dawson's speech is too bad. Surely a man who

does such things ought to be put in a strait

waistcoat.' _Ibid._ p. 636.]

[Page Head: DISMISSAL OF THE LORD HIGH ADMIRAL.]

I do not yet know the whole truth of the Lord High Admiral's

resignation, but it seems that it is not yet certain. Negotiations

on the subject are still going on. I believe he quarrelled with

his council, particularly Cockburn, and that Government took part

with Cockburn. The Duke of Clarence wants to promote deserving

officers, but they oppose it on account of the expense, and they

find in everything great difficulty in keeping him in order. His

resignation will be very unpopular in the navy, for his system of

promotion was more liberal and impartial than that of his

predecessor, whose administration was one perpetual job, and who

made the patronage of the Admiralty instrumental to governing

Scotland. Hitherto the appointments of Government have not been

the most judicious--Lord Belmore to Jamaica, because he is a

Lord, and a very dull one; Lord Strangford to the Brazils, though

the Duke knows as well as anybody that he cannot be trusted, and

was recalled by Canning because he said and did all sorts of

things at Constantinople for which he had no authority, and they

found that no reliance whatever was to be placed in him. Lord

Stuart de Rothesay, too, is sent back to Paris, though personally

obnoxious to the King and universally disliked.

Stoke, August 25th, 1828 {p.141}

Went to Windsor to-day for a Council and came on here after it.

There were the Chancellor, Peel, Fitzgerald, Ellenborough, Sir G.

Murray, the Archbishop, and Bishop of London, who came to do

homage. The King gave the Chancellor a long audience, and another

to Peel, probably to talk over Dawson's speech and Orange

politics. After the Council the King called me and talked to me

about racehorses, which he cares more about than the welfare of

Ireland or the peace of Europe. We walked over the Castle, which

is nearly finished, but too gaudy. The King told me he would go

to Egham races to-morrow. I talked to Fitzgerald about Dawson's

speech. He said he believed Dawson had never told the Duke or

Peel what he meant to do, that he thought he was very bold and

imprudent. However, he was glad of it, as it must assist the

cause, and the moral effect in Ireland would be produced before

the Duke's sentiments could be known. Lord Mount Charles told me

the day before yesterday that the reason the Duke of Clarence had

resigned was, that he had in many instances exceeded his powers,

which had produced remonstrances from the Duke of Wellington,

whereupon the Duke of Clarence tendered his resignation, and the

Duke immediately carried it to the King without asking him to

stay.[13] Afterwards there were some negotiations, when the Duke

of Clarence refused to stay if Cockburn did. They would not,

however, part with Cockburn, but subsequently the Duke shook

hands with him and asked him to dine at Bushy on his birthday. He

said that his successor was not appointed, but it will probably

be Lord Melville. The King has not been well; he goes fishing and

dining at Virginia Water, stays out late, and catches cold.

[13] [A letter from the Duke of Wellington to Sir Robert

Peel, dated the 13th of August, 1828, explains the

circumstances that led to the removal of the Duke of

Clarence from the office of Lord High Admiral. This

letter is published in the first volume of Sir Robert

Peel's 'Posthumous Memoirs on the Catholic Question and

the Repeal of the Corn Laws,' p. 269. The Duke of

Wellington says, 'He behaved very rudely to Cockburn. I

saw Cockburn and Croker, and both agreed in stating

that the machine could no longer work.' In a subsequent

letter the Duke added, 'I quite agree with you that it

is very unfortunate the Duke of Clarence has resigned.

I did everything in my power to avoid that result,

excepting give up Cockburn.' The whole correspondence

is published in the fourth volume of the Duke's

'Correspondence,' New Series.]

August 29th, 1828 {p.142}

Came from Stoke last night. There were the Lievens, Cowper, Lord

Melbourne, Luttrell, Pierre d'Aremberg, Creevy, Russell,

Montrond. The King went to Egham races Tuesday and Thursday, was

very well received and pleased. He was very gracious to me.

Madame de Lieven went over to the Lodge to see Lady Conyngham,

who finding she had never seen Clifden, carried her off there,

ordered luncheon and the pony carriage, took her all over the

place, and then carried her back to Salthill, where the King's

carriage met her and took her back to Virginia Water to dinner.

Lieven told me they had never expected to find this Turkish

expedition an easy business, and had always been prepared for

great difficulties, &c., from which I conclude that they have met

with some check. I met Bachelor, the poor Duke of York's old

servant, and now the King's _valet de chambre_, and he told me

some curious things about the interior of the Palace; but he is

coming to call on me, and I will write down what he tells me

then. There is a report that the Admiralty has been offered to

Lord Melbourne. I asked him (at Stoke), and he said he had never

heard of it.

London, November 25th, 1828 {p.142}

I have not written anything since I left town, because nothing

occurred worth remembering. Yesterday I went to the Council at

Windsor. Most of the Ministers were there, the Recorder, two

foreign Ministers, and the Duke of Clarence. The King seemed to

be very well. The Duke of Wellington did not arrive till late,

and before he was come the King sent for Peel and gave him an

audience of two hours at least. I thought there must be something

in the wind, and was struck with Peel's taking the Duke into one

of the window recesses and talking to him very earnestly as soon

as he came out. I returned to town after the Council, and in the

evening went to the play, and coming out I met Henry de Ros and

Frederick Lamb. The former made me go with him in his carriage,

when he told me what fully explained the cause of Peel's long

audience--that the Duke has at last made up his mind to carry the

Catholic question, and that Peel[14] and the rest of the violent

anti-Catholics are going out; that the Duke's present idea is to

apply to Huskisson, but that nothing will be done or said till

the Ministers assemble in town and hold their cabinets.

[14] [It had not then transpired, nor was it known until

long afterwards, that the proposal to carry Catholic

Emancipation was made by Mr. Peel to the Duke of

Wellington on the 11th of August. Sir Robert Peel

states, however, in his 'Memoir,' p. 269, 'At the close

of the year 1828 little, if any, progress had been made

in removing the difficulties with which the Duke of

Wellington had to contend;' and, p. 274, 'The chief

difficulty was the King. At the commencement of the

month of January 1829 his Majesty had not yet signified

his consent that the whole subject of Ireland,

including the Catholic question, should be taken into

consideration by his confidential servants.']

He told me also that the French Government have at last agreed to

make common cause with us in preventing the Russians from

prosecuting the war against Turkey.

[Page Head: HEALTH AND HABITS OF GEORGE IV.]

December 16th, 1828 {p.143}

A Council at Windsor yesterday; very few present, and no

audiences but Aberdeen for three-quarters of an hour and the Duke

for five minutes. I sent for Bachelor and had a long talk with

him. He said the King was well, but weak, his constitution very

strong, no malady about him, but irritation in the bladder which

he could not get rid of. He thinks the hot rooms and want of air

and exercise do him harm, and that he is getting every day more

averse to exercise and more prone to retirement, which, besides

that it weakens his constitution, is a proof that he is beginning

to break. Bachelor thinks he is in no sort of danger; I think he

will not live more than two years. He says that his attendants

are quite worn out with being always about him, and living in

such hot rooms (which obliges them to drink) and seldom getting

air and exercise. B. is at present well, but he sits up every

other night with the King and never leaves him. He is in high

favour, and Sir William Knighton is now as civil and obliging to

him as he used to be the reverse. The King instructs him in his

duties in the kindest manner, likes to have him about him, and

talks a great deal to him. But his Majesty keeps everybody at a

great distance from him, and all about him are afraid of him,

though he talks to his pages with more openness and familiarity

than to anybody. He thinks Radford (who is dying) is not in such

favour as he was, though he is always there; of O'Reilly the

surgeon, who sees the King every day and carries him all the

gossip he can pick up, Bachelor speaks with very little ceremony.

The King told them the other day that 'O'R. was the damnedest

liar in the world,' and it seems he is often in the habit of

discussing people in this way to his _valets de chambre_. He

reads a great deal, and every morning has his boxes brought to

him and reads their contents. They are brought up by Knighton or

Watson, both of whom have keys of all the boxes. He says there is

not one person about him whom he likes--Mount Charles pretty

well, Taylor better than anybody, Knighton constantly there and

his influence unbounded; he thinks K. can do anything.

[Page Head: CHARACTER OF O'CONNELL.]

December 20th, 1828 {p.144}

Hyde Villiers called on me ten days ago to give me an account of

his visit to Ireland. He seems to have been intimate with several

of the leading men, particularly Shiel, whom all agree in

describing as the cleverest man of his party. He also saw a good

deal of the Lord-Lieutenant;[15] and was struck by his imprudence

and unreserve. He spoke very positively of his determination not

to be a party to any measures contrary to his opinions, and did

not scruple to complain of the little information he received

from the Government here concerning their intentions. He also

appears to have been flattered by O'Connell into entire

confidence in him, and told Villiers that he would trust him

implicitly. O'Connell and Shiel detest each other, though Shiel

does not oppose him. Lawless detests him too, and he does

everything he can to thwart and provoke him, and opposes him in

the Association[16] upon all occasions. Lately in the affair of

the 'exclusive dealing' he met with such opposition in the

Association that it required a great deal of time and management

to get rid of that proposition, although in the end he carried

the matter very triumphantly. But O'Connell, though opposed by a

numerous party in the Association, is all-powerful in the

country, and there is not one individual who has a chance of

supplanting him in the affections of the great mass of the

Catholics. For twenty-five years he has been continually

labouring to obtain that authority and consideration which he

possesses without a rival, and is now so great that they yield

unlimited obedience to his individual will. As an orator he would

probably fail in the English House of Commons; but to a mob,

especially an Irish mob, he is perfect, exactly the style and

manner which suits their tastes and comprehensions, and

consequently his success with them is unbounded. He has a large

landed property, is at the head of his profession, an admirable

lawyer and manager of a cause, and never for a moment diverted by

political or other considerations from the due discharge of his

professional duties. He is besides a man of high moral character

and great probity in private life, and has been for years in the

habit of affording his professional assistance gratis to those of

his own religion who cannot afford to pay for it. These are some

of the grounds of his popularity, to which may be added his

industry and devotion to the Roman Catholic cause; he rises at

three every morning and goes to bed at eight. He possesses a very

retentive memory, and is particularly strong in historical and

constitutional knowledge. The great object of his ambition is to

be at the head of his own profession, and his favourite project

to reform the laws, a task for which he fancies himself eminently

qualified. To accomplish any particular object he cares not to

what charges of partial inconsistency he exposes himself,

trusting to his own ingenuity to exonerate himself from them

afterwards. Neither O'Connell nor Shiel are supposed to be men of

courage, but Lawless is, and he is thought capable of the most

desperate adventures. Shiel is of opinion that the Association

might be suppressed by law; O'Connell thinks it could not, and

that if it might legally it could not practically. O'Connell says

he can keep the country quiet another year certainly, Doyle

thinks not. Doyle is a very able man, a man of the world,

dislikes O'Connell, but is obliged to act in concert with him.

Doyle, conscious of his own talents, is deeply mortified that no

field is open for their display, and he is one of those men who

must be eminent in whatever cause they are engaged. Murray[17] is

a clever man, but not so ambitious as Doyle; Francis Leveson

is extremely cautious, cold in his manners, and therefore

conciliates no general regard in Ireland, where they like an

exactly opposite character. William Lamb was popular beyond all

precedent, but Francis seems to have avoided giving offence to

either party, which is perhaps as much as could have been

expected from him, and in a country where the rival factions are

so exasperated against each other to be able to preserve a

character for impartiality is no small praise. I wrote to my

brother Henry what I have mentioned under the head of November

21st, and in return he told me that it was in contemplation to

put down the Association, and that the law officers in Ireland

had reported that it was practicable, and their opinion had come

over here, but the decision of the Government had not arrived.

[15] [The Marquis of Anglesey was then Lord-Lieutenant of

Ireland.]

[16] [The Catholic Association. The 'exclusive dealing' was

a pledge required of members of the Association not to

deal with Orangemen.]

[17] [Dr. Murray, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Dublin. Lord

Francis Leveson (afterwards Lord Francis Egerton and

Earl of Ellesmere), Mr. Greville's brother-in-law, was

then Irish Secretary. William Lamb, afterwards Lord

Melbourne, had preceded him in that office. Henry

Greville held a place at the Vice-Regal Court.]

I very soon saw enough to satisfy me that the Duke is

endeavouring to prevail on Peel to stay in office, and his

repeated conferences with the Bishop of Oxford and other bishops

are enough to prove that he is negotiating with the Church, but

nothing transpires of his intentions. Not one word has been said

to Huskisson or any of his friends. My belief is that in that

long conference at Windsor the King tried to prevail on Peel not

to go; since which discussions between Peel, the Duke, and the

Bishop have been going on to see how the matter can be arranged

so as to make Peel's acquiescence palatable to the Church and the

Brunswickers, and perhaps to engage the Duke to modify his

intended measures accordingly. This is conjecture. The Duke is

gone to Wootton and to Middleton; he is always going about.

[Page Head: LORD BELMORE GOVERNOR OF JAMAICA.]

December 21st, 1828 {p.147}

A few days ago I saw Lord Belmore just as he was setting out for

Jamaica. I went to talk to him about my plan.[18] He was very

civil and said he would do all that depended upon him. He does

not seem to be bright, but whatever his talents may be, he seems

to be left to the free exercise of them, for he told me that he

felt his situation to be one of some difficulty, never having

received any instructions (except of course the formal instructions

given to every governor in writing) as to his conduct from the

Secretary of State, having had no conversation with any of the

authorities about the state of the colony, nor any intimation of

their views and intentions in respect to the principal matters of

interest there. He said that as the Assembly of Jamaica is now

sitting, he had proposed to postpone his departure till the end

of their session, when the Bills they passed would come over

here, and he might discuss them with the Government and learn

their sentiments and wishes as to the course he should adopt; a

very sensible proposition. But he received for answer that he had

better go now, for that when these Bills came over here

Parliament would be sitting, and Government would not have

leisure to attend to the affairs of Jamaica. And this is the way

our colonies are governed! Stephen,[19] to whom I told this,

said he was not surprised, for that Sir George Murray did

nothing--never wrote a despatch--had only once since he has been

in office seen Taylor, who has got all the West Indies under his

care.

[18] [Mr. Greville held the office of Secretary of the

Island of Jamaica. The duties of the office were

performed by a deputy paid by the Secretary out of the

fees received in the island. He never visited Jamaica,

and the office held on these conditions was a sinecure;

but he occasionally took part in the affairs of Jamaica

in this country. The 'plan' alluded to in this passage

is unknown to me. Somerset, second Earl of Belmore, had

just been appointed Governor of Jamaica at this time.]

[19] [James Stephen, Esq., then law adviser of the Colonial

Office, and afterwards Under-Secretary of State for the

Colonies. Mr. Henry Taylor, the accomplished author of

'Philip von Artevelde,' was at the head of the West

India department of the office. Sir George Murray was

Secretary of State.]

I might as well have put in on the 25th of November what the King

said to me, as it seems to have amused everybody. I was standing

close to him at the Council, and he put down his head and

whispered, 'Which are you for, Cadland or the mare?' (meaning the

match between Cadland and Bess of Bedlam); so I put my head down

too and said, 'The horse;' and then as we retired he said to the

Duke, 'A little bit of Newmarket.'

December 30th, 1828 {p.148}

Hyde Villiers brought me on Thursday or Friday last a copy of the

Duke's letter to Dr. Curtis,[20] which had been sent to him from

Dublin under strict injunction of not showing it. The next day it

appeared in all the newspapers, O'Connell having read it to the

Association. It has made a great noise, and being as usual

ambiguous, both parties affect to consider it to be in their

favour. I fancy the Duke is very angry at its publication, at

least judging from what his secretaries say.

[20] [The Duke of Wellington had corresponded with Dr.

Curtis, the titular Roman Catholic Primate of Ireland,

for many years. Indeed, as appears in the text, he had

known him long before at Salamanca, when this prelate

was at the Irish College there. Several excellent

letters by Dr. Curtis to the Duke are published in the

second volume of the Duke's 'Correspondence,' New

Series. The letter adverted to in the text was that in

which the Duke said (not very wisely) that 'if men

could bury the subject (of Catholic Emancipation) in

oblivion for a short time, it might be possible to

discover a satisfactory remedy.' Curtis put a copy of

the letter in O'Connell's hands, and he read it aloud

at the Catholic Association. Curtis sent a copy of the

letter and his own reply to the Lord-Lieutenant, who

answered him in another letter, in which he said that

'he did not before know the precise sentiments of the

Duke upon the present state of the Catholic question.'

This letter was also made public, and added fuel to the

flames.]

The word _the_ in the first paragraph was substituted for _a_,

and this alteration these blockheads pretend makes a great

difference in the sense. It makes none, and is only worthy of

remark because they probably echo what he has said. It is clear

enough as to his _opinion_, but nothing more. Curtis was in Spain

and imprisoned by the French at Salamanca. After the battle the

Duke delivered him and had a good deal of communication with him.

He returned to Ireland, and from that period has been in

occasional correspondence with the Duke. Curtis had written him a

long letter, desiring information about his intentions, and this

was the answer. A few days ago Hyde Villiers called on the Duke

and placed in his hands the resolutions which were agreed to by a

committee of the general meeting to be held in Dublin next month.

He took them, but said he must decline saying anything; as

Minister of the Crown he could not say a word, as whatever he did

must be done in conjunction with his colleagues and with the

King; that there was a disposition to draw inferences from

everything, as, for example, that a gentleman he had known in

Spain had written to him on the subject, and his answer had been

handed about, and all sorts of inferences drawn from it, which

was very inconvenient, and proved how cautious he must be. No

doubt it was the Curtis correspondence to which he alluded.

1829.

[Page Head: RECALL OF LORD ANGLESEY.]

January 2nd, 1829 {p.149}

Lord Anglesey was recalled last Sunday. The Duke of Wellington

came to see my mother either Saturday or Sunday last, and told

her he had been with the King three hours the day before, talking

to him about Lord A., that his Majesty was furious with him,

thought he took upon himself as if he were King of Ireland, and

was indignant at all he said and all he did. The Duke talked a

great deal about him, but did not say he was recalled, though his

manner was such that he left an impression that he had something

in his mind which he would not let out. He gave it to be

understood, however, that he had been endeavouring to appease the

King, and that Lord A.'s recall was insisted on by his Majesty

against his (the Duke's) desire. I enquired warmly whether he had

asserted or only implied this, because I don't believe one word

of it. I was told that he had only implied it, but had left that

impression. But the Duke complained of Lord A.'s conduct to

himself; that he had at first written him insolent letters, and

latterly had hardly ever written to him at all. My belief is that

the Duke has for some time wished to get rid of Lord Anglesey,

that these Cabinets have been upon this subject, and that his

recall was settled there. As to the King's dictation and the

Duke's submission, I don't believe a word of it. It has been

clear to me for some time that the Irish Government could not

remain in Lord Anglesey's hands. I am very sorry for it, for I

think it will have a bad effect, and have little hope of its

being followed by any measures likely to counteract the evil it

immediately occasions.

January 4th, 1829 {p.150}

I have seen letters from Dublin stating that the immediate cause

of the recall was a letter which Lord Anglesey had written to the

Duke (but what that was I have not ascertained), and that his

imprudence was so great it was impossible he could have gone on.

Certainly the writing and then publishing this letter of Curtis'

is an enormous act of indiscretion. The consternation in Dublin

seems to have been great, and Henry says that if Lord A. does not

decline all demonstrations of popular feeling towards him, he

will leave Ireland as Lord Fitzwilliam did, attended by the whole

population. Yesterday I asked Fitzgerald[21] if it was true that

Lord A. was recalled. He put on a long face, and said 'he did not

know; _recalled_ he certainly was not.' I saw he was not disposed

to be communicative, so I said no more; he, however, began again

of his own accord, and asked me whether I thought, in the event

of Lord A.'s coming away, that Francis Leveson would remain. I

told him under what conditions he had taken the place, viz. that

he was only to stay while Lord A. did; that circumstances might

make a difference, but that I knew nothing. He said he had done

remarkably well, given great satisfaction, and shown great

discretion in a difficult situation; that the rock Lord A. had

split upon was his vanity.

[21] [Right Hon. Vesey Fitzgerald, then President of the

Board of Trade. He was raised to the peerage of the

United Kingdom in 1835, as Baron Fitzgerald and Vesci.]

[Page Head: RECALL OF LORD ANGLESEY.]

January 5th, 1829 {p.150}

The exact history of what took place in Dublin is as follows:--

Lord Anglesey first of all desired George Villiers would get his

letter to Dr. Curtis inserted in the newspaper. He took it to

Shiel, who agreed to write as good an article as he could to go

with it, and then he went to Dr. Murray to inform him (as Dr.

Curtis's friend) of the intended publication, as Curtis himself

was absent, and his consent ought to have been previously

obtained. He went afterwards to the Phoenix Park, and Lord

Anglesey laid the whole case and correspondence before him. Some

time ago the Duke wrote to Lord Anglesey proposing that O'Gorman

Mahon and Steele should be removed from the Commission of the

Peace on account of their conduct to the Sheriff of Clare. Lord

Anglesey wrote word that the subject had engaged his attention,

and he had laid the case before the law officers, who had

reported to him that there were no grounds for any legal

proceedings against them. 'How, therefore,' said the Lord-Lieutenant,

'could I degrade men against whom my law officers advised me that

no charge could be brought?' This was one offence; and another,

that he had countenanced Lord Cloncurry, who, being a member

of the Association, was unworthy to receive the King's representative

and the Chancellor. Lord Anglesey warmly defended Lord Cloncurry

as a magistrate and a man, and appealed to his known loyalty and

respect for the King as a proof that he would never have done

anything derogatory to his own situation. The Duke's letter

he described to have been overbearing and insolent, Lord

Anglesey's[22] temperate, but firm. Lord Anglesey declares that

these were all the grounds of offence he had given. Five weeks

elapsed, during which he heard nothing from the Duke, and at the

end of that time he received his letter of recall, conceived

nearly in these words:--'My dear Lord Anglesey,--I am aware of

the impropriety of having allowed your letter to remain so long

unanswered, but I wished to consult my colleagues, who were out

of town. I have now done so, and they concur with me that with

such a difference of opinion between the King's Minister and the

Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland the government of that country could

not be conducted by you with advantage to the public service. I

have therefore taken the King's pleasure on the subject, and he

commands me to inform you that you will be immediately relieved

from your government. I will give you the earliest information of

the arrangement which will be made in consequence. Believe me,

&c.' This is nearly the letter.[23] From Lord Anglesey George

Villiers went to Shiel, and with him to O'Connell, to whom Lord

A. desired he would communicate the event. O'Connell was

dreadfully dejected, so much so that Shiel and G. Villiers were

glad to go home and dine with him in order to calm him. They at

length succeeded in doing so, and made him engage to abstain from

any discussion of the recall in the Association the next day (a

promise which he did not keep). Shiel made a very fine speech in

the Association. Nothing, they say, can exceed the general

feeling on the subject, and Lord Anglesey appears to be acting

with great dignity and reserve; he wishes to decline all popular

honours, and he put off going to the play, which he was to have

done.

[22] [The correspondence of Lord Anglesey with the Duke of

Wellington on these charges is now published in the

'Wellington Correspondence,' New Series, vol. v. p.

244.]

[23] [The letter itself is now published in the 'Wellington

Correspondence,' New Series, vol. v. p. 366. Mr.

Greville's version of it differs in no material point

from the original, though the language is slightly

altered.]

January 7th, 1829 {p.152}

The Duke wrote to Francis Leveson to say he must not be surprised

to hear that a letter would reach Lord Anglesey by that day's

post, conveying to him his recall; that the King was so furious

with him that he said he would make any sacrifice rather than

allow him to remain there five minutes longer. His Secretary had

repeatedly remonstrated with the Lord-Lieutenant on his imprudent

language in Ireland, and on the tone of his letters to the Duke,

but that he always defended both on principle. The Duke said that

his letters were most offensive towards him, yet he continued to

declare that he should have been glad to keep Lord Anglesey on

but for the King. The Lord-Lieutenant did not go to the play, but

his family did, and were received with great applause, although

the pit was full of Orangemen. Lord Melville has refused the

Lord-Lieutenancy.

January 11th, 1829 {p.153}

When George Villiers sent me the accounts of what had passed in

Ireland about Lord Anglesey's letter to Curtis I wrote him a long

letter, in which I told him why I thought the letter and its

publication were unjustifiable and indiscreet, and particularly

cautioned him against connecting himself much with the agitator,

on account of the harm it would do him here. He wrote me a long

answer, defending Lord Anglesey and his measures, but I do not

think he makes out a case for him, and if the Lord-Lieutenant

makes in the House of Lords the defence which he proposes to make

I think he will fail; but if he can keep Lord Plunket on his

side, who is now said to be very eager about him, he will do.

Plunket is under the influence of Blake, who keeps, as George

Villiers says, 'Lord Plunket's mind in his breeches' pocket.'

Lord Anglesey has behaved very well since the quarrel, declining

all honours and expressions of public feeling.

[Page Head: THE KING AND THE CATHOLIC QUESTION.]

January 12th, 1829 {p.153}

Lord Mount Charles came to me this morning and consulted me about

resigning his seat at the Treasury. He hates it and is perplexed

with all that has occurred between the Duke and Lord Anglesey. I

advised him to resign, feeling as he does about it. He told me

that he verily believed the King would go mad on the Catholic

question, his violence was so great about it. He is very angry

with him and his father for voting as they do, but they have

agreed never to discuss the matter at all, and his mother never

talks to the King about it. Whenever he does get on it there is

no stopping him. Mount Charles attributes the King's obstinacy to

his recollections of his father and the Duke of York and to the

influence of the Duke of Cumberland. He says that 'his father

would have laid his head on the block rather than yield, and that

he is equally ready to lay his head there in the same cause.' He

is furious with Lord Anglesey, but he will be very much afraid of

him when he sees him. Mount Charles was in the room when Lord

Anglesey took leave of the King on going to Ireland, and the King

said, 'God bless you, Anglesey! I know you are a true Protestant.'

Anglesey answered, 'Sir, I will not be considered either

Protestant or Catholic; I go to Ireland determined to act

impartially between them and without the least bias either one

way or the other.' Lord Anglesey dined with Mount Charles the day

before he went. The same morning he had been with the Duke and

Peel to receive their last instructions, and he came to dinner in

great delight with them, as they had told him they knew he would

govern Ireland with justice and impartiality, and they would give

him no instructions whatever. He showed me a letter from

Mr. Harcourt Lees full of invectives against the Duke and

lamentations at the recall, to show how the Protestants regretted

him as well as the Catholics.

He then talked to me about Knighton, whom the King abhors with a

detestation that could hardly be described. He is afraid of him,

and that is the reason he hates him so bitterly. When alone with

him he is more civil, but when others are present (the family,

for instance) he delights in saying the most mortifying and

disagreeable things to him. He would give the world to get rid of

him, and to have either Taylor or Mount Charles instead, to whom

he has offered the place over and over again, but Mount Charles

not only would not hear of it, but often took Knighton's part

with the King. He says that his language about Knighton is

sometimes of the most unmeasured violence--wishes he was dead,

and one day when the door was open, so that the pages could hear,

he said, 'I wish to God somebody would assassinate Knighton.' In

this way he always speaks of him and uses him. Knighton is

greatly annoyed at it, and is very seldom there. Still it appears

there is some secret chain which binds them together, and which

compels the King to submit to the presence of a man whom he

detests, and induces Knighton to remain in spite of so much

hatred and ill-usage. The King's indolence is so great that it is

next to impossible to get him to do even the most ordinary

business, and Knighton is still the only man who can prevail on

him to sign papers, &c. His greatest delight is to make those who

have business to transact with him, or to lay papers before him,

wait in his anteroom while he is lounging with Mount Charles or

anybody, talking of horses or any trivial matter; and when he is

told, 'Sir, there is Watson waiting,' &c., he replies, 'Damn

Watson; let him wait.' He does it on purpose, and likes it.

[Page Head: CHARACTER OF GEORGE IV.]

This account corresponds with all I have before heard, and

confirms the opinion I have long had that a more contemptible,

cowardly, selfish, unfeeling dog does not exist than this King,

on whom such flattery is constantly lavished. He has a sort of

capricious good-nature, arising however out of no good principle

or good feeling, but which is of use to him, as it cancels in a

moment and at small cost a long score of misconduct. Princes have

only to behave with common decency and prudence, and they are

sure to be popular, for there is a great and general disposition

to pay court to them. I do not know anybody who is proof against

their seductions when they think fit to use them in the shape of

civility and condescension. The great consolation in all this is

the proof that, so far from deriving happiness from their

grandeur, they are the most miserable of all mankind. The

contrast between their apparent authority and the contradictions

which they practically meet with must be peculiarly galling, more

especially to men whose minds are seldom regulated, as other

men's are, by the beneficial discipline of education and early

collision with their equals. There have been good and wise kings,

but not many of them. Take them one with another they are of an

inferior character, and this I believe to be one of the worst of

the kind. The littleness of his character prevents his displaying

the dangerous faults that belong to great minds, but with vices

and weaknesses of the lowest and most contemptible order it would

be difficult to find a disposition more abundantly furnished.

January 16th, 1829 {p.155}

I went to Windsor to a Council yesterday. There were the Duke,

the Lord Chancellor, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Master of

the Mint, Lord President, Lord Aberdeen, Peel, Melville,

Ellenborough. The King kept us waiting rather longer than usual.

He looked very well, and was dressed in a blue great coat, all

over gold frogs and embroidery. Lord Liverpool was there to give

up the late Lord's Garter, and had an audience. He said to me

afterwards that the King had asked him all sorts of questions

about his family concerns, with which he seemed extraordinarily

well acquainted, and to some of which he was puzzled to give an

answer. The King is the greatest master of gossip in the world,

and his curiosity about everybody's affairs is insatiable. I

spoke to Peel about the Council books,[24] which are in the State

Paper Office, and he promised they should be restored to the

Council Office.

[24] [At the fire which took place at Whitehall in 1619

several volumes of the 'Council Register' were lost or

dispersed. Some of these missing volumes were in the

State Paper Office, and two are still in the British

Museum.]

Just before I set off to Windsor I heard from Ireland, and this

is an extract of the letter:--'Lord Anglesey received a letter

from Peel this morning to the effect "that as he had written and

published a letter such as no Lord-Lieutenant was justified in

writing, it was his Majesty's pleasure that Lords Justices should

be immediately appointed." Francis found him very smiling and

glorious, but angry, and declaring that he would do just the same

again if he had to choose his line of conduct.'

_À propos_ of Denman's silk gown, Mount Charles told me the other

day that Denman wrote a most humble apology to the King,

notwithstanding which the Duke of Wellington had great trouble in

mollifying him. At last he consented, but wrote himself on the

document that in consideration of his humble apology his Majesty

forgave him, as he thought it became the King to forgive a

subject, but desired this note might be preserved in the

Treasury, where Mount Charles says it now is.[25]

[25] [This curious correspondence has now been published in

the fifth volume of the Duke of Wellington's

'Despatches,' New Series, pp. 117 and 153. The cause of

the quarrel was a Greek quotation from Dion which

Denman had introduced into one of his speeches at the

Queen's trial. In the King's answer to the memorial

(which answer was drawn up by the Duke of Wellington)

the following passage occurs:--

'The King could not believe that the Greek quotation

referred to had occurred to the mind of the advocate in

the eagerness and heat of his argument, nor that it was

not intended, nor that it had not been sought for and

suggested for the purpose of applying to the person of

the Sovereign a gross insinuation.' Denman, however,

prayed his Majesty to believe that 'no such insinuation

was ever made by him, that the idea of it never entered

his mind,' &c.

The truth about this quotation is this:--During the

Queen's trial Dr. Parr, who was a warm supporter of the

Queen and an intimate friend of Denman, employed

himself in ransacking books for quotations which might

be used in the defence. Thus he lit in Bayle's

Dictionary, article 'Octavia,' upon the answer made by

Pythias, one of the slaves of Octavia, to Tigellinus,

when he was torturing the slaves of the Empress in

order to convict her of adultery. The same answer

occurs in substance in Tacitus' 'Annals,' book xiv.

cap. 60. This Parr sent to Denman, and Denman used it

in his speech. The fact is, therefore, that the

quotation had been 'sought for and suggested' for the

express purpose of saying something personally

offensive to the King. The King's resentment against

Denman did not end here as will be seen lower down,

where he refused to receive the Recorder's report

through the Common Serjeant.]

January 21st, 1829 {p.156}

The sealed orders with which the ships have sailed from Plymouth,

were orders to prevent the Portuguese (who have been sent away)

from landing at Terceira.

Lady Westmeath was the woman meant in the article in the 'Times'

from Ireland about the pension to which Lord Anglesey would not

agree. The story is very true. There was £700 disposable on the

Pension Fund, and the Duke of Wellington desired £400 might be

given to Lady Westmeath, which Lord Anglesey and the Secretary

both protested against, and were resolved to resign rather than

agree to it. They wrote to the Duke such strong remonstrances

that he appears to have desisted from the design, for they heard

no more of it. It is therefore false that this had anything to do

with the recall, though it is by no means improbable that it

served to alienate the Duke from the Marquis and to make him

desire the more to get rid of him. This happened as long ago as

last August, I think.

[Page Head: STATE OF RUSSIA.]

Yesterday the Duke dined with us, in very good spirits, and

agreeable as he always is, though not so communicative and free

as he used to be. He had never told Francis Leveson about the

Duke of Northumberland[26] till Sunday, when he wrote to announce

the appointment. His Grace seems mightily pleased with it, and

fancies that his figure and his fortune are more than enough to

make him a very good Lord-Lieutenant. He says he was obliged to

coax him a little to get him to accept it.

[26] [Hugh, third Duke of Northumberland, was declared

Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland on the recall of Lord

Anglesey.]

[Page Head: THE EMPEROR ALEXANDER I.]

He said that he was on the best terms with France, talked of

Russia and her losses in the war, adding that the notion of her

power was at an end. He believed that the Russians were

numerically as strong as the Turks in the last campaign, and they

were much more numerous than they said: first, _because_ they

said they were not so; and secondly, that he had other reasons

for believing it; he thought they had begun the campaign with

160,000 men and had lost 120,000.[27] They were talking of St.

Petersburg and its palaces. The Duke said that the fortunes of

the great Russian nobles--the Tolstoys, &c.--were so diminished

that they lived in corners of their great palaces; but this was

owing to the division of property and the great military

colonies, by which the Crown lands were absorbed, and the

Emperors had no longer the means of enriching the nobles by

enormous donations as formerly. When to these circumstances are

added the amelioration of the condition of the serfs, and the

spirit of general improvement, and the growth of Liberal ideas,

generated by intercommunication with the rest of Europe, it is

impossible to doubt that a revolution must overtake Russia within

a short period, and probably the Emperor has undertaken this war

in order to give vent to the restless humours which are beginning

to work. I said so to Lord Bathurst, and he replied that 'he

thought so too, but that the present Emperor was a man of great

firmness,' as if any individual authority or character could stem

the torrent of determined action impelled by universal revolution

of feeling and opinion. He said the late Emperor was so well

aware of this that he died of the vexation it had caused him,

which was aggravated by the reflection that he was in great

measure himself the cause of it. He was so bit by Liberal

opinions, and so delighted with the effects he saw in other

countries flowing from the diffusion of intelligence and freedom,

that he wished to engraft these dangerous exotics upon the rude

and unprepared soil of his own slavish community. When he went to

Oxford he was so captivated with the venerable grandeur of that

University that he declared he would build one when he got

home, and it is equally true that he said he 'would have an

Opposition.' These follies were engendered in the brain of a very

intelligent man by the mixture of such crudities with an

unbounded volition, and the whole fermented by a lively

imagination and a sincere desire to confer great benefits on his

country.

[27] [This seems an extraordinary statement, but it shows

how well informed the Duke was. In Major von Moltke's

narrative of the campaign of 1828 he estimates the

average force of the Russian army at 100,000. But from

May 1828 to February 1829 no less than 210,108 men

passed through the hospitals, or died in them. So that,

as Moltke remarks, in the course of those ten months

every man in his army was twice in hospital. Never did

an army suffer more severely from sickness.]

January 25th, 1829 {p.159}

Lord Anglesey's departure from Dublin was very fine, and his

answer to the addresses good. I fancy George Villiers had some

hand in penning them. The Duke when he dined with us the other

day said that a Russian Extraordinary Ambassador was coming here

to overhaul Lieven, a M. Matuscewitz. He is the principal writer

in their Foreign Office, a clever man. Their despatches are more

able than they used to be, but the Duke said that the Turkish

offices are better conducted than any, and the Turkish Ministers

extremely able. Lord Bathurst told me he had lately read the

minutes of a conversation between the Reis-Effendi and the Allied

Ministers after the battle of Navarino, when they were ignorant

whether the Turk had received intelligence of the event, and that

his superiority over them was exceedingly striking. This was the

conference in which when they asked him 'supposing such an event

had happened, what he should say to it,' he replied 'that in his

country they never named a child till its sex was ascertained.'

Everybody thinks the appointment of the Duke of Northumberland a

very good one, and that the Duke is in great luck to get him. It

is surprising that he should have consented to go, but he

probably likes to do something and display his magnificence. He

is a very good sort of man, with a very narrow understanding, an

eternal talker, and prodigious bore. The Duchess is a more

sensible woman, and amiable and good-humoured. He is supposed to

be ruled in all things by her advice; he has no political

opinions, and though he has hitherto voted against the Catholics,

he is one of the people who pin their faith on the Duke, and who

are made to vote in any way and upon anything as he may please to

desire them.

This pension of Lady Westmeath's makes a great noise, and it is

generally believed that when Lord Anglesey refused to grant it

the Duke got the King's sign manual for it, and the job was done.

The truth is that Lord Anglesey had at first refused, or rather

expressed his disapprobation, and asked the Duke if the King had

commanded it, to which the Duke sent an angry answer that he

might have been sure he should not have recommended it but by the

King's commands. M---- told me the pension (£400) was granted

four months ago, for he signed the warrant himself.

Polignac is gone to Paris, but the Duke thinks not to be

Minister. Polignac told him that he wished to return here, as he

thought he could do more good here than there.

[Page Head: THE STATE PAPER OFFICE.]

Yesterday I went with Amyot to the State Paper Office to look

after my Council books. I found one book belonging to my office

and nearly thirty volumes of the 'Register of the Council of

State,'[28] which I mean to ask for, but which I suppose they

will refuse. Amyot suggests that as all the acts of the Council

of State were illegal and of no authority they cannot be

considered as belonging to the Council Office, and are merely

historical records without an official character. I shall try,

however, to get them. Mr. Lemon showed us a great many curious

papers. When he first had the care of the State papers they were

in the greatest confusion, and he has been diligently employed in

reducing them to order. Every day has brought to light documents

of importance and interest which as they are successively found

are classed and arranged and rendered disposable for literary and

historical purposes.

[28] [Of the time of the Commonwealth. The 'Privy Council

Register' extends from the last years of Henry VIII. to

the present time, not including the Commonwealth.]

Lemon has found papers relating to the Powder Plot alone

sufficient to make two quarto volumes, exceedingly curious; all

Garnett's original papers, and I hope hereafter they will be

published.[29] We saw the famous letter to Lord Mounteagle, of

which Lemon said he had, he thought, discovered the author. It

has been attributed to Mrs. Abington, Lord Mounteagle's sister,

but he thinks it was written by Mrs. Vaux, who was a friend of

hers, and mistress, probably, of Garnett; it is to her that many

of Garnett's letters are addressed. It seems that Mrs. Vaux and

Mrs. Abington were both present at the great meeting of the

conspirators at Hendlip, and he thinks that the latter, desirous

of saving her brother's life, prevailed on Mrs. Vaux to write the

letter, for the handwriting exactly corresponds with some other

writing of hers which he has seen. There is a remarkable paper

written by King James with directions what questions should be

put to Guy Faux, and ending with a recommendation that he should

be tortured first gently, and then more severely as might be

necessary. Then the depositions of Faux in the Tower, which had

been taken down (contrary to his desire) in writing, and which he

was compelled to sign upon the rack; his signature was written in

faint and trembling characters, and his strength had evidently

failed in the middle, for he had only written 'Guido.' There is a

distinct admission in the Plot papers in Garnett's own hand that

he came to a knowledge of the Plot otherwise than by the

Sacrament of Confession, which oversets Lingard; a paragraph by

which it is clear that the Pope knew of it; and a curious paper

in which, having sworn that he had never written certain letters,

which letters were produced when he was taxed with the false

oath, Garnett boldly justifies himself, and says that they ought

not to have questioned him on the subject, having the letters in

their hands, and that he had a right to deny what he believed

they could not prove--a very remarkable exposition of the tenets

of his order and the doctrines of equivocation.

[29] [The substance of these papers has since been published

by the late David Jardine, Esq., in his excellent

'Narrative of the Gunpowder Plot.' (Murray, London,

1857.) Some of the particulars here referred to by Mr.

Greville are not strictly accurate, or at least have

not been confirmed by subsequent investigation. It is

not probable that the letter to Lord Mounteagle was

written by Mrs. Abington or by Mrs. Vaux, nor is it at

all certain that either of these ladies had any

knowledge of the Plot. Mr. Jardine ascribes the letter

to Tresham ('Narrative,' &c., p. 83). Garnett's

admissions are printed in Jardine's Appendix. His

knowledge of the Plot was derived from Greenway, a

priest to whom Catesby had revealed it in confession.

The Pope was probably not privy to the Plot. The

celebrated 'Treatise on Equivocation' was found in

Tresham's desk. The identical copy with Garnett's notes

is still in the Bodleian; it was reprinted in 1851.]

When I came away from the State Paper Office I met George Dawson,

and we had a long conversation about Irish affairs, from which I

gathered what is to be done. The Catholic question is to be

conceded, the elective franchise altered, and the Association

suppressed. This latter is, I take it, to be a preliminary

measure, and I suspect the Duke went to the King on Monday with

the resolution of the Cabinet on the subject, and I think so the

more because the Archbishop was sent for post-haste just before

he went. Dawson talked to me a great deal about his speech at

Derry, and said that so many of his friends were aware of the

change in his opinions that he thought it more fair and manly to

declare them at once in public than to use any dissimulation with

his constituents and leave them to be guessed at, as if he dared

not own them; that he had made a great sacrifice, for he had

risked his seat, which was very secure before, and had quarrelled

with Peel, with his family, and with all his old political

friends and associates. We talked a great deal about Peel, and I

see clearly that he has given way; probably they have compromised

the business, and he agrees to the Emancipation part, in order to

have the Association suppressed and the 40s. freeholders

disfranchised. Lord Anglesey always said that his removal would

facilitate the business, for the Duke wished to have all the

credit of it to himself, and had no mind to divide it with him,

whereas if Lord Anglesey had remained the chief credit would have

fallen to his share.

[Page Head: NAVARINO.]

I met Sir Edward Codrington in the morning, and walked with him

to Downing Street, where he was going to talk to the Duke about

his Navarino business. He is mightily incensed, thinks he has

been scandalously used both by Dudley and Aberdeen, is ready to

tell his story and show his documents to anybody, and says he is

resolved the whole matter shall come out, and in the House of

Commons if he can produce it. God knows how his case will turn

out, but I never saw a man so well satisfied with himself. He

says that the action at Navarino was, as an achievement, nothing

to the affair at Patras, when with one line-of-battle ship, one

frigate, and a corvette he drove before him Ibrahim and four

Turkish admirals and a numerous fleet.

February 4th, 1829 {p.163}

Went to Middleton last Friday; very few people. I returned by

Oxford, and called on Dr. Bandinell, who took me to the Bodleian.

I could not find any Council books, but I had not much time to

devote to the search. Dr. Bandinell promised to inform me if he

could find any books or manuscripts relating to my office. I was

surprised to find in the Bodleian a vast number of books

(manuscripts) which had belonged to Pepys. I came to town on

Monday night, and found that the concession of Catholic

Emancipation was generally known; the 'Times' had an article on

Friday which clearly announced it. The rage and despair of the

Orange papers is very amusing. I have not yet heard how the King

took it all. Glad as I am that the measure is going to be

carried, the conduct of all those who are to assist in it (the

old anti-Catholics) seems to me despicable to the greatest

degree; having opposed it against all reason and common sense for

years past, now that the Duke of Wellington lifts up his finger

they all obey, and without any excuse for their past or present

conduct. The most agreeable event, if it turns out to be true, is

the defection of Dr. Philpots, whose conduct and that of others

of his profession will probably not be without its due effect in

sapping the foundations of the Church. All the details that I

have yet learnt confirm my opinion that the spirit in which the

Duke and his colleagues approach this great measure is not that

of calm and deliberate political reasoning, but a fearful sense

of necessity and danger, to which they submit with extreme

repugnance and with the most miserable feelings of pique and

mortification at being compelled to adopt it. The Duke and Peel

wrote to Francis Leveson, complaining of my brother's having

met Shiel at dinner, and they were so enraged with George

Villiers[30] that they seriously meditated turning him out of his

office. Wretched and contemptible to the greatest degree! They

are now exceedingly annoyed because it is discovered that Woulffe

was once a member of the Association, and would willingly have

him turned out of the place of Assistant-Barrister, which has

just been given to him; but Francis is resolved to maintain him

in it. They say the Duke sent a copy of the King's Speech to Lord

Eldon.

[30] [Mr. George Villiers, then an Irish Commissioner of

Customs (afterwards Earl of Clarendon), had cultivated

the society of Shiel and invited him to dinner. Such an

attention from an English official to an Irish Catholic

was at that time an unheard-of innovation. Shiel told

his host that he had never dined in a Protestant house

before. The Duke of Wellington took great umbrage at

what he considered an unwarrantable breach of official

decorum.]

[Page Head: CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL.]

February 5th, 1829 {p.164}

Went to Brookes' yesterday, and found all the Whigs very merry at

the Catholic news. Most of them were just come to town and had

heard nothing till they arrived. The old Tories dreadfully

dejected, but obliged to own it was all true; intense curiosity

to hear what Peel will say for himself. The general opinion seems

to be that the Duke has managed the matter extremely well, which

I am disposed to think too, but there is always a disposition to

heap praise upon him whenever it is possible. Nobody yet knows

who are converted and who are not; they talk of nine bishops; I

think he will have them all, and I expect a very great majority

in the House of Lords. Many people expect that Wilmot's plan will

be adopted, restraining the Catholics from voting in matters

concerning the Church, which I do not believe, for Wilmot is at a

discount and his plan is absurd and impracticable. Lord Harrowby,

however, is all for it. I hear many of the Liberals are

exceedingly provoked, and not unnaturally, at the Duke's

effecting this measure, at which they have been so long labouring

in vain, and give as many spiteful flings at him as they can

about the insincerity of his letter to Curtis. It matters very

little now whether he was sincere or not. It evidently was part

of his plan to keep it all secret till it was matured, and as

Curtis chose to ask him questions he was quite right to throw

dust in his eyes.

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